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  • The linguistics behind Kevin Spacey's Southern accent in House of Cards.
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    Sources: Dennis Preston, Oklahoma State University; Robin Dodsworth, North Carolina State University; Kirk Hazen, West Virginia University
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  • @dmon007
    @dmon007 6 років тому +5663

    Spacey went from dropping R's to being dropped altogether.

  • @jedtalk
    @jedtalk 8 років тому +4035

    Thanks, never thought I'd understand less by learning more.

    • @AdmiralPrice
      @AdmiralPrice 7 років тому +86

      You learned more about learning less by learning less when learning more.

    • @pomegranateemporium
      @pomegranateemporium 5 років тому +76

      I so entirely agree with u. I'm so glad u said this. I was watching the video like, _"Oh okay. Oh, okay. Haa. Okay. Oh..hmmm...okay_ *Wait huh - what - where am I?"*

    • @nurbsenvi
      @nurbsenvi 5 років тому +25

      Yup it wasn't coherent.

    • @danielhall8943
      @danielhall8943 5 років тому +5

      How else are you meant to learn

    • @popcornfilms1
      @popcornfilms1 4 роки тому +1

      Then you are a fool and a child

  • @morgancook4288
    @morgancook4288 8 років тому +1388

    Did anyone else stop midway and ask for themselves."Why the fuck am I watching this"?

    • @mohamedalfatahmirghani7513
      @mohamedalfatahmirghani7513 8 років тому +1

      me

    • @prinzsalamander
      @prinzsalamander 8 років тому +70

      +Morgan Cook i'm from germany. it's 1 o'clock and I only understand half of it.

    • @kylec7968
      @kylec7968 8 років тому +12

      I was actually hoping for a better explanation. I like Kevin Spacey a lot, and am a political junkie, so I thought HOC would be a really interesting show. I got about three episodes in and couldn't focus on the plot because his accent is so fake. As a Florida native, I've been exposed to just about all of the southern accents. The "r-dropping" he does is more common in gulf coast places like MS and AL, but is coupled with a considerable amount of drawl and slower speech patterns (think Haley Barbour). Southerners from Appalachian states sound a little faster and more pronounced, much like Lindsey Graham. Native Floridians are a little more in the middle, usually featuring the slower drawl of MS and AL, but more pronounced and deliberate like SC or NC. Bill Nelson is a good example of a native Floridian accent. In much the same way that the northeast has many nuanced accents, so does the southeast, which is why Kevin Spacey's grab-bag southern accent sounds too much like Steel Magnolias

    • @lilhogfella
      @lilhogfella 8 років тому +25

      +Morgan Cook no, i like to learn sometimes.

    • @nerirodriguez9299
      @nerirodriguez9299 8 років тому +4

      Joss Fong is the reason

  • @emeyeenaych
    @emeyeenaych 4 роки тому +261

    "white southerners essentially abandoned r-dropping"
    without the context this sounds like straight cap

    • @calebangell77
      @calebangell77 4 роки тому +32

      They prefer dropping N's and hard R's

  • @mithrandir404
    @mithrandir404 8 років тому +2218

    So why does Kevin Spacey's accent sound off? You didn't really address that.

    • @tommyhaynes521
      @tommyhaynes521 8 років тому +35

      +mithrandir404 Right , I kept waiting for that

    • @georgewang2947
      @georgewang2947 8 років тому +396

      He relies on dropping r's, which is no longer done by southerners except in african american dialects. He sounds more like Scarlett O'Hara than a modern South Carolinan.

    • @rohitguptahpf2
      @rohitguptahpf2 8 років тому +68

      +mithrandir404 It did. Frank Underwood should talk like Lindsey Graham, and he doesn't.

    • @XiaolinDraconis
      @XiaolinDraconis 8 років тому +92

      +mithrandir404 they explained it. but what they failed to understand is that his accent as he states in the show had changed while he was in military school.

    • @andreirobu5695
      @andreirobu5695 8 років тому +1

      +RohitGupta I agree but he'd be much harder to take seriously then.

  • @zestyitalian2610
    @zestyitalian2610 9 років тому +932

    ... But it's not "off", per se. It's just an older accent that's associated with the southern aristocracy. It's not extinct- just less common than it used to be. And considering the character background of Frank Underwood- poor boy, self-made man from the small town south- it's not unreasonable to suggest that he affected a highborn, genteel southern accent, just as Scots and Irish of a certain generation (think Peter O'Toole) affected a semi-aristocratic RP English accent to bolster their careers and statuses.
    And trust me- Spacey leaves nothing to chance- least of all something as essential as an accent. Spacey is a technician. One of the most technical of all American actors, in fact. He draws characters out as if they had blueprints or schematics. Nothing he does, physically or vocally, is an accident. And I have a very hard time believing that he didn't do his research into the specific type of dialect Frank Underwood would have. I've always thought he sounded a lot like Jimmy Carter.

    • @theutopianoutopioan464
      @theutopianoutopioan464 6 років тому +43

      ZestyItalian2, Kevin Spacey's accent is quite realistic. I have a non rhotic southern accent similar to this, except mine is real. You should remember however, that Hollywood has only two southern American accents it uses in movies, those are the old fashioned completely non rhotic ' plantation ' accent and the stereotypical ' hillbilly ' accent . Hollywood fails to realize that there's MANY southern accents, There's the non rhotic Cajun accents, there's the heavily rhotic south Appalachian accents that exist in northwestern Georgia, much of Tennessee, Kentucky, northern Alabama and the western regions of the Carolinas and there's Mississippi with native accents of it's own, not to mention Texas which has a more nutral version of the ' hillbilly ' accent! Yet Hollywood tends to ignore them all.

