@@seiryumidnite9566 Ryan had a blood clot disorder he speaks about it on some of his videos. The last one he got went to his lung and it ended up being fatal. I know about it because it was all over the recovery community. And it was on his Facebook page. There was even a Go Fund Me to help out his wife and children. If you go to his Facebook page (there should be a link under the description in this video but if not just look up his name its a picture of him in a suit with no tie). Scroll down to October2018 (someone was reposting some of his stuff for awhile so don't let that throw you) once you get to October of 2018 you will see it for yourself
@@seiryumidnite9566 Yes, I agree. Its awful. I feel horrible for his wife and kids. He sure did help a lot of people. There are a lot of clean people out here thanks to him and his videos. But it went beyond his videos he gave his email address and use to give away his phone number. He was one of a kind. And definitely one of the good ones. Its been 3 years and he is still missed!
For me the battle with paws ended when i realized what was going on. Then it made me angry and I started to treat it like I was in withdrawal. I got up got moving got out in the sun. Being in the sun was a game changer for me thankfully for my loving wife who watched me withdrawal more times than she deserved on like my 3rd day she begged me to take a walk with her. Knowing i may not walk through hell for myself I would absolutely do it for her. Once I did noticed i started thinking i can do this and she did it the next day and the next and so on. Before I knew it i was doing it on my own and I started to feel great.
Clean since December 10th 2015 had to move from Vegas to Colorado for a few years to do so and leave all my so called "friends" at the time behind but i beat addiction i won my family's and my girlfriends trust back i moved away with a suitcase full of dirty clothes to my name and now im back in Vegas with my girl and our daughter with a good job and our own house. Recovery is possible for anyone thats wants better for themselves..And we all derserve a happy healthy life. Thanks for responding to my comment after all these years..it made my day to post this comment having beat addiction. Much love to all.
@@Unionstar_ Where in Colorado? I think I'm gonna start my battle here soon and been youtubing advice but I always wonder about the people who post that they've been clean and wonder how they're doing, did you do it cold turkey?
@daniel lopez withdrawals lasted for about two weeks first week was pure hell if im being honest cold sweats, zero sleep sucked but in my opinion the restless legs was the worst my knees ached so bad..but dont let that scare you you will be rewarded with having your brain and health back when you make it threw cause yes your brain levels out and like i was saying oneday its all over and your you again. Its not easy bro and its not fun but if your on here your obviously are ready to change ..you CAN do it take hot baths to soak your muscles when the aches happen lay in bed and watch movies till its all over ..theres never been a better time to get clean then now..come out of this stay at home shit a new person Dan.
I know it's been said before, but the key to a good night's sleep is just a little exercise, I'm out of shape big time, and I started by walking 2 miles 1 hour before bed, then a hot shower. Worked up a little sweat, got the blood flowing. I always sleep for 7-8 hours after this.
I wish more people would be blessed enough to have a person like you in their life to look up to or just for support because it really would save my life
PAWS is very real for most opiate addicts (I think). I know it's very real for me and like Ryan said it's actually worse for me than the acute phase because it seems to never end. Sleep is the last thing to return to normal and takes 1 to 2 mos to start getting decent sleep. But it will happen!
i literally listen to music nonstop to snuff it out. i force myself to go out an drive around or go be around friends go to the mountains or nature. hate this white knuckle healing but my options are give up an be an addict till the day I die or just breathe an make it through the day. feeling alive again one unknown day in my future is better than never feeling alive again at all. good luck
Wow i forgot about this comment. 4 months later i do feel alive again and its totally worth all the pain, anxiety, and stress caused through WD an PAWS.
@@NASkeywest dude I do the same thing, I’ll drive or ride my motorcycle aimlessly for hours just listening to music. Paws are brutal man but no going back now. Hope you doing good and still clean.
I was on methadone for 12 years and have been off it for a little over 6 months and the depression is so bad still. I have had it in the past. I think being older and having some health issues hasn't helped my situation. Along with circumstances in our life can also be a factor in how long paws will last. I pray for all those dealing with this an have the most respect for you all as well, God bless!
Take CBD. It cured my depression in one day. I was on meds for from 2003 till this year. I'm off of everything. It's been 3 months and I still get shakes at night only :(
I was sick for 3 weeks, then felt great, but about 6 months I was grumpy and tired for about a 1 month it can come and go. Have a plan of action or routine when it happens already prepared. LITERALLY WRITE IT DOWN AND TAPE IT TO YOUR MIRROR. Like exercise, go out to eat, hot bath, nutritional supplements, painting, a hobby, zone out watching Netflix, going to AA or NA, helping newcomers, going to support group, talking about it, journal, get phone numbers, call your sponser. Learning self hypnosis helps and takes practice. Have a mantra i can do this only 1 more hour, 1 more day. Tomorrow i will feel better or a week from today i am going to the movies, make plans to have something to look forward to. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS AND TRY GO TO BED AT THE SAME TIME EVERY NIGHT - REALLY IMPORTANT.
I'm feeling PAWS right now and it's crazy! I hate it! No sleep and if I do sleep I wake up suddenly and with the worst anxiety. Heart pounding etc. Extreme fatigue and aggressiveness just like you said you want to rip somebodies head off
im about at 4 months and yesterday and today i can feel a difference like the PAWS is almost over with! i know 3 months sounds like a long time but its nothing compared to a whole life wasted on Opiates.
