The laws that they were discussing literally hold those giant monopolies accountable while making the consumer immune from any liability what so ever. Honestly, how many people are trying to buy meat from their neighbors farm compared to from the grocery store? The truth is that those laws DO protect you.
@Old chunk of coal. They're no clueless. 52% live in urban centers like cities, 33% live in urban clusters, and only the remaining 15% live in rural areas where selling beef to their neighbors is possible. Maybe read the jungle by upton sinclair those regulations are there because of massive public health issues before those regulations were enacted after people started to move into cities in the early 20th century. That is a real issue that we've had to face before.
@Old chunk of coal. I lived in a town that had a 3:1 ratio of cattle to people for nearly 10 years (since that seems to be your criteria of who knows what they're talking about). The rules the guy mentioned were clearly in place for a reason and even Joe had to push back on what he was suggesting. Maybe you missed it but doubling the price of all meat in the country so a few rural folks can profit off of meat that has as many health checks as the wet markets in China is a bit delusional.
@@jessicalacasse6205 Why do you need that? For companies control all the meat in America. They often have bacteria and other problems in their facilities. What do you think it’s harder to keep clean, a great big factory, or a small local slaughterhouse? This is common sense dude. The small family farm got killed by big government regulation. All of it was in the name of protecting you. It does not protect you. All it does is put small local farmers out of business and allow great big corporate farming. That’s the exact opposite of what we should have from my health perspective an environmental perspective a cost perspective and it’s what’s better for people and animals. If someone in your neighborhood runs a small slaughterhouse he’s feeding his family from meat processed in that slaughterhouse. He has invested interest in making sure that slaughterhouse is clean because he’s feeding his family and his friends. Place and foods doesn’t give a goddamn. To Tyson food that’s all about profit. There used to be slaughter houses in every town in every neighborhood. Small processing facilities. Actually most communities probably had several. That’s why competition is good. This is one of Joe Rogan‘s Blindspot‘s. He thinks government is good. He thinks regulations are needed. No they are not. We were just fine for generations without onerous regulations. You don’t need regulations on a small local scale. People zone self interest well went out. When you need regulation is when you have a really huge corporations fucking people over and out for nothing but a big profit motive.
@@nedhill1242 you did read it wrong was i meant was they put rules so you cannot do it small scale they made a monopoly ... not expert on usa laws but no meat can be bought in canada without goverment proof which is only gave at major slaughter house... feel like usa system isn nt that much different ...
@@jessicalacasse6205 OK. Sorry about that Jessica. What they did in America was, they passed all of these regulations back in the 70s and 80s that killed all of the small local processors. The weird thing is you can process turkeys chickens rabbits etc. You just cannot slaughter hogs and beef. The rules have to go to a USDA, which is the US Department of agriculture, certified slaughterhouse. But they are not many of those because they are very expensive and very tightly regulated. So if you’re a small farmer with 50 or 100 head of cattle you have to either buy the trucks and trailers or rent trucks and trailers to haul your cows and your pigs a long distance and then pay this processor a bunch of money to slaughter in process your meat. That’s fucking insane. There is a bill pending that has a bunch of cosponsors but it has been getting blocked for about five years. That bill is to allow people to process themselves are use a local processor for their hogs and their beef as long as they do not sell it across state lines. And that’s how it should be. The federal government in America should not be getting involved in anything that happens within the border of a state which would be like a province in Canada. As long as it’s not going from one state to another state or one province to another province it’s not interstate commerce which means the federal government should not have anything to do with it. This is where government gets way too big way too controlling and doesn’t help consumers it hurts consumers! Because the government doesn’t give a damn about the people. The government cares about money power and control. People that didn’t already know that have learned that over the last two years because of Covid!
I have been following Jon Jandai from Thailand. He has a simple philosophy that he follows and advocates. Mr Jandai is minimalist in his entrepreneurship and his farming methods.
The price of food would sky rocket!! Yeah everything this guy is saying sounds great but in the real world it won’t work!! Right now you can’t get these lazy ass people to work waiting tables or fast food and you’re telling me they are going to go work on a chicken farm?!?!? Good luck with that!!! It works for this guy on a small scale but to produce all food like this……… the poor to middle class would starve.
@@leonbordelon1188 the reason people don't work retail or hospitality isnt just laziness. Those jobs lack human spirit. It's a soul crushing job that everyone who's never done look down on those who do. Imagine showing up, day in and out, and people think you're a dropkick loser just because you're trying to pay bills. Add to the fact that past generations told kids specifically not to work those "loser" jobs, instead go to college. Society created this labour shortage.
Joe I'm a agricultural engineer and have won a national science foundation award for fighting food deserts with food computers. You can definitely feed people without factory farming, especially today.
A lot of "waste" is given to animals to convert it into usable resources. Mostly surplus and damaged produce. We have a bigger problem with people throwing out food after the farm stage.
@@BruceWayneeeee These regulations benefit big business because they limit competition. Big business LOVES REGULATION! They spend billions on lobbyists influencing how they are written and billions more on lawyers esuring they remain compliant. The little guy can't afford any of that. But I don't need a federal inspector when I ca do the inspection myself. I see the animal I'll be eating before its slaughtered. I visit the meat locker where it's burchered. I have a personal relationship with both the farmer who raised it and the guy who owns the meat locker where it will be processed. I'm 1000 times more confident in the beef I eat than I would be with a g-store product even though it isn't federally inspected. That's the issue I can buy a1/4 of beef and it doesn't need to be inspected. But if all I can afford is a couple steaks or roasts I'm SOOL. How does that make sense?? I can buy 30 steaks at a time but if I buy just 1 the farmer has committed a crime??
@@BruceWayneeeee Because its not being done right and its there to control the markets not only by the numbers they process but also from being able to lobby govt bodies. Look at the dairy industry thats a prime example. There is absolutely no need to homogenize milk and farmer are given quotas to regulate price so they dump large amounts of milk. Slaughter houses where meat is 'quality checked'. Have you ever seen how fast the process a carcass there is never enough time to have quality control at the pace the work at.
Thats the game. Democrats want to make regulations that help corporations, Republicans want to cut regulations to help corporations. They get everyone to argue about doing the same thing.