    • @TheShakey99
      @TheShakey99 5 років тому +9

      @@theutopianoutopioan464 spot on. Visited the mountains in western NC every year for 20 years. All my family have the Appalachian drawl to them over there. But I've got the arkansas/texas accent from growing up there.

    • @knoxgraham1181
      @knoxgraham1181 5 років тому +3

      I agree, but I'd also like to say that maybe it's an example of the character he is. I don't think it is necessarily that he (Underwood)has adopted this accent, it's just a manifestation of him being sophisticated. After all, the accent was attributed to people in power in the 1800s, white plantation owners, and the fact that he is in power shows itself with a similar accent.

    • @futerofiari5353
      @futerofiari5353 5 років тому +2

      It's not as common anymore, but that plantation non-rhotic southern accent still is around! There's even younger people with similar non-rhotic southern accents, mainly in Louisiana and certain parts of Virginia

    • @thebrutusmars
      @thebrutusmars 3 роки тому

      @@futerofiari5353
      I know some people who sound like that along the Mississippi River, on the border of MS and LA.

  • @HuyLy94
    @HuyLy94 8 років тому +965

    What about how he pronunces the "w" on words starting with a "wh" strangely, like how he says whip as huip

    • @KevinFromTheOffice
      @KevinFromTheOffice 7 років тому +358

      every time he says that it reminds me of Stewie from family guy lol

    • @BRBallin1
      @BRBallin1 7 років тому +101

      Cool Hwip lol

    • @cheeseontoast9418
      @cheeseontoast9418 7 років тому +63

      do you mean he pronounces the H?

    • @HenryMiller17
      @HenryMiller17 7 років тому +84

      titanium hwite

    • @Rachulie
      @Rachulie 7 років тому +26

      lol I'm from Gaffney, SC and we do not sound like him nor these R-dropping actors when they try to play our accent.
      Nope. Lots of R sounds. Think the misconception is gone with the wind and such movies

  • @jamesburgess2k
    @jamesburgess2k 7 років тому +950

    When you tryna figure this out, but you have no idea because you already talk like this...

    • @edg6762
      @edg6762 6 років тому +1

      10,000 Subscribers without Videos you're Black aren't you

    • @shilohschwartz8671
      @shilohschwartz8671 6 років тому +16

      *when you trahna figah this out, but yah have no idea because yah alrahday talk like this....

    • @alykhairy1998
      @alykhairy1998 6 років тому +1

      James Burgess its so haaaaad -Scott Herman

    • @yeahmylo
      @yeahmylo 6 років тому +4

      I read this comment in a southern accent and am Canadian.

    • @burningknight7
      @burningknight7 6 років тому

      why is this a thing ^ Ed?

  • @deerlikely
    @deerlikely 8 років тому +158

    But isn't Frank Underwood's accent an affectation that he himself admits to? I recall in some episode, he mentions that he didn't grow up "talking like this" in Gaffney, and that his accent was cultivated whilst in military college in the '70s.

    • @johnwilson1094
      @johnwilson1094 8 років тому +14

      That's a good point. I've noticed a lot of real soldiers seem to acquire a sort of generic southern accent (less than 1970's CB talk) after a couple of years of service. I thought it was a sort of effort to fit in.
      Somewhere, also is a clip of Brian Keith doing three or four accents from Georgia in about as many minutes.

    • @copiacopia12ictvohi76
      @copiacopia12ictvohi76 6 років тому +2

      Is it really an affectation if you talk like that all the time? It really isn't.

    • @WiggaMachiavelli
      @WiggaMachiavelli 5 років тому +14

      @@copiacopia12ictvohi76 It really is an affectation if it's something consciously adopted.

  • @beckiejbrown
    @beckiejbrown 7 років тому +177

    WOW! I learnt so many new things watching this, goodness me!

  • @leisuresuitspam5636
    @leisuresuitspam5636 3 роки тому +25

    “Slaves dropped r’s and passed it down to their descendants”
    Huh so that’s where that word came from

  • @Graysonhd
    @Graysonhd 9 років тому +148

    Kevin Spacey's accent is pretty darn authentic. As a native South Carolinian, I have a few minor winces with it, periodically, as does the author of this (excellent) article/video on linguistics. But overall I give it an A-. Most actors deserve Fs for their southern accents.
    Southern accents, and their finer or lesser points, are (were) absolutely critical... to the southerner at least. As they instantly denote whether or not there has been any education in one's family background.

    • @melstrashbin
      @melstrashbin 11 місяців тому

      he is extremely manipulative, so it would make sense that he got this right

  • @Xbawkslaggo
    @Xbawkslaggo 8 років тому +103

    am i the only one who tried to pronounce the r-dropping and stuff while watching

    • @darthghitza8037
      @darthghitza8037 6 років тому +2

      hell... I even tried to pronounce them while reading you comment

    • @june4135
      @june4135 4 роки тому

      yes. you freak.

    • @barryschwarz
      @barryschwarz 3 роки тому

      Nope

  • @primarypenguin
    @primarypenguin 7 років тому +295

    It would have been easier to understand if there was one person demonstrating all the subtle differences instead of cutting around to short clips of random different people saying different things quickly. It was hard for me to follow

    • @excitedaboutlearning1639
      @excitedaboutlearning1639 5 років тому +8

      The problem is that the video included too much linguistic explanations that commoners don't understand. The production team should've paid a little bit of more attention on making the video more accessible for everyone by simplifying the message.

  • @XBLArmory
    @XBLArmory 9 років тому +697

    As a southerner I find it interesting but by no means is it authentic; he sounds more like Foghorn Leghorn to me than any real southerner.

    • @xkrntylsekkix
      @xkrntylsekkix 9 років тому +11

      LOL

    • @dboydustin
      @dboydustin 9 років тому +2

      XBLArmory I'll second that lol

    • @2Majesties
      @2Majesties 9 років тому +14

      As awful as Tom Hanks in 'Gump.' Terrible.

