The Shrek Movies - Nostalgia Critic
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2022
- For many, it's the naughty version of fairy tales, but NC might have a point of view that could be a little different than what you expected. Nostalgia Critic takes a look at the Shrek movies.
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Shrek is an American media franchise made by DreamWorks Animation, loosely based on William Steig's 1990 picture book of the same name. It includes four computer-animated films: Shrek (2001), Shrek 2 (2004), Shrek the Third (2007), and Shrek Forever After (2010) with a fifth film in development. A short 4-D film, Shrek 4-D, which originally was a theme park ride, was released in 2003.
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Donkey!!!!!!!!!
Where is your Cruella review?
Can you review Mirror Mirror?
The "Shrek films" are kinda a hit or miss with some loving or hate it or somewhere in between or ride "Shrek 4-d" ride at universal studios but then again who doesn't love the "Shrek movies" at this point
Fun fact: "Shrek" means "monster" in Yiddish, and is derived from the German word "Schreck", which means "terror" or "fright".
Thanks for the information, I only recently found out that it was based off of a book!
@Tomás also fun fact: the actor who played Nosferatu in the old vampire movie was named "Max Schreck" his name literally translating to Greatest Terror
Is that why we have the word shriek?
A five second Google search tells me the yiddiah portion is wrong.
The German word is correct though.
@@GreatGeneralZar Apparently it is not wrong en.wiktionary.org/wiki/שרעק just have to put up with Hebrew letters.
Honestly my favorite part about the fourth one is that the "True Love's Kiss" didn't work until Fiona actually had feelings for Shrek.
Yes
My main gripe about the fourth one is that it feels like a lesson Shrek didn’t need to learn. He didn’t like people treated him like a monster so why would he be nostalgic for that. All he needed was a vacation somewhere quiet rather than relive a part of his life where he wasn’t the happiest.
@@matthewdopler8997 He did enjoy being a monster to a degree, but when it's treated like a novelty act and emasculating him in the fourth he longs for his past life of solitude and scaring people.
He loathes having to constantly be surrounded by loud and annoying people and creatures always craving his "entertainment" that he fails to appreciate what he has in that moment.
It's always been a thing with Shrek that he craves his privacy to a fault, he's a loner who wants affection but not constant interaction.
@@matthewdopler8997 I’m no psychologist but from what I’ve seen it’s kind of a real life issue of nostalgic lenses. At the time life was clearly bad and then something happens to make it better. But at some point good living becomes mundane to the point your mind will trick you that the roughage you once went through was “exciting” and therefore better, which of course is not always true. Idk. It’s a thing and is realistic for some people.
When Fiona tosses Ariel to the sharks in Shrek 2... that makes me howl every time. 🤣🤣🤣
sadge..
Me too . . .😂always hated that character so I loved that scene
For me the original Shrek is the only time the ‘dance party ending’ trope has ever worked (at least, outside of full-blown musicals). Even the similar number in Shrek 2 felt a little tacked-on to me. But in the original, it feels completely earned, completely in-keeping with the tone, and completely energised. Just a great coda after a fantastic emotional climax.
And sadly, it’s probably why it has become a cliche ever since.
I saw it in the cinema with my dad, he laughed harder and harder with every new sight gag - the can-can, the macarena, the breakdancing pigs, the James Brown reference - that I thought he was going to pass out by the end. A++ ending.
While I do love the fact that you love the dance scene in Shrek 1 I don't really understand why the second one felt a little tacked on to you.
Aren't they at a party and they are just celebrating?
@@andreasmeelie1889 tbh that makes it make sense. just over all the second brought what everybody loves about shrek while telling its story with everything making sense
Yeah after the absolute master piece that was Holding Out for a Hero which mixes the Score, Song, Story, and Animation together amazingly, Living la Vida Loca was kinda just. There. I frequently forget it was even in the movie.
God, do I hate the dance party endings in animated movies. So over-played.
I like the idea of Prince Charming coming back as a legitimate threat now that his mother is no longer holding him back, but instead he's the same exact character as before.
Merrrr...he had more charm to him this time around
Especially since he was a villain that made sense thematically.
The movie is about parenthood, or rather how bad parenthood can negatively effect someone and Shrek dreading screwing it up the way his own father did.
Well, in comes Prince Charming. The personification of all of Shrek's fears with an axe to grind.
@@filipvadas7602 Amazing concept, mediocre execution
I'd loved it.
He could also have come back as more of an ally or "good guy" after getting out from under his mothers manipulative thumb and finding somebody he actually loved, that would be a believable turn around if they handled it correctly as it is pretty clear charming is only doing what his mother tells him to do in the first movie. It would actually kind of make sense If he fell in love with Doris (one of the step sisters who became friends with shrek) because men who have the kind of "mama's boy" relationship he had with his mother tend to gravitate towards women that can... fill a similar role... so to say... and i feel like Doris could believably walk the line of being authorative in a way charming finds attractive, without becoming controlling of him like his mother was.
Honestly the Gingerbread man deserves a Medal of Honor for sticking through that scene
Man, he was such a good character in that game
@nemo pouncey Gingy is just a nickname for him
Not my gumdrop buttons!
@@rockingbeat Alright then! Who’s hiding them?!
@@jonathanwallis3300 okay…I’ll tell you…..do you know the muffin man?
Given the way *Puss in Boots: The Last Wish* ended, I think it's safe to say that this franchise is not so dead anymore. 😌
It never really died.
@@tanimation7289 good point. I guess it was just on a long hiatus. A 13-year long hiatus.
No one was expecting PiB2, let alone that it would be so INCREDIBLE, so IF they have a great story in mind for this, then why not?
Fun Fact: Jeffrey Katzenberg the head of Dreamworks actually modeled Lord Farquaad after then current CEO of Disney Michael Eisner, because when Katzenberg worked at Disney, he saw how Eisner was treating workers and saw him as a dictator, kind of like Farquaad.