Connor Phebus how you doing now mate? Im 2 months into withdrawal. I get some good days but still struggle badly with paws. Mostly anxiety and depression.
Thank you so much for this video. This was very thought provoking and informative. I've been very close to getting off pain killers and something like this keeps pushing me in the right direction. It's inspiring to see that you managed to get clean and you're back to normal.
I've quit different opiates many times but I didn't realise it was PAWS that kept causing me to relapse. For the first few weeks I always feel euphoric. I'm currently at almost 4 months and have a constant tickling sensation inside my arms and legs. My circadian rhythm is messed up. I feel pretty depressed and lethargic most of the time however when I force myself to go on long walks I usually feel good afterwards. The difficulty is actually forcing myself to get going since it is so easy to give in to how I feel.
12 weeks clean and for the last week I've taken a severe nose dive. RLS has come back, I feel depressed and lethargic. I hate this, I was doing so well, like wtf. My eyes are streaming, I've a dry cough and my skin on the arm area is back to feeling prickly. After seven weeks of a nightmare I'd actually been doing really well and getting my life back, now I feel I've taken a huge leap backwards.
Can you experience paws only a couple months after going through the acute stage? I'm feeling very low and depressed. Severely. Also I'm very gittery, no appetite, waking up at 3am every night in a cold sweat with the bed soaked. Does this sound like paws ?
Thanks, brother.... I think I'm more than likely dealing with the depression side of PAWS.... More than anything else..... And that is what's causing my symptoms to last longer than most people.... it's been 5 months clean for me... But I stopped working out 9 months ago... My body is depleted..... Doctors tell me to go work out.... It's just been a mental thing with me.... Knowing how good a shape I was in and how much work I have to do to get back in that kinda shape.... But I won't let PAWS or anything else stop me from living my life again.... Love ya... Bro.... Thanks for sharing.....
Just read this. How are you now. I’m in same boat. Was 205 shredded at 6 feet. Used heavy opiates for over three years. Lost my whole physique over the last year. Now only clean 35 dYs and feel like absolute garbage. Thought of going down stairs to eat is daunting. Thought of having to shower is daunting. The gym I can’t even imagine. Complete misery. Got a long road ahead I’m sure. Using not an option these days. Just want to feel like a person again. Thanks for the post
Im a year clean of subotex was on em for over ten years methodone before that and im still yawning through the day its slowly going but apart from that im feeling wonderful getting a full nights sleep so any one just coming of hold on in there it is better on the other side 👍
Wait what? All the doctors in the the late 90's till 07 told me it only takes 3 days to 7 days to get off of H. They said it's all in my head. Luckily for me i know 9 out of 10 doctors don't know shit
Thank you so much, I've been off of suboxone for around 30 days, and just like you said some days I feel decent and others it's hard to do anything and I just feel like it's never going to end. And I read online that PAWS can last for years and it really bothered me to read that. I was only on suboxone for a little over a year so if that was the case I wouldn't know what to do. But you saying it usually only lasts up to three months really gave me hope. I really appreciate it.
Been 100% clean for 3days-22hrs-23min, getting my life back finally. 8 years of my life railing oxy 80s and smoking & snorting dope made from fentanyl all the while also using a friends 60x xanax bar a month script when I was ofcourse not prescribed. >< God let me get through it this time..
for me its a trigger to use.. also that damn cold. and depression anxiety off course. im not in the right environment to kick. but i also dont have the money to stabilize using. i hate it when u get sick evry other day. i rather use as selfmedication but feel;ing good. but tolerance has increasedd.. dont get me wrong, i would want to stop if my situation wasnt that bad..
Marius Scheijgrond , There is Never a perfect environment to quit. Take the Plunge. I did it with drug dealers all around me. Keep listening to Ryan and give yourself a Break. You deserve so Much Better!!!
Marius Scheijgrond sounds exactly like my situation 😞 I want to stop so bad, I don't enjoy it.. I'm simply maintaining not getting violently ill. Damn this cycle of Hell I'm trapped in. I live alone and can't afford to take time off from work but can't afford to keep this up either. I hate every day.
any idea how long restless legs and arms can last.....I'm going into day 10 and they are insane still since 6 hours after last dose 10 days ago. im soooooo tired and restless legs and arms are exhausting and require so much effort. thank you :)
I guess I'm lucky I stopped after 2 months of using m30s... I'm on day 3 and im able to take a shower get dressed and walk around outside. I'm fighting strong it hurts alot I just feel so heavy and depressed like nothing Is going to make me happy again..
***** Hey Ryan im almost 10 months off and have felt great until last week when I was exposed to paint fumes in the house which triggered my paws again ( I had a physical 5 months ago and was given a clean bill). I feel better but anxiety, insomnia, and some nausea crept up. It takes up to two years I hear for us to completely heal. Thanks for all these videos you do, God has Blessed you with helping others.
10 years after first Dr. persciption of OPIATE I stopped all mad. threw them away. After 6 months off opiates I had days that would come like the first 48 hours off, this was 2006. I did not understand. so Dr. started prescribing again. IM SO TIRED of everything to do with these meds but so afraid of a lifelong withdraw I don't know what to do. just found your vidio mentioning PAWS. wow, I'm not alone or crazy. Thanks
Year 3 off benzos.....i still have paws to this day. Longest streak of feeling "normal" has been 3 weeks. Most times i don't go more than 4 or 5 days without a return of symptoms for a few days.
