Have to say, the Bok fans are incredible and a credit to world Rugby, I have never seen the likes of that support including the World Cup. listening to a couple of interviews last night in the stadium with Tim and the fans really impressed me. I suppose it reinforces the fact that most of the Bok comments stirring up the shit are all fair weather supporters listening to commentators. The Boks will be back, no doubt. Rugby is in a good place generally. All we need now is the Welsh to come good, which I hope will happen sooner than later. For Ireland we have so much talent in the pipeline and the future is bright. With the new IRFU ruling in reference to the Irish clubs on the front row we should see a shift in depth in the future. For me, Doris was the player of all the tests, Farrell got emotional about that yesterday in his post match. What an incredible achievement, leading by example, exactly how O Mahony done it for us in the past.. this match has been great for Irish Rugby with all the doom and gloom over the last year. And considering we won a six nations and it was all seen as a negative. Role it on boys 🇮🇪☘️
Ireland has always been world class. NZ has been very lucky against them over the years. Huge players, genuine talent, real passion. Brian O'Driscoll was my favorite player
That's very kind of you to ay about the Bok fans. We have some awful people in our ranks though. Threatening referees is a sure sign that someone is a proper prick.
And kudos to Farrell for seeing what Osbourne could bring at 15. Surely Farrell has to be the No.1 coach in the world right now. Fewer resources than NZ or SA but a series win against NZ and a drawn series in SA, after successive Six Nations Championships. Yes, the old WC ¼Final hoodoo can still be levelled at Ireland, but there were very small margins in that competition.
Agree that Ireland back 5 is much more balanced now. POM has been a passenger there since the World Cup, maybe coming on 20 mins at the end is the best role for him at this stage in his career. Doris will be Lions Captain next year.
Yeeeeeeasssss Tim Conor was the best 9 in the world for years he doesn't forget does he. Unbelievable folk saying a "big drop off" if Murray plays. Clearly no understanding of Murray or the game.
I don't watch NH rugby but that Irish prop Andrew Porter what a tank, im a Kiwi but he would be my first choice, when Ireland were under the pump that bloke stood up like some Dwarf with Axe out of a Lord of the rings movie And i agreed Beauden Barrett man of the match took him less than 30 minutes to change the game
We all know Porter is a world class player but this past weekend it felt like he was behind the ball game.. Gave away unnecessary penalties in the breakdowns, tackling the scrumhalf and laying on the wrong side. In the scrum, Ox flattened him. I honesþy think Ox deserves that spot
As a New Zealander, I have nothing but respect for ntoji and that monster English forward pack. They were awesome to watch and I felt we were lucky to win both games. Smith was first class.
Itoje has socked it to the ABs before, I think the ABs bring out the best in him. Although he was out on his feet in the last quarter and needed to be subbed.
As a very happy Irishman, I was equally shocked at how good Murray was and still is. As good as Dorris's performance was I do think Ard' Savea was a beast . Can we reclaim Zombie now?
@@shizzlemarizzle As a SAFFA, it will never be a SA song as long as the memory of Dolores is still alive. And for most of us, that will be forever. Of course, that doesn't mean we can't take the piss from time to time 🤣 Congrats on your win. Well deserved!
Great choices for all the right reasons Tim. Maybe one or two I'd change but it's borderline, it reflects what a great weekend of Rugby we were treated to.
Hi Tim Thanks was great being with you on your trip, was in SA in 2006 a great country and you showed some friends of mine who made this trip in your pre game video. would love to see a video from you on the players to watch for the future from this couple of weeks. Safe travels.
Tim thanks for bringing us couch potatoes the prematch and post match atmosphere at the games you covered and at the outset I value your analysis after each game as its impartial and backed up with solid reasons why your team was chosen. Safe travels back home to you and the Irish fans who made the trip to SA.
Markus smith, wow kiwi here, he was so impressive in both games, how good is he going to become in time. It’s great someone is noticing Jordie Barrett, he does so much all game and so well.
I was so worried about the players we were missing at the beginning of this series but I think we can be more assured now having watching Jamie Osborne and Frawley this weekend! We are in safe hands going forward.
Doubt if that was a dive. He got clipped during a full speed charge-down. Was going to decide the outcome so worth while to check but the right call was made in the end.
@@Chris____zzzzzYou can clearly hear he went full for the players legs and as soon as he landed he turned and he has his arms up looking for attention from the ref. It was sad from such a good player.