(Standard 5.56 NATO cartridges start at about $0.37 a round and continue upward to more than $1.00). ..slaughterhouse price for a pig is 60 to 100 $...SO ALL MALEVOLENCE AND TOO EXPENSIVE EVEN GREED IS NOT THE REASON NO MORE...
Very interesting conversation, and a very convincing perspective from your guest on why we should decentralize and go back to the natural ways to cultivate and produce our food
Another odd thing done is, on land with a natural spring aka the watering hole, to keep birds from landing and even cut down how much poo goes into it by running a string threw the middle of the hole both ways to make a cross, extremely effective
Ever since I started doing my shopping at a local farmers market instead of a chain grocer, I've felt purer, more energetic, mentally sharper, and healthier overall
Joel used to do talks at the college I went to in Iowa. The dude is a legend. I’d talk to my conventional farming buddies about what Joel says and they’d laugh at me.
Yeah he did mean confetti. He was talking about Chaff Defenses, Chaff Grenades, Chaff Pods and so on. They are meant to fuck with infrared, infared, or laser guided munitions by throwing off the sensors with mass random reflection.
As a producer, I was twice the price of the grocery store 20 years ago, but offered organic, which wasn't as available at the grocers. But our prices have stayed pretty much the same for all 20 years, because we became more efficient and scaled up along the way, and we're neck and neck with organic labeled store prices. The difference is we're not just a label, we're truly regenerative for the environment and we're producing a more nutrient dense product for the consumer. We're also heavily into growing organic grain, and use the regenerative approach in that enterprise as well. That's what allows us to be so competitive. We have more revenue streams and they are all interdependent and overlapping. We don't want to serve only the status eaters who can afford to pay double or triple. That's kind of what Joel does, no disrespect intended. He has a straight shot into Washington DC, its burbs, and all the elites who live there. Our situation is similar in that we have a 10 million person strong pool of consumers in the Chicagoland, Peoria and Bloomington Normal area. But we have a lot of regular people who are on the band wagon, and more and more locals are jumping on year after year. I've never had a problem with the USDA (we are 100% USDA inspected), I've always approached them with the "folks, how can I do better" approach. I view them as members of my team. Thankfully we're seeing common sense changes to regulations, and it's important that we continue to move forward. We all have the same goals, to supply nourishment comfort and security for the consumer as safely as possible. We're considerably larger producers than Joel, but our products are the stars of the show, not us. We're focused on the consumer's needs, they are in the drivers seat. They have proven over and over that they'll reach past the conventional garbage and pay up for quality IF you can keep your price within 15-20% of the bad alternatives. At the end of our 2nd 20 year farm plan, we'll be a 10-15k acre operation. However, that's going to be a total of 40 years of never taking a dime out for ourselves and reinvesting everything back into improvement and growth. That's farming.
you should write a book and or do videos on how to farm properly, imagine people beginning the proper way of farming and not needing 20- 30 years of experimenting the wrong way... your book would give a heads up so to speak
Growing food in many ways is like printing money. It makes sense to reinvest as much as possible back into land and infrastructure. I can imagine feeding all the US with a million permaculture farms. It would get people healthier, more in touch with their food supply and so much more.
But if you didn’t have to pay all of those licensing fees than your products could be less, right? And Joel is not about being a “star” he’s about waking people up, since you want to sit in the back seat. Funny how we (those of us watching this video) know who Joel is. But not you. Because you’re not speaking up and out. And don’t think that the USDA won’t regulate you out of existence if a new “common sense” regulation comes out. Just like a detective, the usda isn’t your friend. Or a member of your team. And it’s funny how now they have a “garden registry” (I’m watching this in 2022, obviously. Soon it won’t be a suggestion.)
I wish I could afford to eat your meat. Wow, I never thought I would ever say anything like that on my life 😆. But yeah, I can't afford to eat your meat and can't afford to not eat your meat so there's that....
Kinda, look at modern pork facility, modern factory farming, is a misnomer, Think more lab farm, lab farming, cause if you violate lab standards you get a disaster. I don't necessarily disagree with him....I'm not informed enough, but his protrail of in particular the pork industry "factory farming" is highly inaccurate.
@@JamesThomas-pj2lx highly inaccurate? Pork plants arent labs. They process animals that spend their short lives confined on cement, with no sunlight. Nothing Joel says is highly inaccurate. Watch some slaughter house videos. Those arent scientists with the sharp knives.
@@daves9452 There's no argument to be had, farms are getting more and more strict from FDA regulations and Animal Rights being included more into the legal scene. In fact it's to the convenience of the "factory" farm producers to have their cattle be in the most optimal conditions, "stressed" meat is bad meat and I reckon some of these "poor and abused" cattle live off better than some HUMANS. All the biased points this old man states are things from the pre - regulation 80's and 90's. Humidity expendature, temperature management, ventilation, manure management, correct dosage of additives ( vitamin D he mentions ), half intensive / half extensive management ( movement ), vaccine programs, there's a LOT of improvement in factory farms.
I studied permaculture in 2016 and went to see the premiere of the incredible documentary about Joel and his family ’Polyfaces Farm’ with my son and it was one of the best things we’ve even seen. I’d love to be able to meet him go and see his farm someday 💞💞💞
If you haven’t watched “Food Inc” please do, this same gentleman shows how to run an organic farm and describes how Monsanto and other conglomerates are destroying our children’s future.
@Liz bth tbh, I paused it during the middle and got some Burger King :) In my defense, I was in college abroad, we don't have Burger King in my country, it was something exotic for me :)
The taco bell app says in small print on the order review screen that the food may contain chemicals known to the state of california to cause cancer, birth defects, or reproductive harm . There is also another disclaimer stating that the sodium level is not suitable for human consumption and warns against consumption by individuals with heart problems. These warnings are literally in writing
Great information to get out there, I grew up on a small family farm and everything he said is true. Small farms are the best way to grow food, but small farmers can't compete with the factory farms. Just like a mom and pop store can't compete with Wal-Mart and Target.
Yup. I'm a farmer and those big foreign companies and families (in my area it's Dutch and swiss that pretty much took over the land around us) and we cant compete since they're paying huge amounts of money for land etc. Even tractors are getting extremely expensive since these huge farms are buying them regardless of the price (I know they would be expensive regardless since all the tech). All the family farms are being pushed out by these guys because they will pay people crazy money for the land around you, not allowing for the family farms to grow. Location is in central alberta for reference.