It's also why he named him "Lord Fuckwad"
The moment Puss says, "Today I repay my debts," legitimately always gets me for some reason. It's not like he's sacrificing himself. He doesn't die. He's owed this debt for about 2 days. Yet it never fails to grip me. I do think some of that is the music.
Honestly, same. Even knowing all that and expecting the line, it never fails to grab a hold of me
Same here. I have no idea why this little bit gets me emotional every time.
Same. It's probably the music+ the way the line is perfectly delivered+ an all around great character (in half a movie, he seems like he was part of the trio all along.)
To be fair that entire scene is one of yhe best in cinematic history
To be fair, he very well may have intended to sacrifice himself to the point of laying down his life. And that, my friend, is the definition of honor.
I remember my grandmother seeing the first movie and she was absolutely in love with the ending. Fiona staying an ogre amazed her. She never saw a fairytale ending like that and she loved the message.
Always thought this movie was overrated. I remember I was 14 when it came out in 01 and the hype was suffocating
_"By night one way, by day another. This shall be the norm. Until you find true love's first kiss. And then take love's true form."_
"Love's true form", kept thinking how very very weirdly it was phrased when I first saw the movie. The ending vindicated my suspicion. "True love's first kiss", true love = Shrek. Love's true form = Shrek's true form. It was right there in the wording, in a literal sense, not some generic love's true form.
@@nsasupporter7557 Sounds like a you problem, but okay.
Personally, I hated that they did it this way. Having her not turn beautiful WOULD have been awesome for me, if not for one fact: she's in love with a "hideous beast". The one time the one transformed into a beast doesn't turn back into a beauty, and they had her in love with a beast. I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but it felt to me like it was saying that a hideous beast belongs with another hideous beast. What I wanted was for her to turn into a beauty, and for that to make no difference to either of them. Give me a story that shows that you don't need to find someone on your level; if you're hideous, you can still pursue your love no matter how pretty he/she is, and if you're beautiful, that ugly creature whose very appearance disgusts you could give you a happily ever after Disney WISHES they could manage.
@@monsterhanna6691 🖕
I think what makes the first film so funny is the actors and their delivery. Like the line, “Why are you following me?” Isn’t funny, but then you hear the way Scottish Mike Myers says it and it’s just hysterical. Also the onion scene is a parody on the scene in movies where a character explains something through nature (think Oogway and Shifu talking about peaches).
You're quoting Schafrillas, aren't you?
I agree; the deliveries make the lines funny. "Two things...Shut. Up." Or maybe I just like Myer's accent that somehow makes everything funny xD
I think the comedy from the onion scene come from Shrek explaining why he ain't afraid of a dragon by making a comparison to onions.
And instead of Donkey following up on dragons being quite dangerous and powerful despite ogres having layers, he instead keeps on harping on onions being a bad comparison. The entire discussion is funny because of how absurd and pointless it really is.
A teacher I had college used that scene to describe how relationships develop overtime
Great point. Doug doesn't think Mike Myers is funny without good writing, but these scenes are funny because of their delivery, not their writing
My dad got teary eyed during Shrek forever after when the scene happened when Shrek says he said the best part of going back was falling in love with Fiona all over again and talking about how they had kids. I think it’s sweet.
I actually really like Shrek 3 sure it's not perfect but one moment I will always remember what Shrek told Arthur: "You know maybe hard to believe, what with my obvious charm and good looks. But people used to think that I was a monster, and for a long time, I believed them. But after awhile you learn to ignore the names people call you and... just trust who you are." That for me is the perfect speech and I took it to heart to battle my insecurities that I am still fighting to this day.
Also the nightmare sequence is hilariously twisted
Im Slovenian and 3rd movie is the first one of Shrek movies that was dubbed. And Shrek is done by the absolutely wondeful Dario Vargo and nails it. First two came dubbed like a few years ago but 3rd was the first to be dubbed in the cinema. The dub is hilarious so it saves it bit for me.
The same thing is for Cars 2. I saw it dubbed and I cried from laughter because Gojmir L. Gojc as Mator is absolute gold. When I watched it in english I was disappointed tbh. But dub saved it for me. I have a lot of examples where our dub saved the movie
That's a great part. I don't like the third personally, but I like that scene.
@@adqueen2548 ej slovenski dubi iz konca 2000ih so bili legendarni.
I'm glad someone liked that cliché bullshit.
You know one of *saddest* parts in Shrek 2:
It is subtly implied that the Fairy Godmother was once the all-loving well-meaning granter of wishes and happiness that she is marketed to be. But many years of popularity and power along with the commercialization and mass production of her "product" have changed her into a remorseless manipulator.
Dang… that’s.. idk how to respond
Kinda like Homelander.
In the show of course.
Oh yeah, especially with what they did to Doris, the Ugly Step Sister who is friends with Shrek and Fiona. If you don’t know, prior to it being altered in the past several years, one of the Before and After photo setups in her factory featured Doris as a man with their beauty mark giving away its them and a beautiful woman in the second one. But as we know from the ending, Fairy Godmother will reverse or punish those who fail to follow through on their deals.
I always have a theory that the Fairy Godmother was the one that cursed Fiona to be a Ogre at night
I mean that's what happens in Hollywood all the time which she and the land Far Far Away represented.
The fact that he covered all four Shrek movies in under 30 minutes proves how good Doug is at conveying topics. Can't wait for him to cover the How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy.
Kung Fu Panda would be good too
I like how he actually *reviews* the movies, instead of doing a scene by scene recap, like most youtubers.
@@bluestar5812 you nailed exactly the problem I've seen in lots of reviews. They're just giving summaries instead of reviews! NC does a good job of actually reviewing.
@@NTWoo95 he already did that I e
@@bluestar5812 To be fair the NC in his early days kind of started that lol.