I think you have that pretty much spot on. Ill just throw in a shout for Ronan Kelleher because of his work around the park which added to the ' physicality' for Ireland
Great to see new players like Osborne and Feyi-Waboso coming through. Crawley and Frawley are both excellent, just don't try saying both names in the same sentence quickly :)
When you were going through your team, after four players you had zero Irishmen, after they had just beaten the world champs in their own backyard, but I shouldn't have doubted you. To be fair, the Irish front row had a hard day in the scrum. But six in your final fifteen is a fair reflection of the achievement of winning away in SA. One of your picks had me conflicted. As an Ulsterman I keep banging on about Cooney not being given a chance, but I have to take my hat off to Murray, he gave a masterclass in control, passing and kicking, while de Klerk looked ordinary. Great analysis, as always, and the variety of your output is commendable.
@@siviwenjajula5844 yeah, you guys need a good all around fly half. With Libbok in maybe you would have scored a try, but he would have probably missed three kicks to balance it out 😆
Itoje certainly is a huge menace at opponents’ lineouts, but he did slip back into his penchant for committing penalties at inopportune times - seems he had at least three he shouldn’t have had. Btw, Charlie Morgan in The Telegraph has done something interesting after these tests: He’s got a column taking an early look at who might get picked for the Lions tour. Of course he didn’t have fresh data from the Scots, though he does give nods to Duhan v.d.M, Schoeman, Huw Jones, Tuipolotu and Scott Cummings….but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Good picks, though, Tim.
Hi Tim, My name is Ayrton Lakay, and I am the founder of the Overberg Dragons Rugby Club. I recently watched your video about the amateur league structures in England and was inspired by your insights. I share your passion for highlighting amateur leagues and believe that digital technologies and fan engagement can significantly elevate these leagues. At Overberg Dragons, we aim to merge the thrill of rugby with cutting-edge digital engagement. Our club is committed to demonstrating to clubs in the Boland region, and across South Africa, how to effectively utilize digital technologies and enhance fan engagement. This approach not only strengthens club operations but also provides avenues for monetization through innovative technology The Overberg Dragons Rugby Club will be based in the Overberg region of the Boland province in South Africa. The Boland boasts the highest concentration of rugby clubs in the country, with over 200 clubs competing each weekend. Our goal is to leverage this vibrant rugby culture and showcase how digital integration can revolutionize amateur rugby Thank you for your time, and I look forward to any opportunity to discuss this further and potentially collaborate. Best regards, Ayrton Lakay Founder, Overberg Dragons Rugby Club
Err, the Saffas had their most capped team ever, and, guess what, they lost... in other words, have a wee rethink and give us a reason for your statement...
Tim, love the XV you picked. But I must say.... that there is a beast under our noses and it's England. Jones is using al his experience over the years and putting it into England. Maybe thats why Boks are changing the style they are playing. Example I think the box kick is not as effective as in the past. Every team has its way of protecting the ball and running obstruction lines. I expect a strong England performance next year six nations maybe even end of year. ❤ the channel
Love the 15, apart from I'd maybe have the new aussie 13 from the reds instead of Henshaw. Maro number 2 is generous. His discipline let the team down second half. I'd probably have the Ox number 2.
I get your point about his three penalties in yhe last 20 mins but his performance in the first 60 mins was outstanding. Overall he comes out in credit , I think he deserves his place
Itoje is a 80 min player however he did seem to be blowing after 60 mins but that was hardly the norm. Yes he gave away 3 penalties in the last 20 but his penalty count overall has been very good. I didn't understand what you meant about giving penalties in dangerous places.
@@patrickchilds2987 His penalties often come when defending around the 2OM mark ie easily converted into 3 points. Itoge has to work hard because he is often doing the job of the back row at breakdowns, he's an outstanding player and has racked up an immense playing time since before the RWC. I just wish he had better support, Mercer & Willis !!! My comments particularly about fatigue related purely to this match, if you go through his England appearances though you will see that he has a significant penalty count.
From my perspective, all the relatively inexperienced Irish players stood up against the toughest opponents they could play. Osborne was great from the first game (he debuted on tour btw), Blade kept things going from when he came on, and Frawley the ice man. So the Irish team could say that they were as successful as they could’ve hoped for; series draw, new captain, depth built… SA also had the likes of Feinberg Mngomezulu, and I’m sure other nations have young talents ready to go.
Maybe not. Think Faf adds things to the Springbok engine that no one seems to notice. However, one guy who was found out yesterday was Handre Pollard. If we have no playmaker in the midfield then all we have is kicks and that is not going to win us games, not against the likes of Ireland or New Zealand.
Losing Willie Le Roux early on must be Pollards recurring nightmare, and it happened yesterday. I understand now why Mgmt was trying desperately to get Manny up to speed, especially with Am not playing 13. Two fantastic games and probably a fair outcome over 160 minutes. We can only dream of what a 3rd game would have given us.
