Rogan Tools Scout (Spade Tool)- Built For Abuse!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The Rogan Tools Scout (Spade Tool) is a rugged tool designed to do all the stuff you probably shouldn't do with your knife but sometimes do anyway. You can dig, baton, hammer, and generally beat the heck out of the Rogan Scout and save your knife for "knife stuff". All Rogan Tools are 100% Made in the USA.
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I'll use Dundee's quote here: "That's not a knife........."
No. It is not. Nor is it intended to be.
Well Bryan just so you know I was the one who gave you the recommendation for Rogan USA Tools. I have the EOD and the Scout as you have in your review. I use this tool to dig a Dakota Fire Pit, baton wood, scrap fat wood and tree bark for tinder. It will strike a ferro rod quite well as you did in your review. I never use my knife to baton, my knife is too valuable to damage. I am purchasing another Scout Tool for my car survival kit. I store these in a tool roll in my BOB and never feel the weight. Nice review and thanks so much for reaching out to Rogan USA. The best part Bryan is your awesome and you read your comments. Not many do that. Again Thanks! Bob T
If the Marines (or some) are using this for EOD stuff, then it's probably meant for metal. Like a prybar, and more rough stuff like you said for digging.
Things you wouldn't really use a knife for. I think it's a cool tool.
@@hbrhodes1s Dear Mr. Rhodes, The EOD tool has a chisel on the square end and a non sharp edge on the blade like long side. This tool is my main tool. It is like a Timex from the 60's it takes a beating and will take more beatings. The Scout tool is more for a camp task use but will not pry like the EOD tool. I will not lie but they are heavy due to thickness but I use these tools to save my knife. Both tools will baton through hard oak with knots. I only baton for tinder and wood to make feather sticks to get a camp fire going. Boy these both will throw sparks on a ferro rod. I am not a sale or rep for Rogan. Tools are made in the USA by a military vet.
@@Bob-lt5hf Dear Robert. I like the way you addressed the other fellas, so I thought I would try.
I saw the Rogan tool site and I thought the Foreman model would be excellent for batoning. Hopefully I will get it soon and try it out for myself. I also hope it feels right in the hand for accomplishing some of the tasks you made the Scout useful for, so I can just have one tool. Curious about your thoughts. Bryan. P.S. Can you tell me the weight on the EOD? I do know that it is longer by 1.75" than the Foreman. And the weight of the Scout, too, if you please. Thank you.
@@bdmenne Dear Bryan, I am not sure of the weight but I would put it in at about 1lb. I do know that carbon steel weighs in around .3 lbs per cubic inch. The EOD comes in at around 2.3 cubic inches so I would put it at 3/4 of a pound and add 1/4 pound for cord wrap. I do not see the Scout or the Knife Shape tool on the web site. If you contact Mike Rogan he would be more than willing to help you.
I must own about 8 Rogan Tools maybe more. I’m with LAPD and these tools go with me on the job in my pack or car. Great for emergencies, like breaking windows, popping padlocks, window frames, etc. Strong, never bends. Impressed me so much I edc the mini version of his EOD tool. Comes in handy if you work with your hands or make your own repairs. One tool in each of my kits and earthquake kit. I even bought one of ROGAN’S T-shirts so I’m a fan of his tool.
Hard pass, that is solution looking for a problem. I do not see the point of it.
Agreed, seems logically, unlogicle🤣🤙
That's a big chunk of the problem. It doesn't have a point or anything resembling an edge and a decent trowel will have a bit of an edge. My Japanese Garden knife is vastly sharper. Some Abos living in Oz. started buying a general purpose foraging tool made from about two feet of rebar. It has a point on one end and the other is hammered flat and sharpened. That gives a half moon edge. I'd rather have that than this. Heck, I'd rather had a large flat headed screw driver than this. Each to their own.
I don't get the point of carrying something that is effectively a bad knife. I don't even like the blade edge it'll always want to twist.
I'd rather carry a good knife for finework and an older knife with a good edge that I can bash about
As always thanks for the review.
A product dislike is still a positive outcome of your review.
Thanks
It is not intended to be a knife or do knife stuff. It is really a knife shaped pry bar/ digging tool. I just wanted to see what else it could do
The Foreman and EOD have a wedge/chisel tip that would be far better for splitting wood and also its longer therefore better for batoning. This Scout would only hand kindling splitting. So might as well get the 7.5 in or 9.25 inch Rogan.
Exactly what you said. I would use it for all of that.
What's a knife that doesn't cut?
I would rather use my Bk2 for all chopping, batoning and splitting tasks.
For digging, I would rather carve a stick as a digging stake than spend $35 on a blunt tool!
Thanks for the review on this Bryan. I ended up getting two of these after seeing your review. You always give good reviews. Really appreciate the time and effort you put into your reviews. I've been a long time subscriber. Take care and thanks again.