The Finnish dub of the 1st Shrek movie makes Donkey's character absolutely hysterical. The stereotype that Finnish people are loners who love their personal space is very true, so people here really empathize with Shrek and how this sudden noise maker companion just won't leave him alone. Donkey basically breaks every personal space rule, and if you project yourself to Shrek as a Finnish person, you can *really* feel the utter contempt and madness rising from him as he endures Donkey for the first half of the film. Whenever me and my family see Shrek airing on TV, we always laugh our asses of at the part where Donkey starts following Shrek around.
Glad to see fellow Finns here. Jukka Rasila definitely brought his A game with Donkey
Lol i feel for u, Finland 😂
I work with a lot of Finnish metal bands and being a loner myself when I live In America, a country that hates introverts, I feel the most at home when I'm around Finns. Everyone feels like donkey to me.
"We've got a white Bronco heading east into the forest, requesting backup" makes me laugh everytime...
POLICE BRUTALITY, POLICE BRUTALITY!
@@matheusmariani3108 *Sniff Sniff "We got Catnip"
"Thats...err...not mine?"
@@thumpyloudfoot864 and the pepper spray being literally a pepper grinder on Shrek's face is hilarious
The one great problem with Shrek is the fact that it has become the thing it intended to mock, and because it set a trend, it has stopped feeling special and now the traditions it derided and broke away from feel preferable.
I think I'd call that "The Simpsons Syndrome".
Always thought this film was overrated. The hype over it when it came out in 01 was suffocating
@AT Productions Exactly. It became ironic that it mocked Disney's trend of merchandise, overused songs, tons of side characters to sell toys, and awful sequels which the Shrek franchise had the same things. (Minus Shrek 2 being awful.) Like "Yeah, screw Disney with it's God-awful direct to video sequels, we're putting our last two God-awful sequels IN THEATERS!!!!"
That's... Actually a good name!
Ironically, even Disney tried to follow that trend with Chicken Little and, interestingly enough, an early version of Tangled.
Look at the Lost Media Wiki entry for that one. It's a gold mine.
In any case, that's what happens when suits take control.
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster If you're really worried about it, don't sign contracts with major publishers that commit to multiple books in the same series.
That problem is caused by an obligation to be writing for characters for which you're out of ideas.
“Shrek” is a solid PG. I think it and “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” are perfect examples of a PG rating.
When “Shrek” came out, I was 16 and I think it the movie is perfect for teens. It’s a time when you feel like rejecting the innocence of childhood. That’s what this movie does by making fun of fairytales. And, as mentioned, it also has an edge to it. I had never seen a movie like this before.
Fun fact. Jennifer Saunders, the actress who voices the fairy godmother. Is the main actress in the British show- Absolutely Fabulous.
Well spotted, darling
Who doesn't know that, though? Hell, the ONLY reason she's in Shrek 2 is because Ab Fab was one of the maybe four British sitcoms to be successful in America.
@@zbr76 Aye. And two of the actresses in that show were voices in Chicken Run. As well as two (probably one of the same) voiced 2/3rds of the Weird Sisters animation to the Disc World stories. And quite a few of the Ab Fab cast lend voices in the Disney Tinker Bell series I think🤔.
The “somebody better be dying” bit in Shrek the third is pretty well done to me. I remember laughing as much at that as I did throughout Shrek 2. Its really the only part I really remember from the third one.
i thought it was funny.
Shrek 3 is funny in parts, it’s just not funny all the time, which makes it disappointing compared to the first two. Not bad just kind of meh.
@@ToxicTurquoise454 Yes, agreed. The part that always make me laugh is Merlin introduced as a depressed "hippy" has-been. He eats pebbles, he tries to reconnect with nature through some weird real-life bullshit magic stone despite the fact he is actually a powerful wizard, I don't know why, he always cracks me up.
Story wise though, the third one is definitely the weakest, and the rest of the humor is definitely hit or miss, while in the other Shrek movies it's pretty much always funny.
For me the 3rd one is ok in english. But slovenian dub?! I can watch it right now and CRY of laughter. It is done so well, the comedic timing is perfect, writing amazing and hilarious all the way
i think this one is funnier when your older bc merlin part was really boring to me. havent rewatched this one in years but the frog king dying at that point is funnier now then when it was just felt like a miss before bc people were saying it was "distasteful" and when your younger you kinda just agree to shit that youve been watching on youtube and stuff when I saw reviews for this movie.
I think its official that the shrek movies have not only made an impact on dreamworks but have also made an impact on society as well
The franchise is like an onion, something so layered in nuances and complexity, it's contribution to society will forever be remembered for centuries to come
@@ShadowAshe Accurate💯💯
I firmly believe movies are before and after Shrek
I mean, it was a big fat dump on Disney movies, and pointing out the real point of "real love got nothing to do with looking pretty, its okay to be ugly, there's more to people than what's on the surface"
It was a sledgehammer to the mirror, provoking people by being unpologetic degusting in your face, but in the best ways possible, and by doing so also being so much more real.
Like Disney movies makes it look like you need to be born with perfect looks only the 1% can have, if you ever want a "happy ever after"
Even if not there intention, it was just nice to have a sticky fat adding contrast to the room full of nothing but prefect smells.
@@MouseGoat THIS🙏
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that thought the 2nd movie was the best one.
I still rewatch it every so often to this day. Its damn near perfect.
The second one was a very special movie
Same
I'd say 1 and 2 are tied. 4 is a quite close second (apparently many dislike it, and I just don't get that at all) and 3...3 is bad.
@@grabble7605 4 is better than 3 at least
@Jared Jams 3 was eh...but needed somewhat of a different plot
The Holding Out For a Hero scene is unironically one of the greatest climaxes in cinematic history. It is incredible.
Kindly explain how the fuck it could be ironically great.
@@grabble7605 an man(ogre) riding a giant gingerbread man is storming a castle with fairy tales. Without the song definitely ironically great, but with the song it is unironically great.