@@DoYourResearchBossMan Those giant super high tech John Deer tractors that can only be repaired by the company wow ,watched a couple those vids on UA-cam the money is ridiculous to operate and maintain .
@@fishfire_2999 yup. And the amount of maintenance required on the sensors is ridiculous. Bought 1 JD and had the repair truck out over 20 times, that's what you call quality lol
Don't need to compete, just find someone local to go into partnership with. Get your best stuff and sell at a massive premium to local restaurants. The rest you eat or sell at local markets. Don't play their game and you won't lose!
@@DoYourResearchBossMan what about finding a friend who is internet savy and getting them to build you a website where you can sell your products directly to the consumer? Possible? That is one of the ways that Joel Salatin has made is farm work!
I recently started my conversion over to being self reliant and farming. By this i have 30 acres to use and I’m trying to use every inch of land to my advantage for my animals.
I really hope that this situation kick starts a resurgence in home gardening. I started my first ever garden this year and the self-satisfaction of watching a seed that you planted grow into a plant that will give you food is amazing. If everything goes right, I'll have a big enough of a harvest to give food away and keep myself fed.
I live on a 20 acre homestead. I have about 10 acres available for row crops. My garden isn't that big, it's about an acre but next year I'll be better prepared and hopefully a bit more experienced for a bigger one.
@@zacharysmith4787 , as a midwesterner who's lived around mid sized farms and gardened my whole life (I'm 39), I find your naivety hilarious. Good fucking luck.
I have been reading articles that Joel has produced for years on how he operates his farm. I think that the simplest way to describe his methods is that he tries to operate a farm as close to a natural system as possible. Usually very simple and "outside the box".
So as a chef you cooked inside these processing plants? Lol ask somebody who has worked in the plants. The USDA breathes down their back to make sure everything is as clean/proper as can be.
@@howard5871 I have about five years and some change now of supporting F&B and med device manufacturers. The level of scrutiny one receives from the FDA, USDA etc. varies based on your willingness to play the game. A former customer of mine has its products on the shelves in gas stations and grocery stores across the country. The conditions of the plants were disgusting, employees paid at minimum wage and had to endure 12+ hour shifts during peak times. If you believe for a second that the agencies regulate Fortune 500 companies and billion dollar business the same as the local granola manufacturer, you're in for a treat!
He ment to say "confetti" not "graffiti", he was talking about Chaff systems. Chaff launches shredded aluminum foil in the air to disable Infrared, Infared, and Laser Guidance sensors with mass random reflection. As in Chaff Grenades, Chaff Pods, Chaff Launchers, Chaff Missiles, and other Chaff Dispenser Type Defense Systems.
Not Infrared afaik, atleast not passive IR sensors. Passive IR sensors work by forming a picture from IR radiation, things like the engine, wing edges and such are hot and send out IR radiation. Which a passive sensor can pick up. But totally correct for active systems such as radar, which requires sending a wave and then sensing the reflection. The chaff messes up the reflection and scatters it.
Chaff isn’t used against IR guidance. It’s used against radar guidance whereby creating a larger target & fooling the missile into locking in to the chaff rather than the ship or aircraft. In the case of IR guided weapons, flares are used, creating a hotter target and fooling the missile
I’m really lucky to be able to buy 100% organic grass fed beef directly from a small farmer that only has 30 cows. Steaks, mince, liver anything I ask for and only 20km north.
You definitely can if everyone did a little farming on their own. But most people don’t do any farming throughout their entire lifetime and are completely dependent on consumerism while there’s a small amount of people doing all the work to support the food industry. We just need more people to start producing food whether for themselves or for the industry and this is something anyone and everyone can do to some degree with things like small gardens, potted plants, greenhouses, and hydroponics you can set up almost anywhere
The Joel Salatin method has helped our farm immensely, and we are happy to see our hero speak for farmers like us. A nation is waking up, seeing the gaping cracks in its factory farm system. We are ZOE Farms: a family-owned, family-operated farm following globally recognized best practices in producing food the way nature intended. We believe that food, when grown in accordance with the laws of natural systems, can heal our bodies and our lands at the same time. Thank you Joe for this episode!
I try to buy farm food whenever I can. your other problem is distribution. wholefoods used to promote step 3, 4 and 5 chicken... they barely exist anymore.
This guy is probably thee best interviewer ever. People talk to him. He asks interesting questions of very interesting people. Mainstream news media is losing to this guy.
That's because Boomers are still watching mainstream media. In 10 yrs, maybe 20 yrs max, they'll all die and will be replaced with the new generation of viewers who likes podcasts
I like this guy a lot. I grew up helping my grand parents on a little family farm. And it’s awesome to see a farmer who knows his shit, talk about how you could run a farm like this.
so sick. i often envisioned something like this inspired by this TED talk about holistic farming ua-cam.com/video/vpTHi7O66pI/v-deo.html&feature=emb_logo
@Dick Fageroni actually, it's deseases transmitted from animals to other animals that can sometimes be transmitted to humans. In the meat production industry where animals are living so close to each other in unhealthy conditions there is a higher chance of animals transmitting deseases to one another and then those deseases to mutate and be transmitted to humans. So, this guy's neighbor's are probably alright. (The reason viruses sometimes come from China is not because someone is keeping 4-5 chickens in a house)
@Jacob Monnin It is because of wet markets, where many different types of animals are kept close to each other. Although wet markets exist in other countries, most do not have the same variety of animals and therefore as much potential for the transmission of diseases and viruses.
Two of my favorite dudes talking some of the most important truth we all seem to forget about in the McDs drive-thru on the way to walmart (me too sometimes).
Excellent Video! Joel S. has so many good ideas and sees the BIG picture so well! He understands that small family farm products would be healthier for people and will cut costs in medical, improve daily health in the overall, and the food would taste better on the whole, and would take a step forward toward healing the planet!