    • @xkrntylsekkix
      @xkrntylsekkix 9 років тому +6

      so funny, i came back to say that in one of the episodes of this season, they make a reference that he does sound like foghorn leghorn. (episode 9 hint hint)

    • @ScytaleZero
      @ScytaleZero 9 років тому +105

      I'm from South Carolina. While Frank Underwood's accent isn't that of the typical Carolinian (today), I met an old-money owner of a canning plant when I first started working that sounded very much like the Frank Underwood accent. It kind of fascinated me at the time. So, he does sound like at least 1 real southerner.

  • @BlankCanvas88
    @BlankCanvas88 7 років тому +57

    I'm always confused when actors use this southern accent outside of a period film b/c I rarely hear it used where I'm from (I've lived in Georgia, Texas, and Louisiana). I feel like British people actually do a better job of the southern accent than non-Southern Americans, and I think that's b/c southern accent has more similarities to it.

    • @Suite_annamite
      @Suite_annamite 7 років тому +7

      John Oliver is a British guy who does an awesome job mimicking southern Americans, yet curiously can't do a regular American accent.

    • @theutopianoutopioan464
      @theutopianoutopioan464 6 років тому +5

      BlankCanvas88, Actually Louisiana does have similar non-rhotic accents to this one, don't believe me? Watch Swamp People and or my videos! Then you'll see non rhotic southern accents exist

  • @leroyrockwell4837
    @leroyrockwell4837 6 років тому +144

    How would he say “rape” tho

  • @nicolaszunker4938
    @nicolaszunker4938 8 років тому +382

    i mean its definitely interesting but like.... i really really couldnt keep up with those subtle differences sorry haha

    • @akizeta
      @akizeta 7 років тому +46

      Yeah, the UA-cam trope of delivering all the voiceover as quickly as possible is really not the kind of exposition a subject like this needs. If you're familiar with the subject I guess you can kind of follow it, but if you're familiar you probably don't need to have it explained to you. For the rest of us, a little of "Tell them what you're going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you've told them" wouldn't go amiss. And slower!

    • @radanv2535
      @radanv2535 7 років тому +1

      NelC: I'd agree if this were an educational video. But it isn't. It's still the wild-west-style internet ;-)

    • @dysonsquared
      @dysonsquared 6 років тому +2

      Nicolas Zunker as a Bostonian, I immediately got it. I guess it's a "takes one to know one" kind of thing!

    • @brianloper6669
      @brianloper6669 3 роки тому

      Go to Virginia, you'll here it

  • @KyleJPie10
    @KyleJPie10 8 років тому +22

    1) I don't think his accent sounds "off"
    2) and if anything, this video explains how it doesn't sound "off"

    • @georgewang2947
      @georgewang2947 8 років тому +7

      Basically he drops his R's too much and that southerners today actually don't talk that way anymore.

    • @georgewang2947
      @georgewang2947 8 років тому

      I don't care if it's true or not. I'm just paraphrasing the video for people who need better listening comprehension skills.

  • @SageKStroke52
    @SageKStroke52 7 років тому +14

    I'm from Kentucky and I learned so much about my own dialect. I never thought I had much of an accent but I went to New York last year and everyone there was like "you're from the south aren't you?". crazy how different people sound from other areas of the same country

  • @WanquanLoot
    @WanquanLoot 8 років тому +61

    2:22 it should be noted that that's because in General American, /aɪ/ is realized as [aɪ] before voiced consonants and in word-final position, but as [əɪ] before voiceless consonants. (the difference between "light" and "lied".)
    So, /aɪ/ monophthongization ("ay-ungliding") makes the difference between the General American and that Southern accent even wider-when it's not pre-voiceless, you hear [a] as opposed to [aɪ], but when it is, you hear [a] as opposed to [əɪ], and those don't share any vowels.

    • @Sherkel
      @Sherkel 8 років тому +12

      I learned something new today.

    • @adampanagopoulos2979
      @adampanagopoulos2979 7 років тому +4

      Also something they claim in this video is that southern accents are Rhotic while most Southern Accents have inconsistent rhoticity. So perhaps in South Carolina they may be Rhotic but with most Southern Accents the pronouncing of the "R" is not consistent just like in the extract they took from Woody Allen who speaks with a New York Accent.

    • @ryancampbell8618
      @ryancampbell8618 7 років тому +1

      Adam Panagopoulos It's a little hard to quantify, because here in South Carolina, there are at least 3 totally different and distinct accents that really don't sound very alike.

    • @theutopianoutopioan464
      @theutopianoutopioan464 6 років тому +2

      Adam Panagopoulos, There's several southern accents that are non rhotic, Though you can hear the R's in words like work and girl, even though the R's get dropped elsewhere in some dialects. Most southern accents today tend to be semi rhotic ( that is, the pronunciation of R after vowels is inconsistent ) . Hollywood has only two southern accents it uses, the old fashioned, completely non rhotic ' plantation' accent and the hard R ' hillbilly' accent, Both of those generic accents are only spoken by a minority of southerners. What Hollywood fails to realize is that there's MANY southern American accents! Someone from Charleston SC sounds wildly different from a person from the mountains of Tennessee, who in turn has a vastly different variety of English to someone from the Cajun areas of Louisiana!

    • @SilverDT1
      @SilverDT1 6 років тому

      This feature (Canadian raising) is certainly becoming more common, but I don't think it's trickled into "General American" speech yet.
      From both research and my own experience, it seems to be restricted to the Upper Midwest, the Mid-Atlantic, and New England; I don't hear it as much in the Lower Midwest (supposedly the region with accents closest to General American) or in the West.

  • @mysterioso2006
    @mysterioso2006 9 років тому +223

    Love this kind of stuff.

