The ''green blue sludge'' here is the result of electrochemistry in action. Adding the salt provides Chlorine Cl- and Na+ ions to the water to carry the charge which increases the reaction rate by allowing a current to flow from the battery. It is ionic and elemental copper Cu2+ and Cu being formed due to the flow of electrons through the conductive salt solution (essentially shorting the battery and corroding the anode terminal). Basically electrolysis is occurring at the copper battery terminals + - where positive (anode) Cu wire oxidizes giving up 2 electrons 2e- to from Cu2+ . Another reaction taking place on anode is two Cl- ions oxidizing loosing 2e- and forms Cl2 gas. Cu2+ formed on anode dissolves into solution migrating and regains 2e- on the cathode to from Cu metallic copper. This causes it to be deposited onto the cathode. over time the anode will fully oxidize away and reform onto the cathode. Na+ gains e- from negative cathode terminal to then form NaOH from H+ and OH- ions naturally in the water. By all means though corrections are more than welcome if you chemistry better or have anything to add.
I have a lipo battery like that . Not as swollen as yours but you can feel a slight swell when held in hand. My question is how do I know if it's still good to keep using . I bought it new about 4 years ago and used it a few times. Than I put it storage. Just decided to fly my drone today and noticed battery slight puffy. How do know if it's still safe to use ??
AMDcore have explained that green dos not mean the battery is safe to handle. its just the chemical reaction but the battery could still have juice in it. though, I suggest to not cut the wire as you suggested and did but to test the battery after it comes out preferably with voltmeter so you can clean the leads from salts. submerging a blown battery in a salted water might cause it to float so the idea is the salt have to be touching both positive and negative to discharge. the inside of the lipo battery is enclosed and salt dos not get into it at all even if its submerged unless if its open/Brocken. after measuring its completely discharge then you can cut the wire if you need them one at the time just precaution. LIPO battery is like dead snake .. you do not know when it will hit you. do it outside in open space so you do not breath the poison gases or loose your home from its fire.
It takes longer than 3 days I put a 3s 5400mah battery in salt water and after 3 days it was still releasing bubbles from the cut cable. Then I punctured it and still had a reacton. A small one but there was still a small charge and there was a lil bit of smoke and such
This will bring the charge down, but the saver way is to use a light. The green is copper from the wire, salt water reaction, and polarity interaction. Not the best way to discharge. If you have LiPO inside, keep them in a metal box and a cool dry location. Do not overcharge, do not over deplete the charge.
Do you keep your lipo's in your house I'm getting into the hobby and the only place I have to keep the batts are in my house I live in Maine and it's to cold out side any tips would be greatly appreciated tha ks
I tried it 2 weeks later still charged how can water get in to neutralize it if it's full of compressed gas, connect it to a low wattage bulb take it to zero volts then leave it connected 24 hrs check it is zero when disconnected twist the red and black together now it's safe to dispose of.
As said below , Battery still uncontaminated , just discharged thru the salt water making clorine water mix just like science lab ,yumm.... ,don,t drink!!! large power resistor with high enough value to limit current less messy .
I did this on my first try on my Traxxas 6700 4s lipo battery, but if I leave it outside, and my tio tells me not to let it outside while the sun shines, and my house has no large spots to disposal my lipo battery if it puffed or not used
STOP recommending this method, it does NOTHING. The salty water is not conductive enough to discharge them. Better hook the battery to a small DC motor or a light bulb to discharge it completely.
fireworks! ..and that's how you unsafely discharge a lipo! ..from our point of view we saw that coming a mile away! "don't cut the black and red...don't cut the red!
I disagree, to fix a puffy lipo you can poke it with a pin and it will deflate Just joking, but on a serious note I've had lipos 4+ years old still going strong... what made this one puff after only a year man
Not a solution. This is electrolysis, & salt water is a poor conductor. At best, this method will only corrode the leads enough to keep them from shorting. It should be put under load until discharged. And while the water isn't harmful, the battery still is & should be recycled.
i don't think anything was extracted. what you did was an accelerated corrosion (that's the green stuff...same as can be found on unprotected automotive battery terminals), which shorted the battery and drained it to 0 volts. All toxic components are still inside.