Tim, please can you do some coverage of the England U20's. Front row destroying everything in front of them - Borthwick please take note.Many thanks for your excellent reporting - just love it!
Agreed about Murray, and I feel like Caolin Blade deserves a mention. The fact that it was barely noticeable when he came on speaks to how well he played. No noticeable drop off from my perspective.
No doubt Murray played a blinder and Blade did well, but I'm sticking to my guns... why does the guy who is there or thereabouts every season as the best 9 in the URC keep getting overlooked? If you don't know who I'm talking about, have a wee think.
What’s happened to ben earl? He’s been transparent this series and had a bit of a shocker yesterday. Don’t want to write him off but felt as though we need the bulk of Jack Willis to bust the gain line in tight play.
Your selections pretty thorough . . But, I would have given top replacement to Frawley . . ..to do that, to have the confidence, the ba**s to kick two amazing drop goals especially after his miss in the champuons cup final . . . in the back yard of the World champs takes some doing . . . And having said that Barratt was playing at home . . . At EdenPark an All black fortress . ...
Hey you're not from the northern hemisphere, are ya? Ya wouldn't know it mate. 😅 But that Irish fullback won the game for Ireland. And they made the best try of the weekend, so yeah - it was a green weekend. But what a stadium in SA. Wow.
Just pick 15 Tadhg Beirne's & that will do. Did you hear Kolbe is taking a stap back from rugby to concentrate on the Olympics? He's going for gold in diving. He's been practicing a lot.
I thought England left something on the field and didnt feel they wanted it enough but just a view from afar. And NZ down but never out they are such a force
I like IFW, but my eyes must be lying to me regarding him being rapid. Now if you were to say Sleightholme and the word rapid together in the same sentence I would heartily agree. When has IFW ever won a clear one-on-one footrace?
Wouldn’t say they underperformed. They just came up against a team who wanted it more. 50/50 possession and territory, SA had more metres made, more defenders beaten, better tackle success, bullied our scrum, conceded less penalties, 14 lineout wins Vs 8 for Ireland showing they had plenty of attacking platform opps, 8 kickable penalties showing the pressure they were putting us under. On paper they outperformed us in all major aspects of the game. Definitely 2 of the top teams in the world right now
I thought that for the first 60 mins he was likely the best player on the pitch . Certainly his strung of penalties in the last 20 were disappointing but he didn't lose England the game . Overall he was bet positive. Without Itoje NZ would have scored a lot more points
Haha..he is indeed. Although his rugby improved by going to NZ. Unfortunately for you guys, his famous father, and his heritage ties to NZ meant his desire to play for the AB’s was too strong.
Lomax was born in Canberra while his father (NZ rugby league legend) was playing for the Raiders which means his country of birth is Australia but his nationality is NZ, I guess that means Lomax is playing for the correct country 😆
@@jormundgandr88 OK, while also eligible for AU, Lomax chose to play for NZ who he was also eligible. Lomax doesn't become the player he is now if he stays in AU. As for De Groot, he was born in AU but his family moved back to NZ when he was an infant, and with Williams and Taylor, they were born in Whangarei and Levin.
Why do SA, have a bee in their bonnet when it comes to Ireland. Even misquoting what Irish players said after their match in World Cup. Ridiculous tbh.
Seriously, English is not there first language. There is also a cultural difference in how statements are interpreted. An example of this was Ebens interpretation of the Irish squads hard luck and pat on the back statement after we beat them. I would like to be more positive about how the Boks behave after loses.
The Attack on Malcolm Marx’s knee by Calvin Doris and one of the Irish Locks that resulted in a yellow card and left Malcolm Marx limping was a low point in the Match imho
He didn’t attack his knee intentionally I think somebody is watching a bit too much wildcard rugby. he just tried to get him off the ball admittedly he did crock roll but it wasn’t in the neck like it normally is. What made it look worse was he was joined in the tackle by James Ryan behind him that made it look worse than it was. It’s Caelin Doris btw.
I don't think it was intentional. Was a croc-roll and the ref gave the yellow. Marx is obviously very difficult to shift off the ball and when you are desperate you sometimes make bad decisions in the heat of the moment.
@@ciaranbrk Even Ryan coming in his arms are around Marx's waist, wasn't anything wrong with his hit. Doris doesn't fall on his leg either, he falls beside it. Only wrong bit is Doris having his hand on the Marx's thigh, which he should have let go of, but since he was falling down under Ryan you can understand him holding onto something.