Seriously, this what humans should do.......COMMUNICATE stop shitting on people with differing views and try to understand people. It’s the only way to speed up our progress on this planet
Benny Liquid if an expert is given a free platform to speak on, it is very likely the same information that you’d get from whatever they would write.. and it’s much easier to listen to someone for 3 hours than sit down and read 300 pages
@@andrewmorosky4697 It's called audiobook. Are you aware of what reading can do that podcasts/conversations can't? Pay me, I accept PayPal, and I can explain it to you. Good luck dude.
@@andrewmorosky4697 Joe literally tells you he is an idiot, don't pay too much attention. You must not know the crucial books that are out there. You can literally have a computer read a book aloud, instead of having to buy the more expensive audible. I am a monster.
Joe is so influential, I would like to see him in politics, but who wants to jump in That garbage can. Local politics maybe, and I've seen factory farms, vs. free range, and thus guy is right! The daily death toll is the first chore if the day. Picking up dead chickens. Ughhhh. But local, it breaks my back, and my muscles, but I'm planting all the high yield food I can. Cabbage, potatoes, etc...no chickens, I'm in urban setting, but 5'x25' of soil borders the parking lot. I'm filling it with food!
As a student of Joel and sustainable agriculture for years, I know that a lot of what Joel is saying is going over most people's head. It's almost like he needs a translator to help people who aren't familiar with this stuff (like Joe) to fully understand.
To have many more people working on a farm means that the revenue of that farm must go up substantially to afford paying those wages, which means that food prices have to go up significantly at the store level. Not necessarily a positive or negative thing, just a fact. It might also be a challenge to find many more people who want to work in agriculture. A very interesting topic for sure.
I love steak....I also have done research in microbiology (disclaimer: my research was in environmental microbiology and astrobiology, but NOT related to factory farming. (hoping to get published soon!))...factory farming is a problem so entwined in our culture I have no idea where to begin. We ARE growing antibiotic resistant "super bugs" in feedlots. It's a fact. But we love cheap steak and burgers.....good luck on this one....
What did you research exactly? I think astrobiology in particular is increadibly fascinating :) I hope, that this issue will get resolved, once articifial (lab grown) meat is much cheaper.
You dont Just like it you're addicted, that's what addiction is barely being able to go a day without a stimulant whether its certain foods, pills, sex etc
Hopefully we make more significant strides in meat cloning in the coming years, which makes it less economical to have factory farms. We all know there will be no regulation of factory farms when it comes to ensuring the inevitable bio-weapons don't drive us extinct, because the free market needs to regulate itself! Hurr durr
@@aldoushuxley5953 We were looking for halophile bacteria in local soil samples. I took some of the bacteria I was able to isolate from soil samples and grew them in extremely high sodium content growth media (much like the briny and possibly damp soil MIGHT be on Mars?). (10% NaCl in this case). Most bacteria won't tolerate those conditions. I was able to isolate 4 different species that grew at those levels. One of those species MAY be a previously uncatalogued species in the Marinobacter genus. The best part was, and this is often the case in science, the most interesting result had nothing to do with the initial goal. We did show that many bacteria can indeed tolerate high sodium levels, but, Marinobacter bacterium shouldn't be where I found them....lol....
Interesting you mention... Cities grew extremely fast after the Cold War via government expansion. The only farms and packers that could keep up with the consolidating demand at that time were the largest operations. They are now known as the big four. The way our food market is shaped doesn’t meet the natural demand curve that people would otherwise create in a natural distribution. The main problems with the food market is cities and cities already don’t make any sense in the wake of the last 50 years of technological advance. They create unrealistic market demands from consumers that large corporations have a lock on holding that market place hostage from the producer. Cities are en economic burden. They started as the future of economics. And they brought the future! No we need to deconstruct them. They manufacture scarcity, destroy the ecosystem, hurt Americans, and America as a concept....Communists love that shit...
Not enough farmland for grassfed. Trying to force a large segment of the population to be vegans would only bring rise to cannibalism. History has shown that repeatedly. Secondly, many species of animals would be driven to extinction from over hunting. This is just plain commonsense
@@pollypurree1834 factory farming takes up more farming land than it would take to feed the crops diectly to humans instead of feeding the animals factory farming takes more water too
Actually a lot of our problems would be solved if we stopped looking at animals as pets and transferring human emotions on them. Cows give us food, milk and leather the whole damn animal is used. I’d say 1/2 of people in the USA have never killed an animal and couldn’t hunt anything to save their lives and those people look at a cow and think it’s just so cute and we should never eat such a majestic beast. Is there something we could do to make things more sustainable or whatever? Sure there is. No one is going to want to pay for it.
This guy, Joel Salatin, is the MAN when it comes to advocating for sustainable, regenerative farming practices. If anyone here is just getting interested in this concept- he has several books and lots of UA-cam videos. Some other good names in that space who are worth checking out on YT as well, are Greg Judy (mainly for sheep & cattle farming) & Justin Rhodes (for homesteading).
Its the entire infrastructure. Im a market. I order 50 steaks from your farm, they expire in 2 weeks (orwhatever), i have 2 weeks to either sell those steaks or throw them out (orgivethemaway) now i need 50 more steaks. Its only been two weeks and im one store. Repeat for every grocery store everywhere. So you either need alot of cows or have bigger cows.
It isn't *the* problem. Is it a big/huge contributor? Yeah. But you can change things bottom-up that will make significant impacts too. People altering their diet is more the problem (i.e. the demand).
@@michaelharris8111- Sorry but that's entirely wrong. Markets are not ordering meat from farms. Meat comes from the processor and is sold in large cuts called primals. These large cuts are kept frozen until they are needed, then they are broken down into steaks, roasts, etc. As you can imagine these frozen primals can be kept for months. Smaller markets, without the capability to break down or store primal cuts, are getting their steaks from bigger markets. But they are going to restock every couple days not weeks. If you're a small market and you've got 2 weeks worth of steaks taking up your limited cold storage you probably lack the knowledge to run a successful market... I should also note that in larger cities the demand is such that most primal cut won't need to be frozen. Large g-stores will sell 50 steaks a day easily.
This discustion is very important, especially regarding hidden cost and resistent super bugs. That being said, the guy is - as we all are - quite biased in the way he depicts things. Living in Switzerland for example I happen to know that most of our food production is not ecen close to what he describes. This only happens in small farms in rural regions. Also swiss farming only works because it's heavily subsidized by the state (which libertarians might not like so much I assume). Also, Switzerland imports a lot of food and would not be able to sustain itself without it. Don't get me wrong: The guy has a very important message but always research what people have left out of their narrative (intentional or not).