    • @peachabutt
      @peachabutt 5 років тому

      Just like he loves kids... ving!

  • @Omar-zo6ro
    @Omar-zo6ro 6 років тому +321

    I expect a sexual assault joke in the comment section.

    • @AliKhan-mg3mj
      @AliKhan-mg3mj 4 роки тому +7

      why ? u weird ?

    • @UnknownUser-in1hd
      @UnknownUser-in1hd 4 роки тому +18

      Spacey is innocent, so a joke would be lame

    • @jsb7546
      @jsb7546 4 роки тому +1

      Been searching

    • @UnknownUser-in1hd
      @UnknownUser-in1hd 3 роки тому +1

      @George Magnus who died "CASUALLY" ??
      send a link to proof your point

    • @LethalPoisonForThrSystem
      @LethalPoisonForThrSystem 3 роки тому +1

      @@UnknownUser-in1hd 3 women that were gonna testify against him conveniently died

  • @seanbperiod
    @seanbperiod 9 років тому +17

    Actually, this season I noticed Spacey's accent coming in and out.. It seemed to be more pronounced and southern when he was in public, and much more muted when just talking to his wife.. At times, he even sounds northern.

    • @the_rock_warrior
      @the_rock_warrior 9 років тому +10

      The shift in accent could potentially be psychological. Pandering to your hometown supporters versus campaigning to a Northern crowd could be a sociolinguistic tactic. Perhaps it's just a flaw in his acting, which is more likely, but identifying with others on a linguistic level happens every day with everyone.

    • @pamelacowley4587
      @pamelacowley4587 9 років тому +3

      Andrew Hansen Spot on, Mr. Hansen. We all tend to echo vocal nuances with peers or people we’re trying to connect with. I’m sure any salesman does this everyday. Personally I believe Frank Underwood DOES very much lay it on thick when it best serves him, and his dialogue with Claire is his most true voice. I don’t think Kevin Spacey is capable of a flaw like that. I call it brilliant.

    • @PrincessAllie
      @PrincessAllie 9 років тому +3

      Pamela Cowley I love your use of the phrase "lay it on thick." I do this sometimes without realizing it. I grew up in South Georgia but now live in Atlanta. When I go back home, I tend to sound more "country" then I ever did before. My mother calls this "throwing on the dawg."

  • @anthonychilders9549
    @anthonychilders9549 3 роки тому +9

    “As we used to say in Gaffney...”
    As a person who lived the town over from Gaffney, I can guarantee no one said that.

  • @julianfree2394
    @julianfree2394 9 років тому +12

    The motion graphics really kept this interesting. Well edited, too.

  • @OrisStories
    @OrisStories 9 років тому +604

    Great video! Very interesting! One question, where is this music from???

    • @Vox
      @Vox  9 років тому +48

      Ori's Stories thanks! We get our tunes from APM music.

    • @OrisStories
      @OrisStories 9 років тому +3

      Thank you very much! I look forward to more of your videos :)

    • @nickyoung1668
      @nickyoung1668 8 років тому +2

      +Vox what's the name of this song?

    • @yaesar
      @yaesar 8 років тому +57

      +Nick Young darude- sandstorm

    • @heinrichb
      @heinrichb 8 років тому

      *****
      Was leaving a comment a part of your plan?

  • @HaloMasterMind117
    @HaloMasterMind117 7 років тому +74

    IDK - listen to the Governor of South Carolina, Henry McMaster. He talks just like this.

    • @TheJagjr4450
      @TheJagjr4450 6 років тому +10

      Exactly... it is a lower state sound, not a Gaffney sound. McMaster is from the low country and the low country and up country were settled by different peoples entirely. IT was not easy to travel from Charleston to Greenville Gaffney Cherokee area, this upcountry was settled by people traveling down the Cherokee path from Pennsylvania and Virginia who ended up in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains... Thus the slower low country drawl which is prevalent amongst those raised in affluent Charleston or Low Country society is not part of the up country dialect.

    • @sirmount2636
      @sirmount2636 6 років тому +1

      TheJagjr4450 Governor McMaster is from Columbia. Nowhere near the low country.

    • @erfling1
      @erfling1 5 років тому +3

      It's also generational. My grandmother sounded very much like that. I happened to recently come across a recording of Flannery O'Connor, and she sounded very similar, too. She's from a small town in eastern Georgia

    • @katan0625
      @katan0625 3 роки тому

      I live right near Gaffney and I’ve never heard anyone talk like Frank Underwood in my entire life 😂

  • @ezekielchojnacki5047
    @ezekielchojnacki5047 3 роки тому +47

    Didn't even watch the video, just came for all the Spacey jokes. This didn't age well 😂

  • @ajud24
    @ajud24 7 років тому +127

    Amazing video, learned a lot. So why does Kevin Spacey's accent in House of Cards sound off?

    • @PejmanMan
      @PejmanMan 7 років тому +17

      Alonzo U r dropping isnt common now since 1944. and spacey is much too young.
      what they forgot is that spacey came from a more lower class background, while Graham is a mighty high class southurn gentleman.

    • @ajud24
      @ajud24 7 років тому

      PejmanMan Oh right, didn't make that connection.

    • @Moumpt305
      @Moumpt305 7 років тому +4

      The biggest thing is that his accent doesn't really fit anywhere. Take my native NC, there is a distinctive dialect difference between those from the eastern and western sides of the state. While Spacey's accent isn't bad, it is very generalized. It does not fit into any form of southern dialect. He borrows from a bunch of different ones. Listen to someone from NC, AL, TX, and KY and they all sound different.

    • @savannae6898
      @savannae6898 7 років тому +17

      Moumpt305 I disagree. You don't recognize his accent not because it is too generic, but too specific. It is an old rich Charleston, SC accent. Look up ex-Charleston mayor Joe Riley. He sounds very similar.