Great coverage as always, you looked to have had an amazing time in SA! I have to admit the English team impressed me, I feel they look like they can only get better. I think there's very little between SA, Ireland, New Zealand and England currently, which is great for the game of rugby and even better for us fans! Being Irish I'm bias but I really was impressed with our resilience and resolve! A little nugget of info as you seemed impressed by Jamie Osborne, he has a younger brother Andrew who is quite the player too! 😉
I knew the Boks were in trouble with Connor Murray on the field. Incredible player in his own right and reads the play for the team matchlessly. Great player!
Have to say, the Bok fans are incredible and a credit to world Rugby, I have never seen the likes of that support including the World Cup. listening to a couple of interviews last night in the stadium with Tim and the fans really impressed me. I suppose it reinforces the fact that most of the Bok comments stirring up the shit are all fair weather supporters listening to commentators. The Boks will be back, no doubt. Rugby is in a good place generally. All we need now is the Welsh to come good, which I hope will happen sooner than later. For Ireland we have so much talent in the pipeline and the future is bright. With the new IRFU ruling in reference to the Irish clubs on the front row we should see a shift in depth in the future. For me, Doris was the player of all the tests, Farrell got emotional about that yesterday in his post match. What an incredible achievement, leading by example, exactly how O Mahony done it for us in the past.. this match has been great for Irish Rugby with all the doom and gloom over the last year. And considering we won a six nations and it was all seen as a negative. Role it on boys 🇮🇪☘️
Well said 😊🇿🇦🇮🇪
Spot on, ☘🇮🇪
Ireland has always been world class.
NZ has been very lucky against them over the years.
Huge players, genuine talent, real passion.
Brian O'Driscoll was my favorite player
That's very kind of you to ay about the Bok fans. We have some awful people in our ranks though. Threatening referees is a sure sign that someone is a proper prick.
I am glad u spotted how well james ryan played ..had it hard in recent games , injuries etc ...but class is always there
Best I’ve seen Ryan play in a while. He came out fighting.
That Irish fullback really impressed me. Coming from a kiwi.
Jame Osborne normally plays inside centre he is a classy young player.
Ugly man here, B Barrett is sick
@@drh02 He has hands and skill like an old school Kiwi back line player
Didn't miss a single high ball
Jamie has a few younger brothers coming up the ranks, Andrew one of them, is showing some great potential!!!
Jamie Osborne take a bow. Brings brilliant depth to the Irish team now when Keenan comes back. Very comfortable playing center aswell
He was absolutely immense.🙌
Osborne was great! Got frustrated at the Boks every time they kicked the ball with this guy at the back.
And kudos to Farrell for seeing what Osbourne could bring at 15. Surely Farrell has to be the No.1 coach in the world right now. Fewer resources than NZ or SA but a series win against NZ and a drawn series in SA, after successive Six Nations Championships. Yes, the old WC ¼Final hoodoo can still be levelled at Ireland, but there were very small margins in that competition.
I wrote off murray thinking he was too old for a lava test like yesterday. So glad im wrong, he was brilliant.
I honestly don’t know how many times that man has been written off.
Agree that Ireland back 5 is much more balanced now. POM has been a passenger there since the World Cup, maybe coming on 20 mins at the end is the best role for him at this stage in his career. Doris will be Lions Captain next year.
Yeeeeeeasssss Tim Conor was the best 9 in the world for years he doesn't forget does he. Unbelievable folk saying a "big drop off" if Murray plays. Clearly no understanding of Murray or the game.
@@neillscannell9278in fairness Murray has been poor for the past year. He was outstanding yesterday mind.
@@timmydonlon3458incorrect. Did you watch him away to Bulls and Kings?
I don't watch NH rugby but that Irish prop Andrew Porter what a tank, im a Kiwi but he would be my first choice, when Ireland were under the pump that bloke stood up like some Dwarf with Axe out of a Lord of the rings movie
And i agreed Beauden Barrett man of the match took him less than 30 minutes to change the game
The Barret genes are superior. As a South African, is hard for me to say, but they are top players.
Gotta disagree, Porter was under the Kosh in the scrums and gives away too many penalties in the loose. Ox was the clear choice here.
(I'm Irish btw)
Porter was dominated by Ox clearly
@@gilliandawson6567. And lived in Ireland when they were Young. 😳🤔🧐
We all know Porter is a world class player but this past weekend it felt like he was behind the ball game.. Gave away unnecessary penalties in the breakdowns, tackling the scrumhalf and laying on the wrong side. In the scrum, Ox flattened him. I honesþy think Ox deserves that spot
As a New Zealander, I have nothing but respect for ntoji and that monster English forward pack. They were awesome to watch and I felt we were lucky to win both games. Smith was first class.
