Dad always said "Use the right tool for the right job". Tackling a large deck with a 5.5" orbital sander is daunting. If it doesn't burn out the sander, your going through a lot of sanding disks. You can rent a professional hardwood floor finishing sanding machine for a half or full day from your big box store or other locations and buy the required sanding belts or disks in various grits. There are several types of drum sanders, rotary sanders and orbital sanders and there is a special edging sander. Maybe save the RIDGID 5.5" for just cleaning up the stairs, the railings, the edges and in the corners.
@@Dumontjon An industrial sander intended for hardwood floors works very well on decks. I've done five decks since my first post. The vibratory style are less aggressive and a finer grit sanding pad will greatly reduce the possibility of surface damage. If the deck is pressure treated lumber, any sanding process will remove a thin layer of the pressure injected chemical protection. Too aggressive of sanding could damage the exposed screw heads if the boards are surface screwed. With a little care, it's a good project for the DIY'er.
@@colettejaques2559 That's a shame. your contractor screwed up. The contractor should have removed no more material than absolutely necessary. No more than a 5 inch orbital hand sander would remove. If he's gone too deep, he's probably compromised the heads of the deck screws and your going to have boards popping. I hope you didn't pay him and you may have justification for legal action against him.
Fab mate... We're heading to get this done for our Australian summer. Great to see you taking time to use the sander. Thanks for the post. Gary and Rose Australia.
Great job Sir! Pay no attention to the comments regarding use this tool or this chemical. Like you said, the ROS is your tool of.choice. Yes it takes more time but if you enjoy refinishing decks, what's the problem then? I have a large pine deck that I stupidly stained with Flood cedar tone that I bought at Lowes and this 'paint' ran so deep into the wood fibers that pressure washing it after I put down stripper still didn't get all the marks out. Then I cleaned it, brightened it, and sanded it with my ROS. Then stained it with Defy cedar tone and it's never looked so good. Whole process took a week but worth it. Stay away from the $20 flood stain on a deck!
Thanks for making the video. Simple and straight to the point. I think I’m going to upgrade my orbital sander to a model similar to yours. The one I have now is battery powered and one-speed only. It’s great for light jobs however not for something like this. Thank again sir
Good video , an estimate of the time , say per square foot of deck would have been very helpful and typically how many disc pad was needed om say 100 square foot.I will be sanding my deck soon and have exactly the same orbital sander so the video was very helpful
I have done hundreds of decks over the years. It goes like this......replace any rotting boards, using a steel braid wire wheel on a light duty deWalt angle grinder on edge, moving side to side across the deck board remove the loose or peeling paint. Pound down any popped nail heads without leaving a scar. Using an 80 grit paper sand off the glaze the high speed angle grinder created and give the wood some tooth. Using a drywall saw probe between boards to remove loose debris. Using a motorized leaf blower blow off all debris. Then cut around the edges, and set to low pressure air sprayer with in-line pole gun to save your back. Roll out the boards length wise. This is assuming you are using an solid oil emulsified deck stain like Superdeck,, by Duckback. Flood is the same thing. Voila. Fast and easy. 12 by 12 deck floor. Prep time an hour, paint time 20 minutes. Come back after a few hours and repeat the painting for best results. Spraying catches the board edges missed by rolling only. The process I follow, makes all these videos look like total overkill. ! Caution * The angle grinder aspect is a practiced art. Lightly gliding over the surface be careful not to dig in and scar the deck surface. Rookies do it everytime !!!!
Web-Dev - It depends on how far gone your deck is. The chemicals and power washing will leave you with lots of splinters, spots of of old material, etc. Sanding is necessary to remove those, and also preps the surface for the new stain.
Been re-surfacing decks for 17 years...I gotta say...save your BACK and KNEES and rent a commercial either drum or orbital sander....you have approx 300-350 square feet just on that level alone which that little palm sander will take you about 20-30 hours ! A commercial sander will easily do it in 2-2.5 hrs !