The second movie will always be my favourite. The jokes are fresher, and have held up more, in my opinion, and I always laugh, no matter how many times I've seen it.
The scene in the potion factory is the best
@@chasehedges6775 Yeah, that was such a great scene! That, and Fairy Godmother singing "I Need a Hero".
@@somerandolad 💯💯. The song in the end credits is the best.
I completely agree!
@@somerandolad one of my favorite climaxes! “Not the gum drop button!”
I knew the world would roll me but I didn't expect Critic to do it.
😂😂😂👍👍. Just perfect
Yep, we all know that he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed! 😉
....now I got the damn song stuck in my head
@@ChannelAwesome It’s iconic
@@ChannelAwesome Ya gotta love it!
Shrek 2 also earns points for the home media release having Far Far Away Idol, with the various characters from the film performing thematically appropriate songs for them (such as Pinocchio doing Mr Roboto or Puss in Boots doing These Boots Were Made for Walking) while Shrek, Fiona and Simon Cowell give pun filled feedback. The Big Bad Wolf singing Duran Duran with the three little pigs doing back up has to be seen to be believed.
Dude I remember watching those bonus features so many times 😂 loved the Simon Cowell cameo
Speaking of dark moments, there's a detail where there is a bear family with 3 bears at first then at Shrek's swamp there's only 2, and then they show what happened to the missing bear in Farquad's room, that took over a decade for people to find it shows how much relevance it comes with the times.
To summarise;
1 is a classic, 2 is the perfect sequel, there was no third movie, 4 is grossly underrated.
And puss in Boots is awesome as well
Agreed, they just skipped from 2 to 4, no one can convince me otherwise!
I actually liked the third movie. The fourth movie is terrible tho.
@@Dorian_Scott Both movies are meh
Perfect description.
I like that Shrek 2 is more family friendly but also gets to be more funny, the animation holds up better, and they still keep the same moral but told on another level.
The occasion that a sequel surpasses the first film is something to be extremely proud of, since it is such a rare occurrence. Yet Shrek 2 has outdone the first movie 110%, everything is better like you said.
The only other films I can think of that I've personally seen are Ep5: Empire Strikes Back and Terminator 2: Judgement Day
(Aliens doesn't count because it's action, not horror; great film, love it, different genre from the first so it doesn't count).
I don’t think it’s more family friendly.
Honestly I think Shreks dynamic with Arthur in the 3rd one really just works. They both grew up as outcasts isolated from their peers. They bond and form a genuine friendship. They also are kind of funny.
i dont know what it is about the whole "i need a hero" scene from shrek 2 but when the music actually kicks in and it cuts to shrek on mongos shoulder, i get the goosebumps.
pretty sure its just my primate brain feeling nostalgic about watching 1&2 on VHS
The Spanish dub of Shrek 2 is so absolutely funny. The jokes are different, and Eugenio Derbez is fantastic as Burro (Donkey). Antonio Banderas does both languages!
Ya entendí no soy burro, lo que pasa es que me aburro
@@cristhianmunoz7025 como estuvo tu vieja? Digo tu viaje?
Doesn't he also provided the voice of Puss in the Italian dub, too? I remember hearing that somewhere, just haven't gotten around to confirming it myself.
I love how Fairy Godmother looks like your usual benevolent Disney fae but has the personality of the capricious and cruel folkloric fae.
True. That said, there are folkloric fae that are less cruel than the fairy godmother.
Yes. Another details is in the scene when shrek invades the godmother's factory and spill the portion of transformation, and the enemies transforms in objects like THE BEAUTY AND THE BEST, showing us how much psychopath faries can be... I don't know if this joke is intencional or not.
Do you think the three fairies in Sleeping Beauty fairytale wouldnt like Fairy Godmother?
@@matrix91234 I think so, considering how judgemental this Fairy Godmother is to other non-humans.
One thing that kind of bites about movies like this is that, when they come out, there’s a crap ton of copycats that try to imitate the original without knowing what made it work. A prime example of this is Chicken Little
The second and fourth are my favorite. One of my favorite moments of the fourth is that True Love's Kiss doesn't work because Fiona doesn't know or love him. It doesn't work until he's dying and Fiona realizes, after having spent time with him, that she loves him.
Plus, the second introduced my favorite character, Puss in Boots played by one of my favorite actors, Antonio Banderas!
My ranking
1. Shrek 2
2. Shrek
3. Shrek forever after
4. Shrek the third
That's most people's rankings of the Shrek franchise ...lol
Exactly
Yeah, I heard 3 sucked. But 4 made up for it. That was the samething with American Pie. The 3rd one (Wedding) was weak, but the 4th one (Reunion) made up for it
847592. Shrek the musical
It’s about time. Schaffrillas is usually the only guy I see talk about this franchise. Now I can finally see Critic’s reactions!!😁😁😁
I honestly wanted to see him and the critic talk about these movies together.
@@johngoodman8954
Yes that would be. Awesome!!😎😎
Love schaffrilas
I feel like his reviews on these movies are way better than the NC's ones. He REALLY goes into depth into each film, and I agree with him more.
@@johngoodman8954 Not likely to happen Schaffrillas shit talks Doug quiet a lot despite the fact he is slowly turning into him
It really has become a tradition that Doug has to bring up something about PG back then vs now.
PG really means something now. They say god and hell in Incredibles 2.
@@Cartman254 PG has been meaning something man. Spaceballs came out in 1987 after the PG-13 was implemented and it was PG even tho there was a lot of sh*ts and assh*les said in it. Also had one f**k in it. There was so much cussing in it that for years I was only allowed to watch the edited for TV version, I rented it from Blockbluster when I first watched it and neither me nor my parents knew it would have a lot of cussing in it. Honestly PG movies have gotten softer because I was just watching the scene in Prince of Egypt depicting the death of firstborn children and I don't recall the last time I saw a scene that gutsy in a family film. It wasn't graphic but they didn't sugercoat NOTHIN, as a kid the scene disturbed me but that's the point you're sympathizing with Moses at that point so they want you to feel how he feels
I like to be fair tho so I'll say I'm out of the demographic for a lot of new PG family films so if any new films captures the essence of what made classic family films so great and someone wants to share a film title I would greatly appreciate it!!
