Thanks again for this stuff. I've said it before, but this channel is one of the very few places that recreates the old feel of the F1 Rejects site, which sadly is lost to time (mostly).
You can find quite a lot of the pages from F1 Rejects on the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine. I would post a link but it would probably get the message deleted. If you use certain browsers you can save the pages as PDFs :-)
@@AidanMillward Would it be too much of a stretch to get a Motori Moderni video someday? (The Turbo ones - not a ton of info about them. There are a few Turbo engines, like that one, but also the Matra V6TT and Alfa L4TT that there is a dearth of info on...)
I still think it's awesome that Reto Meisel inherited the powertrain and rear wing from Georg's car for his SLK340. Judd power put its mark on me forever when I first saw that white BMW
Wow, I think I spoke this video into existence a few months ago! Great work Aidan, but I'm surprised you didn't mention Judd's biggest win in their history: The 2002 Rolex 24 at Daytona powering a Dallara LMP02 prototype. One of the best sounding cars to grace that track.
Something that wasn't mentioned in the video is Judd is also used with some frequency in hillclimb cars. Probably the most iconic one (and one sim racers can drive on Raceroom - it's also one of the free cars) is Georg Plasa's BMW 134. The Judd in it was a 3.4L V8 that revved to approximately 11.000RPM and produced about 570hp (later iterations of that engine produce more than 600). Unfortunately, that car was short-lived, as Plasa understeered into a hillside and was sadly killed in 2011, the car's first year in competition. Some rumours say the seatbelt mounting points weren't up to standard since his belts didn't hold him in place as intended. What has lived on, however, is its ungodly sound. I've heard many race cars in my life and I'm a through-and-through V12 fan, but that thing makes my hairs stand on end. Look up BMW 134 here and you'll find a few videos of it. That same engine was later also fitted to an SLK dubbed the SLK 340, but the exhaust on that was more tame by comparison. Currently there's also an Alfa 4C that runs a 4 litre variant of that Judd V8 which also can be found on UA-cam. 670hp V8 in a car that weighs 760kg. Hillclimb racing is so nuts and perhaps worth looking into in a future video, since Porsche had a pretty serious hillclimb programme in the 60s and 70s.
So nice to hear that the company is still around. It's saddening sometimes hearing about all the dreamers getting wake-up calls and going backrupt in the 90s.
Funny thing: while watching the previous video with the Hart engines, my mind went to the Judd too, and now here it is! Great stuff, as always! Thanks!
Excellent video. Also something that often gets over looked is the Tickford Judd 5-Valve V8 that Lotus used by Lotus in the 101 chassis in 1989 in Practice in the British and French GP that year. Apparently it gave another 25bhp over the standard 4 valve but there were question marks over reliability so it was not used during the race. Also Tickford had a 3.5 litre 5-vavle V12 on the drawing board at the time but could not get the funds to produce it. More inormation can be found on the Tickford Club website.
Lovely stuff! How about something to do with Lola in terms of their history with chassis development and their racing teams before they went bust if you haven’t already. Seems to fit into this “didn’t seem to light the F1 world on fire but was imperative and influencial in so many other ways” videos
I dont know what it has to do whith this video but when i heard judd i must think of the checkered le mans Dome judd of Jan Lammers and the hillclimbracer bmw judd 's from Georg Plasa. Awesome machines 💪
Splendid use of "casing the joint" - haven't heard that for decades. I remember seeing Judd refurbishing a DFV for Guy Martin, and it was better than new when they put it on the dyno! It was pleasing to see that they were still on the go.
the late great Georg Plasa will always be remembered alongside these engines in a lot of people's minds. Personally I'd love to see you cover a video on the european hillclimb championship and Georg Plasa possibly
1 that may be worth looking at from Paul Weel Racing was an Australian motor racing team which competed in the V8 Supercars Championship Series between 1998 and 2008. to PWR Advanced Cooling Technology (PWR) supplies cooling systems to several Formula One (F1) teams, including Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Red Bull, and Renault. Mercedes-Benz is the only F1 team that does not use PWR's systems. In 1997, Kees with his son Paul Weel saw an opportunity to invest in a new segment of the automotive cooling market. The demand for high quality, light weight, performance aluminium cooling products was growing and Paul Weel Radiators, better known today as PWR Advanced Cooling Technology, was created to fulfill this need. The market was ready for a product that was measured by its performance, and backed up by a flexible manufacturing facility capable of designing and adapting configurations of coolers to custom specifications.