LØx Shansway I have one to. I’ve been using it to and it works just fine. I just don’t want this thing to blow up she catch fire one day. Your saying that it didn’t burn, mine has t either so....🤷🏿♂️
LØx Shansway Exactly. Iv'e had over 5 that have been swollen up for over 8 years. They are no more of a fire hazard than any other LiPo. Those are facts. I laugh how peop[e will pass along what they've heard as though it's fact. Ha ha
@@joshgreer1468i know it's been 4 years so I don't expect an answer, but if anyone does happen to read this, how did your swollen batteries from that time end up? Very keen to hear if they continued to hold up or if any of y'all had any combustion. :)
The ''green blue sludge'' here is the result of electrochemistry in action. Adding the salt provides Chlorine Cl- and Na+ ions to the water to carry the charge which increases the reaction rate by allowing a current to flow from the battery. It is ionic and elemental copper Cu2+ and Cu being formed due to the flow of electrons through the conductive salt solution (essentially shorting the battery and corroding the anode terminal). Basically electrolysis is occurring at the copper battery terminals + - where positive (anode) Cu wire oxidizes giving up 2 electrons 2e- to from Cu2+ . Another reaction taking place on anode is two Cl- ions oxidizing loosing 2e- and forms Cl2 gas. Cu2+ formed on anode dissolves into solution migrating and regains 2e- on the cathode to from Cu metallic copper. This causes it to be deposited onto the cathode. over time the anode will fully oxidize away and reform onto the cathode. Na+ gains e- from negative cathode terminal to then form NaOH from H+ and OH- ions naturally in the water. By all means though corrections are more than welcome if you chemistry better or have anything to add.
AMDcore1 Ok, watered.
Had a LARGE PROBLEM at hand with ballooned rc batteries.....
Found this vid and saved my day.
Thank you for sound advice tech tip.
I have a lipo battery like that . Not as swollen as yours but you can feel a slight swell when held in hand. My question is how do I know if it's still good to keep using . I bought it new about 4 years ago and used it a few times. Than I put it storage. Just decided to fly my drone today and noticed battery slight puffy. How do know if it's still safe to use ??
AMDcore have explained that green dos not mean the battery is safe to handle. its just the chemical reaction but the battery could still have juice in it. though, I suggest to not cut the wire as you suggested and did but to test the battery after it comes out preferably with voltmeter so you can clean the leads from salts. submerging a blown battery in a salted water might cause it to float so the idea is the salt have to be touching both positive and negative to discharge. the inside of the lipo battery is enclosed and salt dos not get into it at all even if its submerged unless if its open/Brocken. after measuring its completely discharge then you can cut the wire if you need them one at the time just precaution. LIPO battery is like dead snake .. you do not know when it will hit you. do it outside in open space so you do not breath the poison gases or loose your home from its fire.
It takes longer than 3 days
I put a 3s 5400mah battery in salt water and after 3 days it was still releasing bubbles from the cut cable. Then I punctured it and still had a reacton. A small one but there was still a small charge and there was a lil bit of smoke and such
This will bring the charge down, but the saver way is to use a light. The green is copper from the wire, salt water reaction, and polarity interaction. Not the best way to discharge.
If you have LiPO inside, keep them in a metal box and a cool dry location. Do not overcharge, do not over deplete the charge.
Good job. Would be nice to see it punched now to test if all chemicals have been neutralized. Maybe also dismantle it and check out the cells make up.
Greta video! What do u do w/ water after ? Is it poisonous for yard?
water is just fine. no chemicals were leeched from those batteries.
@@nonperishables5870 kool thnx
Do you keep your lipo's in your house I'm getting into the hobby and the only place I have to keep the batts are in my house I live in Maine and it's to cold out side any tips would be greatly appreciated tha ks
One thicc battery
hi guys, the greatest results that I have ever had was with the Magic Mender Wizard (just google it) without a doubt the best info i've followed
@@paolagonzalez2495 nah, I'm good
Ahhhh bs drive a nail thru it and stand back and watch the fire works. Make sure its fully charged of coures lol
That’s the other way but it’s a lot less safe
Isn’t lipo battery and water making a chemical reaction like explosion and fire. I wil remember this method but I need to be 100% if it safe to do it!
Takes longer than 24hrs,can take up to a week or longer,
Sheeshus
I tried it 2 weeks later still charged how can water get in to neutralize it if it's full of compressed gas, connect it to a low wattage bulb take it to zero volts then leave it connected 24 hrs check it is zero when disconnected twist the red and black together now it's safe to dispose of.
You're telling people to twist the negative and positive part of the battery? That's extremely dumb.