It's so crazy that a few bucks can sway even information nowadays. It was one thing when they were paying off politicians but when you start allowing money to influence science and facts, its so evil to a crazy degree
We can totally feed our populations using sustainable methods, but super cheap food will be a thing of the past. I have 20 acres, and can see in the numbers it takes about 80 acres to provide all the needs of 400 houses. I only do fruit and veg, so to do love stock i would need more space, but then would be totally input free. And i have never once used chemicals for anything its totally unnecessary. There is biological ways for everything, but they take time and effort.
Swizterland also has a population of just 8.5 million.. so I wouldnt call it biased when a signficantly higher percentage of the world population relys on these sort of factory farms. Unlike the scheiss usländer, the swiss cultures very “green”. Its a shame we cant all be like swiss and other northern countries in europe..
@@mistarizlaWe are green within our borders which I like very much. But we also have one of the biggest per capita consumption of goods and services in the world. We use tons of ressources from all around the world. I admit not to be an expert on farming but as of right now we also import tons of food. In a free market with competitors from places with fewer acricultural regulations and with lover salaries not even our subsidized food can compete.
We need more podcasts with interesting people like this, and people who are experts in their field. We need far less podcasts with Joe's clueless friends (Michael Yo, Tom Papa, etc)
Rob Mason couldn’t agree more. And also that liberal girl he had on recently. The one who acted “dumb” when it came to normal topics but then jumped on the chance to advance her liberal agenda when it came up.
@@user-4491 this ignores why it is that way, because the workers won't get paid enough to justify them treating the animals nicely, and money talks at the end of the day and people want the food to be as cheap as possible, so shortcuts must be taken. but that aside they keep the farms going through natural disasters, it's uncanny we live in an era where food production can be taken for granted and it's very easy to talk about animal cruelty but not about the illegal immigrants working for peanuts who institute that cruelty, or the economic reality of having all the animals in a warehouse, it's cheaper, the workers don't have to go too far to get the work done, as opposed to the wagyu farms where you aren't permitted to handle the cows without completing the internship to get trained to handle them correctly. if you want well treated animals, you have to make it economically viable. wagyu beef costs how much per pound? those animals are treated the best on the planet, the food is not cheap as a result, the work pays well. if you want that everywhere instead of the cruelty then address the economics. this guy, on the pod, has some of the cheapest food products in the nation, but it runs up to a higher cost overall because more is expected of the workers on location and their payment isn't being forwarded to the government.
Chickens are kept in crowded conditions to inhibit them from moving around alot, increasing their fattiness, otherwise they would be too lean, which would suck.
Food used to be grown predominantly by family farms. People don't want to work without the industrial business benefits of vacation, health insurance etc. Families covered their members costs without federal intervention.
@@zeffez8161 the answer is globalist is just a term to simplify anyone who has any ideas that sound like it'd result in multiple states or countries working together. It's not really a belief as much as it is just a strawman so they can then connect it to an idea that didn't work
@@stevsux4442 Pointing to the numerous failures (er, catastrophes) that have resulted from the centralization of power, and then drawing the _obvious_ connection between that and those who call for larger government / global coordination of government is not a straw-man. It's just basic pattern recognition.
If you wanna feed the masses we need to focus on hydroponic/aquaponic style farming and you could convert any warehouse around a city to mass produce vegetables combined with the standard farms there would be no food shortages. Why this isn’t a standard thing yet is beyond me
cost. electrical cost, set up and maintenance. obviously for weed or other cash crops its worth the cost. or up in alaska its common (a tomato is $5). but the sun is free, soil nutrients are cheaper. hydroponics require entire system breakdowns and cleaning. one pipe in a crack can be a hard reset on everything connected to that reservoir. cleaning and maintaining is easier in a closet size setup, and less moving pats equals less broken stuff. but in a giant facility with dozens of humans, forklifts, mistakes and hundreds of lights cost add up quick. unless a crop can got for at least a few dollars a gram its not profitable to compete with outdoor farmers.
@The Catmother correct the same people preaching capitalism use every loophole possible which shows there true intentions, people don't seem to have realized humans turn symbols in gods, AkA GOLD is GOD
@The Catmother not capitalsim... collusion. They keep everyone out and sue you into oblivion with special protections if you're honest. Free speech my ass. Not that I'm a fan of hers, but even Oprah, one of the most powerful women in the world, got shut down when she tried to expose them. It's a joke
I worked at a chicken plant for three years caught chickens for about a year and then work that feed mill for about 8 years. When I caught chickens you would stuff 14 until a little cage probably 1 ft tall 2 ft wide 3 ft deep. I had to transfer from that job cuz I couldn't take it anymore
If regular family farms went back to raising quite a few head of cattle, hogs, chickens ect. We wouldn’t need factory farming. But the government and the markets and companies have made it hard on small guys. We got out of hogs in 07 and we still have about 300 head of cattle, but we are the only people in our county that still raise cattle.
Of course you can...we need to diversify food security + encourage people to convert from ornamental to edible landscaping. Our property is now full of fruit trees, berry bushes and other easy to maintain perennials. I still do annual gardens but want to leave something behind at each property. Now saving/looking to purchase land and start farming veggies, medicinal plants, etc.
Industrial Agriculture is what feeds the masses. It is the most sustainable way to produce enough protein to feed billions of people. Not to mention the fertilizer that comes from “factory farms” needed to make organic farms possible.
I live in the UK. I go to the abbertior and buy a quarter of beef at a time to store in the freezer, organic grass fed and dry aged. Works out as cheap as battery farmed supermarket chicken per lb.
He’s absolutely right, regulations, taxes, and government intervention protect the big farmers/processors and hurt the small farmers/processors more than anything else. If you don’t agree, consider what lower interest rates, corn subsidies, and ethanol subsidies would do to the price of farm ground. They’ll raise the price, which causes nearby ranchers to use less ground per animal. Also, like it or not, increasing the minimum wage and payroll taxes will always drive automation and/or push jobs overseas. The former causing “factory farming” and the latter leaving it out of our control.