That web conecting all storytimes together is an interesting thought. I wonder who the Kevin Bacon of F1/top tier motorsport is? There's probably someone out there who (almost) everone is no more than 6 connections away from.
@AidanMillward Ah yes I jumped the gun sorry. There was also Nakajima's once in a lifetime 1989 AGP performance which was so random yet epic that you could probably do a whole episode about! In 1995 there were rumors that Pacific would get second hand Yamaha motors - presumably ex-Tyrrell - rebadged as Judd for 1996 but of course the team pulled out before this could happen.
Judd engines were well represented in the EuroBOSS series in the late 90s and into the 00s. I believe Scott Driver67 Mansell had one in the Benetton with which he set his Brands Hatch Indy lap record?
@5:22 If you run an engine lean, you pop the pistons. Ignition timing has F all to do with fuel entering the combustion chamber at the required Fuel/Air Ratio.
Judd also supplied the GV V10 to Mazda for the 1992 World Sportscar Championship, they also had a partnership with French sportscar team Pescarolo Sport who used Judd V10 engines for a number of years
Three comments on this. 1 - Brabham was 3rd in Long Beach CART race in 1986 (5:42). 2 - I've read somewhere that Capelli's March was catching Prost during the 1988 Portuguese GP and finishing second. I wonder why - with a such a dominant McLaren. 3 - I suspect those 750hp for '91 Judd are inflated (11:21), or the power numbers were not true in the early 90s in general. I can recall data from another source that in 1993 only Renault exceeded 750hp, while Senna's Ford could barely hit 700. Or rumours during 1992 Japanese GP that Honda had a special 900-hp engine...
incidentally judd had an indirect dealing with yammahr via noble an volvo with the m600 the 4.4 v8 was commissioned by volvo from yammahr to fit where an I6 was (thuss spawning a massive line of outboards) that got handed over to judd as it fit the bill as the m600 was a modified version of the 400 witch had a v6 so the narrower bank 60 not 90 degrees fit the space constraints that noble had they got it with 2 turbos an some new intake manifolds an what not an then made that monster of a car.
Aidan, I think you're being a bit harsh on the FW12 here - I think it was an excellent chassis (depending on who you ask, some at Honda wanted to supply Williams in 1988 as well. I think if it had that V6, it could have challenged McLaren more often...)
The Judd V8 (specifically the 4 litre V8) is the current engine to have in the British Hillclimb Championship, married to a Gould GR51 chassis it won the 2024 Championship in the hands of Matt Ryder. Another link to what Aiden was talking about is that earlier Gould hillclimb cars were built around Ralt F3 chassis though the current breed have a bespoke chassis. Another interesting thing about the Gould GR51 is that it formed the basis for the original pre-series proof of concept for Formula E though the actual Gen 1 Formula E car was an entirely different design.
The narrow V angle was a request of Adrian Newey. The chief designer at Judd didn’t rate Newey and doesn’t till this day! Judd have a name now in hill climb, multiple and current British titles. 400kg car, 700+ BHP and would have the pants down on even a current F1 car in a drag race.
I remember to be a little bit confused about the Arrows engine suppliers at the end of the 90s with Judd/Yamaha and Hart/"factory" Arrows units. Great that you made videos of both independent engine manufacturers from UK that were there in F1 still in the begining of the 90s.
But here’s a bit of a fun fact Judd engines are still being used to this very day for formula, drift cars, and production cars as well modified Toyota Supra gr and most notably the BMW 134 rally car and it’s being used for the Bugatti Chiron successor tourbillion and get this it’s v16 engine
Actually, the Judd V8 in 1988 was rated at about 600 bhp while the Ford DFR in the Benetton's (of which they had exclusive use in 1988) had about 620 which was the most powerful of the atmo's that year. Most of the reason that the March's were quicker in a straight line was because, well, Adrian Newey. Its arguable after the lowline MP4/4, the March 881 was the most aero efficient F1 car of 1988, while the Benetton B188 with its twin air intakes above the already large sidepod intakes, wasn't, no offence to Rory Byrne.
