Ace Bailey has the best tools in this class with the 7 foot wingspan, run & jump athleticism, and jumper, but he needs to spend way more time studying film than on-court training.
I think it was said before that between Dillon Harper, Cooper Flagg, and Ace, Bailey if all three hit their ceiling, Ace Bailey goes first in the draft then Dylan Harper, and last Cooper Flagg so far that’s holding true.
Flagg is still my #1 but the difference between him and Harper going 1.1 is all about fit/need in my mind. I pray to god whatever team drafts him doesn't just hand him the keys immediately because he needs to really fine tune his offense. Ideally he would go to a team with an established young offensive focal-point that he can play off of like ho Franz played off of Paolo before he really exploded. Teams like the Pelicans, Hornets, Sixers, and possibly the Raptors make the most sense for me out of the teams that are up there in the lottery but he should be avoiding the Wizards, Blazers, and Jazz at all costs.
The co-host said that he thinks Cooper flag will reach 90% of his ceiling is 90% of his ceiling an All-Star a number one option on a NBA team a franchise player that you build around
@@ronwilly14 Hell yeah! I mentioned that in a previous episode and people thought I was crazy. They must not have seen Detroit Pistons point 4, Blake Griffin!
You fools counting Harper’s Afro to get to 6’6” lmao. He’s eye to eye with his older brother who measured a generous (also had fro) 6’5.5” in sneakers lmao. Just google “Ron and Dylan Harper”. There’s a photo of him in the middle of his older brother and Dad and he’s slightly shorter than them. Dylan isn’t taller than Carrington for instance (minus the fro) and he measured 6’3.75”. All last season people called Carrington 6’6” just like they’re calling Harper 6’6”. When he’s measured a generous 6’4” at the combine I want an public acknowledgment that you were wrong
@@robitaillecopeland1996 you’re right. I should probably go by your unofficial measurements based on a picture instead of going by what he’s listed at. My fault big dog.
@@mikejones9906 yes, Until all these talking heads stop listing him as 6'6" lmao. It plays a big part in why they entertain putting him over Flagg. No team would consider taking a 6'3" scoring PG over Flagg...but 6'6"?!!!
I think a GM is going to have a tough time at 1 in this draft. This is starting to look more like the Paolo and Chet draft or even the Scottie Barnes draft
Exactly...That's all I've been saying. There's no clear cut No. 1 pick in my opinion. Some people are so biased towards one player they can't appreciate the others.
@@scottwickett1273 exactly- they're starting to nitpick everything. They couldn't do it to Caitlyn, they can't do it to Jokic...but here's the next No.1- let's try and knock him down w the hate.
Jakucionis is a top 3- amazing talent- he almost singlehandedly beat Tennessee. Coop's game translates better to the League, but he is still the no brainer #1 pick- he's a 5 tool guy and will get better by season's end. He's probably a bit worn out from his sked at his age- #1, undefeated high school team, and played w the Pros in the Olympics. Now then- Harper can score- but he's a chucker, a ball hog- he can't shoot the 3, can't pass the rock, and can't play D. If Coop shot the ball 30-35x a game like Harper, he'd be averaging more points than him. Ace bailey is a turnover machine- he is Stromile Swift light.
@@mikejones9906 I don’t think he’s better than Dylan. I’m high on him, but I’m also going to be fair in mentioning both of their flaws. It is possible to like all 3 prospects and not have to take strong stances on one and pick at the others
@@mikejones9906 not sure why you’re not taking in account Cooper is younger and his jump shot can improve. You’ve pretty much already assumed a 17 year old has reached his peak by continuously mentioning he can’t shoot.
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard I’m not saying Cooper shouldn’t be a top 5 pick but it’s a huge risk taking him number one, knowing you’re going to have to entirely revamp his shooting mechanics. When have you seen a players jumper change depending on where he’s shooting from??
Nah. He clearly said "His jumpshot's not great"...don't know what else you want him to say about it. He simply broke down exactly how he's scoring with a subpar jumper. Cooper's jumper is far more developed than Ace's left hand.
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard He does not have any glaring weaknesses or major flaws. Just needs to get bigger and stronger. As you can see he’s working on his selection which is a huge positive sign that he has the humility to be coached and you also have to take in consideration that he knows how to score without wasting dribbles, that’s rarely seen at his age.
