Thanks for this video. I have just started looking into getting security cameras and this was very helpful. I am a home user and do not use quick connect so I think the synology solution may be exactly what I am looking for.
Going back and forth between the camera manufacturer settings and the synology surveillance station settings has been super annoying in the past, so this is a nice addition.
I think the DC power connector is ok, as you even said in the video, if the network room goes down, or the PoE switch goes down, and the DC power is useful for the edge recording. Also, the DC power adapters are easy to come by, and all the details are given in the Synology literature.
Great video as usual. The cameras are excluded from requiring license saving the usual extra fee of a license if the current NAS camera license count is exceeded. Seeing how they perform high contrast, nighttime performance Etc. Would be nice.
I was a long time Synology Surveillance Station user up until I moved houses. Unfortunately, installing Ethernet cable in my new house is a lot more challenging than my previous house, so I haven't had a chance to drop Ethernet cables in the ideal spots where cameras would go. These cameras look great. I only wish Synology also had cameras that are more suitable for indoor use, such as a smaller, more discreet form factor, maybe even colored black, that doesn't call a lot of attention to itself. The TC500/BC500 are nice, but might make guests feel uncomfortable given their size and form factor.
@@danielwilder7835 not for security purposes. Yes the cameras themselves are capable of much faster frames, however when you are trying to weigh the balance of storing security footage vs how much the camera captures, 15fps is what most modern security cameras are using.
A lot of cameras include the DC Barrel and no Power Adaptor. Dahua, HikVision, Reolink to name a few have the DC connector cable and do nto include power supplies. I just tuck them up into the celing, with a little shrink wrap around them to stop anything getting into them. I don't really think it is a big deal havign the cable. It's like IO connections some cameras have, if not used, just insulate and tuck them up. It's really nice to see Synology having some first party camera's available, but I think Dahua and similar are still going to give better options, and they have high compatibility with Surveillance Station.
I agree. I have used amcrest cameras for 5 yrs with Surveillance Station starting with the $55.00 IP5M-T1179EW model and up. Compared to the $200.00+ ip cameras vs a $200 cellphone or older phone using it for the camera, I dont see why you cant easily setup a cell phone camera that allows you to zoom is much better either optically or digitally tp zoom in than any ip camera i have seen.
turret style cameras are not good for vandalism or tampering as they are very easy to mess with; what you are thinking of are vandal-dome cameras which are designed to be tamper proof. Vandel-dome look very similar to turret style cameras with the exception they are completely enclosed in a clear bubble that protects the camera. Turret style are excellent choices for places that are hard to reach, need to not be an eye sore like highly visible areas or "blend in", and are easy to position. bullet style are just like turret style application wise except for looking good as they can be an eye score and are very visible (which can be a plus in some applications), but are generally cheaper than turret style.
By this I meant impact vandalism (throwing a bottle at it) If someone can get to this camera physically then neither one is going to hold up much at all.
Though the turret model is IP67 rated, I really don't like that is not a dome camera. I bet that putting that camera outside in a freezing rain will result in ice crippling its ability to pan and tilt. Also, I see that it has a fixed focal length lens, so NO ZOOM. For me, the lack of a protective dome and zooming is a deal breaker. Lastly, does the firmware support SNMP, as I see no mention of that in the specs? By the way, the Synology Surveillance Station is a highly professional application that is one of the best that I have worked with.
I like the idea of having being able to use my NAS for something I need, but how can i justify the cost when an all in one package comes with NVR, drive, 4 to 8 cameras for only a few hundred dollars?
I use Synology and Unifi. But Unifi still it’s easier. The camera password it’s automatically changed when you adopt. Also family always asks for advice for network/Wi-Fi improvement. Easy. UDMP. Now just buy the cameras. Hard to compete. For business I see the use for Syno. But. It’ll have to improve. Unifi has improved the pace on feature. But lacking in AI, it’s starting to annoy me. Anyway since I live in Brazil Unifi have the online Store here, our sales tax it’s to 5 in the world. Unifi prices it’s a bargain here compare to other stuff. So synology gear it’s no no. Much expensive compared to US, double the price. Unifi in general it’s only 20%. And some products are even cheaper like G4 Pro.