    • @apseudonym
      @apseudonym 6 років тому

      because he talks like foghorn leghorn

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek 7 років тому

    This was great! Please upload more of these

  • @watchmeasifly
    @watchmeasifly 9 років тому

    Something I never knew I would find so interesting. Great video, good job with the editing and pacing.

  • @joshywashy4ever
    @joshywashy4ever 9 років тому +12

    I'm from the 5th congressional district in South Carolina, about 45 minutes from Gaffney. We sound nothing like he does.

    • @reeeems
      @reeeems 9 років тому +2

      Josh Sinclair I agree, they should have made his district closer to the coast. People actually do talk that way in SC, just not in Gaffney.

    • @jamesb.6196
      @jamesb.6196 9 років тому +5

      I reckon they chose his accent because it sounds quite "old south", and sort of matches with the persona of a blue dog southern Democrat.

    • @Pantano63
      @Pantano63 4 роки тому

      You sound bad then.

  • @SanaSaleh
    @SanaSaleh 9 років тому +5

    This is stylistically fascinating, adding yet another cool layer to the show. Substantively, I found out last weekend that the creator of House of Cards was a playwright, which really explains some of the unique creative choices, Shakespearean language, and stylistic and narrative technique to have Underwood break the fourth wall and talk directly to the audience. It doesn't hurt that the creator's college buddy and current Political consultant is an actual major political operative either. Without spoiling it for new viewers, knowing what campaigns they worked on (especially the Howard Dean campaign) explains *a lot* about the show's commentary on idealism versus realpolitik in the public sector, why Underwood has his specific party affiliation, and even the use of/commentary on digital media (which seemed rather dated and off to me) and the journalistic storylines and characters within the series. There's so much rich ground to explore with this series, whatever your opinion of the protagonist. (Generally, I respect the creative potency of the series, but am wary of Beltway folks that lionize someone so ethically bankrupt). I'd really be interested in hearing what people thought of Frank -- having fully been (d)evolved into Politics Personified -- systematically alienated everyone in his circle who was long-term invested in his enterprise: Jackie, Remy, and finally (in apparently the final straw of a season-long process) even his staunchest advocate, Claire.
    It goes beyond just the usual arrogance and blithely throwing these people under the bus - you saw the wheels turning behind their eyes in each of their final stand-offs with Frank, in such a way that there was a lot of symmetry there between the disintegration of his core relationships with the longtime associate/subordinate (Remy), the political protege/mentee of sorts (Jackie), and of course his rock, the other side of his coin, ride-or-die Claire. It seems in House of Cards, like Washington in the flesh -- it's when the most loyal of a leader's folks just stop talking to the 'Emperor' and no longer bother to air their concerns candidly, that he should seriously worry.
    What's interesting is that someone who orchestrated the artificial dissolution of so many loyalties in seasons past (using essentially what amounts to emotional manipulation on a basic 'high school' level - slowly sowing discontent, suspicion, distrust, fear, and among key allies/friendships and advisers...who never bothered to *communicate* with each other candidly enough to figure out who was the common rotten denominator) -- well, Frank himself, just didn't see any of it coming with his strongest trifecta of supporters willfully extricating themselves from his fight.

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo 8 років тому +400

    I'm southern, and I LOVE Kevin Spacey's accent in House of Cards!

    • @nathanfarley5490
      @nathanfarley5490 8 років тому +8

      +dennis robinson yeah its hilarious

    • @concain
      @concain 8 років тому +17

      +dennis robinson house of caaaahds

    • @huitzilopochli1976
      @huitzilopochli1976 8 років тому +1

      +Rauno Vihtre give this man an Oscar

    • @noroxus
      @noroxus 8 років тому +6

      +dennis robinson I live in Gaffney, and while I am fine with his accent, it is definitely not from here.

    • @larsjohanbjorkman
      @larsjohanbjorkman 8 років тому +30

      +noroxus I hear you ... but Frank Underwood is a sociopathic faker about almost everything and openly flaunts to the viewers how he misrepresents (to the public) his upbringing in Gaffney. That he affects a different and crafted accent seems to make sense for his character.

  • @hishamalaker491
    @hishamalaker491 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine researching for hours or days and coming with numbers and Historical numbers just for a way that people talk... impressive.

  • @xXFluffers
    @xXFluffers 9 років тому +14

    Ay-ungliding. So glad I know what that phonetic mechanism is now.

    • @caffetiel
      @caffetiel 9 років тому +8

      Or monophthongisation

  • @kjgarvin
    @kjgarvin 8 років тому +24

    Actors almost never get the southern accent right. The stereotypical southern accent (Dolly Parton, Kelly Pickler, etc) is usually isolated to certain small areas in the south and is not as wide spread as people think. I have never heard some one talk like Kevin Spacey unless the person was joking and being dramatic.

    • @kjgarvin
      @kjgarvin 8 років тому

      Fritz is ancient like jimmy Carter. The video talked about that.

    • @rainernotes
      @rainernotes 8 років тому +3

      +Ken G It's an older southern accent. Go talk to people from SC who are in their 70's and I bet you'll find more talking like Kevin Spacey than you'd expect.

    • @kjgarvin
      @kjgarvin 8 років тому

      +Andrew Rainer I am from Columbia and I have talked to people from SC all of my life of all ages. I am 37.

    • @rainernotes
      @rainernotes 8 років тому +6

      I've split my time between Aiken, Columbia, and now Charleston. I've met a few people who talk much like Frank, always fairly older people. Different experiences I guess, but I have definitely heard this accent, not as a joke.

    • @lisalu1718
      @lisalu1718 8 років тому

      +Ken G I totally agree. I''m from Tennessee and we only use this accent when we are joking. I love Kevin Spacey, but his accent gets on my nerves in this series.

