Ride from Tilburg to Waalwijk on the F261
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2021
- [887] Cycling from Tilburg to Waalwijk via Loon op Zand and Kaatsheuvel.
Mostly filmed in July 2021, the final 10 minutes were filmed in August 2020. More information in the blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/?p...
Naast dat dit soort filmpjes natuurlijk een fantastisch beeld van de fietsinfrastructuur geven voor kijkers uit andere landen, heb ik er als Nederlandse stedenbouwkundige ook vaak plezier van. Het helpt me om gesprekken met bestuurders over fietssnelwegen en next-level fietsinfrastructuur visueel inzichtelijk te maken. Zo begrijpen ze sneller wat er precies beter kan aan een bestaande situatie.
I spent some time commuting to an from Tilburg, and it's amazing to see how the area behind the train station has developed since then! At the time, only the "LocHal" was there already as a library, but the bike garage at the start of the video wasn't.
The LocHal is still one of my favourite buildings ever since I took some time after work to have a look inside before I went home for the evening. I love how they kept some of the old cranes and other equipment in place and built a beautiful library in it. (If you didn't already guess it: The "LocHal" is a renovated railway maintenance depot)
Between these videos and the ones that DutchBikeBlogger posts we all get a great idea what the infrastructure for cycling is like in the Netherlands. And its mostly worlds apart from anywhere else!
I absolutely love these rides you do...I feel like I am with you...
There's no where in the world that have such a beautiful infrastructure. I'm so proud that I'm Dutch...
Eerlijk gezegd... sorry, excuseer dat ik in het Engels schrijf. "There's nowhere in the world"... well, honestly, the bike infrastructure is arguably as good in Denmark and... in North Korea (where bicycles are much more common than cars). Having said that, yes, it's indisputable that the infrastructures for bikes in the Nertherlands are every bit excellent and among the very best in the world.
@@yagi3925 that's absolutely not true, Denmark and North Korea do not have an extensive bicycle infrastructure like the Netherlands. I have seen the bicycle 🚲 infrastructure in Copenhagen, is good but not good enough both in functionality and aesthetic...
@@jentulj9611 Well, then it's a matter of opinion and not a matter of "absolutely not true". I am pretty familiar with Denmark - and I mean not just Copenhagen but the whole country, and in my opinion the bike infratructure there is (slightly) better than in the NL. As I said, though, it's a matter of opinion as long as we don't have an accurate methodology to actually measure and rate the respective qualities of both infrastructures. As for North Korea, I don't think you've ever set a foor there, so I'll stick to the Latin saying "Quod gratis affirmatur, gratis negatur". I rely on my experience of NK.
I agree, one man's apple is another man's poison. I have only seen Copenhagen, and I am not impressed as I do with the Netherlands. As for NK, never been and I am just been prejudicial.
Whats aboud Switzerland?
Really nice, sunny, quiet and relaxing ride.
Great video! I love the graphics in the lower left corner showing what type of facility you are on too!
Thanks for making this video! 👍🏼 It is a nice and smooth ride on the F261 -although there are a few tricky crossings to look out for. On my e-bike it takes about 30 minutes from Tilburg to #Efteling (Kaatsheuvel) 🤗
Fantastic, wonderful ride today and I achieved a personal best in riding the rollers with this great video and "(884) Mark to Zaltbommel" of riding at 15 km/hr for 60 minutes. Strength is coming up! Heel erg bedankt Mark!
Looking good, now if we could get rid of the scooters and mopeds that would be great!
Maybe we could allow electric ones (with a speed limiter)
those are scary cause you dont hear them
@@silsilsilly Not really a problem imo as long as the speeds are similar (and that is why I added the: "with a speed limiter")
You don't hear other bikes when they are faster then you are (unless they ring the bell) and now with the electric bicycles you have sort of the same. They are only helping you up to 25km/h. So it hasn't become more dangerous with them around.
snelheid limiters kan je er in de meeste gevallen makkelijk af halen. dus je zal altijd wel een scooter tegen komen die je met 70 tot 130kph voorbij komt
@@CasperGamess True, and I am not sure if I want them all gone anyway. Still, just having the gas ones gone would be fantastic. They are just annoying loud and are more as twice as polluting then a normal car.