For home users who are looking to save money, and only need 1/2 cameras then these dont make a ton of sense. You can save a bunch of money and your NAS already comes with 2 licenses for cameras, by just going with a cheaper model and tinkering till it is all setup right for you
It's a one time purchase without restrictions on camera model. You can even take the licenses over to a newer model. It's quite fair pricing to be honest
The problem with the full color night vision cameras is they require some ambient light, or have to have a white light on on the camera cameras with IR illuminators require zero ambient light to get night vision
The full color ones can have really good pictures by taking long exposures and using really high sensitivity sensors. But they suffer when there is fast motion (gets blurry) or when you don't have street lights.
Hey mr @spacerex dude, could you stop wearing silk shirts and have hairdue like you live with a hairdressor locked in your closet. it makes me nervous. could you dress down in the next vid?
Hi Will, this was an excellent video and appreciate you putting it out there. I’m looking on setting up a six camera system. Probably a combination of the BS500 and the TC500. Do you have any recommendations on a POE switch for this application? As always, thanks for what you do.
Thanks for this video. I have just started looking into getting security cameras and this was very helpful. I am a home user and do not use quick connect so I think the synology solution may be exactly what I am looking for.
Going back and forth between the camera manufacturer settings and the synology surveillance station settings has been super annoying in the past, so this is a nice addition.
I think the DC power connector is ok, as you even said in the video, if the network room goes down, or the PoE switch goes down, and the DC power is useful for the edge recording. Also, the DC power adapters are easy to come by, and all the details are given in the Synology literature.
I've been using the old Wyze V2 cameras with excellent results. Record right to the nas, sound, ir, 1080p. Everytning
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how to set it up?
Great video as usual. The cameras are excluded from requiring license saving the usual extra fee of a license if the current NAS camera license count is exceeded. Seeing how they perform high contrast, nighttime performance Etc. Would be nice.
I was a long time Synology Surveillance Station user up until I moved houses. Unfortunately, installing Ethernet cable in my new house is a lot more challenging than my previous house, so I haven't had a chance to drop Ethernet cables in the ideal spots where cameras would go. These cameras look great. I only wish Synology also had cameras that are more suitable for indoor use, such as a smaller, more discreet form factor, maybe even colored black, that doesn't call a lot of attention to itself. The TC500/BC500 are nice, but might make guests feel uncomfortable given their size and form factor.
@SpaceRex: Very interesting video!!
Do you know if I can use the cameras with the Synology DS918+?
Thanks in advance for an answer.
15fps is more industry standard for security. Depending on how fast the subject moves across the view area, 10 frames could potentially miss them.
cameras have move on a bit. 15fps is low when you compare it to a lot of cameras
@@danielwilder7835 not for security purposes. Yes the cameras themselves are capable of much faster frames, however when you are trying to weigh the balance of storing security footage vs how much the camera captures, 15fps is what most modern security cameras are using.
You can’t be a serious UA-camr without RGB/LED lights in the background💁🏼
A lot of cameras include the DC Barrel and no Power Adaptor. Dahua, HikVision, Reolink to name a few have the DC connector cable and do nto include power supplies. I just tuck them up into the celing, with a little shrink wrap around them to stop anything getting into them. I don't really think it is a big deal havign the cable. It's like IO connections some cameras have, if not used, just insulate and tuck them up.
It's really nice to see Synology having some first party camera's available, but I think Dahua and similar are still going to give better options, and they have high compatibility with Surveillance Station.
Why is it so much cheaper to buy a amcrest and a license. They need to lower the price alot to make me even consider this.
I agree. I have used amcrest cameras for 5 yrs with Surveillance Station starting with the $55.00 IP5M-T1179EW model and up. Compared to the $200.00+ ip cameras vs a $200 cellphone or older phone using it for the camera, I dont see why you cant easily setup a cell phone camera that allows you to zoom is much better either optically or digitally tp zoom in than any ip camera i have seen.