@@mikejones9906I like Ace Bailey, but name one current primary option in the NBA that is both bad at passing and bad at driving to the rim. If he doesn’t massively improve on those two things, he could only end up being a good role player. Somewhat of an in between of MPJ and Jabari Smith Jr, which could still be worthy of a top 6 pick, but not number 1
I love the excuses for Flagg cuz he have a bad game & oh he's only 17 .. he has no bag fr & can't shoot the 3 watch all that shxt get shut down in the NBA because of those 2 main things, I think he'll be a good rebounder tho "maybe" but hey time will tell .. Harper is more NBA star potential out of all of them
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Ace Bailey has the best tools in this class with the 7 foot wingspan, run & jump athleticism, and jumper, but he needs to spend way more time studying film than on-court training.
@@chriskeesee7508 Only time I’ve ever agreed with you.
jakucionis at 8 is crazy😂😂
exactly- he's top 3-5
I think it was said before that between Dillon Harper, Cooper Flagg, and Ace, Bailey if all three hit their ceiling, Ace Bailey goes first in the draft then Dylan Harper, and last Cooper Flagg so far that’s holding true.
@@therockneverstops8261 I’m taking Tre over Flagg and Harper.
@@mikejones9906 I like Tre but not over Harper
@@mikejones9906I’m really concerned about flaggs ability to score in the next level.
@ Offensively, Flagg will have to model his game after Demar Derozan because he does have a mid range jumper
@ I never questioned the mid range..
Lief reminds me of my brother hanging the jersey on a hanger on the wall. I always thought it was so tacky.
Flagg is still my #1 but the difference between him and Harper going 1.1 is all about fit/need in my mind. I pray to god whatever team drafts him doesn't just hand him the keys immediately because he needs to really fine tune his offense. Ideally he would go to a team with an established young offensive focal-point that he can play off of like ho Franz played off of Paolo before he really exploded. Teams like the Pelicans, Hornets, Sixers, and possibly the Raptors make the most sense for me out of the teams that are up there in the lottery but he should be avoiding the Wizards, Blazers, and Jazz at all costs.
Pistons (Cade) also a good fit.
The co-host said that he thinks Cooper flag will reach 90% of his ceiling is 90% of his ceiling an All-Star a number one option on a NBA team a franchise player that you build around
Cooper Flagg will be Aaron Gordon-type of role player on a winning team. Worthy of #1, 🤷🏾♂️ he should be a longterm starter on a good team.
Cooper Flagg more like Tyler Hansbrough Duke need play at 4 spot
@@josephcawley78 Jesus
More athletic brian scalbrine
@@AImusicforus919 Is this a bit?
If CMB aint on here, then its null ans void
Cooper Flagg offensive ceiling is Blake Griffin but as a hybrid 3/4. Never will be a true go to #1 option not enough skill
@@ronwilly14 Hell yeah! I mentioned that in a previous episode and people thought I was crazy. They must not have seen Detroit Pistons point 4, Blake Griffin!
@@ronwilly14 not even the same body type
Leif with some deep cuts there.
IM TAKING HARPER OR ACE BAILEY #1 BECAUSE TO ME THERE GAMES TRANSLATE BETTER TO THE NBA GAME I BELIEVE
@@JohnCramer-yz2rn fair point. I respect all opinions. None of us know if we’re going to be right or wrong.
@@JohnCramer-yz2rn Ace and Tre top two picks.
@@mikejones9906 You're high
Does cooper Flagg not translate to the nba I see him as a bam adebayo type of player ( who showed a lot less flashes of offense in college)
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard You shouldn't respect all opinions, just by definition: some of them suck and are stupid.
You fools counting Harper’s Afro to get to 6’6” lmao. He’s eye to eye with his older brother who measured a generous (also had fro) 6’5.5” in sneakers lmao. Just google “Ron and Dylan Harper”. There’s a photo of him in the middle of his older brother and Dad and he’s slightly shorter than them. Dylan isn’t taller than Carrington for instance (minus the fro) and he measured 6’3.75”. All last season people called Carrington 6’6” just like they’re calling Harper 6’6”. When he’s measured a generous 6’4” at the combine I want an public acknowledgment that you were wrong
@@robitaillecopeland1996 you’re right. I should probably go by your unofficial measurements based on a picture instead of going by what he’s listed at. My fault big dog.
@@robitaillecopeland1996 what’s good with you? You gonna talk about this on every video?
Bro relax 😂 it’s just a podcast chill
@@pimpnamedslickback7780 right..Negative Ned stays on my neck (pause) over Harper's height.
@@mikejones9906 yes, Until all these talking heads stop listing him as 6'6" lmao. It plays a big part in why they entertain putting him over Flagg. No team would consider taking a 6'3" scoring PG over Flagg...but 6'6"?!!!