Should have used synthetic deck boards and save yourself a ton of labour sanding the old wood decking. We do ours every year for the last 12 years, I I really regret not spending an extra 30% on Trex, Eon, etc. Live and learn, I guess. You’re doing a nice job though. All the best my friend. Cheers from Canada.
I use a grinder with a rubber backing sanding disc Then come behind it with the random orbit Way faster and way better The center of the sanding disc is counter sunk So you hold the sanding disk flush with the wood You don't tip it at an angle or it can gouge the wood. But you have to keep it moving you can't stop in one place or that will gouge the wood too. It goes 10 times faster than this guy It does leave little scratches that's why I do random orbit after that is also faster than this guy is going. The deck looks brand new when finished
I have to paint a deck, it's really dirty and it needs to be power washed. To get the right paint, how do i know if the wood is cedar or treated wood? Thanks.
garrett edmund around 450 Aud I have a few if them as I get the same results as I would get using my festool 150mm orbital which costs over 1k..... Its a great tool - I then customized mine by changing the pad to a 9 hole pattern for better dust extraction which makes a big difference on performance - conversion pads are around 50 aud.... About to spend the while if today/tomorrow with all these units sanding cladding..... Fun times :) but hey it keeps the beer fridge full and roof over head
Shouldnt we be sanding following the grain.... from one end of a board to the other end... I am curious if jumping from one board to the other will hurt it.
hello great job on doing your deck.I have a new deck that needs to be sanded and I was wondering if you end up with any sandpaper marks from using the orbital sander?we would like to stain our deck clear so was just wondering if you or anybody would know if there were any marks
Very helpful! I had a deck disaster I'm fixing. The Cabot opaque stain was the wrong color and the workers put it on all the deck pickets. Unfortunately I had an appointment and didn't get back until it was done. So I'm used the deck stripper to take it off and have been using a Black and Decker Mouse sander to get it off the deck pickets. The problem is the Mouse won't fit in between the pickets so I can't get those sanded. Is there any electric tool I could use? I looked at some detail sanders that would do it but they were extremely heavy and it would be less work to hand sand than to use that heavy sander. I'm a small, elderly woman. Thanks!
Got a cedar deck 4 years old, never stained or sealed, I use a deck wash each year to keep it fresh. My question is after I clean it and it's still wet the wood looks great, when it drys it goes back to a grey colour again. Anyway to keep that colour showing once its dry?
Nope....... that is what oxidization will do. Everybody loves new and natural but it's a temporary illusion. Best thing is to go buy some good quality semi-transparent stain like Sikkens natural cedar. Mix the crap out of it before using. Use a 4 inch brush to catch the edges and lay out a nice coat. The following year do it again, and once again the 3rd year. After that every two or 3 years. It's all about doing the regular re-coating and building up coating rather than letting water get under it. This is my prescription for home owners. Commercially we use tools better suited for production.
how many hours did you estimate that for your bidding process?? Just curious cause that seemed like it would have been a day to a day and a half just sanding!! Great work and vids!! keep em coming
Good Job.....thanks for posting. Someone else asked about time. How long did it take you to sand 10 feet of one board? Just trying to get an idea of how much time I should budget for this. Thanks again. JLaR
RaRa C Pressure washing doesn’t always work good on badly stained wood. I used one, last year, on my old deck and it barely put a dent in the stains despite me taking my time.
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@@JS-rp7qb look at the video ... it isn't even a clean surface ... if you want dirt shadows behind your stain/sealer have at it , it ain't my problem if you screw up your project .
I pressure washed my cedar deck and I wish I would have toned down on it. I’m still going to sand it now as some of the stain is still on there and the “fuzzies” caused by the deck cleaner. I’ll probably do a 60 then 80 grit when I sand it. I’ll use a deck brightener and then RINSE it off. Let it dry and then stain.
@@sunrat fuzzies are caused by too much pressure on the pressure washer and/or the wrong PW nozzel . ya gotta be smarter than the tool you're working with .....
BOOTYMONSTER check again. It’s also caused by the oxidation of the cleaning products. Yea, I went a little too rough with the pressure washer. Check out “deck stain help “ and they will explain the fuzzies.