  • @peter5z
    @peter5z 9 років тому

    How refreshing to get such excellent scholarship so well presented. Thank you!

  • @wildbum03
    @wildbum03 6 років тому +455

    your voice changes when you think of little boys all the time

  • @jacobcorbin1
    @jacobcorbin1 8 років тому +7

    So true, got family from south-eastern Kentucky, almost kind of creepy how spot on the accent was at times

  • @bagrisham
    @bagrisham 7 років тому +6

    Grew up in the South of the US and actually having a video that describes this effect is invaluable. Language is Language. Dialect and Accent is individual, and based on the learned use of vocal chords. Thankfully, you can change your voice.

  • @xxLivvy212xx
    @xxLivvy212xx 7 років тому

    Excellent editing and music in this.

  • @catelu0915TT
    @catelu0915TT 3 роки тому

    vox you guys did a really good job!!

  • @davidm.480
    @davidm.480 8 років тому +3

    Oh what do you know? Ah just wish I had some rotten pepper. I'd rot yew such a angry letter on that pepper...

  • @wilkersonrose
    @wilkersonrose 9 років тому +51

    You know, I don't agree that a professional actor such as Kevin Spacey is just ignorant of the dialect he's "supposed to" portray based on where his character is from. It seems to me that the reason for Spacey to use the dialect of an antebellum Aristocratic Southerner would have to do with the characterization of his character, Frank Underwood. Remember that as an actor you take literary license when portraying a character. If we were talking about a run-of-the-mill Hollywood actor then I'd perhaps agree that the dialectal portrayal is based on ignorance, but Spacey is a highly accomplished theater actor (he's been the artistic director of The Old Vic in London for over a decade) as well as a Hollywood actor. I'm sure he put some serious thought and research into how he would portray his character.

    • @neelparmar6690
      @neelparmar6690 7 років тому +2

      I think House of Cards is generally a good series but, though I'm from Australia, I've never bought Spacey's accent. It doesn't sound authentic and quite often as though he's going over the top and accenting words and word combinations in a way no one would say actually them.

  • @billypinto7306
    @billypinto7306 7 років тому

    I appreciate every video Vox makes about english accents. Please make more.

  • @JayRoller
    @JayRoller 9 років тому +2

    It's not like they always drop their R's. Just have one of them try to say "Idea" without hearing the hard R.

  • @DarkZerol
    @DarkZerol 6 років тому +6

    Now we know the "actual" reason of Spacey accent.
    It's called F-Dropping.

  • @jogonjohn205
    @jogonjohn205 4 роки тому +5

    The first 9 seconds answer the question

  • @Nanapoo
    @Nanapoo 9 років тому +1

    Loved this video. I took English Phonetics as a course and even though I had a hard time with it, I find it fascinating.

  • @bigmackdombles6348
    @bigmackdombles6348 7 років тому

    great job with this vid!

  • @HeiderJeffer
    @HeiderJeffer 3 роки тому +7

    Southern: rahd mahl an bah.
    EN: Ride Mile and Buy.

  • @Dan1elAndrade
    @Dan1elAndrade 8 років тому +134

    Ok, opinions from a non-native english speaker here:
    I never noticed he wasn't sounding as an appropiate southerner, I'd bet that even native english speakers wouldn't recognize that neither. For me he always sounded as an enigmatic, rich southerner.
    Anyway, maybe Spacey didn't master the appropiate pronounciation, however I like to think this is due to southerners, specially in politics trying to lose their accents to sound more 'neutral' and consider Spacey may have tried to sound like a southerner trying to lose his accent.
    Thoughts?

    • @TerribleTF2
      @TerribleTF2 8 років тому +41

      I'm from the south, Spacey doesn't sound like anyone I know
      I just figured it was more of an aesthetic choice than trying to sound genuinely southern

    • @MotionPictureMuse
      @MotionPictureMuse 8 років тому +9

      I'm from the Midwest US. I honestly wouldn't have known it was off, although I'm well aware that Hollywood actors rarely get regional accents (esp. Southern ones) correct. I agree that it helps define the character though, even if it may not be accurate. His accent brings to mind the Southern Democrats of old, as well as wealthy, well-connected Southerners in general.

    • @Dan1elAndrade
      @Dan1elAndrade 8 років тому +2

      Midwestern!
      I still speak english to this day with the yah! expression :)

    • @Dan1elAndrade
      @Dan1elAndrade 8 років тому

      Midwestern!
      I still speak english to this day with the yah! expression :)

    • @GelidGanef
      @GelidGanef 8 років тому +55

      My family's from the south. He doesn't sound at all like a "real Southerner".
      But I sort of figured that was a conscious choice. I seem to remember they explain in the show that Claire Underwood has intentionally changed her accent as an adult (Which is of course still not her native Australian accent). Frank's accent sounds Southern, stately, and dignified. And it sounds somewhat like the popular conception of "Savannah Plantationer Drawl". But it still never quite sells "real Southerner".
      Which tells me that Frank has _modified_ his natural speaking voice to something that he believes will be perceived as old-fashioned and trustworthy and electable. Which would just be perfectly on par for the show. Everything about Kevin and Robin's performances is layers and layers of acting deep. Everything they do seems to just naturally come out as "calculated to look natural." So I really just feel the same vibe of "fake-genuineness" from Kevin's accent as from everything else about their crafted personas.

  • @jsdigital
    @jsdigital 9 років тому

    This is an awesome video. Props Vox.