@@MarijnvdSterre I drive a 2012 Yamaha Neos 4 stroke, it has an injection engine and a catalytic converter and it weighs only 95 kg. i drive over 40 kilometer on just one liter of gasoline. Tell me how can that be twice as polluting as a car?????? For me, my scooter is my main form of transportation for my daily commute and in my opinion a very efficient one. my alternative is my car, a 2012 Hyundai ix35, it weighs over 1000 kg an does barely 12km to a liter of gasoline. Again how can my scooter twice as polluting then my car???? i like to know your source for your statement because i can barely believe it.
take a look at a the highways, they ar packed with thousands of cars with only one person in it. they all burn fuel, cause dust by braking and tire wear etc. etc. my scooter does that to but only in very small fractions of what a car does.
offcourse, a bike will be the best alternative but that is not suitable for my daily distance.
in my opinion: the drivers of scooters/mopeds ar subject to some kind of silly whichhunt wich is based on very old stereotypes which does not apply to the modern era scooters/mopeds and their commuting owners.
I'm honestly angry that leaders in my city (Auckland) have consistently made such poor choices compared to this.
The built environment on display here ~ 9:25 is the most functional, beautiful street I have ever seen.
As a resident from the city in your mention, your comment puts a smile on my face, cause our city is considdered na ugly city by people who live in the arena (but not in Tilburg), so much that i started believing them. Your comment Made me see it in a different perspective, so thanks,
@@nickverbrugge4281 haha, that was exactly what I was going to comment on...if I have to name an ugly Dutch city it's either Almere or Tilburg 😂
Most non-Dutch infrastructure is primarily focused on the car anyway, so if we had to select a different city to live in, Auckland doesn't sound too bad 😉
July 2021 - we could see you, me & my actual wife ride a lot of times on that way from Waalwijk ;)) Great channel!
As an American, I'm so jealous of how nicely this place is made! Here, if you want to ride a bike you just have to risk your life and hope no cars hit you. Nobody walks or rides bikes. Its really not even safe where I live. Drunk drivers, no bike lanes. Sigh. Thank you for making these awesome videos!!
In your country you can buy a car for normal prizes... Here you have to donate an organ to buy only and then another one to fill it up with gas.
@@N911GT2 I didnt know that. Good point!! Thats awful.
@@Debracarter666 thats not true, you can get a decent car for €1000-€2500 ($1160-$2900) in the netherlands
This path is BycicleDutch's wet dream
Hahahaha
The sign "opstapplaats" is there only during the Kermis (funfair) it's a small trackless "train" (NS had one off their locomotive workshops here & to stick with the fact most people come to visit by train) it will pick you up at that sign and drop you off along the terrain (this kermis is known as the biggest/longest in the Benelux and spans (outside corona) 3.5 to 4 km and slowly still is growing in size)
I miss The Netherlands! I love to cycle. I want to record my trips like this, next time I go.
Hello from South Africa. I just love your videos. Nederland is very beautiful. My dream is to one day move the Nederland.
@@PieterKolbeek Many dutch people life in SA forgotten by Governement
Dont listen to pieter, here in the netherlands people like him are called tokkies, it are often stupid people
Vreselijk al die suizende auto's om je heen. Dat had beter gekund en gemoeten echt slecht doordacht. Al denk je fijn te fietsen. Dus niet met al die dampen. Jammer.
@@thejaben Je lijkt wel een papagaai met je herhalingen iedere keer weer. 😁
@@lowiebovens. Dat klopt. Omdat ze regelmatig mijn reacties verwijderen. Doe ik knippen en plakken zodat ze alles moeten nalezen en dat vinden ze niet leuk. LOL.
It's incredible how much independent from car roads those bike paths are.
You pretty much go every where in the netherlands with a bike. Probably some places do not have independent bike roads but it is still really save.
Its the most important principle for safety, I dont know the english words and I dont know the duch one but my people call it, atšķetināšana.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 GEZELLIG?
@@erikloupias7642 I dont know.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
Google translate gives the dutch translation 'ontrafelen'.
That's pretty close to 'ontvlechten' which is the official name for that principle
in the Netherlands.
Een groot nadeel is wel dat sinds de nieuwe fietsenstalling in Tilburg iedere gecombineerde fiets-treintrip 5 minuten langer is geworden omdat je niet meer op het perron kunt parkeren maar altijd 5 minuten moet lopen naar het andere uiteinde van de langgerekte fietsenstalling.
This is so beautiful. I love it. 😍
thanks very relaxing to view
Ive got it, there is actually one place Latvijā where you can have such a nice ride Brūšniekiem to Ventspili.
What is the significance of the green stripe on the fietspad……? Not seen this at all in South Limburg…….
Wahaha.. ik ben echt nog in covidmode. Heel dat nieuwe fietspad op de ReitseHoevenstraat nog niet gezien. Wauw.