This could be used like a kubaton for non lethal self defense. Years ago Gerber sold a chisel with a belt sheath and lanyard that was coated with chromium carbide for knife sharpening, coarse on the sides and fine on the flats, which I have used for 50 years to get excellent edges on all of my knives. I have taken it camping and used it to open cans. I don’t baton (I just choose smaller sticks and limbs) but it would have worked for that. Like this tool it was also designed for prying and marketed as a tool you could use for tasks you didn’t want to use your knife for. The Rogan tools can also be used to dig grubs out of dead trees and stumps if you are starving. Bulbs and plants out of the ground for food.
I could see a few uses for the tool. Batoning, striking a ferro rod, tie it to a stick and digging with it, prying into logs or dead standing for grubs and punk wood. Really the possibilities are endless. I don't see why so many negative comments. It could really be a useful tool in certain situations for certain people.
There are always negative comments. Some people seem to default to a negative viewpoint.
I made a tool for that purpose out of a piece of old leaf spring once. It was about five times that big and turned out to look more like a gladius but it was a great tool.
Ive got it ,its a great paper weight !!!
Thank you Brian. Mike Rogan is awesome! A great guy who created a great tool! Thanks for the review.
You bet!
It looks like it’s a great specific-purpose built tool. For me, I’m not sure it’s weight/utility ratio would make it worth carrying when camping. I could see having it in my toolbox, though; I bet it could be handy for certain things.
I agree
Brian, appreciate your honest reviews. Looks like it might be a great choice for someone for something. I cannot honestly say it’s for me however. I think I will stick to my BK2 pry bar or my WWII entrenching tool. Both will cut and dig as this tool does and more. Thanks again. Keep em coming please. Dollar Don
I'd like to say that I believe, a knife has more than one purpose. My two camp knives are, a Gerber survival knife, and a Schrade SCHF37, both knives are about 3+ years old. I do all that knife stuff to them, and I've never had a problem. Thank you for your videos.
Thanks for the work reporting on this. Interesting. I do need camp shovel, trenching tool.
Cold steel sells better shovels.
Hi Bryan. I worked with EOD in the AZ desert and I can see how the Rogan tool could be used. Quite often an EOD technician would come across a buried piece of ordnance. Back then, some 40 to 45 years ago, he would use his Kabar to dig around the buried object. The Kabar they used were pretty helfty and well made. However, after a period of time, of course the constant use as a digging tool would dull the blade and the tech would take out a diamond sharpener to "refresh" the blade. The Kabar was used in many other tasks such as cutting detonation cord, reconfiguring or cutting into C4 plus other required tasks associated with their craft. This Rogan tool could be used like the Japanese hori hori to carefully remove the ordnance, sometimes an unexploded ordnance, from the soil. I use a hori hori on my bushcraft trips as it is a magnificent tool for digging out roots such as wild onion and other edibles. Even tree roots that somehow seem to be a nuisance under your tent can be removed. The tool has a sharp edge on one side and a serrated edge on the other; the tip is somewhat sharp and can be honed to shave hairs. The blade is a convex shape and makes a nice digging tool which replaced my Deuce of Spades; safer to use the hori hori vs the Deuce. Mine came with a nice sheath, a heavy ballistic nylon.
Medford makes the exact tool you describe
Maybe put in collectables drawer next to my pet rock. Thanks always.
You could use it to turn you pet rock into pet gravel.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose lol!
looks worthless to me .
It is very popular with metal detecting folks. And great for digging small holes in tough ground.
Brian, a knife is a tool. it should do just about anything. If that includes batoning, so be it! I have on me at all times my Izula II. Does 90% of what I need.
As my "beat-the-crap-out-of-a-steel-door-tool", I got a Becker BK3. Fits the definition of a "Sharpened Pry bar". Cheers.
Instead of compensating batoning capabilities with that I accept that my knifes are tools!
It's a great idea as I would have no qualms bashing the crap out of it. No matter how tough a knife is, digging that hole can n most likely will damage it. Let's be real, when nature calls, I want to get that hole dug quickly and spades are just too bulky to be carried easily. I think this is a great option. Thanks for the heads up. Many Blessings my friend.
I agree. Thanks. It seems like a lot of people missed the part about this not being a knife. Maybe I did not do a good enough job of emphasizing that.
5-24-2020..Sunday..7:30 p.m.,I left this video to go online to ROGAN...there are separate knives and lengths..the one this video is small,but worth it.There 2 other sizes.
Furthermore a knife has to be somewhat sharp for transport in mailing.You have to sharpen it when you receive it.
*Batoning*..when your hands are cold in the winter ,and you have to have that extra push on wood.Thats what batoning is also for,don't knock it if you've never had to deal with it.