Such a great video for those of us that have never done this before. Thanks!
Dad always said "Use the right tool for the right job". Tackling a large deck with a 5.5" orbital sander is daunting. If it doesn't burn out the sander, your going through a lot of sanding disks. You can rent a professional hardwood floor finishing sanding machine for a half or full day from your big box store or other locations and buy the required sanding belts or disks in various grits. There are several types of drum sanders, rotary sanders and orbital sanders and there is a special edging sander. Maybe save the RIDGID 5.5" for just cleaning up the stairs, the railings, the edges and in the corners.
Using anything other than a 5inch orbital, you risk ruining the deck.
Those large sanders you speak of, are for hardwood floors.
@@Dumontjon An industrial sander intended for hardwood floors works very well on decks. I've done five decks since my first post. The vibratory style are less aggressive and a finer grit sanding pad will greatly reduce the possibility of surface damage. If the deck is pressure treated lumber, any sanding process will remove a thin layer of the pressure injected chemical protection. Too aggressive of sanding could damage the exposed screw heads if the boards are surface screwed. With a little care, it's a good project for the DIY'er.
@@chrisgraham2904 I had a contractor use a professional sander for floors on my Cedar deck...it's thin and compromised now
@@colettejaques2559 That's a shame. your contractor screwed up. The contractor should have removed no more material than absolutely necessary. No more than a 5 inch orbital hand sander would remove.
If he's gone too deep, he's probably compromised the heads of the deck screws and your going to have boards popping. I hope you didn't pay him and you may have justification for legal action against him.
Thank you from Upstate New York.
Fab mate... We're heading to get this done for our Australian summer. Great to see you taking time to use the sander.
Thanks for the post.
Gary and Rose
Australia.
Great job Sir! Pay no attention to the comments regarding use this tool or this chemical. Like you said, the ROS is your tool of.choice. Yes it takes more time but if you enjoy refinishing decks, what's the problem then? I have a large pine deck that I stupidly stained with Flood cedar tone that I bought at Lowes and this 'paint' ran so deep into the wood fibers that pressure washing it after I put down stripper still didn't get all the marks out. Then I cleaned it, brightened it, and sanded it with my ROS. Then stained it with Defy cedar tone and it's never looked so good. Whole process took a week but worth it. Stay away from the $20 flood stain on a deck!
Thanks for making the video. Simple and straight to the point. I think I’m going to upgrade my orbital sander to a model similar to yours. The one I have now is battery powered and one-speed only. It’s great for light jobs however not for something like this. Thank again sir
Lots of work but you did a fantastic job. Nice work.
Great video - thanks very much for making it.
About to start mine in the next day or two…… been raining here every other day the last two weeks
THAT is how u get 'er done! Lazy people woulda used chemicals and whatnot to strip it. Amazing work, sir!
You are fabulous! Thanks for this video!
Good video , an estimate of the time , say per square foot of deck would have been very helpful and typically how many disc pad was needed om say 100 square foot.I will be sanding my deck soon and have exactly the same orbital sander so the video was very helpful
I have done hundreds of decks over the years. It goes like this......replace any rotting boards, using a steel braid wire wheel on a light duty deWalt angle grinder on edge, moving side to side across the deck board remove the loose or peeling paint. Pound down any popped nail heads without leaving a scar. Using an 80 grit paper sand off the glaze the high speed angle grinder created and give the wood some tooth. Using a drywall saw probe between boards to remove loose debris. Using a motorized leaf blower blow off all debris. Then cut around the edges, and set to low pressure air sprayer with in-line pole gun to save your back. Roll out the boards length wise. This is assuming you are using an solid oil emulsified deck stain like Superdeck,, by Duckback. Flood is the same thing. Voila. Fast and easy. 12 by 12 deck floor. Prep time an hour, paint time 20 minutes. Come back after a few hours and repeat the painting for best results. Spraying catches the board edges missed by rolling only. The process I follow, makes all these videos look like total overkill. !