Holy shit, im jealous! But i wonder why there was that 200m section missing in the middle of the bicycle road 20:45 :D
Thank you for sharing, did you buy some patatos at a farmer? Realy good taste, fresh from the farmer, and do you love the farmer parfum? That kind of parfum you must good inhalate with youre nose, then you come in a kind of trance, you can smell and feel the nature then
so weird when those small cars are in the bike lane. I am looking forward to making it to this area so I can bike. I am in the USA now.
The 1 person cars? Those are (mainly) for elderly and disabled. Basically a 4 wheeled moped.
Top Infrastructure cannot believe it is so well maintained and designed best country in the whole world
It was finished making in Juli of this year. So its brandnew! 👍🏻🚲🚲
Bedankt. Ik vroeg me al een tijdje af hoe die F261 nou precies loopt. Nu weet ik het. Die route ga ik ook een keer rijden.
Was there a festival taking place in Tilburg when you first left? I noticed the hoardings up like they have for charity runs and street festivals
Can I use this bike road to go from tilburg central to the efteling? How long would that take?
Nevermind saw the hotel around 00:38:00
Yes. It is a very easy ride to the Efteling on this route. You can take a shortcut to the main entrance much earlier than at that hotel.
Is this cycling highway for long rides can you go fast on this lane for 10km straight from ride of 100km for bike enthu ?
What do cycling highway looks like and pls more vid on that too? Are there any specific allotted cycle highway ?
More vid like those eindhoven and sint-michelin look like long riders type.
The green lines separating the two directions indicate a cycle highway,
though the translation from dutch would be more like 'cycle fastway'.
You can ride as fast as you want, knock yourself out! However, be advised that in dutch law there is the principle of 'appropriate speed' which means you are obliged to adapt your speed to the circumstances, like when cycling close to slower cyclists or around larger groups at rush hour for instance.
Feel welcome, don't forget to eat a stroopwafel...
Heel bekend allemaal, ik fiets daar regelmatig.
Een mooiere route naar Waalwijk is Kraaivenstraat, Huis ter Heide oftewel langs andere kant Blauwe Meer en dan langs de achterkant van de Efteling.
Is het een idee om het logo dat linksboven staat af en toe te verplaatsen naar rechtsboven i.v.m. inbrandingsgevaar bij bijv. OLED tv’s
43:11 Great view on that medieval Gothic church there
just perfect
Vreselijk al die suizende auto's om je heen. Dat had beter gekund en gemoeten echt slecht doordacht. Al denk je fijn te fietsen. Dus niet met al die dampen. Jammer.
Nice vid, this is good for to do something, i have a tip next time some music, bluetooth speaker, a pre workout from mo bicep, just a little bit bcaa. Das handel papaaaaaaa
These red roads are prettier than those black roads made for cars. It fits well with green trees.
And they're specifically meant for bicycles, so when you're driving a car over one of these, you know you're wrong😉
Until 5.45 is the route I always cycle to university, seeing it in this video is so weird.
Is that motorcycle really allowed on the bicycle path?
There is no bikeway infrastructure planned and deployed like in the Netherlands. When I watch the joke of pathways we have here in Germany it's really to cry. 😢
I wish ours were at least as half as good.
Wat is die groene lijn op het fietspad?
De groene lijn markeert de snelfietsroute. Het concept is naar mijn idee overgenomen van de 100km/h N wegen (normaal mag je 80 op een N weg) die ook vaak een groene lijn in het midden hebben.
@@IJubane Aah oke dankuwel! Ik vind het een beetje onzin, maar goed haha.
Is it possible to also add the width of the cycling infrastructure in the left corner?
As far as I know there's a certain width all paths have to comply to. In this, and most cases its at max 2 meters per side. This allows bicyclists to pass eachother without too much discomfort, since the general width of a bike is 94 centimeters.
It's written somewhere in the Dutch traffic laws.
4:12 First I thought: Why? Why is there a bump? What possible good can it do. Then I saw that there was a handicapped space, so you might say it is for the reason to roll onto the sideway. But then why is there a pole in the middle?
only other thing I can think of is that it is a high point for pipes and it needs to be higher there...
I am thinking to much about it I guess ^^
It's a speed bump for motorized traffic. It's not a cycle path but a cycle street, so motor traffic is allowed.
@@MrAronymous That doesn't seem right though...
@@coastaku1954 Why not?
@@aeiouaeiou100 I thought the point was to make sure that modes don't mix to decrease possible conflicts
The bump is for cars that have the street for themselves to not speed up but keep going slow enough. The pole is to prevent whole cars from entering the sidewalk. That the bump is also a nice gradual way to enter the sidewalk for handicapped is just a nice bonus.
My kind of place
fietspad? wat deed die bus daar dan?? en die auto's mag dat dan ook?