When I first got addicted to norcos, I didn't know what physical dependance was, I was only taking them for 6 weeks, one 10mg per day. So when I stopped taking them, I got sick and went through withdrawal (didn't know what was going on) I just thought I was sick or something. So then, once that went away, I was sooooo depressed. I thought my work was making me depressed. I would sit there and nothing looked the way it used to, I was rude to people and said some ballsy things that I would never dare say. I still didn't know what was going on. Sooooo I am on day 6 of quitting suboxone, andddd I'm terrified of the paws that's coming :( but this time I am aware of it and I know what's going to happen to I can deal with it in healthy ways. I wonder if I should try anti depressants? I have about 18 Wellbutrin but don't know if that will help. Just scared :/ The depression is so crippling it WILL make me relapse back to 10 norcos a day. Scared :( but trying to be positive
Around 8 months into my recovery I started developing PAWS symptoms. I'm currently a year and a half sober and I still have paws symptoms so that'll be about 10 months of dealing with it. It has let up in the last couple months but I still have days that are a struggle. Mainly anxiety. I'm starting to wonder if I gave myself some kind of anxiety disorder from abusing drugs. I was abusing opiates of all sorts along with amphetamines and the occasional benzo. I really put my brain through the wringer but I'm going to keep moving forward.
Especially if it hasn’t gotten better by now I’d go see a doctor or try to figure out if anything else changed in your life cause 8 months is a long time for paws to just suddenly appear. In my experience they hit within a week of the acute phase ending and come and go for a couple weeks to a couple months. Everyone is different but almost everyone I talk to is better by 6 months
Ryan just what you said I went almost 3 weeks without taking Suboxison and these last few days I’ve been so depressed, Tired, no motivation at all or zero energy. I also haven’t ate much.
had over 3 months, went home during winter break. I relapsed(Heroin multiple bags, Iv) for like 2 weeks or so... now Im on day 5 again. I feel good, I'm in college so I'm keeping busy with school. Anxiety is a big one for me, just walking into a class room my hearts racing, I feel like I'm twitching, can't breath, awww man it blows... I feel pretty good so far I stopped smoking weed b4 class as well maybe that contributed to the anxiety who knows well wait and see.
I've got clean multiple times I'm 23 now I can personally say paws is shitty but at most it lasts 3 months usually for me it would be week 3 to week 6 something like that maybe longer hit after 3 weeks it's mostly sneezing restless legs a little the rest is mental I have the mind set nomatter what I'm gonna grind through it and that's how it has to be walk up everyday and think we'll a feel a little better than yesterday and yeah I have bad days I'm not far enough in for this shit yet though iv gone through it 4 times though
Keep trying, I bet you learn something each time, it took me 32 years of trying to get it really right now I’m 16 months clean; my advice it just give it your best effort each time till you make it successfully, really great 👍 your trying , this could be the lucky 🍀 time
today makes 3 weeks since last sub my fear was rls didn't happen I felt a little the first 3 days but after that I'm happy than sad think of people I lost get really depressed but the physical hasn't been as bad as I tell my wife and self I was scared thinking it's gonna happen in a week but nothing did so what's your opinion? On that an I lucky to not be going through he'll or are some people lying saying they feel like dying??
I noticed that too.... lol... But didn't want to make a comment.... giggle.....Sometimes we need a laugh.... Even with such serious topics discussed on here.... :)
I’m not really Withdrawing it’s the Depression and feeling so down and sad. I have no idea wtf is going on. I haven’t worked at all because I’m just so tired and down
Lorazepam withdrawal is the worst thing I've ever gone through in my life. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy! Now my brother is going through the same and his withdrawal symptoms are somewhat different then mine. I'm praying so hard for him because his worst symptom is his face burning all the time! ECT ...
I remember watching the dr drew rehab show and his one burned looking employee was telling this guy that after 3 days all withdrawals should ve over and I wanted to kick his fucking teeth in. at one month for me is when time stopped moving at a snails pace and I stopped sweating the bed so bad youd think I was peeing in it
Sabrina Ozuna Hi I'm 90 days today and I've hit a brick wall. Insomnia prickly skin agitation and a dry cough and running eyes. Mentally and emotionally I'm drained. I thought I was done with this! I don't know what to do... help or advice please.
Grey Line. What are you 90 days off of if you dont mind me asking and how long was your habbit? Im sorry i would have replied sooner but i just got off work
Mind the spelling was fast typing. Cheers. Meant to add am on 55ml but its been aroind 4 years highest was 60 so a need it to speed up a bit so a know a need to stay away from the shite and start dropping it. Cheers.
Yes me, I have bipolar 1 , n emotional personality disorder, I’ve been on a few different psych drugs n had to change because of side effects, on seroquel 200mg at the moment BUT I’ve been clean for 16 months not one drug craving whole time, my opinion only , I’d definitely say no the meds
I went through detox for methadone, oxycodone, klonapine and phentermine. I just got 6 months clean and am in PAWS. I was fine until I got to Sober living and went through it at 3 months and now at six months. It's scary and if you don't know about it, it can definitely cause a relapse. Mine is physical, mental and emotional. I don't want to get out of bed, do anything and the depression can be overwhelming. Being around people that are in recovery and understand, reaching out. Talking about it and knowing that it will pass helps me. Also diet, water, exercise and laughter help. It's almost like being bi-polar. One day you are happy and the next day you feel like crap. Don't give up, it gets better...