Not enough respect to get his name right. It's Itoje.
Itoje has socked it to the ABs before, I think the ABs bring out the best in him. Although he was out on his feet in the last quarter and needed to be subbed.
Taking a moment to let you know that your videos are the best!!! 🎉
As a very happy Irishman, I was equally shocked at how good Murray was and still is. As good as Dorris's performance was I do think Ard' Savea was a beast . Can we reclaim Zombie now?
Murray was great and he is discounted too easily. Was lucky with the Kolbe pass though!
Saffas trying their best to claim it, it’ll never not be a Limerick song.
@@shizzlemarizzle As a SAFFA, it will never be a SA song as long as the memory of Dolores is still alive. And for most of us, that will be forever.
Of course, that doesn't mean we can't take the piss from time to time 🤣
Congrats on your win. Well deserved!
Best rugby content anywhere and has been for almost two years. Bravo 👏
Great choices for all the right reasons Tim. Maybe one or two I'd change but it's borderline, it reflects what a great weekend of Rugby we were treated to.
Hi Tim Thanks was great being with you on your trip, was in SA in 2006 a great country and you showed some friends of mine who made this trip in your pre game video. would love to see a video from you on the players to watch for the future from this couple of weeks. Safe travels.
Even though I'm irish i think some Pumas deserve a shout too they had a great game over france thenselves.
Probably. Hope Tim can review his selection by watching the rest of the international games!
Tim thanks for bringing us couch potatoes the prematch and post match atmosphere at the games you covered and at the outset I value your analysis after each game as its impartial and backed up with solid reasons why your team was chosen. Safe travels back home to you and the Irish fans who made the trip to SA.
Cannot argue with your selections. Had other players in mind at first but after you put yours up was thinking “Yup, spot on”
Markus smith, wow kiwi here, he was so impressive in both games, how good is he going to become in time. It’s great someone is noticing Jordie Barrett, he does so much all game and so well.
Beauden Barrett, is the best super sub in the world. He does it so often.
I was so worried about the players we were missing at the beginning of this series but I think we can be more assured now having watching Jamie Osborne and Frawley this weekend! We are in safe hands going forward.
Kolbe made the South African Olympic diving team. Congratulations 👍 🎊
Doubt if that was a dive. He got clipped during a full speed charge-down. Was going to decide the outcome so worth while to check but the right call was made in the end.
He’ll walk it.
@@Chris____zzzzzYou can clearly hear he went full for the players legs and as soon as he landed he turned and he has his arms up looking for attention from the ref. It was sad from such a good player.
I think you have that pretty much spot on. Ill just throw in a shout for Ronan Kelleher because of his work around the park which added to the ' physicality' for Ireland
I felt the same about Conor Murray but he was perfect for the game plan Ireland had. Osborne was a revelation under the high ball
First time Smith has stepped up at the top level, fair play to him. But very hard to select anyone in front of Frawley this weekend, what a legend!
Great to see new players like Osborne and Feyi-Waboso coming through. Crawley and Frawley are both excellent, just don't try saying both names in the same sentence quickly :)
It's Crowley not Crawley
Great job Tim, cant wait until you back in SA for the Nz test matches, keep well mate!!
Brilliant analysis Tim great video
Great work Tim! Legend
Cannot fault any of the choices, some incredible performances during the weekend.
When you were going through your team, after four players you had zero Irishmen, after they had just beaten the world champs in their own backyard, but I shouldn't have doubted you. To be fair, the Irish front row had a hard day in the scrum. But six in your final fifteen is a fair reflection of the achievement of winning away in SA. One of your picks had me conflicted. As an Ulsterman I keep banging on about Cooney not being given a chance, but I have to take my hat off to Murray, he gave a masterclass in control, passing and kicking, while de Klerk looked ordinary. Great analysis, as always, and the variety of your output is commendable.
Marcus Smith was amazing. Fair play. From a Kiwi (feels cringey to include but we're a proud/biased fanbase in general)
BUZZING for your player power rankings, they’re such great discussion material and help get the names of players on the up and up out there
Itoje gave away too many penalties one that cost the game. McCarthy all day was better. Everything else spot on 👍
Pollard deserves a mention for going 8/8 from the tee. The heroic drop goal wouldn’t have been necessary if he would have just missed one!
No. He was clueless in general play and Im South African
@@siviwenjajula5844 yeah, you guys need a good all around fly half. With Libbok in maybe you would have scored a try, but he would have probably missed three kicks to balance it out 😆
osbourne went 7 from 7 under the high ball!