Caution * The angle grinder aspect is a practiced art. Lightly gliding over the surface be careful not to dig in and scar the deck surface. Rookies do it everytime !!!!
Archie F HALLELUJAH!!!!
Good, except I'm not sure about 2 coats. 'Best' results' may refer to looks, not longevity. What do you think about wet sanding?
I'm about to start a similar job but I'm going to rent a floor sander. Orbital good for edging and inaccessible spots.
Web-Dev - It depends on how far gone your deck is. The chemicals and power washing will leave you with lots of splinters, spots of of old material, etc. Sanding is necessary to remove those, and also preps the surface for the new stain.
Taking the autobahn toward arthritis in the hands. Nice.
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Been re-surfacing decks for 17 years...I gotta say...save your BACK and KNEES and rent a commercial either drum or orbital sander....you have approx 300-350 square feet just on that level alone which that little palm sander will take you about 20-30 hours ! A commercial sander will easily do it in 2-2.5 hrs !
You have an interesting accent. Thought you were Irish then checked and you're in Canada.
Thank you for your time in making this video; great info!
Great job. I also, would like to know how long this too? Thanks.
Nice job
Holy crap, it would take me all summer just to sand my deck.
Those are great lil sanders man, I only use makita anymore but I have two of those orange sanders srill and they are good
Should have used synthetic deck boards and save yourself a ton of labour sanding the old wood decking. We do ours every year for the last 12 years, I I really regret not spending an extra 30% on Trex, Eon, etc. Live and learn, I guess. You’re doing a nice job though. All the best my friend. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks for the video! Great vid
I was able to restore a 280 sq ft pine deck to like new in 3 hours with a porter cable restorer
GREAT machine
Using an orbital sander is daunting. A belt sander would be better on a deck that size, but anything bigger a drum sander would be ideal.
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I use a grinder with a rubber backing sanding disc Then come behind it with the random orbit Way faster and way better The center of the sanding disc is counter sunk So you hold the sanding disk flush with the wood You don't tip it at an angle or it can gouge the wood. But you have to keep it moving you can't stop in one place or that will gouge the wood too. It goes 10 times faster than this guy It does leave little scratches that's why I do random orbit after that is also faster than this guy is going. The deck looks brand new when finished
I have to paint a deck, it's really dirty and it needs to be power washed. To get the right paint, how do i know if the wood is cedar or treated wood? Thanks.
This tool is very good
Nice Information; gonna do my Deck this Summer.......
Buy yourself a Bosch gex 150 Turbo - its a random orbital but 150 mm wide and it has a ripping setting... you could do that whole deck in a hour....
+Ben Jarvie ......i like that idea. What's the cost for one?
garrett edmund around 450 Aud I have a few if them as I get the same results as I would get using my festool 150mm orbital which costs over 1k..... Its a great tool - I then customized mine by changing the pad to a 9 hole pattern for better dust extraction which makes a big difference on performance - conversion pads are around 50 aud.... About to spend the while if today/tomorrow with all these units sanding cladding..... Fun times :) but hey it keeps the beer fridge full and roof over head
1Derful Power Wash Services it’s about 300$
150mm is 6". OP is using 5.5". That's about 10% improvement. Not that much
Shouldnt we be sanding following the grain.... from one end of a board to the other end... I am curious if jumping from one board to the other will hurt it.
hello great job on doing your deck.I have a new deck that needs to be sanded and I was wondering if you end up with any sandpaper marks from using the orbital sander?we would like to stain our deck clear so was just wondering if you or anybody would know if there were any marks
I power wash first then sand .
Billy Smith if you power wash it first then you don't need to sand the whole board. Right?
depends on wood ,etc..
good job.
I think 80-100 grit might be better. 60 sounds too rough.
If the panels had paint vs stain, would u still start off with 60 grit?