I have the same problem. I had been on methadone for 15 years and stopped 9 months ago. I fell into depression most of the time. I just relapsed on perkacet and it made me feel good and guilty. I have had extreme anxiety and don't even want to leave the apartment. this led me to relapse and now I'm contemplating goin back to the methadone clinic. at the same time I dont. it's a bitch
Did you go through detox and rehab? Have you tried antidepressants and or gabapentin for the anxiety. I have no anxiety, but did really bad. Also eating healthy, staying away from sugar and caffeine helps a ton. Stimulants will give you anxiety. And exercise. I feel a ton better since I've been doing all that. Good luck!!! :)
Z Z How are you doing, love? I have noticed some of your comments, I just wanted to say you are a beautiful person, you are worth getting clean, no matter what you have done, what you have been through, or how you feel right now. I hope you are doing well, sending you positivity! ❤❤❤❤❤
no lie and i dont wanna discourage anyone but i must be a very rare case after 5 years clean i was still having the sweats, couldnt sleep good and that intense edginess. no mental issues. no depression or fear, worry, anxiety or anything. just that shitty edge feeling 24/7. i mustve burned up my receptors and theyre not growing back. i mean 5 years!!! i eventually gave in and after 5 years clean i did dope for a few weeks just so i could get on suboxone, and ive accepted that i may have to be on it for life.
It helps to build a community with people that understand and are going through the same thing. Also people in recovery help each other. Sharing at meetings helps to get things off your chest without judgement. If you isolated it's a way to get out of the house and around people. And everyone understands what you are going through. Not to mention you learn from their experiences. Find a meeting that works for you and become a part of the home group. From what I've seen the people that have a lot of clean time work the programs. It's a good way to make friends that are sober. Get a sponsor that has more than a year clean and call your sponsor if you are struggling. Work the12 steps with your sponsor. The steps are to learn about yourself and how to live sober and happy.
Rest in peace Ryan.
You helped me get through this even though you're gone 💔
@@simonduff5005 from a blood clot I think
@@seiryumidnite9566 Yes
@@seiryumidnite9566 Ryan had a blood clot disorder he speaks about it on some of his videos. The last one he got went to his lung and it ended up being fatal. I know about it because it was all over the recovery community. And it was on his Facebook page. There was even a Go Fund Me to help out his wife and children. If you go to his Facebook page (there should be a link under the description in this video but if not just look up his name its a picture of him in a suit with no tie). Scroll down to October2018 (someone was reposting some of his stuff for awhile so don't let that throw you) once you get to October of 2018 you will see it for yourself
@@seiryumidnite9566 Yes, I agree. Its awful. I feel horrible for his wife and kids. He sure did help a lot of people. There are a lot of clean people out here thanks to him and his videos. But it went beyond his videos he gave his email address and use to give away his phone number. He was one of a kind. And definitely one of the good ones. Its been 3 years and he is still missed!
For me the battle with paws ended when i realized what was going on. Then it made me angry and I started to treat it like I was in withdrawal. I got up got moving got out in the sun. Being in the sun was a game changer for me thankfully for my loving wife who watched me withdrawal more times than she deserved on like my 3rd day she begged me to take a walk with her. Knowing i may not walk through hell for myself I would absolutely do it for her. Once I did noticed i started thinking i can do this and she did it the next day and the next and so on. Before I knew it i was doing it on my own and I started to feel great.
That's so sweet
ill never waste another day of my life again..take the plunge people..life gets better
Hey brotha, how have you been? It's been 4 years since you posted, did you do it cold turkey? How have the years been, still clean?
Clean since December 10th 2015 had to move from Vegas to Colorado for a few years to do so and leave all my so called "friends" at the time behind but i beat addiction i won my family's and my girlfriends trust back i moved away with a suitcase full of dirty clothes to my name and now im back in Vegas with my girl and our daughter with a good job and our own house. Recovery is possible for anyone thats wants better for themselves..And we all derserve a happy healthy life. Thanks for responding to my comment after all these years..it made my day to post this comment having beat addiction. Much love to all.
@@Unionstar_ Where in Colorado? I think I'm gonna start my battle here soon and been youtubing advice but I always wonder about the people who post that they've been clean and wonder how they're doing, did you do it cold turkey?
@@Unionstar_ how long were withdrawals? Do you/your brain ever go back to feeling normal?
@daniel lopez withdrawals lasted for about two weeks first week was pure hell if im being honest cold sweats, zero sleep sucked but in my opinion the restless legs was the worst my knees ached so bad..but dont let that scare you you will be rewarded with having your brain and health back when you make it threw cause yes your brain levels out and like i was saying oneday its all over and your you again. Its not easy bro and its not fun but if your on here your obviously are ready to change ..you CAN do it take hot baths to soak your muscles when the aches happen lay in bed and watch movies till its all over ..theres never been a better time to get clean then now..come out of this stay at home shit a new person Dan.