Itoje certainly is a huge menace at opponents’ lineouts, but he did slip back into his penchant for committing penalties at inopportune times - seems he had at least three he shouldn’t have had. Btw, Charlie Morgan in The Telegraph has done something interesting after these tests: He’s got a column taking an early look at who might get picked for the Lions tour. Of course he didn’t have fresh data from the Scots, though he does give nods to Duhan v.d.M, Schoeman, Huw Jones, Tuipolotu and Scott Cummings….but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Good picks, though, Tim.
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My name is Ayrton Lakay, and I am the founder of the Overberg Dragons Rugby Club. I recently watched your video about the amateur league structures in England and was inspired by your insights. I share your passion for highlighting amateur leagues and believe that digital technologies and fan engagement can significantly elevate these leagues.
At Overberg Dragons, we aim to merge the thrill of rugby with cutting-edge digital engagement. Our club is committed to demonstrating to clubs in the Boland region, and across South Africa, how to effectively utilize digital technologies and enhance fan engagement. This approach not only strengthens club operations but also provides avenues for monetization through innovative technology
The Overberg Dragons Rugby Club will be based in the Overberg region of the Boland province in South Africa. The Boland boasts the highest concentration of rugby clubs in the country, with over 200 clubs competing each weekend. Our goal is to leverage this vibrant rugby culture and showcase how digital integration can revolutionize amateur rugby
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What about Fin Baxter? Young and mature.
@@vanessamay3689 Osbourne
Err, the Saffas had their most capped team ever, and, guess what, they lost... in other words, have a wee rethink and give us a reason for your statement...
Tim, love the XV you picked. But I must say.... that there is a beast under our noses and it's England. Jones is using al his experience over the years and putting it into England. Maybe thats why Boks are changing the style they are playing. Example I think the box kick is not as effective as in the past. Every team has its way of protecting the ball and running obstruction lines. I expect a strong England performance next year six nations maybe even end of year. ❤ the channel
Love the 15, apart from I'd maybe have the new aussie 13 from the reds instead of Henshaw. Maro number 2 is generous. His discipline let the team down second half. I'd probably have the Ox number 2.
I get your point about his three penalties in yhe last 20 mins but his performance in the first 60 mins was outstanding. Overall he comes out in credit , I think he deserves his place
Good welshman thar feyi waboso 😉
Two problems with Itoge, he was done no gas after 60 minutes, he gives too many penalties in dangerous positions, always has done.
Itoje is a 80 min player however he did seem to be blowing after 60 mins but that was hardly the norm.
Yes he gave away 3 penalties in the last 20 but his penalty count overall has been very good. I didn't understand what you meant about giving penalties in dangerous places.
@@patrickchilds2987 His penalties often come when defending around the 2OM mark ie easily converted into 3 points. Itoge has to work hard because he is often doing the job of the back row at breakdowns, he's an outstanding player and has racked up an immense playing time since before the RWC. I just wish he had better support, Mercer & Willis !!!
My comments particularly about fatigue related purely to this match, if you go through his England appearances though you will see that he has a significant penalty count.
From my perspective, all the relatively inexperienced Irish players stood up against the toughest opponents they could play. Osborne was great from the first game (he debuted on tour btw), Blade kept things going from when he came on, and Frawley the ice man. So the Irish team could say that they were as successful as they could’ve hoped for; series draw, new captain, depth built…
SA also had the likes of Feinberg Mngomezulu, and I’m sure other nations have young talents ready to go.
Wow, only one Bok. Damn! Fair play to the rest, though. Rugby is in a good place right now.
Grant Williams was unreal when he came on for Faf. Did Rassie get that starter pick wrong?
Maybe not. Think Faf adds things to the Springbok engine that no one seems to notice.
However, one guy who was found out yesterday was Handre Pollard. If we have no playmaker in the midfield then all we have is kicks and that is not going to win us games, not against the likes of Ireland or New Zealand.
Losing Willie Le Roux early on must be Pollards recurring nightmare, and it happened yesterday. I understand now why Mgmt was trying desperately to get Manny up to speed, especially with Am not playing 13. Two fantastic games and probably a fair outcome over 160 minutes. We can only dream of what a 3rd game would have given us.
Tim, please can you do some coverage of the England U20's. Front row destroying everything in front of them - Borthwick please take note.Many thanks for your excellent reporting - just love it!
Agreed about Murray, and I feel like Caolin Blade deserves a mention. The fact that it was barely noticeable when he came on speaks to how well he played. No noticeable drop off from my perspective.