De fietspaden waarbij dat bord "fietsstraat , auto the gast" wordt gebruikt mag worden gebruikt door auto's, maar bestuurders moeten zich aanpassen aan de fietsers (niet inhalen als het druk is, langzame snelheid etc.). Vaak hoeft alleen bestemmingsverkeer gebruik te maken van deze fietsstraten, en alleen voor het eerste en laatste stukje van de reis. Niet bestemmingsverkeer kan waarschijnlijk gebruik maken van een snellere route (bijvoorbeeld de autoweg naast grote delen van deze fietsstraten). Soms wordt op de borden ook aangegeven dat alleen bestemmingsverkeer de fietsstraat mag gebruiken.
Soms laten ze ook alleen taxi's en bussen toe en geen privé of werkverkeer, om zo het openbaar vervoer interessanter te maken omdat dat niet vast loopt in druk verkeer, of omdat het dichter bij een bepaalde bestemming kan komen. Het ziet er misschien een beetje raar uit soms, maar er is over nagedacht (meestal)
@@IJubane ziet er idd onlogisch uit, en het effect van volledig veilig fietsen ten opzichte van gemotoriseerd verkeer is dan dus ook niet optimaal...dank voor je reractie!
Klereherrie. Vreselijk al die suizende auto's om je heen. Dat had beter gekund en gemoeten echt slecht doordacht. Al denk je fijn te fietsen. Dus niet met al die dampen. Jammer.
@@thejaben ja...je kunt ook overdrijven....volgens mij hoort u in een hutje op de hei😆
@@adw8762 Valt wel mee. Ik zou daar nooit gaan fietsen doe ik wel 10 km omrijden. LOL.
Wow I am so jealous
Dutch people are most lucky people in the world. Netherlands is liberated area, so beautiful. All people need dismiss to car culture, it has no continuity; we waste resources.
Not all areas are as flat as the Netherlands. While bike infrastructure makes sense in some towns, not all countries are flat enough or small enough to have a well-connected bike infrastructure throughout the majority of the country, and have to rely on cars for long distance travel.
15:00 No sidewalks?
Are they situated on the other side of the street?
Otherwise it's a little too American car-oriented for new Dutch infrastructure imo.
This is not uncommon within an industrial area , which are reached by car of cycle almost always situated on the outside of cities.
There are rules for pedestrians if there is no sidewalk, they are then allowed to walk on the cycling path and than the best would be if they walked on the left side, but when a cyclingpath is to busy it should have a sidewalk
@@Lunavii_Cellest I thought to myself during the video there were enough pedestrians to legitimize a (narrow/small) sidewalk, at least.
@@ZeNN-Music yeah that is true, then there should be a sidewalk.
Yeah those are areas where people go only to work, factories and warehouses. Depressing places best to be avoided. The people who walk there are probably on their break and started walking because of the bike path. Before they were stuck in the lunch facility of the company , or the parking lot when they want to go outside
So jealous!
Leuke video’s je moet van Venray naar coksdorp fietsen
I’m surprised there doesn’t appear to be a separate footpath on much of this route. Do you know why that decision was made?
Within built areas there are footpaths, outside of built areas pedestrians and cyclists can use the same path. This is common everywhere in the country
Leve Nederland en zijn uitstekende fietsinfrastructuur!
Vreselijk al die suizende auto's om je heen. Dat had beter gekund en gemoeten echt slecht doordacht. Al denk je fijn te fietsen. Dus niet met al die dampen. Jammer.
Klopt wij in Tilburg staan bekend om de beste stad met de beste fiets routes 💖
Vreselijk al die suizende auto's om je heen. Dat had beter gekund en gemoeten echt slecht doordacht. Al denk je fijn te fietsen. Dus niet met al die dampen. Jammer.
Maak nie uit altij de zelfde mense die mauwen
@@dimrrider9133 Nou zijn er best wel wat mooie plekken in en rond de stad, maar je hebt wel gelijk. Het voordeel hiervan is dat het ons behoed voor massa toerisme. De mensen die Tilburg komen bezoeken (en dat zijn er heel wat) zijn over het algemeen mensen die wat komen dóen in plaats van komen kijken. Werkt best goed voor de sfeer van een stad...
@@dimrrider9133 Schavuit dat je daar bent...
@@dimrrider9133 FF serieus: Tilburg was nog niet zo lang geleden best wel een mooie stad. Maar in de jaren '60 was er hier een kliek rond de burgemeester die ook bevangen was met het zogenaamde 'moderniteitsvirus'. Die zouden de stad wel eens even de moderne wereld in sluizen. Vergeet niet dat Amsterdam bijvoorbeeld ook ternauwernood (met een paar stemmen verschil) de dans is ontsprongen om de halve stad plat te gooien voor snelwegen tot in het centrum. Zo was die tijd (helaas).