I know it's been said before, but the key to a good night's sleep is just a little exercise, I'm out of shape big time, and I started by walking 2 miles 1 hour before bed, then a hot shower. Worked up a little sweat, got the blood flowing. I always sleep for 7-8 hours after this.
I wish more people would be blessed enough to have a person like you in their life to look up to or just for support because it really would save my life
PAWS is very real for most opiate addicts (I think). I know it's very real for me and like Ryan said it's actually worse for me than the acute phase because it seems to never end. Sleep is the last thing to return to normal and takes 1 to 2 mos to start getting decent sleep. But it will happen!
Im struggling and have not had a descent sleep in months
Thank you Ryan for all your videos! You have definitely helped me stay clean. 45 days today off heroin and xanax
i literally listen to music nonstop to snuff it out. i force myself to go out an drive around or go be around friends go to the mountains or nature. hate this white knuckle healing but my options are give up an be an addict till the day I die or just breathe an make it through the day. feeling alive again one unknown day in my future is better than never feeling alive again at all. good luck
Wow i forgot about this comment. 4 months later i do feel alive again and its totally worth all the pain, anxiety, and stress caused through WD an PAWS.
Connor Phebus Thank you for this comment, I needed to read it.
Hey it's been 3 years since you posted, how have you been? Clean?
@@NASkeywest dude I do the same thing, I’ll drive or ride my motorcycle aimlessly for hours just listening to music. Paws are brutal man but no going back now. Hope you doing good and still clean.
@@NASkeyweststill done with opiates bro?
I was on methadone for 12 years and have been off it for a little over 6 months and the depression is so bad still. I have had it in the past. I think being older and having some health issues hasn't helped my situation. Along with circumstances in our life can also be a factor in how long paws will last. I pray for all those dealing with this an have the most respect for you all as well, God bless!
Take CBD. It cured my depression in one day. I was on meds for from 2003 till this year. I'm off of everything. It's been 3 months and I still get shakes at night only :(
Miss ya ryan... cant believe ur not with us anymore... RIP dude
I was sick for 3 weeks, then felt great, but about 6 months I was grumpy and tired for about a 1 month it can come and go. Have a plan of action or routine when it happens already prepared. LITERALLY WRITE IT DOWN AND TAPE IT TO YOUR MIRROR. Like exercise, go out to eat, hot bath, nutritional supplements, painting, a hobby, zone out watching Netflix, going to AA or NA, helping newcomers, going to support group, talking about it, journal, get phone numbers, call your sponser. Learning self hypnosis helps and takes practice. Have a mantra i can do this only 1 more hour, 1 more day. Tomorrow i will feel better or a week from today i am going to the movies, make plans to have something to look forward to. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS AND TRY GO TO BED AT THE SAME TIME EVERY NIGHT - REALLY IMPORTANT.
We miss you Ryan 🙏🏻😞 we really do.... I’m am sorry for taking you for granted......
I'm feeling PAWS right now and it's crazy! I hate it! No sleep and if I do sleep I wake up suddenly and with the worst anxiety. Heart pounding etc. Extreme fatigue and aggressiveness just like you said you want to rip somebodies head off
Yees
Yes im feeling like that now, at least you should be over yours now
im about at 4 months and yesterday and today i can feel a difference like the PAWS is almost over with! i know 3 months sounds like a long time but its nothing compared to a whole life wasted on Opiates.
Connor Phebus how you doing now mate? Im 2 months into withdrawal. I get some good days but still struggle badly with paws. Mostly anxiety and depression.
Close to 4 months now and still dealing with these symptoms. So frustrating.
I was just wondering how u are doing now hope u did well and are doing amazing now ❤x
@@kellymcgrogan8019 I am doing well. I still have mental issues but I am a decently happy person half the time lol
Thank you so much for this video. This was very thought provoking and informative. I've been very close to getting off pain killers and something like this keeps pushing me in the right direction. It's inspiring to see that you managed to get clean and you're back to normal.
Matt Twenge you can do it also !
Thank you Ryan. Rest in Power sir.😞
What was the cause of death?
@@drdu3785 DVT
I've quit different opiates many times but I didn't realise it was PAWS that kept causing me to relapse. For the first few weeks I always feel euphoric. I'm currently at almost 4 months and have a constant tickling sensation inside my arms and legs. My circadian rhythm is messed up. I feel pretty depressed and lethargic most of the time however when I force myself to go on long walks I usually feel good afterwards. The difficulty is actually forcing myself to get going since it is so easy to give in to how I feel.
You're doing great
Great advice........now water the plant behind you. It's time.
Denise Ayres 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😅😅
Hahaah🤣
Awww
12 weeks clean and for the last week I've taken a severe nose dive. RLS has come back, I feel depressed and lethargic. I hate this, I was doing so well, like wtf. My eyes are streaming, I've a dry cough and my skin on the arm area is back to feeling prickly. After seven weeks of a nightmare I'd actually been doing really well and getting my life back, now I feel I've taken a huge leap backwards.
I been clean for 2 months didn't think it would hit me anxiety sucks but hanging in there ryan😳......😊
Hope your still clean, if not when its your time you'll know. Dont give up tania
It's been 3 years since you posted, how have you been? Clean?