Just saying and expounding.
If this had a edge it would be worth buying. My bk Becker 2 can do all of this
Maybe so. But it is $50 more and, after you dig a few holes it will be much less useful as a knife. That is the “point” of this tool.
Great video. I don't know how much I would use it in the woods but as a edc scraper, pry bar, type multi tool I can think of tons of ways I would use this around the house or work. Just might get one.
I own about 10 Rogan tools and they all are amazing. They are meant to be chisels, I keep finding more and more uses for Rogan tools, from the garden to engine work. If you’re looking for a knife this isn’t it.
Exactly. Which is why this wasn’t a “Sharp Saturday” video
Conceptually good idea but maybe trying to cover too much (digging, hammering, chopping, prying, low weight, cutting without edge and point??) while sacrificing comfort. Maybe for a very specific user, it is still a great universal tool. I still admire the designer / manufacturer taking on the tough challenge...
Maybe good for public safety... no edge, no point...ain’t gonna hurt anyone
I have the Japanese garden tool. Mine is called a Big Dig knife. I very much prefer it to what you are showing.
Okay I like the idea and thinking behind this Tool. The change I would make would be to get rid of the Chisel Grind and put a double sided edge an Ax on it. That Chisel Grind will cause it to try to twist as you Baton with it while a double sided edge wouldn't twist.
A froe does just fine with a chisel edge, of course it has a different kind of handle set up
Hey Bryan I recently bought one of these so that I can use it for multiple purposes such as batoning, scraping, and digging. I frequently camp in areas where no shovel will dig a cat hole because of all the rocks. I am hoping that this tool will get the job done as carrying dynamite in my pack seems too risky. The Spade Tool is a cool American made tool.
A cool idea and a good deal for the money. I'd like to see an option for a steel upgrade in something just as indestructible but still edge holding without brittleness like (well heat treated) cpm 3v or a higher carbon steel. a 3v 5mm+ true full tang that only has a primitive edge (secondary bevel with no primary one) would basically be the ultimate compact stuff wrecker, sharpened pry bar, zombie dispatcher, etc. and still work for a lot of knife stuff.
You can get a “pig sticker” from Old Hickory to use like this as well. Nowhere near as thick and beefy, but for $6 it opens up some options.
Likely often used as a pocket carry tool to open wood framed shipping crates. If you take a look at some of the larger military surplus sellers who sell vehicles and all you will see many of the same crates the services use to ship supplies. That would make a lot of sense to me. Myself? Think I'd rather rely on the TOPS Operator Seven here.
A medium carbon steel is better for its toughness. For what this tool is. It would be best. 1055 carbon steel would be a good example of a medium carbon steel. Its a little short . It will do when space is crucial .
Can they sharpen it for you, before they send it to you ?
Even if it is a single sided bevel...
I was doubtful as to this tool's usefulness at first, but I realized that I've known people who carry a knife and almost never use it to cut or slice. Lol! This would be perfect for them.
Or for people who do carry and use a knife for cutting and slicing and want to preserve it's ability to do so.
Outstanding and thorough review as always Brain. 😁🔪There is a niche market for this.. I feel a THICK piece like that of titanium would be more appealing to backpackers, and a good hardened serviceable edge on the steel would be selling points!! Just business advice😁🤙
Hi Bryan, I'm really enjoying your videos. Have you ever done a review on the Tactical Shovels on offer on various sites? I own one and I'd like to see you review them and hear your opinions.
Interesting concept
Good work out tool, own this and forget the gym
Very interesting. It would be great for spreading peanut butter and for general poking around in the garden. Maybe as a training knife for knife fighting.
Lol, training knife it would be great for
The typical beater knife. Everyone needs one at one time or another. Pretty cool!
Where is it made? LOL
Except it is not really a knife. It is a knife shaped tool
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As a former Marine and an assistant Scoutmaster I think it would be great for both. I’ve seen what they will do with a knife. Still an interesting tool. I’ve seen things like it at the County Comm website as an EOD knife. But it has more of an edge and a flat tip.
Not to insult or offend the designer, but I think he can do much better tools. We believe in him. 🤔
He had several other designs
I don't know Brian . Eod I can see .but it's a lightweight option for another tool
Thanks
I think a heavier denser baton would sort that Rogan Tools ability to split.
Probably so
She's Quite Stout, But Not Well Balanced. Love The Price ! Thanks, Bryan. Have A Swell Weekend. ATB T God Bless
I gotta say for the price you hit a i gotta buy tool. I like it an that its made in USA is another plus what the hell goes right in the back of the jeep
Looks like a great tool.