We had a garage in our Leicestershire village that was shown on local news as the highest priced fuel in the country, Around the same time the owner Ken Goodwin had a F1 team with the first female driver { Wilson? ) . Any idea what I am talking about ¿
The Honda F2 V6 was used in Japanese F2 right until 1986 (that series stuck with ground effect as well until then.) Speaking of, the only second level Formula Race Michael ever competed in, a Japanese F3000 race at Sugo in ‘91, was in a Ralt RT23 (that was red, natch.)
Hi Aiden how about mecachrome, playlife & supertech ? I know it would be a short one as pretty much Old Renault v10`s with a new sticker but still. Asiatech ?
@@AidanMillward Ah you are right. Only trying to think of other indi/small scale F1 engine suppliers. Sauber petronas ? but yeah that has been covered in a Sauber video.
@MotorsportManager-xd2vr probably. The failed lotus merger. Rumours that Simtek did a secret test with mugen just before they went under as well but I think that’s bullshit.
Yes, pacific had a contract with Judd for the '96 season, running pre year Yamaha engines prepared by John Judd. But the plug was pulled after '95. There were also later rumours of a '97 reboot in collab with Lola, but that never materialised. Wich, i believe, is the untold real story of the Lola '97 fail story. They had a car in Pacific PR03, rejected it to build their own chassis, and then Mastercard drew their masterplan. The Simtek MH was Dutch make believe, because we Dutchies were devestaded, certainly with Jos's P6 run in Argentina. The Pacific Judd is as true as the McLambo, altough different from the latter, the former never hit the track
Aidan, a question, do you think Williams would have fared better with the Hart engines? They seem more reliable then the atrocious Judds and Mika Salo even temporarily put an Arrows on pole at Monaco with one!
Always was fascinated by existence of Judd and Hart. Cosworth a bit less. Lambo engines was cool. Yamaha? I completely forgot about it's existence. Amazing series. Modern F1 sucks because no privateers. No back markers. Nothing of interest
Before the engineers say “that’s not how you fix a lean engine!” That’s what John said in an interview so don’t shoot the messenger!
Thanks again for this stuff. I've said it before, but this channel is one of the very few places that recreates the old feel of the F1 Rejects site, which sadly is lost to time (mostly).
Loved that site….
You can find quite a lot of the pages from F1 Rejects on the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine. I would post a link but it would probably get the message deleted. If you use certain browsers you can save the pages as PDFs :-)
@@AnthonyFairweather1way back machine has been very useful for covering those teams and drivers.
@@AidanMillward Would it be too much of a stretch to get a Motori Moderni video someday? (The Turbo ones - not a ton of info about them. There are a few Turbo engines, like that one, but also the Matra V6TT and Alfa L4TT that there is a dearth of info on...)
What happened to the site?
Me hearing “Hart” or “Judd” engines before these two episodes: “oh yuck, why?!”
Me after these episodes: “Fucking brilliant, these lads.”
Very similar feelings. The way the Williams team performed in 1988 has definitely clouded my view on Judd.
Judd engines will always be in my mind when thinking about the late Georg Plasa and his 1-series Judd-V8 powered BMW.
Great video.
I still think it's awesome that Reto Meisel inherited the powertrain and rear wing from Georg's car for his SLK340. Judd power put its mark on me forever when I first saw that white BMW
Wow, I think I spoke this video into existence a few months ago! Great work Aidan, but I'm surprised you didn't mention Judd's biggest win in their history: The 2002 Rolex 24 at Daytona powering a Dallara LMP02 prototype. One of the best sounding cars to grace that track.
Something that wasn't mentioned in the video is Judd is also used with some frequency in hillclimb cars. Probably the most iconic one (and one sim racers can drive on Raceroom - it's also one of the free cars) is Georg Plasa's BMW 134. The Judd in it was a 3.4L V8 that revved to approximately 11.000RPM and produced about 570hp (later iterations of that engine produce more than 600). Unfortunately, that car was short-lived, as Plasa understeered into a hillside and was sadly killed in 2011, the car's first year in competition. Some rumours say the seatbelt mounting points weren't up to standard since his belts didn't hold him in place as intended. What has lived on, however, is its ungodly sound. I've heard many race cars in my life and I'm a through-and-through V12 fan, but that thing makes my hairs stand on end. Look up BMW 134 here and you'll find a few videos of it. That same engine was later also fitted to an SLK dubbed the SLK 340, but the exhaust on that was more tame by comparison. Currently there's also an Alfa 4C that runs a 4 litre variant of that Judd V8 which also can be found on UA-cam. 670hp V8 in a car that weighs 760kg. Hillclimb racing is so nuts and perhaps worth looking into in a future video, since Porsche had a pretty serious hillclimb programme in the 60s and 70s.