How is ur paws
Can you experience paws only a couple months after going through the acute stage? I'm feeling very low and depressed. Severely. Also I'm very gittery, no appetite, waking up at 3am every night in a cold sweat with the bed soaked. Does this sound like paws ?
sweetpea- KellyAnn YES
sweetpea- KellyAnn, Yes. If you’re not feeling better, by now, I would see a medical doctor. I hope you are feeling better!🌻
sweetpea- KellyAnn Wondering how long it took for your sweating to stop ? Well, I HOPE it stopped .
The bed and myself soaked in sweat and insomnia is usually worse at like day 2, 3 and 4.
Thanks, brother.... I think I'm more than likely dealing with the depression side of PAWS.... More than anything else..... And that is what's causing my symptoms to last longer than most people.... it's been 5 months clean for me... But I stopped working out 9 months ago... My body is depleted..... Doctors tell me to go work out.... It's just been a mental thing with me.... Knowing how good a shape I was in and how much work I have to do to get back in that kinda shape.... But I won't let PAWS or anything else stop me from living my life again.... Love ya... Bro.... Thanks for sharing.....
Just read this. How are you now. I’m in same boat. Was 205 shredded at 6 feet. Used heavy opiates for over three years. Lost my whole physique over the last year. Now only clean 35 dYs and feel like absolute garbage. Thought of going down stairs to eat is daunting. Thought of having to shower is daunting. The gym I can’t even imagine. Complete misery. Got a long road ahead I’m sure. Using not an option these days. Just want to feel like a person again. Thanks for the post
@@anthonybellini8501: Hey how are you doing today? I am having the same problem so if you don't mind could you tell me how long did it last for you?
Rest Easy my guy 🎊
Im a year clean of subotex was on em for over ten years methodone before that and im still yawning through the day its slowly going but apart from that im feeling wonderful getting a full nights sleep so any one just coming of hold on in there it is better on the other side 👍
Wait what? All the doctors in the the late 90's till 07 told me it only takes 3 days to 7 days to get off of H. They said it's all in my head.
Luckily for me i know 9 out of 10 doctors don't know shit
Thank you so much, I've been off of suboxone for around 30 days, and just like you said some days I feel decent and others it's hard to do anything and I just feel like it's never going to end. And I read online that PAWS can last for years and it really bothered me to read that. I was only on suboxone for a little over a year so if that was the case I wouldn't know what to do. But you saying it usually only lasts up to three months really gave me hope. I really appreciate it.
Been 100% clean for 3days-22hrs-23min, getting my life back finally. 8 years of my life railing oxy 80s and smoking & snorting dope made from fentanyl all the while also using a friends 60x xanax bar a month script when I was ofcourse not prescribed. >< God let me get through it this time..
Curtis G how aRe you
Im dealing w/ extreme tiredness.
for me its a trigger to use.. also that damn cold. and depression anxiety off course. im not in the right environment to kick. but i also dont have the money to stabilize using. i hate it when u get sick evry other day. i rather use as selfmedication but feel;ing good. but tolerance has increasedd.. dont get me wrong, i would want to stop if my situation wasnt that bad..
Marius Scheijgrond It'll never be the "right " time. You have to start loving yourself and take the plunge. Good Lick!
Marius Scheijgrond , There is Never a perfect environment to quit. Take the Plunge. I did it with drug dealers all around me. Keep listening to Ryan and give yourself a Break. You deserve so Much Better!!!
Marius Scheijgrond sounds exactly like my situation 😞
I want to stop so bad, I don't enjoy it.. I'm simply maintaining not getting violently ill. Damn this cycle of Hell I'm trapped in.
I live alone and can't afford to take time off from work but can't afford to keep this up either. I hate every day.
merncat75 I’m so so sorry to hear this. Feeling trapped is just dreadful. I truly hope you’re doing better 💕
any idea how long restless legs and arms can last.....I'm going into day 10 and they are insane still since 6 hours after last dose 10 days ago. im soooooo tired and restless legs and arms are exhausting and require so much effort. thank you :)
I guess I'm lucky I stopped after 2 months of using m30s... I'm on day 3 and im able to take a shower get dressed and walk around outside. I'm fighting strong it hurts alot I just feel so heavy and depressed like nothing Is going to make me happy again..
Day 9... Feeling good. No depression just a little aches and pains.
***** Hey Ryan im almost 10 months off and have felt great until last week when I was exposed to paint fumes in the house which triggered my paws again ( I had a physical 5 months ago and was given a clean bill). I feel better but anxiety, insomnia, and some nausea crept up. It takes up to two years I hear for us to completely heal. Thanks for all these videos you do, God has Blessed you with helping others.
jimmy j reviews I'm struggling right now.. I feel your desperation :(
3 years later.. How are you today??
10 years after first Dr. persciption of OPIATE I stopped all mad. threw them away. After 6 months off opiates I had days that would come like the first 48 hours off, this was 2006. I did not understand. so Dr. started prescribing again. IM SO TIRED of everything to do with these meds but so afraid of a lifelong withdraw I don't know what to do. just found your vidio mentioning PAWS. wow, I'm not alone or crazy. Thanks
Will antidepressants help with p a w s
Year 3 off benzos.....i still have paws to this day. Longest streak of feeling "normal" has been 3 weeks. Most times i don't go more than 4 or 5 days without a return of symptoms for a few days.