The thing about the Shrek franchise is that it started as a big "F you" to Disney, which is effectively why everyone is so crude. It was such a passion project that they allowed Myers to rerecord his lines several times to really nail down Shrek's voice. The 4 films together have been described as the stages of romantic/marital life: the "unworthy" bachelor finding love, having to deal with in-laws and rivals, grappling with new responsibilities, and the midlife crisis. I've also heard it described as the stages of Dreamworks's growth as a company: its startup finding success, establishing itself amongst its competitors, dealing with the new weight of being one of the top animation studios, and a now mainstream studio grappling with how to maintain their original spark.
Pre-90's Disney is a billion times better than Shrek. There's no need for children to hear sex jokes and jokes about animal cruelty.
@@Siegfried5846 They don't even understand the sex jokes, bruh. And animal cruelty is in dozens of cartoons already?
@@SukiNoKoe I understood more than what I was supposed to because of movies and TV. We shouldn't promote bad values to children, or they'll grow up to do evil in the world.
@@Siegfried5846 Nobody is going to be able to convince me that letting a kid watch Shrek will make them evil. lmao you must be fun at parties. :|
@@SukiNoKoe Do you think it is better for children NOT to see animal abuse or to SEE animal abuse?
16:11, the primary antagonist of the second movie was Fairy Godmother rather than Prince Charming and I don’t believe for a second that Charming (as characterized in Shrek 2) would take Fairy Godmother’s death lying down or would blame anyone but Shrek. So I would actually defend Prince Charming as the villain of Shrek 3
Problem is that the whole point of Prince Charming is that he is quite pathetic and mostly just a showman (and a bad one, at that). So him becoming a legit threat in his own right and somehow convincing rogue characters to follow his lead is a bit hard to believe.
@@wjzav1971 I can live with it
@@wjzav1971 To be fair, he still is pathetic; that's the reason he recruits a bunch of fairy tale villains as minions.
@@matthewmuir8884 But shouldn't it be the other way around though? Shouldn't Charming be the Fairy Tale Villains' bitch?
@@wjzav1971 …That could've been interesting; if they basically installed him as a puppet king while they did what they wanted.
If I remember correctly, the movie did justify Charming making those villains his minions by basically showing him manipulate them onto his side in a way very reminiscent of his mother's manipulations.
It's cool knowing that the main director of the first two films, Andrew Adamson, also did the first two Narnia movies. Showing he has an understanding of grand epic, and personal storytelling and can satirize it just as well that anyone can get hooked. Really waiting for his comeback someday.
If you think about it, both films started with a bang, only to whimper off once they had became established franchises.
@@kylejohnson423 that might also be because Adamson left both franchises after their second installments which to be fair if you have that many hits under your name as a rookie director i don't blame him for wanting to take a break
@@Charles12 yeah, quit while you're ahead and all that
The Shrek movies were great the first one was like no other combining fairytales with adult entertainment but also good for the kids. The second expanded on that with more pop culture references and a very good story and musical number it seems like the first two movies were part one and part two of a complete story. The third Shrek movie was kind of shaky but the fourth kind of completed the story of Shrek’s identity and redeemed it. All in all it’s a nice quadrilogy for the first decade of the 2000s.
Shrek 4 wasn't funny tho, it was too depressing for me. Me and a lot of fans got into Shrek for the comedy not the typical sad Hollywood shit lol
Dude, i have watched you, pretty much since the beginning. Feels like at least 15 years, but I'm not sure. Anyways, i think the best part of every video you do, is your summary at the end. You tie everything together regardless of whether it's a good or bad movie. You always seem to pull something good out of everything you critique... Thank you for the years and years of being an original reactor and giving knowing fans many punchlines and retorts. Naturally, you do it, so we don't have to.
Lloyd: "I auditioned for Puss in Boots once."
Chaplin: "I thought you'd make a perfect Shrek."
So happy Doug likes Shrek 2. It's my all time favourite Shrek movie as well. I always watch it. It's just sooo funny, and Puss in such a great addition. And that final climatic rush to the castle to "I Need A Hero" is so emotionally and energetically charged, gets me every time. Love the jokes in this one WAY more than the first one, and I find the character arc is really good
I like the theory that Donkey is just one of the naughty boys that got turned into a donkey at Pleasure Island but never lost the ability to talk. I mean it’s 100% possible because Pinocchio exists in this series so Pleasure Island and the Coachman does too.
“Do you think maybe he’s compensating for something?”
That actually can have a double meaning.
@A Catalan Liam Like an EXTREMELY clear one. Like, a joke that would only fly over the heads of elementary kids. If that.
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster Then youre quite the sheltered little child. I knew what it meant when it came out when i was like 8.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 It seems more obvious that he's referring to Farquaad's height, which is probably why they managed to get it past the censors.
@@idot3331 Thats why its called a _DOUBLE_ meaning. Cartoons use it all the time to get past censors.
@@idot3331 He isn't referring to his height?
ono
The second one is what all sequels should strive for, it added to the story of the main characters well, while doing a good job world building and introducing new characters. The second one will always be my favorite :) but I also love the first one too haha
Kung Fu Panda 2 is another example of a sequel being even better than the first one, also done by Dreamworks.
This sequel is what all true warriors strive for.
The sequel is an amazing piece of cinema.
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I love how Doug described the Shrek franchise so beautifully. I was 7 when the first one came out and I`m grateful that I grew up with these films. Hope he reviews the Puss In Boots movie one day.
I was 14 when it came out and the hype over it was suffocating
I was 10 and the hype was just about right.