Not true. The regulation (like antitrust laws, bans on toxic growth hormones and pesticides, etc.) benefit the smaller businesses and the consumer. Without any regulation, there would be no limit to monopolies, and all of our food and goods would be controlled by a few massive companies with absolute power to screw over consumers.
@@camthesaxman3387 no that’s what they’re meant to do. In reality grants and subsidies always go to the larger farms to meet environmental standards (which i think is fair btw, if the voters want to force a farmer to change something, they should pay for it). Sometimes smaller farms don’t qualify. Organic farming can be successfully scaled up. Pesticide and hormone regulations are indifferent to farm size.
@@camthesaxman3387 in fact take a look at the netherlands right now, thousands of small farmers being forced off their land by bogus regulations that they just met 3 years ago only to get changed again. Who’s gonna come in and buy the land? Large ag corporations and housing development conglomerates.
I have recently started trying some all vegetarian diet fed open range raised meat, specifically steak and chicken, and all i gotta say is wow its so much rich in flavor and settles better in my stomach. I have light IBS.
I am going to be so bummed when the day comes where you cant watch JRE on youtube. However props to Joe Rogan for getting 100 million from Spotify. I hope you make Young Jamie a multi millionaire.
$0.99 cheeseburgers are unheard of now and I live in New Mexico where living is supposed to be really affordable. McDouble at McDonald's are closing in on $3. Probably like $2.75 for what is a pretty small burger.
Funny how all these laws that are supposed to "protect the consumer" seem be to protecting giant food monopolies from competition instead.
Jester2415 exactly
The laws that they were discussing literally hold those giant monopolies accountable while making the consumer immune from any liability what so ever. Honestly, how many people are trying to buy meat from their neighbors farm compared to from the grocery store?
The truth is that those laws DO protect you.
@Old chunk of coal. They're no clueless. 52% live in urban centers like cities, 33% live in urban clusters, and only the remaining 15% live in rural areas where selling beef to their neighbors is possible. Maybe read the jungle by upton sinclair those regulations are there because of massive public health issues before those regulations were enacted after people started to move into cities in the early 20th century. That is a real issue that we've had to face before.
Jester2415 tons of the same thing in banking
@Old chunk of coal. I lived in a town that had a 3:1 ratio of cattle to people for nearly 10 years (since that seems to be your criteria of who knows what they're talking about). The rules the guy mentioned were clearly in place for a reason and even Joe had to push back on what he was suggesting. Maybe you missed it but doubling the price of all meat in the country so a few rural folks can profit off of meat that has as many health checks as the wet markets in China is a bit delusional.
I trust the farmer down the road more than I trust Tyson meats.
what if to sell you need a certification that only slaughterhouse can give ...
@@jessicalacasse6205
Why do you need that? For companies control all the meat in America. They often have bacteria and other problems in their facilities. What do you think it’s harder to keep clean, a great big factory, or a small local slaughterhouse? This is common sense dude. The small family farm got killed by big government regulation. All of it was in the name of protecting you. It does not protect you. All it does is put small local farmers out of business and allow great big corporate farming. That’s the exact opposite of what we should have from my health perspective an environmental perspective a cost perspective and it’s what’s better for people and animals.
If someone in your neighborhood runs a small slaughterhouse he’s feeding his family from meat processed in that slaughterhouse. He has invested interest in making sure that slaughterhouse is clean because he’s feeding his family and his friends. Place and foods doesn’t give a goddamn. To Tyson food that’s all about profit.
There used to be slaughter houses in every town in every neighborhood. Small processing facilities. Actually most communities probably had several. That’s why competition is good.
This is one of Joe Rogan‘s Blindspot‘s. He thinks government is good. He thinks regulations are needed. No they are not. We were just fine for generations without onerous regulations. You don’t need regulations on a small local scale. People zone self interest well went out. When you need regulation is when you have a really huge corporations fucking people over and out for nothing but a big profit motive.
@@nedhill1242 you did read it wrong was i meant was they put rules so you cannot do it small scale they made a monopoly ... not expert on usa laws but no meat can be bought in canada without goverment proof which is only gave at major slaughter house... feel like usa system isn nt that much different ...
@@jessicalacasse6205
OK. Sorry about that Jessica.
What they did in America was, they passed all of these regulations back in the 70s and 80s that killed all of the small local processors. The weird thing is you can process turkeys chickens rabbits etc. You just cannot slaughter hogs and beef. The rules have to go to a USDA, which is the US Department of agriculture, certified slaughterhouse. But they are not many of those because they are very expensive and very tightly regulated. So if you’re a small farmer with 50 or 100 head of cattle you have to either buy the trucks and trailers or rent trucks and trailers to haul your cows and your pigs a long distance and then pay this processor a bunch of money to slaughter in process your meat. That’s fucking insane. There is a bill pending that has a bunch of cosponsors but it has been getting blocked for about five years. That bill is to allow people to process themselves are use a local processor for their hogs and their beef as long as they do not sell it across state lines. And that’s how it should be. The federal government in America should not be getting involved in anything that happens within the border of a state which would be like a province in Canada. As long as it’s not going from one state to another state or one province to another province it’s not interstate commerce which means the federal government should not have anything to do with it. This is where government gets way too big way too controlling and doesn’t help consumers it hurts consumers! Because the government doesn’t give a damn about the people. The government cares about money power and control. People that didn’t already know that have learned that over the last two years because of Covid!
@@nedhill1242 goo to see were on same side ...
He is so right about the hidden costs of factory farming that society as a whole have to pay for in the end.
I have been following Jon Jandai from Thailand. He has a simple philosophy that he follows and advocates. Mr Jandai is minimalist in his entrepreneurship and his farming methods.
you are what you eat after all
2x costs now? still factory farming in place!
The price of food would sky rocket!! Yeah everything this guy is saying sounds great but in the real world it won’t work!! Right now you can’t get these lazy ass people to work waiting tables or fast food and you’re telling me they are going to go work on a chicken farm?!?!? Good luck with that!!!
It works for this guy on a small scale but to produce all food like this……… the poor to middle class would starve.
