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The Cautionary Tale of Running Bamboo: Don’t Unleash Vigorous Plants w/o Good Design…or Just Don’t

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  • Опубліковано 3 січ 2022
  • In permaculture, we often use non-native species in our design. When considering releasing an animal or plant into a landscape, we have a responsibility to our property, our neighbors, the ecosystem to do due diligence and design carefully. Doubly so for generalist and opportunistic and vigorous species (goats, kudzu, Himalayan blackberries are all cautionary tales).
    Here in Portland, running bamboo is heavily marketed and used as a “fast-growing privacy screen”. Let’s take a look at these running bamboos and why I usually caution against their use in the garden.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 40

  • @mcmigs1725
    @mcmigs1725 2 роки тому +4

    My wife thought it was absurd when I said I wouldn’t even consider buying a house with bamboo planted. Running bamboo is one of the most destructive and invasive plants. Honestly not sure what would “win” between bamboo and kudzu.

    • @interrupthandler8873
      @interrupthandler8873 2 роки тому

      Japanese knotweed. Fighting that on one front and bamboo on another. I thank the previous owners every day. 😔

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate 2 роки тому +8

    I like using a large amount of native plants in my yard. If they escape, they're not going to be incredibly disruptive. Most of all of the problem plants I've had to deal with have all been non-native (i.e. japanese honeysuckle on the east coast).
    I think nurseries are a huge problem with how they sell easy-to-grow, vigorous non-native plants. They want to sell plants, and don't necessarily care about what happens down the road. Kinda sad.

    • @Hayley-sl9lm
      @Hayley-sl9lm 2 роки тому +2

      I think they need more regulation from local depts of ag...

  • @dfhepner
    @dfhepner 2 роки тому +5

    In my early years in Southern California my father was trying to get rid of the bamboo out of the yard. It would even come up in the street coming through the asphalt. I was about 7. Since then I have been leery of bamboo.

  • @bassoonrckr
    @bassoonrckr 2 роки тому +3

    I love instead of just a list of invasive species we’re observing how an invasive plant changes it’s surroundings. When I was renovating my boss’s house we fought a war against wisteria and I would ask if she felt like she was winning/getting rid of it slowly. I didn’t really understand why she was fighting so hard. But now I’ve got my own property and I can see the wisteria coming over my back fence from my neighbors yard and I can see Japanese honeysuckle coming up as the grape vine hedge dies back for the winter. I’m keeping an eye on them and will soon be working on getting rid of some of that honeysuckle.

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  2 роки тому +2

      My dad has a wisteria and I have to prune it four times a year and then take regular snippets to keep it from pulling siding off the house. It’s a beast. Wisteria is sooooo vigorous, I think most folks don’t realize how much diligent maintenance it takes. And then what happens if you become ill or have an injury and can’t prune it…it gets out of hand FAST.

  • @CairnOfDunnCroftPermaculture
    @CairnOfDunnCroftPermaculture 2 роки тому +3

    I regularly see running bamboo suggested in food forests, claiming that the harvesting of shoots will actively control it. My feeling is that if any one species can overwhelm others unless it's aggressively controlled then it's not a resilient design. I have a few types of running bamboo on my property, but eventually they'll be planted out on islands.

  • @jeffreywickens3379
    @jeffreywickens3379 2 роки тому +2

    Here in Hawaii, I have a VERY obnoxious neighbor, and very shallow and rocky soil, so I'll have to take a chance with running bamboo.

  • @permiebird937
    @permiebird937 2 роки тому +1

    Years ago, I was given some running bamboo that I put in a large pot to stop a light in my kitchen from beaming into my neighbor's house. It all went swimmingly, until I had a severe, debilitating, and lengthy side effect to a medication and wasn't able to cut runners when they left the container. Its made a bit of a clump, thankfully its not a happy location for a bamboo, and removing is in its future, but even carefully laid plans to contain bamboo can fail, under difficult situations.
    That said, I planted another running bamboo, a Sasa Kurilensis 'Shimofuri' edible, about 8 ft tall and thin enough canes to easily cut with a lawnmower. I planted it on the green strip between sidewalk and street, between 2 flowering cherries, at my former home. That bamboo is still doing great and behaving itself.
    What I used for a fast wind break on the street front of my yard when I first moved in and needed desperately needed a windbreak is Buddlia/ Butterfly bush. The wild form is quite invasive, but domesticated varieties generally aren't. I used domestic varieties, and they have been great for this purpose. I've even propagated some to give to friends desperate to plant out bothersome neighbors or busy streets. It covers faster than bamboo grows to 12 feet in 2 years, prune in early spring to encourage it, and if you want to get rid of it, cut it to the ground during bloom season, it's so much easier to manage.

  • @shleegar
    @shleegar 2 роки тому +3

    I planted a perennial sunflower that just spreads like mad. I planted it way before I understood the importance of planning.

    • @Hayley-sl9lm
      @Hayley-sl9lm 2 роки тому

      Curious which perennial sunflower spreads like mad? Just from re-seeding or rhizomes?

    • @shleegar
      @shleegar 2 роки тому

      @@Hayley-sl9lm rhizomes. I don't know what the variety is. I got it at a plant swap years ago. The man said he had a hedge row of them for privacy.
      I'll have to try a Google image search of the flowers and try to ID it. They aren't sunchokes.

    • @composthog4332
      @composthog4332 Рік тому

      Could it be Maximilian sunflower? My sister has removed hers four times! 😜 So beautiful but huge and quite invasive!