  • @sylentlight6771
    @sylentlight6771 8 років тому

    GREAT video! This is a topic I hold dear actually and can very much confirm what you are saying. I kinda have a unique perspective on the topic since I was born in Michigan but raised south of Nashville, TN from a young age. You covered a very broad but important part of the southern dialect. To get the full effect though would take a LONG series because something I've noticed down here is that it's a lot like old England where an accent can change from town to town. In bigger towns like Franklin and Columbia, it's a more generic southern accent, however, when you go outside the county seats into the small communities such as Theta or Santa Fe (pronounced like FEE, not FA... They WILL run you out of town for that... Seriously.) it's totally different to where even people that have lived in the south their whole lives can have a hard time understanding them.

  • @WanquanLoot
    @WanquanLoot 8 років тому +4

    if you were confused at the chart at 2:19, that's because it's confusing, and it looks intentional. they're not matched up. here is a list of pairs of voiceless and voiced consonants:
    /p/ /b/
    /w/ /ʍ/ (wh)
    /f/ /v/
    /θ/ /ð/ (th: voiced as in "the", voiceless as in "thick")
    /t/ /d/
    /s/ /z/
    /ʃ/ /ʒ/ (sh is voicelss and /ʒ/ is the "s" in "treasure")
    /tʃ/ /dʒ/ (ch and j)
    /k/ /g/

    • @aimeelies
      @aimeelies 7 років тому +1

      Wanquan Loot Wh is two sounds and definitely voiced, but I'm not sure it matters as I can't think of an example where it occurs after a vowel.

    • @WanquanLoot
      @WanquanLoot 7 років тому

      it was inaccurate of me to put /ʍ/, because I think it's phonemically /hw/ in Modern English, but is usually realized as [ʍ] (one allophone). that sound is the voiceless labialized velar approximant; and I find it hard to make an argument that the /h/ would be a voiced glottal fricative /ɦ/, so all-in-all it's voiceless. and yeah i am pretty sure it's always word-initial.

  • @slappy8941
    @slappy8941 7 років тому +3

    It's also important to note that Southerners tend to drag out and fully pronounce dipthongs, a trait shared by many in the Northeast, whereas Midwesterners tend to shorten dipthongs to a single vowel sound. Some examples include: bought, caught, and fault, which in the South are pronounced as "bawt", "cawt", and "fawlt", in some parts of the Northeast as "bowt", "cowt", and "fowlt", but in the Midwest as "boht", "coht", and "fohlt". New Englanders tend to split the difference between Southern and Midwestern with "baht", "caht", and "fahlt". There is also the use of the pronounced "t" and the glottal stop, but that's for another time.

  • @ShawnsterVideos
    @ShawnsterVideos 3 роки тому

    Excellent details. Thanks.

  • @nazarenovallejos
    @nazarenovallejos 7 років тому +24

    I love the southern accent, sounds pretty cool

    • @maggieanne322
      @maggieanne322 7 років тому +3

      thanks

    • @phoenixwing50
      @phoenixwing50 7 років тому

      Maggie, where are you from?

    • @maggieanne322
      @maggieanne322 7 років тому

      Arkansas, how about you?

    • @ninjapro9812
      @ninjapro9812 7 років тому

      depends, in the poor parts of south carolina the accent just sounds like you are about to commit a crime

    • @phoenixwing50
      @phoenixwing50 7 років тому

      Maggie Anne Sorry, I never responded. I live in Massachusetts, but I'm from Georgia.

  • @EenGamer.
    @EenGamer. 7 років тому +9

    R

  • @EamonBurke
    @EamonBurke 8 років тому +9

    I'm from Texas and this video was really hard to understand. I could barely understand the examples being given, they just sounded like people talking, lol.

  • @rnjbond230
    @rnjbond230 6 років тому

    This is a really interesting video, thanks.

  • @jamkwon
    @jamkwon 7 років тому

    so interesting. i got here because i was genuinely fascinated by kevin spacey's accent in this show, and if it were real, and this content was so fulfilling. thanks, vox.

  • @SufferToResist
    @SufferToResist 6 років тому +80

    Came here looking for all the comment about rapey spacey. Lmao

    • @prodbyxanderjohan
      @prodbyxanderjohan 6 років тому +2

      he didn't rape anyone

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 6 років тому

      It was 12 year old kids that raped him.

  • @genartp.6499
    @genartp.6499 6 років тому +15

    Bad touch BAD TOUCH

  • @ZackEdwards1234
    @ZackEdwards1234 6 років тому

    First Vox video that I've actually found rather interesting.

  • @isoblah
    @isoblah 7 років тому

    I love all these analysis on accents.

  • @chinamanandfriends
    @chinamanandfriends 7 років тому +4

    Sounds OFF? It sounds beautiful.

  • @JonahTyree
    @JonahTyree 8 років тому +10

    One thing I've noticed about accents is finding a balance, and a "Que word". So, the biggest mistake I hear people making with accents is overdoing it. They try far too hard, and it just ends up sounding corny. Now, there is people with REALLY thick Cockney, but that doesn't mean you have to talk like that. :D Secondly, a "Que word". For my Australian accent, it's "Nebuchadnezzar". It just seems to "Jolt" my brain into that talking style. For my Russian accent, it's "Nogrovia". I don't know if this is an actual Russian word, but it simply puts me into the mindset of that accent. Do you have a "Que Word"?

    • @WalterWhiteFromTheBlock
      @WalterWhiteFromTheBlock 8 років тому

      +Jonah Tyree There's no such word as 'Nogrovia' in Russian.

    • @franciscoandrade8588
      @franciscoandrade8588 8 років тому

      +Jonah Tyree when I was trying to get the hang of my rolling r's for my Spanish Roberte was my "que word"

    • @mtache4652
      @mtache4652 8 років тому +3

      Do you mean a CUE word?