When I first got addicted to norcos, I didn't know what physical dependance was, I was only taking them for 6 weeks, one 10mg per day. So when I stopped taking them, I got sick and went through withdrawal (didn't know what was going on) I just thought I was sick or something.
So then, once that went away, I was sooooo depressed. I thought my work was making me depressed. I would sit there and nothing looked the way it used to, I was rude to people and said some ballsy things that I would never dare say. I still didn't know what was going on.
Sooooo I am on day 6 of quitting suboxone, andddd I'm terrified of the paws that's coming :( but this time I am aware of it and I know what's going to happen to I can deal with it in healthy ways. I wonder if I should try anti depressants? I have about 18 Wellbutrin but don't know if that will help. Just scared :/
The depression is so crippling it WILL make me relapse back to 10 norcos a day. Scared :( but trying to be positive
Scarlett Laura how are you doing now? I'm still struggling bad 😖
merncat75, Hi There! Go and get you some vitamins. They will help you in your Recovery.♥️
Scarlett Laura do not take the Wellbutrin , just use natural supplements
1 a day?? Thats nothing
4 months clean and the only problems are G.I problems and some mood swings. Other than that life is great not being a zombie.
christopher pesqueira diarrhea?
what did you do for it, how long did it last if that's what you meant?
also how are you feeling now 2yrs later?
Around 8 months into my recovery I started developing PAWS symptoms. I'm currently a year and a half sober and I still have paws symptoms so that'll be about 10 months of dealing with it. It has let up in the last couple months but I still have days that are a struggle. Mainly anxiety. I'm starting to wonder if I gave myself some kind of anxiety disorder from abusing drugs. I was abusing opiates of all sorts along with amphetamines and the occasional benzo. I really put my brain through the wringer but I'm going to keep moving forward.
Especially if it hasn’t gotten better by now I’d go see a doctor or try to figure out if anything else changed in your life cause 8 months is a long time for paws to just suddenly appear. In my experience they hit within a week of the acute phase ending and come and go for a couple weeks to a couple months. Everyone is different but almost everyone I talk to is better by 6 months
Day 10 off 4 years of methadone. Walked off 29mgs. I can’t wait till I feel normal
Man I’m going on a month and a half cold turkey off methadone! And I’m still going through PAWS! But I suffer from depression & anxiety anyways!
How are you now?
Can you tell me about your withdrawls? How long did u go through them? Does calm support take away any symptoms
Because it is HELL & hard to stick it out if your not weak af...which I am. Sorry...spiraling. watching your old videos trying to get comfort.😔😔
Z Z I'm living this Hell too right now 😞
Ryan what do you think about AA or NA do you go to meetings and do you think you can maintain sobriety without them. Thanks
Ryan just what you said I went almost 3 weeks without taking Suboxison and these last few days I’ve been so depressed, Tired, no motivation at all or zero energy. I also haven’t ate much.
had over 3 months, went home during winter break. I relapsed(Heroin multiple bags, Iv) for like 2 weeks or so... now Im on day 5 again. I feel good, I'm in college so I'm keeping busy with school. Anxiety is a big one for me, just walking into a class room my hearts racing, I feel like I'm twitching, can't breath, awww man it blows... I feel pretty good so far I stopped smoking weed b4 class as well maybe that contributed to the anxiety who knows well wait and see.
How are u today?
How long will this
Last ? When will I get my life back?
Legend
I've got clean multiple times I'm 23 now I can personally say paws is shitty but at most it lasts 3 months usually for me it would be week 3 to week 6 something like that maybe longer hit after 3 weeks it's mostly sneezing restless legs a little the rest is mental I have the mind set nomatter what I'm gonna grind through it and that's how it has to be walk up everyday and think we'll a feel a little better than yesterday and yeah I have bad days I'm not far enough in for this shit yet though iv gone through it 4 times though
Keep trying, I bet you learn something each time, it took me 32 years of trying to get it really right now I’m 16 months clean; my advice it just give it your best effort each time till you make it successfully, really great 👍 your trying , this could be the lucky 🍀 time
today makes 3 weeks since last sub my fear was rls didn't happen I felt a little the first 3 days but after that I'm happy than sad think of people I lost get really depressed but the physical hasn't been as bad as I tell my wife and self I was scared thinking it's gonna happen in a week but nothing did so what's your opinion? On that an I lucky to not be going through he'll or are some people lying saying they feel like dying??
Timothy Logan Lucky
Most a living HELL, but your one ☝️ of the lucky 🍀 ones
I consume low doses of marijuana and the relaxing effects without the paranoia help me get through the soulcrushing sadness and emptiness
I noticed that too.... lol... But didn't want to make a comment.... giggle.....Sometimes we need a laugh.... Even with such serious topics discussed on here.... :)
What's it called when your skin Burns/tingles post withdrawal?
Robert Ayala Rosales Hell
No seriously, I get that anytime I withdrawl
I needed to hear this.. thank you
I’m not really Withdrawing it’s the Depression and feeling so down and sad. I have no idea wtf is going on. I haven’t worked at all because I’m just so tired and down
Lorazepam withdrawal is the worst thing I've ever gone through in my life. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy! Now my brother is going through the same and his withdrawal symptoms are somewhat different then mine. I'm praying so hard for him because his worst symptom is his face burning all the time! ECT ...