How is Nolan Traore even sniffing the lottery for anyone anymore? At the very least Ben Saraf is just a better player on both ends of the court.
I don’t even know if he should be a 1st rounder anymore
exactly- enough w these skinny french fries
@@Collindunks exactly, and even if he does I think it would benefit him if he was stashed in europe for at least 1 seasons like Yam Madar.
I think a GM is going to have a tough time at 1 in this draft. This is starting to look more like the Paolo and Chet draft or even the Scottie Barnes draft
Exactly...That's all I've been saying. There's no clear cut No. 1 pick in my opinion. Some people are so biased towards one player they can't appreciate the others.
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard Is there a team context in which you could envision a team taking someone other than Flagg at 1?
White boy glaze over Cooper Flagg
No, that's not what's happening here.
@@scottwickett1273 exactly- they're starting to nitpick everything. They couldn't do it to Caitlyn, they can't do it to Jokic...but here's the next No.1- let's try and knock him down w the hate.
Jakucionis is a top 3- amazing talent- he almost singlehandedly beat Tennessee. Coop's game translates better to the League, but he is still the no brainer #1 pick- he's a 5 tool guy and will get better by season's end. He's probably a bit worn out from his sked at his age- #1, undefeated high school team, and played w the Pros in the Olympics. Now then- Harper can score- but he's a chucker, a ball hog- he can't shoot the 3, can't pass the rock, and can't play D. If Coop shot the ball 30-35x a game like Harper, he'd be averaging more points than him. Ace bailey is a turnover machine- he is Stromile Swift light.
Ace is nothing like Stromile Swift.
I believe subconsciously, Rafael Barlowe thinks Ace Bailey is the number one pick.
@@mikejones9906 I don’t think he’s better than Dylan. I’m high on him, but I’m also going to be fair in mentioning both of their flaws. It is possible to like all 3 prospects and not have to take strong stances on one and pick at the others
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard We have to remember drafting is based on projection and ceiling.
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard I’m taking Tre over Flagg and Harper.
@@mikejones9906 not sure why you’re not taking in account Cooper is younger and his jump shot can improve. You’ve pretty much already assumed a 17 year old has reached his peak by continuously mentioning he can’t shoot.
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard I’m not saying Cooper shouldn’t be a top 5 pick but it’s a huge risk taking him number one, knowing you’re going to have to entirely revamp his shooting mechanics. When have you seen a players jumper change depending on where he’s shooting from??
Impressive mental gymnastics used by Leif to justify Cooper’s lack of jumper.
Nah. He clearly said "His jumpshot's not great"...don't know what else you want him to say about it. He simply broke down exactly how he's scoring with a subpar jumper.
Cooper's jumper is far more developed than Ace's left hand.
@ Just want to see the excuses tomorrow after another terrible shooting night from the perimeter.
@@mikejones9906 you’re quick to ALWAYS point out Cooper’s flaw. But NEVER Ace’s flaws.
@@LockedOnNBABigBoard He does not have any glaring weaknesses or major flaws. Just needs to get bigger and stronger. As you can see he’s working on his selection which is a huge positive sign that he has the humility to be coached and you also have to take in consideration that he knows how to score without wasting dribbles, that’s rarely seen at his age.
@@mikejones9906I like Ace Bailey, but name one current primary option in the NBA that is both bad at passing and bad at driving to the rim. If he doesn’t massively improve on those two things, he could only end up being a good role player. Somewhat of an in between of MPJ and Jabari Smith Jr, which could still be worthy of a top 6 pick, but not number 1
I love the excuses for Flagg cuz he have a bad game & oh he's only 17 .. he has no bag fr & can't shoot the 3 watch all that shxt get shut down in the NBA because of those 2 main things, I think he'll be a good rebounder tho "maybe" but hey time will tell .. Harper is more NBA star potential out of all of them
@@givingyousportsfrommyview He does have a bag, he has everything except for shooting.
😭😭
@@givingyousportsfrommyview You should stop giving people sports from your view.
Yes, Ace Bailey is this years Brandon Miller. A bunch of delusional criticisms and nitpicking.
Nothing like Brandon miller stop it
BRANDON MILLER FIRST COLLEGE GAME HE WAS 20 YEARS ..
OLD. Ace is only 18
@@JohnCramer-yz2rn Exactly
@@3PTBall Nothing. People just say anything.
@JohnCramer-yz2rn so what? There is a lot more to analyzing players then pointing age differences.