Hey Thank you for this information and Great Video 😎🤙
I don't think that tool was made to be used as a knife which you are testing it for and I worked in the Air Force on cargo aircraft where we needed a special tool to cut chord on parachutes for cargo pallets and the knife they issued me had a regular blade on it and another one which could lock and unlock the mechanism on the palette lock and it worked perfectly and I still have that knife and the sheath I made to carry it in.
I just wanted to be as thorough as possible. It is certainly not designed to be used as a knife for cutting tasks. It is intended to split wood, dig, hammer and pry.
Are you shooting on a new camera and mic?? The quality is outstanding!
what is it designed for? what is its purpose?
Everything I said in the video. ;-)
Are those Hawg Holsters Safariland QLS compatible?
I don’t know what that is. Email (or call) John at HAWG and ask him.
No sale, but good test.
Thanks
Heh, I think your fence is about to go 10-7... er... QRT. Look at vinyl. It will outlive you.
If that thing had a 30 degree chiseldgrind on one side it might be used for someting... otherwise it just looks like my first attempt at knifemaking =)
But it is not a knife
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Fair enough, but it ain't exactly a shovel either. 30 degree chiselgrind is my take on the possible improvements on that one. Otherwise, there are more efective tools at digging than this one here i.e. japanese garden knives. I don't want to insult the creator of the tool, I just don't get the idea behind it.
looks good , but it just a big piece of steel. schrade 17 is thicker and about the same price. stay safe
I think it's cool!
I just ordered mine 😁✌
Steve i was not too impressed with that knife. I use a cheap m tech rough duty knife . It is so cheap but so strong . It can take a real good edge. I use it to boton, dig, chop, slash it a beast. I carry two fix blades. One for carveing or food prep . The beast for everything else. If it wears out It so cheap I just get a new one lol.
It is mt-096 Btw looked it up I have had it for a few years now . I paid 12 dollers for it back in the day.
This is NOT a knife.
New camera? Damn the picture looks good in this video
As a matter of fact. Yes
@@SurvivalOnPurpose what ever your doing it looks great! Wow
It is a digging tool !
It needs a chiseled front and a cleavers Edge. That'll fix it!
That is a really cool tool. It would be a good option to carry just to save some wear and tear on whatever knife someone is carrying. The more task you can do with the Scout Tool the longer the edge on your knife would last, so less time spent on maintaining your edge.
Don’t get the point of that. Did not seem to do anything well. Dig a hole use a stick.
Since its not good as a throwing knife, if you hit someone with that much weighted steel it would still hurt.
if it doesn't cut, or at least balance, I don't need it :D
Reminds me of the EOD breacher bar from countycomm.com
Thanks for the link; interesting items there...
Im seeing a kunai ..👍
Better purpose-built tools are made for each of the "tests" you performed. That is one poor tool.
BK2
hard pass on this thing
Pek işe yarar tarafı yok bence
I'd rather ruin a few good knives than have to mess this I not sure what you call tool. Again, the solution looking for its problem.
At least you wouldn’t have to worry about cutting yourself.
It looks to be a tool in search for a niche. It doesn't really do anything well. Other items seem do do a better job at everything. But, its made in the USA. Hmmmmmmmm
I'd rather use a big boy knife that can handle the abuse.
Always good to see your videos but this one is not for me. For someone else it may be great.
Kabar becker bk3.
An old file would scrape better
Probably. But, to be fair, is not really designed for that. I was just seeing what it would and wouldn’t do
@@SurvivalOnPurpose a mini wonder bar w/an edge...kinda
Tops tracker digger.
Never been a fan of a dull knife especially one that comes that way new.
This is not a knife
@@SurvivalOnPurpose it has a handle,blade,sheath,it even has a one sided grind like very cheap Chinese parring knife.
A person can do better with a Golden corral steak knife for
feathering slicing, piercing.
This knife has it’s place only if it can hold an edge
It is NOT a knife. It is a tool that happens to be shaped like a knife. Mostly for digging and prying.
Thats not a knife mate! The maker forgot to remove everything that doesnt look like a knife! Wouldnt own it. Chunk of steel wrapped in paracord, not impressed whatsoever. Whats it really for?
No, as I said, it is NOT a knife. It is a digging, prying, splitting, wherever a shaped bar of steel you can beat the heck out of would come in handy tool.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I would say it's none of those either
junk
I believe I could do better with a rock !
I don’t think you can dig as well with a rock.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose depends on the rock
I think they send you incomplete knife . Look like a knife but not act as a knife
It is NOT a knife Yogesh. It is a different tool
Meh.
No offense to Joe...
But that is a crap blade.
Get a BK2 instead.
It is not a blade. It is a tool to use so your blade stays sharp and slicey.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose yeah.
I can better tools at Harbor Freight that that does the job better. Cheaper too.
Don't see the point of carrying something like that sorry
That is a pos