@@leonbordelon1188 the reason people don't work retail or hospitality isnt just laziness. Those jobs lack human spirit. It's a soul crushing job that everyone who's never done look down on those who do. Imagine showing up, day in and out, and people think you're a dropkick loser just because you're trying to pay bills. Add to the fact that past generations told kids specifically not to work those "loser" jobs, instead go to college. Society created this labour shortage.
Just bought 50 acres and am following Joel’s example. Feels GOOD!
Good for you , most don't have money to buy 50 brussell sprouts nevermimd 50 acres. I hope you are grateful.
@@truthbomber7628 then buy 50 brussel sprout seeds and grow 50 brussel sprouts in a jar
2 years later now, how's it going?
Joe I'm a agricultural engineer and have won a national science foundation award for fighting food deserts with food computers. You can definitely feed people without factory farming, especially today.
I'd love to connect with you if you want to reach out on instagram
I'm gonna use Instagram for once just to see if this goes somewhere
Yeah and I'm NASA astrophysicist
@@sunny74763 haters gonna hate when they cant believe you have done something they cant.
Lol sure if you're feeding them energon cubes or other people. Im reminded that obama won the nobel peace prize for no reason.
In the US the question should “be can you feed the masses without factory farming and without WASTING 40% of the food that is produced?”
same in europe. france is pretty ok. but the rest is wasting like crazy aswell.
There is no waist look at vitamins and make up it’s all by products of agriculture
Teaching everyone how to grow their own food on a smaller scale, or using a typical residential backyard would definitely help.
The answer is “Yes”.
A lot of "waste" is given to animals to convert it into usable resources. Mostly surplus and damaged produce. We have a bigger problem with people throwing out food after the farm stage.
These regulations aren't intended to protect the consumer, they're intended to protect the corporations that lobby for them...
Bruce Wayne I mean, it provides sanitary measures so that they don’t get sued for killing people with their food... it benefits both
@@BruceWayneeeee These regulations benefit big business because they limit competition. Big business LOVES REGULATION! They spend billions on lobbyists influencing how they are written and billions more on lawyers esuring they remain compliant. The little guy can't afford any of that.
But I don't need a federal inspector when I ca do the inspection myself. I see the animal I'll be eating before its slaughtered. I visit the meat locker where it's burchered. I have a personal relationship with both the farmer who raised it and the guy who owns the meat locker where it will be processed. I'm 1000 times more confident in the beef I eat than I would be with a g-store product even though it isn't federally inspected. That's the issue I can buy a1/4 of beef and it doesn't need to be inspected. But if all I can afford is a couple steaks or roasts I'm SOOL. How does that make sense?? I can buy 30 steaks at a time but if I buy just 1 the farmer has committed a crime??
@@BruceWayneeeee Because its not being done right and its there to control the markets not only by the numbers they process but also from being able to lobby govt bodies. Look at the dairy industry thats a prime example. There is absolutely no need to homogenize milk and farmer are given quotas to regulate price so they dump large amounts of milk. Slaughter houses where meat is 'quality checked'. Have you ever seen how fast the process a carcass there is never enough time to have quality control at the pace the work at.
Thats the game. Democrats want to make regulations that help corporations, Republicans want to cut regulations to help corporations. They get everyone to argue about doing the same thing.
They're trying to keep people off the land where they belong and warehouse us in God aweful cities.
When it comes to cost, you can spend it on quality food OR you can spend it at the doctors office and pharmacy
so no real difference then
@@xxxViceroyxxx the difference is it is better to spend it on quality food and have a better quality of life.
That "OR" shouldnt be there
(Standard 5.56 NATO cartridges start at about $0.37 a round and continue upward to more than $1.00). ..slaughterhouse price for a pig is 60 to 100 $...SO ALL MALEVOLENCE AND TOO EXPENSIVE EVEN GREED IS NOT THE REASON NO MORE...
you are what you eat ...overweight disease filled nearly dead not difference between america and factory farming
Jaimie pull up my account balance.
Sorry Joe, it crashed the computer.
lmao ur name
I dont think Jaimie has the muscle mass to lift such a heavy debt
Caine K. He just got a 100 mill deal...
Ross Duncan all money is debt, homie. Read the bill itself. Fine print. Finer possibilities.
I’ve worked in meat sales for years and this has to be one of the most interesting guests Joe has had on in awhile
Hes low key talking about usda.
Very interesting conversation, and a very convincing perspective from your guest on why we should decentralize and go back to the natural ways to cultivate and produce our food
Mr. Saladin yes a legend in the sustainable food farming industry, his innovation are astonishing. Permaculture forever!
The regenerative farming movement in the UK currently is really interesting too. Building back soils and naturally healthy animals.
Cheezberger 0.99$
Fries with that 0.49$
Diarrhea - priceless
lol
Lol. Where y'all getting those prices?
@@nenew24 mc Donalds, buger king, Wendy's dollar menus
@@nenew24 its also 90% bread
@@Ace-mw9pm Um, not where I am... the dollar menu not even that anymore. I wouldn't even want something that cheap, suspect 🤣
This man said "guard geese", those chicken are better protected than the president
It’s actually amazing how well they work lol
Another odd thing done is, on land with a natural spring aka the watering hole, to keep birds from landing and even cut down how much poo goes into it by running a string threw the middle of the hole both ways to make a cross, extremely effective
Geese are awesome protectors. So loud lol.
Also I found donkeys to be very protective when kept with other animals
Lotus_877 Do they land and freak out or see it from the sky and just not land? That’s weird.
A guard goose is kinda hilarious, but it works.
Ever since I started doing my shopping at a local farmers market instead of a chain grocer, I've felt purer, more energetic, mentally sharper, and healthier overall
Joel used to do talks at the college I went to in Iowa. The dude is a legend. I’d talk to my conventional farming buddies about what Joel says and they’d laugh at me.
I think the word he was looking for was, confetti.
Kenneth, I apologise, but you look like a Meme. 🙄
Yeah he did mean confetti. He was talking about Chaff Defenses, Chaff Grenades, Chaff Pods and so on. They are meant to fuck with infrared, infared, or laser guided munitions by throwing off the sensors with mass random reflection.
