Quadra Trac 1 vs Quadra Trac 2 vs Quadra Drive
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- We take three Jeep Grand Cherokees through the same section of Mengal pass in Death Valley. Differences between Jeep’s four-wheel-drive systems are quite apparent.
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And along comes the WJ, pulling a trailer just to keep it fair...
I've got a wk2 qt2. I still have my wj for back up when I need a real man's 4wd.
I had WJ with factory turbo diesel engine for the European market. Currently I have an XJ, but now that I'm looking at this, I miss the WJ a lot!
Hahaha hahaha
I miss my WJ overland ! That was a good one to me.
WJ? I totally missed that toward the end lmao! Hold my beer. 2" budget boost.
Finally, someone doing a comparison that includes the QT1, I've been wanting to see how it really compares in a real world situation.
Exactly what I was thinking everyone only shows top-of-the-line systems never just the basic ones some of us can't afford top-of-the-line or maybe don't want top-of-the-line cuz we don't go off road too much so thanks
@@vladvalenwood6803 True. Bought mine without knowing the differences so mine is for sale now
@dentondunn4346 which one do you have? The awd qt1
@@bigbadjon_12 yes
@@bigbadjon_12 it's rust free, new brakes and front driveshaft, 4.0l Quadra Trac 1 system. Daily driver, after 5000 miles it's still full on oil
The Trac 1 is good if you are just driving in snow and rain, not doing heavy off roading, it is essentially an AWD system.
Got QT1 on my 2019 Altitude and its been hard looking for any videos with that system in use while off-roading. CLEARLY it shows that it can get the job done. I mean im not planning on going hardcore, but it eases my mind knowing i can do some moderate off-roading and start planning on going on some areas in the high deserts, and Moab later this year. Thank you for showing this drive system in action. I really appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Get out there and enjoy your QT1 equipped rig! It’s plenty capable for lots of great trails.
Same system on my Cherokee that's 10yrs older than yours. You'd think they'd do away with it cause it sucks off-road. Good for driving on snow and that's it
Anything serious you are going to need 4L , but up to moderate QD1 will get you through decent Mudd and pretty deep holes. ✌️
WJ crawls through with a damn trailer haha
It's nice to know that my compass can tackle some hardcore as well as everyday runs to the office. Many of you probably aren't aware but the compass has all-wheel drive and four-wheel drive. I guess it's a Jeep thing
I have a 2018 quadra trac 1 and a 2002 WJ with quadra drive . My 2018 is bone stock ,tires and all I don't put it through what I would do to the WJ but stock tires and all I pushed a Subaru ( they suck) up a steep hill in a foot of snow with absolutely no problem, my WJ has 4 inches of lift and 30 inch tires that goes off road on road wherever I want it to go no problem . In my opinion the WJ is the better off road choice
Agree. I miss our WJ. It was a beast.
Looks like the Laredo had a lift and oversize tires. Nice to see A QT1 and QT2 together. The 2 systems have the same brake lock diffs AFAIK so they shouldn't be that different mechanically. you don't get the LSD till you have QD on the WK2's .The low range and better control over the traction control does make a difference though . They all made it though. Great Video!
Gotta love it, I just got a 2010 with the qd2 5.7v8. What mods have you guys done to your rigs? Skid plates, rock rails, etc?
Quadra-drive II and pulling a trailer and he drives up it like it's a paved bumpy road. QD-II FOR THE WIN!!!
It's actually QuadraDrive, not QuadraDrive II (available in the WK, and slightly neutered for the WK2). Completely different system.
Its nor QD2 ITS QD1
Awesome stuff!
This is the best video by far comparing the 4x4 systems in the Grand Cherokee . Thank you for that
if you ask people, 99 % will tell you -- QD is better, than QT, not every situation,
some times QT is more better , than QD
I can't see how. LSDs are always going to be better than open diffs.
The ELSD's in my 08 overland never engaged as smoothly as the vari loks in my 03 overland, however they kick in much quicker, both great systems for sure and they do adapt to different types of off roaders
Beginning of vid I was like my wj do this easy Whit Walmart tire. Me seeing wj roll up take note boyz
I like Quadra drive in 4-low. W/ ARB lockers front and rear and IRO Rocklink 6" on 35s. Worked good until I shaped in a 242hd. Now it works amazing. Go WJ.
If you have arb lockers, there is no point in starting with quadra drive 1 or 2, as the only difference between quadra drive and quadra track is the differentials, which you replace when you install an arb locker...
@@kirksachs I think you're mistaken. The center diff is essentially locked with QD2 in 4Lo, open in QT1 (which does not have 4Lo)...it sucks, I have one lol
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You would be correct except I didn't say anything about quadra track 1. I was just talking about quadra drive 1 and 2 in response to Wade.
@@GreghouseVanBouten my 99 4.0 is Quadra Trac 1 system. I'm either getting rid of it for a Quadra Drive or installing a different transfer case. Idk which one I want yet, haven't researched enough yet to know the difference too much.