I was at an ALMS race in the early 2000s, one of the protos was Judd powered, that thing was LOUD!
So nice to hear that the company is still around.
It's saddening sometimes hearing about all the dreamers getting wake-up calls and going backrupt in the 90s.
Funny thing: while watching the previous video with the Hart engines, my mind went to the Judd too, and now here it is! Great stuff, as always! Thanks!
Dude your content has been on fire for the last couple of months!!
Really enjoy these trips down Memory Lane to the days of following F1 as a young boy. Cheers, AM, well done as always!
4:34 Yep Its all connected to.. ''Aidain : Don''t say it !'' Roberto Moreno.. ;) :P
Excellent video. Also something that often gets over looked is the Tickford Judd 5-Valve V8 that Lotus used by Lotus in the 101 chassis in 1989 in Practice in the British and French GP that year. Apparently it gave another 25bhp over the standard 4 valve but there were question marks over reliability so it was not used during the race. Also Tickford had a 3.5 litre 5-vavle V12 on the drawing board at the time but could not get the funds to produce it. More inormation can be found on the Tickford Club website.
That 99 Pimera was a work of art, RML and Judd were basically unstoppable that season between Aiello and the late great David Leslie.
I have an encyclopedia of formula one (albeit from 1996) and I never knew that Judd was a Brabham company.
@@eamonahern7495 I didn’t know Jack was involved with them until today and I drive for the esports team 🤣
Lovely stuff! How about something to do with Lola in terms of their history with chassis development and their racing teams before they went bust if you haven’t already. Seems to fit into this “didn’t seem to light the F1 world on fire but was imperative and influencial in so many other ways” videos
I dont know what it has to do whith this video but when i heard judd i must think of the checkered le mans Dome judd of Jan Lammers and the hillclimbracer bmw judd 's from Georg Plasa. Awesome machines 💪
Splendid use of "casing the joint" - haven't heard that for decades.
I remember seeing Judd refurbishing a DFV for Guy Martin, and it was better than new when they put it on the dyno! It was pleasing to see that they were still on the go.
@@RabidJohn was that the show where he drove the Williams with Jenson?
@@AidanMillward That's the one.
The FW12C became a pretty potent weapon in 1989 when properly powered. Hell, Patrese finished 3rd in the championship only 20 points behind Senna.
Good job on the "Gugelmin" pronunciation, I've heard you boctch it in older videos. Nice :)
@@deabreu.tattoo Brazilians love telling you they are Brazil. They shouted at me enough for me to get it right.
@AidanMillward it may be trauma for how much we have to suffer to learn a (somewhat) correct pronunciation of age m English 😂
But we appreciate it
the late great Georg Plasa will always be remembered alongside these engines in a lot of people's minds. Personally I'd love to see you cover a video on the european hillclimb championship and Georg Plasa possibly
1 that may be worth looking at from Paul Weel Racing was an Australian motor racing team which competed in the V8 Supercars Championship Series between 1998 and 2008. to
PWR Advanced Cooling Technology (PWR) supplies cooling systems to several Formula One (F1) teams, including Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Red Bull, and Renault. Mercedes-Benz is the only F1 team that does not use PWR's systems.
In 1997, Kees with his son Paul Weel saw an opportunity to invest in a new segment of the automotive cooling market. The demand for high quality, light weight, performance aluminium cooling products was growing and Paul Weel Radiators, better known today as PWR Advanced Cooling Technology, was created to fulfill this need. The market was ready for a product that was measured by its performance, and backed up by a flexible manufacturing facility capable of designing and adapting configurations of coolers to custom specifications.
Well, Ralt provided chassis for some the IndyCar feeder series, and of course you pointed out Judd's work there too.
That web conecting all storytimes together is an interesting thought.
I wonder who the Kevin Bacon of F1/top tier motorsport is? There's probably someone out there who (almost) everone is no more than 6 connections away from.
Judd also went Indycar engine supplying in the late 1980s-early 1990s. They actually won a race!
The bit I mentioned in the video?