  • @youngbuck5009
    @youngbuck5009 2 роки тому +2

    It’s unusual to see this in Michigan but my parent’s neighbor does have this type of bamboo. One nursery pot essentially turned into a bamboo forest in the middle of his 5 acres. Virginia creeper is our scourge here and I find it unbelievable that you can buy it at the big box stores. I fight it every year and it comes up all over via seed.

  • @ruzinauddin7671
    @ruzinauddin7671 6 місяців тому

    Even if they say it is clamping bamboo. Clamping bamboo also get out of hand and can be a nightmare

  • @joansmith3492
    @joansmith3492 2 роки тому +2

    Even Geoff Lawton loves clumping bamboo. I believe he has old Hamaii. Not all bamboo is the same. This is over simplified. No one completely understands any plant, the first time they plant it.

  • @carolinekloppert5177
    @carolinekloppert5177 Місяць тому

    Bamboo has taken over my friend's whole yard. Apparently you can kill it by mowing it down completely and then cutting the canes that emerge at ground level when they are at full height but just before leafing out. The theory is that they never get to photosynthesize and you sap all the stored energy that way. Sounds like it would take years. Is clumping bamboo also dangerous ? Mine has taken four years to really get big canes.

  • @Hayley-sl9lm
    @Hayley-sl9lm 2 роки тому +1

    What is a certified bamboo barrier? My neighbor has bamboo that spreads into our yard and I don't think they 'd agree to us removing it. We wondered if we could put some kind of barrier by the fence but we're not sure what will work.

  • @wadya
    @wadya 7 місяців тому

    What Phyllostachys bamboo is that?

  • @gardenextra7415
    @gardenextra7415 2 роки тому +2

    I like bamboo, sorry you are bothered by it. I have heard and read in my research that in the South they do have a real problem with it, and in some areas it is illegal.

  • @simplifylifenow
    @simplifylifenow 2 роки тому +1

    I understand that this is not an option for everyone but you can use pigs to keep bamboo in check, or even wipe it out.

  • @gardenextra7415
    @gardenextra7415 2 роки тому

    I was worried enough to go back and check my records and I am using clumping bamboo. I think your point was to research before you buy and thankfully I did. I will enjoy my clumping bamboo

  • @hokeypokeypots
    @hokeypokeypots 2 роки тому

    Yeah! I bought a house with a 100' long and 15' wide bamboo privacy screen behind the swimming pool.
    As a gardener, I knew what a headache this was gonna be to deal with...especially since the previous owners never put in a barrier and just mowed over the shoots that ran into the lawn.
    I cut back 10' of the border to the ground and dug all of the runners out of the lawn over the five years that I've lived here...and exposed any roots that are headed into the lawn so that they point up, but I still have to deal with the 10' wide root clumps where I cut back the border.
    I don't want to use an excavator to clear them out, since they're too close to the oak trees behind the bamboo and I don't want to damage their roots. Might try black plastic to starve the clumps of water and light...or maybe dripping Roundup on each new cut shoot.
    After I get those clumps out,.I'll put an 18" plastic barrier to stop what's left from running, since most of it is under the trees and would be impossible to get out by digging.

    • @Hayley-sl9lm
      @Hayley-sl9lm 2 роки тому

      I'm not sure if round-up would work, isn't bamboo a grass? It only affects broadleaf weeds.

    • @Hayley-sl9lm
      @Hayley-sl9lm 2 роки тому

      Nm I googled it and people are saying that it does kill it, however a lot of people say that it only kills the top growth and the plant will just re-sprout from rhizomes.

  • @devon932001
    @devon932001 2 роки тому

    Great information.

  • @ingeleonora-denouden6222
    @ingeleonora-denouden6222 2 роки тому

    Good you give that warning.
    I only have a not-running species of bamboo and it gives nice usable canes too. I don't know its name, it was given to me by a garden-friend.

  • @Youdontknowmeson1324
    @Youdontknowmeson1324 Рік тому

    Just use the leaves as chop and drop just keep on cutting the plants and put deep metal around the place where it’s growing. Also pick bigger clumping bamboos or native bamboo or micianthus gigantues

  • @robbiehayes5508
    @robbiehayes5508 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much. What's the besty way to remove running bamboo - do you have to just pull it all out physically?

  • @dawnhood3666
    @dawnhood3666 2 роки тому

    Totally agree!

  • @sherirae
    @sherirae 2 роки тому

    Berry canes can be invasive too!

  • @interrupthandler8873
    @interrupthandler8873 2 роки тому

    Bamboo, Japanese knotweed and the others that spread by growing bone like roots, should be outlawed.

    • @lauralichterman1858
      @lauralichterman1858 2 роки тому

      My property has both of these as well as blackberries and wisteria from the previous owner, and I am trying to figure out how to deal with it now... It's a huge pain. Several of these plants are on a steep hillside so I can't just dig them up and expose it to erosion. Blah.

  • @at1the1beginning
    @at1the1beginning 2 роки тому

    Angela, do you read your messages on social media?

  • @Ally-zu5lg
    @Ally-zu5lg 2 роки тому +1

    So I should not plant bamboo???? Lol lol lol 😂

    • @interrupthandler8873
      @interrupthandler8873 2 роки тому

      Don't do it. They should be outlawed

    • @Ally-zu5lg
      @Ally-zu5lg 2 роки тому +1

      @@interrupthandler8873 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @Ally-zu5lg
      @Ally-zu5lg 2 роки тому +1

      🤣😂🤣😂🤣.....I actually found red bamboo...not invasive

  • @goatsticks101
    @goatsticks101 2 роки тому +1

    just tell us what to do / not to do, not explain why we should listen. looking for simple facts