@@cwatson42785 did you read the part where he said connected to bulb and make sure zero voltage? Now who's dumb
@@donniebunkerboi9975 😢
Appreciate the 411, very helpful!👍🏼
Yeeeeeeaaaah. You read my mind about saving those wires. I was gonna be pissed if they got thrown away.
I usually leave them a week had one in 3 days and when I punctured it still went off lol I have it in video on my channel
As said below , Battery still uncontaminated , just discharged thru the salt water making clorine water mix just like science lab ,yumm.... ,don,t drink!!! large power resistor with high enough value to limit current less messy .
This video is a life savor
I did this on my first try on my Traxxas 6700 4s lipo battery, but if I leave it outside, and my tio tells me not to let it outside while the sun shines, and my house has no large spots to disposal my lipo battery if it puffed or not used
So it will stay puffed after it has been fully discharged? I did this process but they stayed puffed so I was going to repeat process
Im always throwing my batteries away fully charged and maybe with some gasoline or other flamable stuff that goes in the garbage bin
Thanks a lot I didn't know what to do with my drone batteries
take it to the range at 200yds
STOP recommending this method, it does NOTHING. The salty water is not conductive enough to discharge them. Better hook the battery to a small DC motor or a light bulb to discharge it completely.
No safe place to store batteries.
In the garage, they freeze.
In the house, they might start a fire.
fireworks! ..and that's how you unsafely discharge a lipo! ..from our point of view we saw that coming a mile away! "don't cut the black and red...don't cut the red!
I leep my lipos in safe bags and ammo cans
I disagree, to fix a puffy lipo you can poke it with a pin and it will deflate
Just joking, but on a serious note I've had lipos 4+ years old still going strong... what made this one puff after only a year man
mine went threw the washer and dryer but was already puffing up (im second owner)
Not a solution. This is electrolysis, & salt water is a poor conductor. At best, this method will only corrode the leads enough to keep them from shorting. It should be put under load until discharged. And while the water isn't harmful, the battery still is & should be recycled.
Crappy bbq grille and a brad nailer renders them safe in minutes 😅
Who is they?
😂😂 so now Cooper and Brand are concerned about the Lipo batteries... Man 🤣🤣
Part ll !!!!!!!! show people, open the plastic and the rest Dope.
Thank you for this video, very helpful and good advice
Thanks man !! Great info !! I’ve got one swelling pretty bad in the heat now. No I know what to do with it 👍🏻👍🏻😁
That voice change tho😂🤷♂️
People nvr get straight to the point always gotta throw in useless info nobody wants to hear!!
i don't think anything was extracted. what you did was an accelerated corrosion (that's the green stuff...same as can be found on unprotected automotive battery terminals), which shorted the battery and drained it to 0 volts. All toxic components are still inside.
Lithium and water what a wonderfull mixture :) :) :)
but can u deswell it
Save time, just throw it in the ocean..
You're dumb think bout marine life
Drizzy Williams hahahahaha yeah right😂🤦🏾♂️
Peeps who don,t understand a joke
Lol
Awesome, thanks for this.
disposing 2 of my lipo today
Very informative thanks for posting
Amazing
Can I just use sea water?
yes. regular tap water works too. the salt increases conductivity...that's all it does.
I always do it this way
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you arent cutting all of the wire, the battery would still be good mooron
I know
P_P mobile sucks at replying to another comment...
Patrick Zündel the battery would be fine if still chargable, ur just insulting n00b
Battery still has some charge 9_9
The battery would be able to be charged some before it was in salt water, you rlly think a battery would work still after being in salt water
Thanks man
Not a fire hazard, I’ve had 3 puffed batteries over time and they never burned
LØx Shansway yeah they are
LØx Shansway I have one to. I’ve been using it to and it works just fine. I just don’t want this thing to blow up she catch fire one day. Your saying that it didn’t burn, mine has t either so....🤷🏿♂️
LØx Shansway
Exactly. Iv'e had over 5 that have been swollen up for over 8 years. They are no more of a fire hazard than any other LiPo. Those are facts. I laugh how peop[e will pass along what they've heard as though it's fact. Ha ha
@@joshgreer1468i know it's been 4 years so I don't expect an answer, but if anyone does happen to read this, how did your swollen batteries from that time end up? Very keen to hear if they continued to hold up or if any of y'all had any combustion. :)
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Stupid fkn videos!