That price though.
I would love an option for not including the license because I already have licenses for cameras I am looking at replacing.
Yeah I completely agree with you. It would be somewhat nice to just have a license option or some way to make these more appealing to return users
turret style cameras are not good for vandalism or tampering as they are very easy to mess with; what you are thinking of are vandal-dome cameras which are designed to be tamper proof. Vandel-dome look very similar to turret style cameras with the exception they are completely enclosed in a clear bubble that protects the camera. Turret style are excellent choices for places that are hard to reach, need to not be an eye sore like highly visible areas or "blend in", and are easy to position. bullet style are just like turret style application wise except for looking good as they can be an eye score and are very visible (which can be a plus in some applications), but are generally cheaper than turret style.
By this I meant impact vandalism (throwing a bottle at it)
If someone can get to this camera physically then neither one is going to hold up much at all.
Though the turret model is IP67 rated, I really don't like that is not a dome camera. I bet that putting that camera outside in a freezing rain will result in ice crippling its ability to pan and tilt. Also, I see that it has a fixed focal length lens, so NO ZOOM. For me, the lack of a protective dome and zooming is a deal breaker. Lastly, does the firmware support SNMP, as I see no mention of that in the specs?
By the way, the Synology Surveillance Station is a highly professional application that is one of the best that I have worked with.
Mine died 12 hours after I plugged it in.
I like the idea of having being able to use my NAS for something I need, but how can i justify the cost when an all in one package comes with NVR, drive, 4 to 8 cameras for only a few hundred dollars?
I use Synology and Unifi. But Unifi still it’s easier. The camera password it’s automatically changed when you adopt.
Also family always asks for advice for network/Wi-Fi improvement. Easy. UDMP. Now just buy the cameras. Hard to compete.
For business I see the use for Syno. But. It’ll have to improve.
Unifi has improved the pace on feature. But lacking in AI, it’s starting to annoy me.
Anyway since I live in Brazil Unifi have the online Store here, our sales tax it’s to 5 in the world. Unifi prices it’s a bargain here compare to other stuff.
So synology gear it’s no no. Much expensive compared to US, double the price. Unifi in general it’s only 20%. And some products are even cheaper like G4 Pro.
Would you recommend these for the home, or think they are best for a business set up?
For home users who are looking to save money, and only need 1/2 cameras then these dont make a ton of sense. You can save a bunch of money and your NAS already comes with 2 licenses for cameras, by just going with a cheaper model and tinkering till it is all setup right for you
@@SpaceRexWill Cool, thats what I thought, thanks!
Licenses?? Naw it's a deal breaker. I'd be looking at at least 8 cameras. I'm considering Swann surveillance systems now - or some other.
It's a one time purchase without restrictions on camera model. You can even take the licenses over to a newer model. It's quite fair pricing to be honest
Are these sold with white exterior colors only? Black would be more inconspicuous on my house. Might not be wife-approved based on color alone.
Dbrand 😉
I would love to have seen colour for night time rather than black and white. My cameras cost less than these and they provide full colour at night.
The problem with the full color night vision cameras is they require some ambient light, or have to have a white light on on the camera
cameras with IR illuminators require zero ambient light to get night vision
@@SpaceRexWill hmm mine seem to work nicely off the street lamps.
The full color ones can have really good pictures by taking long exposures and using really high sensitivity sensors. But they suffer when there is fast motion (gets blurry) or when you don't have street lights.
@@SpaceRexWill thanks for the explanation.
Ridiculous pricing but it's clearly not targeting consumer market.
Hey mr @spacerex dude, could you stop wearing silk shirts and have hairdue like you live with a hairdressor locked in your closet. it makes me nervous. could you dress down in the next vid?
Hi Will, this was an excellent video and appreciate you putting it out there.
I’m looking on setting up a six camera system. Probably a combination of the BS500 and the TC500.
Do you have any recommendations on a POE switch for this application?
As always, thanks for what you do.