No doubt Murray played a blinder and Blade did well, but I'm sticking to my guns... why does the guy who is there or thereabouts every season as the best 9 in the URC keep getting overlooked? If you don't know who I'm talking about, have a wee think.
Top drawer as usual, Tim
South Africa
Who would be your official over the weekend?
There were some good refereeing.
What’s happened to ben earl? He’s been transparent this series and had a bit of a shocker yesterday. Don’t want to write him off but felt as though we need the bulk of Jack Willis to bust the gain line in tight play.
Brilliant at roaring when England get a penalty.
Your selections pretty thorough . . But, I would have given top replacement to Frawley . . ..to do that, to have the confidence, the ba**s to kick two amazing drop goals especially after his miss in the champuons cup final . . . in the back yard of the World champs takes some doing . . .
And having said that Barratt was playing at home . . . At EdenPark an All black fortress . ...
Hey you're not from the northern hemisphere, are ya? Ya wouldn't know it mate. 😅 But that Irish fullback won the game for Ireland. And they made the best try of the weekend, so yeah - it was a green weekend. But what a stadium in SA. Wow.
Itoje he seems to be back
Just pick 15 Tadhg Beirne's & that will do.
Did you hear Kolbe is taking a stap back from rugby to concentrate on the Olympics?
He's going for gold in diving. He's been practicing a lot.
you had me there
Brilliant diver. Deep sea.
Woke up today pissed we don't get a third test match between SA and IRE like seriously, best replacement.... Cool ill text when outside
Ratima at 9 would be my only change, but can't really fault Murray as a pick..he was elite as well
What do you reckon to an international team selection of debutants or youngsters. Lot of young talent out there, who would you choose?
I thought England left something on the field and didnt feel they wanted it enough but just a view from afar. And NZ down but never out they are such a force
Are you mad? Ciaran Frawley who can't even get a start at Leinster single handedly won the game with not one but two long range drop goals.
Good stuff Tim ...
Dad's Army😂
James Botham, Liam is his dad
Too many ads. Can some one reply with the team please
Get your wallet out.
Great picks. Just a thought, if the Ireland game had finished 30 seconds earlier, would the team of the week have been the same.
Co-ask?
Like the ABS would say it’s an 80 minute game..
@@davidwalker2402 absolutely.
I like IFW, but my eyes must be lying to me regarding him being rapid. Now if you were to say Sleightholme and the word rapid together in the same sentence I would heartily agree. When has IFW ever won a clear one-on-one footrace?
Smith < Barrett = Frawley
Got your English blinkers on for those choices Tim😮
Tim does not do blinkers.
Henshaw deserved this👏
Clearly from your choices, which is 100% correct, you can see that SA underperformed this game. They will be back though.
Underperformed or were not allowed to perform?
@@catherinedrury7747 they don't need allowance from anybody..please!
Wouldn’t say they underperformed. They just came up against a team who wanted it more. 50/50 possession and territory, SA had more metres made, more defenders beaten, better tackle success, bullied our scrum, conceded less penalties, 14 lineout wins Vs 8 for Ireland showing they had plenty of attacking platform opps, 8 kickable penalties showing the pressure they were putting us under. On paper they outperformed us in all major aspects of the game. Definitely 2 of the top teams in the world right now
Ox was a giant!
Outhalf has to be between two subs who changed two games Beauden Barrett or Ciarán Frawley
Itoje gave away 3 penalties in space of 5 mins or so in 2nd half giving all blacks 6 points at a time when game was in balance 🤔
Before the SA Ireland game your combined team only had 4 irishmen in it and you said SA by 12..what do you think now
The answer is quite simple ..the performance by SA did not meet that of the Irish...they were magnificence and deserved winners
He's got you there Tim...
Crowley and McCarthy over Itoje and Smith all day long
Hey Tim, I've noticed your videos show a reversed image. Fixable?
He simply needs to flip video horizontally to correct.
Cmoooooon.
Argentina beating France is epic!
Compared to the first Test, I agree. Still the French lacked their usual experienced players.....
Itoje was brilliant for NZ. Won them the game with his complete lack of discipline
I thought that for the first 60 mins he was likely the best player on the pitch . Certainly his strung of penalties in the last 20 were disappointing but he didn't lose England the game . Overall he was bet positive. Without Itoje NZ would have scored a lot more points
Ox
Lomax great aussie player.should be playing for us aussies
Haha..he is indeed. Although his rugby improved by going to NZ. Unfortunately for you guys, his famous father, and his heritage ties to NZ meant his desire to play for the AB’s was too strong.
You forgot De Groot, Tamati Williams and Taylor were all in Aus too.