@AidanMillward Ah yes I jumped the gun sorry. There was also Nakajima's once in a lifetime 1989 AGP performance which was so random yet epic that you could probably do a whole episode about! In 1995 there were rumors that Pacific would get second hand Yamaha motors - presumably ex-Tyrrell - rebadged as Judd for 1996 but of course the team pulled out before this could happen.
Excellent work! Next up, pretty please, do Spiess! their engines dominated Formula 3!
Judd engines were well represented in the EuroBOSS series in the late 90s and into the 00s. I believe Scott Driver67 Mansell had one in the Benetton with which he set his Brands Hatch Indy lap record?
*You have to leave-a the space* from daytime Bahrain deserves a video.
@5:22 If you run an engine lean, you pop the pistons. Ignition timing has F all to do with fuel entering the combustion chamber at the required Fuel/Air Ratio.
@@1_5RCBiker that’s what Judd said in an interview 💁🏻♂️
The amount of Judd V10s and V8s that are in hillclimb cars is INSANE
Judd also supplied the GV V10 to Mazda for the 1992 World Sportscar Championship, they also had a partnership with French sportscar team Pescarolo Sport who used Judd V10 engines for a number of years
Three comments on this. 1 - Brabham was 3rd in Long Beach CART race in 1986 (5:42). 2 - I've read somewhere that Capelli's March was catching Prost during the 1988 Portuguese GP and finishing second. I wonder why - with a such a dominant McLaren. 3 - I suspect those 750hp for '91 Judd are inflated (11:21), or the power numbers were not true in the early 90s in general. I can recall data from another source that in 1993 only Renault exceeded 750hp, while Senna's Ford could barely hit 700. Or rumours during 1992 Japanese GP that Honda had a special 900-hp engine...
My idea for a new video in the future... one of the last enthusiasts in F1 - Giancarlo Minardi.
I’d love you to be invited to an episode of bring back V10s would be the best cross over ever
A video on Ernie Elliot would be interesting.
He built the engine that still holds the lap speed record at talledega.
incidentally judd had an indirect dealing with yammahr via noble an volvo with the m600 the 4.4 v8 was commissioned by volvo from yammahr to fit where an I6 was (thuss spawning a massive line of outboards) that got handed over to judd as it fit the bill as the m600 was a modified version of the 400 witch had a v6 so the narrower bank 60 not 90 degrees fit the space constraints that noble had they got it with 2 turbos an some new intake manifolds an what not an then made that monster of a car.
Coventry climax… that’s a video with a happy ending.
Aidan, I think you're being a bit harsh on the FW12 here - I think it was an excellent chassis (depending on who you ask, some at Honda wanted to supply Williams in 1988 as well. I think if it had that V6, it could have challenged McLaren more often...)
Loving the coverage of lessor known engine manufacturers! How about Motori Moderni?
4:10 Martin Brundle battling with Ayrton Senna? First I''ve heard of it, it isn't something that Brundle _ever_ mentions!
😜
In F3 that is!
@@slowerthinker because people think he achieved nothing in his career.
Smashed his ankles in and that was it as far as being successful in f1 goes.
The Judd V8 (specifically the 4 litre V8) is the current engine to have in the British Hillclimb Championship, married to a Gould GR51 chassis it won the 2024 Championship in the hands of Matt Ryder. Another link to what Aiden was talking about is that earlier Gould hillclimb cars were built around Ralt F3 chassis though the current breed have a bespoke chassis. Another interesting thing about the Gould GR51 is that it formed the basis for the original pre-series proof of concept for Formula E though the actual Gen 1 Formula E car was an entirely different design.
The narrow V angle was a request of Adrian Newey. The chief designer at Judd didn’t rate Newey and doesn’t till this day! Judd have a name now in hill climb, multiple and current British titles. 400kg car, 700+ BHP and would have the pants down on even a current F1 car in a drag race.
Can someone please actually do the storytime connection tree?
Ashley Judd was the REAL engineering genius here
Could you maybe make a video about BRM next?
Related F1/F2 suggestion: Mecachrome?
You missed out EuroBrun who also ran Judd engines in 1989 and 1990 with LIFE also running the engines for two races in 1990
@@MrSniperfox29 did that in the life and eurobrun videos.
Never know that Judd Engines tuned the Nissan Primera's and the WSR MG's cars in the BTCC.
The Inoue Footwork, is making me wonder, why haven't you re-done your Inoue video after it was taken down in 2020?