My whole family went with me to the theater and watched the first Shrek movie and we loved it
He says it ended on an Ok note with Forever After, but then we got the holiday specials, Puss in boots, then Puss in boots the last wish
Honestly, I never thought of the onion thing as funny. It always struck me as a legitimate outlook. When donkey says that not everyone likes onions, my reaction remains the same as it was when I first saw it: That's the point.
Not everyone likes onions, and not everyone likes ogres. They both have more beneath the surface, but not everyone can see it or otherwise don't always like what's there. It may seem like a small scene, but to me it's so much more than that.
*This.* It's not really supposed to be funny (except for Donkey's reactions) and it's part of the movie's message.
@@vilmublues752 Precisely! ^_^
@@vilmublues752 Agreed!
It can be be funny and true at the same time. If you wanted to go even deeper, you could say that donkey’s derailment of his point, though humorous, actually might have been a better comparison. A parfait also has layers but they’re not all layers of the same thing. They’re various elements that come together to make the delicious whole that it is. And not every parfait has the same layers as another. That said, I still laughed. It was a funny scene on several levels.
@@Akane1313 It's not that it can't be funny in addition to being true, it's that I personally took it as less comedic and more serious. I think it was intended to be funny while still making a point, but I don't think it was just a joke alone is all I'm saying.
Fun fact: Chris Farley was originally up for the role of Shrek before he died.
glad they went with Mike Meyers.
It very sad Chris Farley passed away. Mike Meyers would have support him and respect him. If he still alive they would make clone Shrek
I was born the same year that Shrek came out and saw Shrek 2 hundreds of times when it came out as a kid, and I think you nailed it. I just turned 21 the other day and I didn't realize until I watched this video just how much the first two movies shaped my humor and my morals. Both have such great messages about not only loving and appreciating how others look/act, but also about loving yourself. Much like the titular character, the Shrek movies are often belittled, for flooding western animation with adult humor and pop culture references. But, under the surface, there's something really formative and special about Shrek as a character and a movie. They're great movies for kids because they're smart and treat them like they're smart too.
I have always enjoyed these movies, especially for how much they ripped Disney apart at the time. They felt kind of like fairytale versions of Mel Brooks comedies
The first Shrek was sort of like a bonding movie my mother and I used to watch over and over again. Sometimes we'd even reenact scenes just to make each other laugh. The franchise is definitely close to my heart. 💚
The second one is nearly everyone’s favorite of the series and I could argue has more significance at least with memes
Like what memes?
@@theawesomeman9821 mainly on tik tok or those are the ones that come to mind
It's not my favourite personally
@@masterknife8423 fair enough it doesn’t have to be just because it’s mine as long as you’re not harming anyone like what you like
I think that "third act breakup due to the misheard words" works because it's not just a simple misheard. This situation as a whole stems from Shrek's and Fiona's insecurities. It's not as much about miscommunication, as about them mistreating themselves, looking at themselves only as at monsters. Fiona is not willing to accept herself, hiding the truth even from someone she can relate to, thinking that she wouldn't be accepted for who she is. And Shrek instantly perceives Fiona's words as his characteristic, without even questioning it, because in his eyes that's exactly who he is without any variants. This situation just wouldn't happen if their mindsets and self-images were better. Fiona wouldn't be so focused on hiding the truth and both of them would be more willing to ask questions, instead of instantly jumping to conclusions. And even the resolution of this situation is not them finding the truth (I mean, the moment of them explaining themselves to each other is not even shown in the movie), but just moving forward as an individuals, dealing with the mentioned insecurities and making the right decisions.
I will say this once, and only once. Shrek is a movie first, and a parody second. It will focus on having its own identity, and then tell jokes from there. Sure, it was a revenge project against Disney, but it was also an attempt for DreamWorks to be its own entity. If it was nothing but parodies and satire, like Critic's saying about the first film, it wouldn't have that impact that brings us back. Just look at Scary Movie and Epic Movie.
It still shocks me how well Shrek 1 and 2 hold up after all these years. And the others... Well they exist.
agreed though i think 4 was pretty good.
I honestly like the third and fourth movies
Man. I don’t think they hold up AT ALL. That’s the problem when your movies jokes are pop culture references. The movie feels so dated in a way Pixar movies just never do. I rewatched Shrek last year and was shocked at how bland & dated it felt.
@@MrGittz That’s an entirely fair and legitimate thing to think. But that kind of thing never bothered me at all
@@ddjsoyenby I never saw 3 or 4 but I heard that 3 sucked and 4 made up for it. That’s the samething that happened with American Pie… the 3rd one (Wedding) was pretty weak, but the 4th one (Reunion) was a good make up for it
"Nostalgia Critic is love.
Nostalgia Critic is life."
Same goes for Shrek.
Oh no...
Now in that video, Shrek is replaced with Doug Walker
Puss in Boots became my favorite character from this Franchise (Antonio Banderas was riding high on the Zorro movies at the time) and I liked the Puss in Boots spin-off better than the last 2 actual Shrek movies. I'm hoping the Puss in Boots sequel is good, from the trailer it seems promising and I like the new animation style that kind of looks like the Bad Guys with it's stylized 2D/3D hybrid look.
If Shrek 5 would be anything like Puss In Boots The Last Wish, I think it would be worth doing.
I find it interesting how the majority of animated films before Shrek were rated G. After Shrek, the majority of animated films I've seen are rated PG. And I think that was due to Shrek.
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Actually, I always thought the Fairy Godmother is secretly the "witch" who cursed Fiona in the first place. Think about it; first she makes King Harold owe her big time by transforming him into a human (as implied when she threatens him to revert the effect) thus allowing him to marry a princess (queen Lillian) and therefore becoming the king of Far Far Away. Then, she (secretly) curses Fiona causing her to be locked in the tower until the day her true love (Prince Charming, if everything goes as planned) arrives to save her. When that happens the Fairy Godmother can simply lift the spell and have her son be next in line to the throne of Far Far Away (and this would be a cynical explanation to why the kiss at the end of the first Shrek didn´t have any noticeable effect on Fiona...). So all the time, the Fairy Godmother was plotting the conquest of Far Far Away!