    • @JonahTyree
      @JonahTyree 8 років тому +1

      M Tache Haha! Yeah, I realized that after I wrote it. 🙈

    • @laramurphy258
      @laramurphy258 8 років тому +2

      I was born in Ireland but lost my accent cause I moved as a toddler. To slip into an Irish accent I usually imagine my Irish relatives calling my name, it's weird but it works

  • @claras9990
    @claras9990 8 років тому

    i love your chanel keep doing it

  • @netsurfer10000
    @netsurfer10000 8 років тому

    Awesome content. Seems like the animation quality dropped a little this tine, but it's still great.

  • @daviddavidson1090
    @daviddavidson1090 9 років тому +10

    So if he was an ambitious southerner who constantly had to endear himself to rich folks in order to further his political career, as an intelligent individual, might he not alter his speech to sound more like one of them, so as not to come off as uneducated? It's not completely beyond comprehension, and that's why his accent doesn't bother me at all. I have lived in the South my entire life.

  • @tyger5645
    @tyger5645 6 років тому +12

    Kevin spacey is a touchy subject now

  • @dimmimoto
    @dimmimoto 6 років тому

    Got a masterclass ad with Spacey before the video. Neat.

  • @ivangartenhaus4276
    @ivangartenhaus4276 9 років тому

    fantastic video

  • @westechmedia4567
    @westechmedia4567 6 років тому +17

    Kevin Spacey's fake accent is the least of his f*cking problems.

    • @selimfurkandalgic9548
      @selimfurkandalgic9548 4 роки тому +1

      Then dont watch this video. No one forces you to watch it what is your problem dude ?

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 8 років тому +3

    I feel like Spacey's character is supposed to be a surreal archetype (he does talk to the camera and no one else can hear him, after all), and that's why he sounds like a southern plantation owner from the 1850s.

    • @sirmount2636
      @sirmount2636 8 років тому +3

      I think it's to evoke the "elegant evil" perception people have of the Antebellum South.

  • @kataisa3
    @kataisa3 7 років тому +2

    Spacey's southern accent was positively sublime in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil"

  • @KittyGuerrillaFilms
    @KittyGuerrillaFilms 9 років тому

    this is fascinating - thank you!

  • @yurismir1
    @yurismir1 9 років тому +3

    @ Tommy Shelby: Just because Aussie accents and southern American accents have 1 thing in common, doesn't mean they have _everything_ in common

  • @manwittaplan9596
    @manwittaplan9596 9 років тому +8

    all I got to say is southern accent is the most American awesome freaking accent in USA

  • @alexsh4517
    @alexsh4517 7 років тому

    I love the video quality of this channel

  • @AmitaWow
    @AmitaWow 8 років тому

    I love your content!

  • @dressed2thee9s
    @dressed2thee9s 3 роки тому +3

    Why'd you have to show a Steve Irwin clip? I just started sobbing real hard. rip steve 😭

  • @marikomagnus
    @marikomagnus 9 років тому +3

    Actually, his accent is the accent of a person from the south who grew up with a father who had delusions of grandeur, but now starts to fade because he's lived in DC for too long.

  • @TurrisBlancus
    @TurrisBlancus 8 років тому

    That is so cool! More Language videos!!!!

  • @matthiaska9922
    @matthiaska9922 9 років тому

    thank you for educating me!

  • @romandal8770
    @romandal8770 6 років тому +7

    This... has not aged well....

  • @edg6762
    @edg6762 6 років тому +8

    Philadelphia never adopted this r-dropping phenomenon. Philadelphia has historically been rhotic and has influenced American English

    • @cathallawlor989
      @cathallawlor989 6 років тому +2

      Its Aquatii ahahahahahahahha you see the subject matter?

    • @almatt386
      @almatt386 6 років тому +1

      Its Aquatii vox and pedos go hand in hand. I guess the pics of rapey spacey with shirtless Asian boys are just mere accusations

    • @edg6762
      @edg6762 6 років тому

      Al Matt Kevin pulled a Keyser Soze on everyone. walks off without a limp

  • @JayronWhitehaus
    @JayronWhitehaus 9 років тому

    Wildly interesting!! I miss linguistics so much.

  • @vegitausa
    @vegitausa 9 років тому

    Very insightful.

  • @another90daystochangethis34
    @another90daystochangethis34 6 років тому +5

    Who is here after the kiddy diddler exposition?

  • @lilpwnige
    @lilpwnige 8 років тому +5

    It's pretty futile to judge media through the lens of reality. While Kevin Spacey's accent may in actuality not reflect a South Carolina accent, he reflects the "popular" idea of what a South Carolina accent is in the minds of people who aren't from the region. It sounds plausible enough to potentially be from that region, and it's dramatic enough to be compelling in the series.
    In most of the scenes i would hate to see Kevin Spaces impression, replaced by this guy's (1:19) actual voice.

  • @Mafr0
    @Mafr0 8 років тому

    Great video

  • @strwbryblondi07
    @strwbryblondi07 9 років тому

    Informative and illustrative video, nice job! Makes me miss grad school in sociolinguistics.
    The only critique I have is when talking about the Southern Shift in "eh" sounds you show Beyoncé saying "men". Like many southerners, she says it like "min" which is the pin-pen merger, another southern feature, but not the southern shift where "bed" sounds like "bay-ed", for example

  • @masterimbecile
    @masterimbecile 8 років тому +3

    The Devil went dahn to Jorjuh he was lookin for a soul tah steeel. He was in a bahd, he was way buh-hahnd, an he was willin to mayke a deeel.
    Waiting to see if anyone knows which song I'm referring to :o)

  • @soisyourface1234
    @soisyourface1234 7 років тому +3

    I have disgraced my southern brothers by adopting a Yankee accent. I've been born and raised in Louisiana all my life and I talk like some random northern American.

  • @copychef
    @copychef 7 років тому

    Vox clips are just too good.

  • @LB-sy2td
    @LB-sy2td 7 років тому +1

    They didn't mention Southern Louisiana which is also R-less ("Non-Rhotic") who has their own distinctive accent.