Lol! @ denise..... water that plant..... Ryan!
Thank you.
I remember watching the dr drew rehab show and his one burned looking employee was telling this guy that after 3 days all withdrawals should ve over and I wanted to kick his fucking teeth in. at one month for me is when time stopped moving at a snails pace and I stopped sweating the bed so bad youd think I was peeing in it
Erik Rasmussen a whole month 😭😵 oh I can't do this 😨
taylor steele. 2nd month gets easier. able to sleep and some days you'll have alot more energy. keep pushin im barely on my 90th day today
Sabrina Ozuna Hi I'm 90 days today and I've hit a brick wall. Insomnia prickly skin agitation and a dry cough and running eyes. Mentally and emotionally I'm drained. I thought I was done with this! I don't know what to do... help or advice please.
Grey Line. What are you 90 days off of if you dont mind me asking and how long was your habbit? Im sorry i would have replied sooner but i just got off work
Mind the spelling was fast typing. Cheers. Meant to add am on 55ml but its been aroind 4 years highest was 60 so a need it to speed up a bit so a know a need to stay away from the shite and start dropping it. Cheers.
my mind/body is completely shot right now. this is not good. nice video though.
i think bipolar meds make cravings worse somehow... anyone else have mental health?
Yuna69able me
Yes me, I have bipolar 1 , n emotional personality disorder, I’ve been on a few different psych drugs n had to change because of side effects, on seroquel 200mg at the moment BUT I’ve been clean for 16 months not one drug craving whole time, my opinion only , I’d definitely say no the meds
No they don’t give you cravings, n maybe even stop them, just my opinion
I’m in day 7 it been easy I had but restless on third day but nothing to bad. I drank detox tea to though
is back pain a part of paws?..and hellagious anxiety that's causing gerd...
Back pain may not be a part of P.A.W.S. İ've had them for like first 2 months and then it happened less frequently than it was.
I went through detox for methadone, oxycodone, klonapine and phentermine. I just got 6 months clean and am in PAWS. I was fine until I got to Sober living and went through it at 3 months and now at six months. It's scary and if you don't know about it, it can definitely cause a relapse. Mine is physical, mental and emotional. I don't want to get out of bed, do anything and the depression can be overwhelming. Being around people that are in recovery and understand, reaching out. Talking about it and knowing that it will pass helps me. Also diet, water, exercise and laughter help. It's almost like being bi-polar. One day you are happy and the next day you feel like crap. Don't give up, it gets better...
I have the same problem. I had been on methadone for 15 years and stopped 9 months ago. I fell into depression most of the time. I just relapsed on perkacet and it made me feel good and guilty. I have had extreme anxiety and don't even want to leave the apartment. this led me to relapse and now I'm contemplating goin back to the methadone clinic. at the same time I dont. it's a bitch
Did you go through detox and rehab? Have you tried antidepressants and or gabapentin for the anxiety. I have no anxiety, but did really bad. Also eating healthy, staying away from sugar and caffeine helps a ton. Stimulants will give you anxiety. And exercise. I feel a ton better since I've been doing all that. Good luck!!! :)
Drinking on withdrawal s? Does It help?
No. It did not help me
I am on day 8 with my withdrawal from morphine how long does PAWs last and what can I do to reduced the symptoms
force yourself to exercise and take supplements. eat right, read and keep your mind busy.
I think sometimes every little thing is "paws" to some ,it's a lot of what u put in u get back
thank u!!!
Well there have been times I have wanted to cave and take pills but so far so good. Whew. Easier then I thought..
Could I talk to u by email?
I hate me at this moment...
Z Z I hate me more than words can explain
Z Z How are you doing, love? I have noticed some of your comments, I just wanted to say you are a beautiful person, you are worth getting clean, no matter what you have done, what you have been through, or how you feel right now. I hope you are doing well, sending you positivity! ❤❤❤❤❤
no lie and i dont wanna discourage anyone but i must be a very rare case after 5 years clean i was still having the sweats, couldnt sleep good and that intense edginess. no mental issues. no depression or fear, worry, anxiety or anything. just that shitty edge feeling 24/7. i mustve burned up my receptors and theyre not growing back. i mean 5 years!!! i eventually gave in and after 5 years clean i did dope for a few weeks just so i could get on suboxone, and ive accepted that i may have to be on it for life.
gristam s 5 years my ass lol I think u have years confused with months maybe
You poor thing, I personally would or seriously considered suicide, rather then going back to drugs, if it came to that choice
45 days . Yet to feel normal. Lol . Hellllllpppppp!! Lol . I got perma paws.
Travis Ewing 😞
Ryan what do you think about AA or NA do you go to meetings and do you think you can maintain sobriety without them. Thanks
It helps to build a community with people that understand and are going through the same thing. Also people in recovery help each other. Sharing at meetings helps to get things off your chest without judgement. If you isolated it's a way to get out of the house and around people. And everyone understands what you are going through. Not to mention you learn from their experiences. Find a meeting that works for you and become a part of the home group. From what I've seen the people that have a lot of clean time work the programs. It's a good way to make friends that are sober. Get a sponsor that has more than a year clean and call your sponsor if you are struggling. Work the12 steps with your sponsor. The steps are to learn about yourself and how to live sober and happy.