Yes
I use a porter Cable Restorer. Three sanding sleeves lasted for 300 sq ft
Very helpful! I had a deck disaster I'm fixing. The Cabot opaque stain was the wrong color and the workers put it on all the deck pickets. Unfortunately I had an appointment and didn't get back until it was done. So I'm used the deck stripper to take it off and have been using a Black and Decker Mouse sander to get it off the deck pickets. The problem is the Mouse won't fit in between the pickets so I can't get those sanded. Is there any electric tool I could use? I looked at some detail sanders that would do it but they were extremely heavy and it would be less work to hand sand than to use that heavy sander. I'm a small, elderly woman. Thanks!
Got a cedar deck 4 years old, never stained or sealed, I use a deck wash each year to keep it fresh. My question is after I clean it and it's still wet the wood looks great, when it drys it goes back to a grey colour again. Anyway to keep that colour showing once its dry?
Nope....... that is what oxidization will do. Everybody loves new and natural but it's a temporary illusion.
Best thing is to go buy some good quality semi-transparent stain like Sikkens natural cedar. Mix the crap out of it before using. Use a 4 inch brush to catch the edges and lay out a nice coat. The following year do it again, and once again the 3rd year. After that every two or 3 years. It's all about doing the regular re-coating and building up coating rather than letting water get under it. This is my prescription for home owners. Commercially we use tools better suited for production.
how many hours did you estimate that for your bidding process?? Just curious cause that seemed like it would have been a day to a day and a half just sanding!! Great work and vids!! keep em coming
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Can you give us an idea of how long it took you and how big your deck is? In short, I'm hoping for a "x time per sq foot" estimate ;) Thanks!
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Good Job.....thanks for posting. Someone else asked about time. How long did it take you to sand 10 feet of one board? Just trying to get an idea of how much time I should budget for this. Thanks again. JLaR
+Johnny LaRue It will take about 4 days per 10ft board doing it this way if you work 13 hrs per day. Good Luck!
nice job . slow work.. but nice
oops i commented as soon as you began sanding.
No knee pads?
so, you use 60 grit and then stain? or do you go higher and then stain?
Power wash will chew into soft wood creating divest which Will hold water if you must use low power washer
Video starts at 4:00
What is the amperage of the sander you used? Would a 3.3 amp sander be strong enough?
Thankyou for the video, but a job like this requires ear protection!!
why didn't you just pressure wash it? Do you not own one or is there another reason
RaRa C Pressure washing doesn’t always work good on badly stained wood. I used one, last year, on my old deck and it barely put a dent in the stains despite me taking my time.
To restain you really have to sand. Open up the grain.
Isn't this the guy on 90 day Fiance?
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I don't think that is Cedar!!! I'm almost sure.
From a Woodfinisher with 65 years experience and never been out of the trade
Looks like pine
Way way to much work! Go rent a floor sander!
that will take for ever . you need to rent a proper sander
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I hope you get paid hourly, I would have used cleaner and a power washer... then sanded. more power to you. looks great though.
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rent a heavy-duty belt sander from HD and get this done in an hour instead of a week by hand...
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wrong tool for the job ..... pressure wash , give a week to dry (no rain or snow) then reseal .
Wrong. Get a much better finish and stain absorption on a sanded surface
@@JS-rp7qb look at the video ... it isn't even a clean surface ... if you want dirt shadows behind your stain/sealer have at it , it ain't my problem if you screw up your project .
I pressure washed my cedar deck and I wish I would have toned down on it. I’m still going to sand it now as some of the stain is still on there and the “fuzzies” caused by the deck cleaner. I’ll probably do a 60 then 80 grit when I sand it. I’ll use a deck brightener and then RINSE it off. Let it dry and then stain.
@@sunrat fuzzies are caused by too much pressure on the pressure washer and/or the wrong PW nozzel . ya gotta be smarter than the tool you're working with .....
BOOTYMONSTER check again. It’s also caused by the oxidation of the cleaning products. Yea, I went a little too rough with the pressure washer. Check out “deck stain help “ and they will explain the fuzzies.
why do old youtubers talk so much?
If you don't like people talking, stay away. It's pretty simple😅
About to start mine in the next day or two…… been raining here every other day the last two weeks