But theyre kiwis they end up here eventually
Lomax was born in Canberra while his father (NZ rugby league legend) was playing for the Raiders which means his country of birth is Australia but his nationality is NZ, I guess that means Lomax is playing for the correct country 😆
@evilrod5342 he played Aus u20s try again
@@jormundgandr88 OK, while also eligible for AU, Lomax chose to play for NZ who he was also eligible. Lomax doesn't become the player he is now if he stays in AU. As for De Groot, he was born in AU but his family moved back to NZ when he was an infant, and with Williams and Taylor, they were born in Whangarei and Levin.
who underrates jordie barrett?
Can Ireland replace Sexton in the near future ?
Team of The Week -- Ireland Simples
Well Tim if England win Euros tonight you may need to rebook your flight. Legless is appropriate. Off-subject here but not off sentiment.
1. Nche (SA)
2.Lake (Wales)
3.Griffin (Wales)
4. Itoje (England)
5. Ryan (Ireland)
6. Beirne (Ireland)
7. Papali’i (NZ)
8. Savea (NZ)
9. Gordon (AUS)
10. Smith (ENG)
11. Kellaway (AUS)
12. J. Barrett (NZ)
13. Lawrence (Eng)
14. Feyi Waboso (ENG)
15. Osborne (IRE)
Sub - B. Barrett (NZ)
Just an opinion people!
4 English players tells its own tale.
Whatever you’re smoking keep smoking it 😂
lol!
Embarrassing
Itoje was very good but faded last twenty not sure he was top 3
Why do SA, have a bee in their bonnet when it comes to Ireland. Even misquoting what Irish players said after their match in World Cup. Ridiculous tbh.
They have a hornet in their bonnet now.
Seriously, English is not there first language. There is also a cultural difference in how statements are interpreted. An example of this was Ebens interpretation of the Irish squads hard luck and pat on the back statement after we beat them. I would like to be more positive about how the Boks behave after loses.
Oh get over yourself win a quarter final first then we can talk. Doesn't matter how good you are but come crunch time you can't get over the line.
@@noahdaniels7103 thought any game outside WC was meaningless? Take your medicine bro, the Irish outplayed the Boks. Again.
@@noahdaniels7103Back to back 6N’s including a grand slam. Don’t worry we’ll get there yet.
Luke Pearce tried to get James Ryan sin binned instead of Caelan Doris. What's wrong with this guy?
How u think england wins if Barrett doesn't come on ..
That should go to 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪
opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.
I think there's more variety in opinions though...
Think this Egg just watches the highlights - Jordie had his worst game since switching to the mid field.
Do better Egg
The Attack on Malcolm Marx’s knee by Calvin Doris and one of the Irish Locks that resulted in a yellow card and left Malcolm Marx limping was a low point in the Match imho
He didn’t attack his knee intentionally I think somebody is watching a bit too much wildcard rugby. he just tried to get him off the ball admittedly he did crock roll but it wasn’t in the neck like it normally is. What made it look worse was he was joined in the tackle by James Ryan behind him that made it look worse than it was. It’s Caelin Doris btw.
No m8 the low point of the match was watching Kolbe dive and wiggle on the ground like a fish and the rest of the SA players crying for a penno...
I don't think it was intentional. Was a croc-roll and the ref gave the yellow. Marx is obviously very difficult to shift off the ball and when you are desperate you sometimes make bad decisions in the heat of the moment.
What a sore loser, dry your eyes and take the L
@@ciaranbrk Even Ryan coming in his arms are around Marx's waist, wasn't anything wrong with his hit. Doris doesn't fall on his leg either, he falls beside it. Only wrong bit is Doris having his hand on the Marx's thigh, which he should have let go of, but since he was falling down under Ryan you can understand him holding onto something.
Leave Kolbe alone trolls
His own fault for trying to cheat.
No! That was rancid. Make the dive - expect the backlash. This is rugby.
Not sure about naming a player who got a yellow for deliberate dangerous play - which in all honesty should have been a red.
Kak team.
Great coverage as always, you looked to have had an amazing time in SA! I have to admit the English team impressed me, I feel they look like they can only get better. I think there's very little between SA, Ireland, New Zealand and England currently, which is great for the game of rugby and even better for us fans! Being Irish I'm bias but I really was impressed with our resilience and resolve! A little nugget of info as you seemed impressed by Jamie Osborne, he has a younger brother Andrew who is quite the player too! 😉
Awesome team i cant wait for the player power rankings 😁🫡
I knew the Boks were in trouble with Connor Murray on the field. Incredible player in his own right and reads the play for the team matchlessly. Great player!