@@dentondunn4346 I briefly looked into swapping QT for QD on my WK...it looked more complicated than I could handle. I ended up installing a lunchbox locker on the rear diff. That increased its capability, but it still struggled during climbs when the front end lost traction. As soon as the front wheels slip, no torque went to the rear axle and I would get bogged up front if I stayed on the throttle too long.
Ultimately, I sold the Jeep and got an Xterra with a true four-wheel-drive drivetrain. It's night & day how much more capable this unit is, even with open diffs.
I don't think I'd be 4 wheeling with a trailer, but neat video
That was point of the video, Quadra Drive II😉
@@richardrichard5409 It's actually QuadraDrive. QuadraDrive II was available in the next generation, the WK.
My 99 WJ has the 4.0 with the Quadra Trac system with the NP147 transfer case. From what I understand it’s the same transfer case that goes in the 06 Compass. It’s a beast, it will climb like a Billy Goat
hello here wj looks better but there is a front layout difference. wj solid axle others free-standing supers
Would a qt1 have problems in soft sand like at the OBX or ft. Fisher
Excellent video comparison, we just bought a 2021 with qt1, since we’re not off reading in it who cares. Nice to see the comparison though.
The Quadra Trac 1 will be sufficient for 90 percent + of the people out there, you only need the more advanced systems if you do real serious off roading.
The WJ is not quadra drive II, It's quadra drive I. It's still a great system, the best limited slip setup around imo, but it cannot fully lock like the rear differential in the wk2 quadra drive II.
Thanks for the info! I thought his badge said Quadra Drive II on it But it’s not my vehicle. You are correct and I was mistaken.
Hold on here.
A...look at shifter to see if its QD1 or QD2. It was offered.
QD2 will have rotor pumps in both axles AND transfer case AND will become true 4wd. No brake action hoopla....just power to wheels. HTH 😎
Quadra drive II was never offered in the wj. First year of QDII was 2005.
The georotor pump type limited slip was what QDI used. QDII uses clutch packs in the differential/s.
You are thinking of quadra TRACK II that was available in the WJ and uses brakes fir traction control.
Ironically WK 1 (2005 to 2010) with Quadra Drive 2 can lock front and rear diffs not just the rear. Jeep actually downgraded a lot with WK2
@@kirksachs8010
You’re correct but the vari lok axles use a clutch pack also.
The gerotor pump coupler engages them.
Finally I’ve been scared to take my 2020 QT1 off road because everyone tells me it’s basically an AWD system not good off road. I’d really like hear someone do a review on sand (beach) I’d like to go fishing and drive on the beach
QT1 has been pretty capable off road. Sometimes you need a little momentum to get over obstacles but I think you should be fine on the beach as long as you air down your tires. My buddy usually runs about 18-20 psi for sand and he’s been fine. He also carries max trax just in case. Cheers!
WJ's rock..😁
1:10 -- left front tire is aired-down WAY more than in the Quadra Trac 1 vehicle.
It seems, the older ...the better!
quadra drive 2 comes on the new ones as well. Trailhawk comes with it.
@@greeenlife.partners2016 The WJ actually has QuadraDrive, a completely different system than the QD II that was available in the next generations WK, and WK2 (and they are different between the WK and WK2.
Which direction were you going at Mengal's?
We were headed South from Geologist Cabin toward Barker Ranch
@@kurtspurgin4942 Thanks, last time I went thru there the rock pile @ 0:14 wasn't there.
@@SFPhilo The rock pile was there but we built it up a little more to make sure we didn’t have any damage
I like the independent suspension taking the hill. I'll take my v8 2004 vw tourareg up with u.
They'll outgo a Jeep
y el selectrac ????
I got a 17 limited with the QTII. Its plenty capable for 95% of any off roading the average jeep buyer is going to do. Is it a wrangler? Absolutly not but it wheels better then my 97 Expedition did (which surprised me) and handles shitty (deep snow, ice etc) roads better too
What trail is this?
This is Mengel Pass in Death Valley
AwD is not 4 wheel drive , JEEP does not make AWD , full time 4wheel drive is the jeep constantly in 4 H , JEEP was the first to develop it in 1963 on our ancestor the Wagoner, also was on our grandfather the 1975 Cherokee Chief. ✌🦆
qd2 in the WK1 is king tho
Do I have qd2? It’s a 07 jgc laredo v6 3.7 awd
@@lstruggy Probably not. QDII was usually only available with the v8. But it could be a special order. you probably have QTII (open diffs).
@@rockymountboy I rock the QDII with an 07 CRD!! Such a beast!
@@sunnytheskoolie674 Sorry, yeah. Not many CRDs here in the States, though they are out there. Almost bought a used one.
just missing qd2
Nice comparison, but cameraman's slurp is disgusting
This gum chewing though 🤣
Wj 👍👍👍👍👍👍
WJ has decent articulation due to different suspension and a lift.