@Kartingheadcase02 I’m not doing it without a picture of him being run over as the thumbnail 🤣
@AidanMillward that is very understandable 🤣. My dad told me how he burst out laughing seeing it live.
I was always curious about Judd because of its Indy 500 ties
I remember to be a little bit confused about the Arrows engine suppliers at the end of the 90s with Judd/Yamaha and Hart/"factory" Arrows units.
Great that you made videos of both independent engine manufacturers from UK that were there in F1 still in the begining of the 90s.
But here’s a bit of a fun fact Judd engines are still being used to this very day for formula, drift cars, and production cars as well modified Toyota Supra gr and most notably the BMW 134 rally car and it’s being used for the Bugatti Chiron successor tourbillion and get this it’s v16 engine
Judd also nsupplied the V10 engine for the 1992 Mazda MXR-01 Group C car, which was actually and XJR-14.
Isn't the Bugatti V16 from Cosworth?
A video about Ferrari customer teams would be interesting
Judd also built the engines for Nissan in BTCC in the 90s
@@thatguyfromcetialphaV did you watch the video? 🤣
Aidan in his engine suppliers era
Actually, the Judd V8 in 1988 was rated at about 600 bhp while the Ford DFR in the Benetton's (of which they had exclusive use in 1988) had about 620 which was the most powerful of the atmo's that year. Most of the reason that the March's were quicker in a straight line was because, well, Adrian Newey. Its arguable after the lowline MP4/4, the March 881 was the most aero efficient F1 car of 1988, while the Benetton B188 with its twin air intakes above the already large sidepod intakes, wasn't, no offence to Rory Byrne.
We had a garage in our Leicestershire village that was shown on local news as the highest priced fuel in the country, Around the same time the owner Ken Goodwin had a F1 team with the first female driver { Wilson? ) . Any idea what I am talking about ¿
Judd was on the grid in 1988 in a Williams
The Honda F2 V6 was used in Japanese F2 right until 1986 (that series stuck with ground effect as well until then.)
Speaking of, the only second level Formula Race Michael ever competed in, a Japanese F3000 race at Sugo in ‘91, was in a Ralt RT23 (that was red, natch.)
Remember guys, only top 6 scored points *Back in day*
@@simontravers2715 kids today don’t know how good they have it.
@AidanMillward Enzo probably would’ve BEEN champion if F1 existed from the 1920s
I remember Judd from hillclimbing
You said that Brian Hart was related to Tony, but was John Judd related to Lesley?
@@matthewlawrenson3628 or Harry Judd, drummer for McFly
Hi Aiden how about mecachrome, playlife & supertech ? I know it would be a short one as pretty much Old Renault v10`s with a new sticker but still. Asiatech ?
I thought he already did that or it was mentionned in another video
@@5340robert Red Williams video
@@AidanMillward Ah you are right. Only trying to think of other indi/small scale F1 engine suppliers. Sauber petronas ? but yeah that has been covered in a Sauber video.
Wasn't there a contract between Pacific and Judd for a collaboration in 1996 that never materialised?
@MotorsportManager-xd2vr probably. The failed lotus merger.
Rumours that Simtek did a secret test with mugen just before they went under as well but I think that’s bullshit.
Yes, pacific had a contract with Judd for the '96 season, running pre year Yamaha engines prepared by John Judd. But the plug was pulled after '95. There were also later rumours of a '97 reboot in collab with Lola, but that never materialised. Wich, i believe, is the untold real story of the Lola '97 fail story. They had a car in Pacific PR03, rejected it to build their own chassis, and then Mastercard drew their masterplan.
The Simtek MH was Dutch make believe, because we Dutchies were devestaded, certainly with Jos's P6 run in Argentina. The Pacific Judd is as true as the McLambo, altough different from the latter, the former never hit the track
Aidan, a question, do you think Williams would have fared better with the Hart engines? They seem more reliable then the atrocious Judds and Mika Salo even temporarily put an Arrows on pole at Monaco with one!
Were these Judd Engines any good.
Always was fascinated by existence of Judd and Hart. Cosworth a bit less. Lambo engines was cool. Yamaha? I completely forgot about it's existence. Amazing series.
Modern F1 sucks because no privateers. No back markers. Nothing of interest
Stake kick Sauber were the backmarkers of 2024.
@jamiecloughgaming25387 there used to were three four teams. Now even sauber gone
but it's Yamaha without Yamaha.
??
BRILLIANT