That theory has been around for so long we might as well consider it canon.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that!
A fairy godmother and witch are two completely different things, and the fact that Fiona said "witch" specifically should already debunk that theory. It's not like she was a kid and didn't know the difference.
@@sarahsims6164 Just because it's a theory, doesn't make it true.
What about the reality where Shrek never existed? Fiona escaped on her own and joined an ogre rebellion. Charming most likely died by the dragon when trying to rescue Fiona.
The biggest issue I had with Forever After is how Shrek misses the days when he was a “real ogre”. That doesn’t make sense to me because in the first movie, he expresses how sad he gets when the world seems to have a problem with him and judge him before they get to know him.
It's not too much of a stretch. The stress of fatherhood made him yearn for a bygone part of his life before he felt lonely. Even though that part of his life never existed.
It's called being a complainer.
People often look back on the past with rose tinted nostalgia glasses even if it wasn't all that great. Especially if they're currently going through a difficult time.
Grass is always greener in another pasture. It was not like he wanted it to become permanent, he was just looking for a break or vacation from his current problems. He just missed some of the perks he had when he was a bachelor.
I think the 4 is pretty deep. It doesn't have so much humor as the others, but has the deepest moments, Shrek crying for the first time in his life, one of the most beautiful phrases "I got the chance of falling in love with you all over again", the heartbreaking kiss of the end, the almost death of shrek. Good review!
Also... Day Sixty three: Please review triplettes oof Belleville
I still think that onions rant Shrek had in the first film is just something Mike Myers says on a good day
You know I’m kind of glad Eddie Murphy is having a career resurgence because for a while he was making some really bad films
Like that?
The Nutty Professor movies are pure cringe! When I look at what Murphy starred in, during the 80's, and everything he has done between 1990, and "Shrek," all I can do is just shake my head. Murphy's career, for about a decade there, fell off a freaking CLIFF!!
@@jacob4920 that's certainly a take
You trying to say the best movie of all time, Norbit, is bad?
@@ninjanibba4259 the haunted mansion which while i like it enough everything bad is a result of eddy murphy it would of been so much better whiteout him other bad movies are Norbit pluto nash the nutty professor had a mix of bad and good and honostly there are plenty i am not listing as i do not watch many movies specially comedy movies
My mom has told me on multiple occasions that I was obsessed with watching the first Shrek as a baby. I'm surprised she even allowed me to watch at all, but I'm glad she did.
The mother bear at the start of the first Shrek being turned into a rug was a dark thing that I don’t think most kids or adults noticed.
From my side of Europe I can say this: This movie has an amazing polish dub that changed a lot of the dialog and that's why it's loved in Poland. A lot of jokes are made native to our popculture. I never even seen the full film in it's original version, and I usually watch everything in it's native language with subtitles.
Yeah, the Latin American dub is legendary over here too!
To quote the late great Norm Macdonald and something Shrek maybe thinks about is “You ever be having a really good dream and then uh- right in the middle of the dream you wake up, right in the best part of the dream?”
Fiona turning into an ogre seems like a "change of the cover", if you count the Beast's transformation as one
Seeing Saunders from Ab-Fab, and The actor who voiced Prince Charming from “My Best Friend’s Wedding, as well as John Cleese…. Completely an example of perfect cast of Star-studded characters straight outta Britain 🥰
Oh come on each of these movies deserve a full length review of their own, however I still love you finally giving a review to this fantastic franchise.
Loved the Shrek franchise. Thanks for your review NC.
Fun fact (not sure if everyone knows this): Shrek was supposed to be voiced by Chris Farley. His appearance was even based off of Farley and Farley even provided a few voice clips. Unfortunately he died before film production and they replaced him with Mike Myers. Imagine if Shrek was voiced by Chris Farley if he was still alive.
The bit where Shrek tells Fiona he wishes he hadn't saved her would have worked if we saw him realize what he'd said and regret it. That would have made it easier to root for him because it would show us how bad he feels about it.
Except we see that he does regret it when he cries while holding Felicia’s doll or when he’ll tells Donkey “I didn’t know what I had before it was gone”
@@Animestar21 That's not until much later though, and that's when he realises just what he has lost now that it is gone. This scene has Shrek acting way too much like a selfish jerk for us to be rooting for him.
@@MrThischarmingman2 did you know? People can be jerks when under intense stress and say stuff they don’t mean or will regret later
The 1st movie was good, but it lost some of it's edge due to how many times it was over-played.
The 2nd movie was actually a bit better than the 1st, and the comedy definitely the best in the franchise! (Antonio Banderas voicing Puss-in-Boots, and then getting frisked for catnip by Knights always gets a laugh!)
The 3rd movie wasn't bad, but it was started the eventual downward trend for the franchise.
The 4th movie, again, wasn't bad, but it's alternate timeline cliche' was about as overused as you could get.
Shrek 2 is still a masterpiece of a sequel!
Fairy Godmother is the absolute best
Indeed
Agreed. It's honestly the best in the series.
@@Dorian_Scott 💯💯
While on the topic of Shrek, are we ever gonna get a review for Hoodwinked? That mid 2000s movie that saw what Shrek was doing and was like "Hey, I can do that." Feels like a perfect Nostalgia Critic review movie.
We need Hoodwinked! and Ice Age reviews
@@NPC1921 Agreed about Ice Age reviews! I'd love to see him do an retrospective on the Ice Age series, or simply on Ice Age 1, because I think that movie is the best one is the whole franchise! (And way way way too underrated ;;)
God, Hoodwinked was such a fun movie!