Bad comparison.
Acá en chile no existen esas variables, al menos que haya un error… el WK2 trae quadratrac 2… menos el overland que trae quadradrive 2… además el WK2 no trae el viejo 3.7, si no el 3.6 pentastar( y motor hemi 5.7) y el último que aparece trae quadratrac 1 o quiadradrive 1…. Si alguien me puede corregir lo leo… un saludo 🎉
Vivo en USA y mi 2001 Laredo WJ viene con SelecTrac, muy buena por cierto para malas carreteras.
Still looking for the hoarse in the video chewing. Sounds like he needs water
Porque comparar el cuadratrack uno con el cuadratrack 2 si el cuadratrack 1 no posee una relación de baja velocidad
Creo que la comparacion en si es para que las personas tengan una mejor idea de lo que tienen o de lo que realmente necesitan. Por ejemplo yo acaba de comprar una Quadrac 1 y queria saber de lo que es capaz realmente. Saludos!
@@bryancapretti1461 El quadra trac 1 no posee una realacion de salida baja (4 L); la diferencia entre la quadra trac II y el drive es que esta ultima posee diferenciales LSD.
So what is better qt2 or qd2
QD2
QD1 THERE WAS NO WJ WITH QD2
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WJ has solid axles and lift, unfair comparison, and it´s not quadra drive II
The guy said it did not have a lift though
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The camera guy chewing gum...
With his mouth open and heavy breathing. 🤮
It’s because he doesn’t have a wife like mine that reminds me I am breathing heavy, chewing loud, yadda yadda. 😅
That's a great video... good example of the 4x4 system differences. I'd be curious to see the difference between a pre 2011 QD2 (like in the vid) and a 2012 or later QD2. As I'm sure you know jeep stopped using the ELSD diffs for the front axle after 2011 instead opting for a BTC (BRAKE TRACTION CONTROL) system. Alot of people (myself included) were disappointed as we think the older "fully lockable" system is superior. I have a 2014 5.7 summit with QD2 and have spent alot of time playing around in different modes on different surfaces. You can get the system to provide power to all 4 wheels at once but you have to drive very aggressively and it will not stay "locked" for long... a few seconds usually. Here is a quick video of mine in the snow... you can see one front wheel spinning out alot before it transfers power.ua-cam.com/video/L2V8WTI0sBA/v-deo.html
Very reliable and hardy SUV!! He has a large margin of safety and resource, I have a trailhawk
@@user-ii5dx8wh5f The WJ in the vid actually has QuadraDrive, not QuadraDrive II. QuadraDrive II wasn't available until the next generation, the WK, and it was actually better than the QDII system in the WK2.
QuadraDrive combined the QuadraTrac II Transfer Case with VariLock limited slip differentials. Clutch packs engaged with a gerotor pump. No traction control. QuadraDrive II has differnt Transfer case & diffs. The diffs are LSD and will eventually lock if in 4Lo. All computer controlled.
If you gotta stack rocks turn around
We weren’t about to turn around and fail to complete our incredible 4 day trip through Death Valley because we needed to stack some rocks to get our trailer over a five foot stretch of road. Feel free to make that call on your trips, but we have had many amazing adventures in our rigs that required a little road repair. Cheers!
The WJ was more elevated
Actually, the WJ has no lift and has the shortest ground clearance of the 3 vehicles. If you listen closely you can hear that the WJ scraped its skid plates on a rock (the only vehicle of the three that did. The grey WK2 has the highest ground clearance
@@kurtspurgin4942 what size wheels and tires
@@The219Beast stock
@@camaroboi13 Stock wheels are 17" and tires are 29".
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so the quadra drive 2 is the best for off road then???????????
Debatable. The WJ actually has QuadraDrive, not QuadraDrive II. QDII came out with the next generation, the WK. With QuadraDrive, you lock the Transfer Case when you go in to 4Lo, and the diffs are VariLock Limited Slip (a hydraulic gerotor pump squeezes the clutch pack together so both wheels spin at close to the same speed). They get close to locking, but don't actually lock. You can have torque to all 4 wheels at once, though. The QD II system is computer controlled, aided by the ABS system. When you go into 4Lo to lock front & rear, the computer can actually lock the front & rear diffs as needed. It's the only system I know of that can lock LSDs. Lockers are usually only available on open diffs. The QDII system in the WK2, however, has an open diff in the front that does not lock, and simply uses traction control (braking) for traction up front.
Some prefer QD to QDII. I haven't used both, so don't have an opinion.
@@rockymountboy am I only person in the world with Quadra Trac system in my 99 WJ with the 4.0l. I never had seen a video with Quadra Trac system. Mine doesn't have 4hi or 4low. Is it rare or something
@@dentondunn4346 Quite rare, but more than just one. :-)
@@rockymountboy are they any good? How they compared to transfer case with the gear selector
@@rockymountboy my 99 WJ has Quadra Trac 1. Doesn't have 4low or 4low so your uninforned too