In de Tilburgse volksmond wordt betreffende burgemeester Cees Becht nog steeds
'Cees de Sloper' genoemd, nou dan weet je het wel...
Moet je de groene lijn volgen of het rode pad?😂 nee flauw, waar is de groene lijn voor??
👍
I have to say that I'm not a fan of the use of green lines for bike paths. It's not as much of an eye sore as the completely green bike lanes in North America, but I really hope this doesn't catch on...
We only miss bike-highway-type-intersections now with level separated on- and offramps!
16km of bicycle route.. total cost = 22 milion euro's worth noticing
Oh, De Efteling at 38:00
Get rid of the da*m scooters !!
I applaud these bikepaths. I think it is wonderful idea that will stimulate e-biking even more. I'm convinced this is a first step in getting speed pedelecs to allow usage of such paths as well. Currently they are supposed to use the regular road, but that isn't exactly safe and leads to a lot of frustration by car drivers. Once there's enough bikepaths as this; it's a no-brainer to also allow speed pedelecs on them.
In the netherlands we're trying to get rid of the speed peddles, they are too fast and unsafe.
@@N911GT2 Well, aside from the fast and unsafety nature, if we need to go that fast, why don't we join the traffic down the road? Right? And a motorbike is faster than an e-bike.
Dit is de ervaring van fietsen maar toch lekker op de bank
Fiets simulator 2021! 😂
tilburg best city ever
🤣
And after that ride, after filming go to coffeeshop
wat grappig ja .
@@rieksstevens :)
Next time bring the km that you drive in the movie, the traffic boards are borning, we see them to much, and my mother smashed it to much away from here garden when i came drunk to home, in the time old history times that you can go out
I loved cycling in Holland..but since returning to Florida and our roads, I see there are no highway guard rails separating the cyclists of a Holland from the drivers....The drivers in America don’t care about the cyclists...
In the Netherland every driver is also a cyclist
There are no cyclists on the highway in the Netherlands..
Is horrible the are no streat lights i use to travel evry day at 5 i the morning
In the Netherlands the bicycles are equipped with front and rear lights which are powered by a dynamo that will power the lights while the wheels are going around.
They will place streetlights in the future I think, this project is still being build in phases, and plans are to be ready completely in 2025.
As for "bromfietsers"; if your" bromfiets" can ride at the posted speed limits, (most can...)then they belong on the main traffic lanes; I say....
auto te gast
Those motorcycles on the path seem really annoying.
Mopeds make the worst noises. Farting motorbikes
At a time of global warming it is shocking that the Netherlands allows fossil fuelled scooters on bicycle paths!
Dont use your pc or phone for typing this comment, electronics are really bad for the environment
The Dutch do so much more and better than anywhere i have ever seen,your comment shows ignorance of their incredibly clever solutions to eco poroblems,i worked there as a schilder (painter)20 years ago and their system for recycling of EVERYTHING possible could teach the world,do not dare pollute their water system,it may carry the death penalty,they are so serious about it.
@@ufoclips1 While the death penalty doesn't exist in the Netherlands anymore,
we just might reinstitute it for that single purpose indeed. 😎
@@mourlyvold64 And you would be correct,you have a beautiful country,i hope to revisit as soon as the restrictions disappear,if they ever do!
I Life in Waalwijk, and it is a much faster ride from Tilburg to Loon op Zand and from there ride between The forrest 🌳 to Waalwijk. And it is a much better Beautiful ride too between the trees 🌳🌲 in The forrest 👍😉 NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WOMEN ONLY ❗️But it is not dangerus 😃
This city belongs to germany!
How's that?
Vreselijk al die suizende auto's om je heen. Dat had beter gekund en gemoeten echt slecht doordacht. Al denk je fijn te fietsen. Dus niet met al die dampen. Jammer.
Ik heb vijftig jaar naast en achter de auto's gefietst en mijn longinhoud is met 35% vermindert.
Je lijkt wel een papagaai met je herhalingen iedere keer weer. 😁
Tilburg 🤢🤮
Blijf je toch lekker thuis...
I'm not really impressed. The roads do not seem to be wide enough
At some places it certainly is quite cramped. But that's only at the places they just couldn't find more space.
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 or haven’t yet made agreements with supply and demand in that category that making it wider would make a major difference
Niet zo zeiken man
Wide enough for what?
Right? No place to haul mah fourwheeler.