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But Hunchback of Notre Dame is the complete opposite of contradict the original message, it's the most authentic there is
As soon as I heard that little clip of the Shrek theme at 1:50 I felt like dropping everything and going back and watching the movie(s) again.
11:01 I love how NC just forgot he still had 3 more left to talk about. Like he had the same memory loss as Dory from Finding Nemo. 😅
I knew I wasn’t the only one that loves the “I need a hero” performance
I think the reason why I loved - and still do - love Shrek soo much is because I didn't expect anything going into the movie. Plus, I was also 9 years old. I think it still remains relevant even with Gen Z today because they enjoy a lot of random humor that doesn't necessarily need to make any sense at all, and Shrek was the perfect movie for that as well. I am still pleasantly surprised how many people love it and still continue to meme it even today, and I always manage to find those memes funny. Maybe I just get Shrek in general, or I'm very easy to amuse.
*Shrek 2 Still one the Greatest sequels of Animation,parody and Movie industry History.⭐*
I definitely enjoyed the films, but it pains me to see how much they’ve censored for the tv airings now. They’ve cut a lot of jokes, including a Police Brutality Joke, the joke by Charming about the Wolf being “gender confused” for being dressed like the grandma, swears being cut out, the saving my ass joke was cut, swapped voice actors for certain segments, changed background details like the Before and After of the Ugly Step sister in Fairy Godmother’s factory showing that they were originally a happily ever after case of a guy becoming a woman until they tried changing their decision and ended up as they are, and so on.
Yeesh. Which channels did that?
@@louisduarte8763 Cartoon Network, Disney, and Nickelodeon.
@@hiddendesire3076 All owned by DreamWorks/Universal's competitors, so that fits.
After all that is cut out, is there any movie left? It would only be a 5 minute movie without all those!
Voice actors were swapped? Which ones?
And did this effect the TBS airings?
See these films are why I’m glad Austin Powers only lasted 3 films because with too many sequels it can kill a films charm
it's also why if people say "a TV series that ended too quickly" I promise you it didn't. Sometimes, it's best to either leave on a perfect note, or leave people wanting more.
@@KingRandor82 Acceleracers ended too quickly. Danny Phantom, ATLA, and The Sopranos ended just right. Fairly Odd Parents, One Piece, Naruto, The Simpsons, and Dr. Who have been running a bit too long :(
As a kid who saw Shrek in theaters and basically spent the rest of the 2000s watching it endlessly, The sex jokes completely went over my head! I knew the line “He must be compensating for something” but I had no idea what it meant and I was very sheltered and innocent 😂 it makes me wonder if a lot if other kids were as well and this is why we thought of it as a “kids movie” for so long. I definitely enjoyed it as a kid of course but I feel like I find a lot of it much funnier now because I actually get the jokes and not all the jokes are exactly kid friendly 😂. It’s just funny how we can be exposed to adult material but completely miss it as kids
4:00 Ogres are like onions isn't supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be revealing of how Shrek views himself as having layers but also less desirable than other foods. Donkey is constantly trying to compare Ogres to something more desirable like cake or parfait, but Shrek insists that Ogres are like onions. He doesn't want to be viewed as something "desirable" he wants to be viewed as what he thinks he is: an onion.
This ties into the theme of the movie of Shrek being okay with himself and not trying to be a "cake" or a "parfait".
It also shows how Shrek sucks at making metaphors
In a way that adds to his character
Shrek feels like that drunk father you loved at first but then several years later you started to hate
Or that drunk stepdad you loved at first but got tired of years later
Shrek was the movie that killed Disney’s dominance in animated movies in the 2000s! As someone that was all grown up when Shrek came out, it appealed to adults who were into both Mike Myers and Eddie Murphy! It was popular among college aged students with the Shrek memes, which my friends were obsessed with!
Well, Disney has gotten it back. Buying up a lot of the competition (though still not Dreamworks, thank goodness) probably helped. But, it's possible that films like Shrek pushed Disney to start trying again, so that doesn't take away from Shrek's legacy.
@@albatross1779 because Dreamworks took shots at Disney, and it forced Disney to make better animated movies since their movies like Shrek, Madagascar, Wallace and Gromit, Kung Fu Panda were beating Chicken Little, The Wild, Bolt. The rivalry between Disney and Dreamworks in the 2000s, helped Disney to fix their mistakes with multiple animated failures!
@@Markimark151 True. It took Disney some time to once again nail their formula.
@@albatross1779 because their management realized their animated movies weren’t impressive and they hired people who knew better comedy!
I actually love the "Someone better be dying" ... "I'm dying"
I really think Doug's, and the crew's, best work is these analytical videos, whether he does or doesn't like them. He definitely knows his shit.
For Shrek The Third:
Franchise Killer: DreamWorks Animation had plans for five movies in the Shrek film series. Shrek was the first animated film to win the newly coined Academy Award for Best Animated Feature in 2001, over Monsters, Inc. and Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius. Shrek 2 was nominated for the award and lost to The Incredibles, but it became not just the highest grossing film of 2004 but DreamWorks' most successful film to date. Shrek the Third, while also a box office success, grossed less than Shrek 2, got mixed to negative reviews from critics and wasn't even considered for Best Animated Feature of 2007. The lukewarm reception to Shrek the Third led DreamWorks to finish up the well under development Shrek Goes Fourth, which was retitled Shrek Forever After and became the de facto final movie, ending the series at four. The fifth movie, under the working title Shrek Pleads the Fifth was turned into a prequel film about Puss In Boots. Any hopes of a fifth movie somehow coming out of limbo were dashed when DreamWorks was sold to Universal, who after floating the idea decided to give the franchise a full-blown Continuity Reboot, overseen by Illumination Entertainment's Chris Meledandri.
I still think that Gingerbread scene is still one of the scariest scenes ever
I will forever stand by Shrek the third being hilarious. I understand it's not as good as say, Shrek 2, but I quote that movie so often in my life