@@ackshayshukla 🤣 I know I shouldn't laugh at that but it's funny
@@ackshayshukla probably got a wolf shirt on under that hoodie
chaff
For a $100 million dollars Joe can eat all the free range DMT fed Elk his heart desires.
Joe got a lot more than 100million
Cant lie I'd try it
@2viewbosque did you forget he doesn't use a gun he uses a bow
and a great doctor to unclog his heart
@@H3c171 uh no... elk meat along with a lot of wild game meat is very lean in fat.
As a producer, I was twice the price of the grocery store 20 years ago, but offered organic, which wasn't as available at the grocers. But our prices have stayed pretty much the same for all 20 years, because we became more efficient and scaled up along the way, and we're neck and neck with organic labeled store prices. The difference is we're not just a label, we're truly regenerative for the environment and we're producing a more nutrient dense product for the consumer.
We're also heavily into growing organic grain, and use the regenerative approach in that enterprise as well. That's what allows us to be so competitive. We have more revenue streams and they are all interdependent and overlapping.
We don't want to serve only the status eaters who can afford to pay double or triple. That's kind of what Joel does, no disrespect intended. He has a straight shot into Washington DC, its burbs, and all the elites who live there. Our situation is similar in that we have a 10 million person strong pool of consumers in the Chicagoland, Peoria and Bloomington Normal area. But we have a lot of regular people who are on the band wagon, and more and more locals are jumping on year after year.
I've never had a problem with the USDA (we are 100% USDA inspected), I've always approached them with the "folks, how can I do better" approach. I view them as members of my team. Thankfully we're seeing common sense changes to regulations, and it's important that we continue to move forward. We all have the same goals, to supply nourishment comfort and security for the consumer as safely as possible.
We're considerably larger producers than Joel, but our products are the stars of the show, not us. We're focused on the consumer's needs, they are in the drivers seat. They have proven over and over that they'll reach past the conventional garbage and pay up for quality IF you can keep your price within 15-20% of the bad alternatives. At the end of our 2nd 20 year farm plan, we'll be a 10-15k acre operation. However, that's going to be a total of 40 years of never taking a dime out for ourselves and reinvesting everything back into improvement and growth. That's farming.
you should write a book and or do videos on how to farm properly, imagine people beginning the proper way of farming and not needing 20- 30 years of experimenting the wrong way... your book would give a heads up so to speak
Growing food in many ways is like printing money. It makes sense to reinvest as much as possible back into land and infrastructure. I can imagine feeding all the US with a million permaculture farms. It would get people healthier, more in touch with their food supply and so much more.
But if you didn’t have to pay all of those licensing fees than your products could be less, right? And Joel is not about being a “star” he’s about waking people up, since you want to sit in the back seat. Funny how we (those of us watching this video) know who Joel is. But not you. Because you’re not speaking up and out. And don’t think that the USDA won’t regulate you out of existence if a new “common sense” regulation comes out. Just like a detective, the usda isn’t your friend. Or a member of your team. And it’s funny how now they have a “garden registry” (I’m watching this in 2022, obviously. Soon it won’t be a suggestion.)
I wish I could afford to eat your meat. Wow, I never thought I would ever say anything like that on my life 😆. But yeah, I can't afford to eat your meat and can't afford to not eat your meat so there's that....
@@smokeo007 Maybe you can raise some chicks, rabbits, and quail.
This guy just nails a belief I've had for years...we have just lost the ability to feed ourselves...by design...
Calm down bro I've never ate kale before...random
Read his books! They are good
I really like this guy, he’s not trying too hard to convince joe or anything. Just seems like a passionate guy who knows his shit
Kinda, look at modern pork facility, modern factory farming, is a misnomer, Think more lab farm, lab farming, cause if you violate lab standards you get a disaster. I don't necessarily disagree with him....I'm not informed enough, but his protrail of in particular the pork industry "factory farming" is highly inaccurate.
@@JamesThomas-pj2lx highly inaccurate? Pork plants arent labs. They process animals that spend their short lives confined on cement, with no sunlight. Nothing Joel says is highly inaccurate. Watch some slaughter house videos. Those arent scientists with the sharp knives.
@@JamesThomas-pj2lx lol you have no idea what you are talking about
James Thomas just a plant from the food industry. Stay woke
@@daves9452 There's no argument to be had, farms are getting more and more strict from FDA regulations and Animal Rights being included more into the legal scene. In fact it's to the convenience of the "factory" farm producers to have their cattle be in the most optimal conditions, "stressed" meat is bad meat and I reckon some of these "poor and abused" cattle live off better than some HUMANS. All the biased points this old man states are things from the pre - regulation 80's and 90's. Humidity expendature, temperature management, ventilation, manure management, correct dosage of additives ( vitamin D he mentions ), half intensive / half extensive management ( movement ), vaccine programs, there's a LOT of improvement in factory farms.
Go Joel! I practice regenerative farming in New Zealand. Attended one of your seminars a few years back! Great!
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Joel is awesome. As a society we need to start listening to his ideas and shaping our regulations in ways to allow some of these things.
I studied permaculture in 2016 and went to see the premiere of the incredible documentary about Joel and his family ’Polyfaces Farm’ with my son and it was one of the best things we’ve even seen. I’d love to be able to meet him go and see his farm someday 💞💞💞
If you haven’t watched “Food Inc” please do, this same gentleman shows how to run an organic farm and describes how Monsanto and other conglomerates are destroying our children’s future.
I knew he was familiar! Love this guy
@Liz bth tbh, I paused it during the middle and got some Burger King :)
In my defense, I was in college abroad, we don't have Burger King in my country, it was something exotic for me :)
"If you think the price of organic food is expensive, have you priced cancer lately?" - Joel Salatin
and hypertension, obesity, diabetes, heart, and kidney disease, the leading causes of preventable death and Covid-19 comorbidities.
did he say that in this vid i didn't hear it lol
The taco bell app says in small print on the order review screen that the food may contain chemicals known to the state of california to cause cancer, birth defects, or reproductive harm . There is also another disclaimer stating that the sodium level is not suitable for human consumption and warns against consumption by individuals with heart problems. These warnings are literally in writing
Colby Paul please show me where
@@cpaul980 that's crazy my Milwaukee sawzall also causes cancer in the state of California
Great information to get out there, I grew up on a small family farm and everything he said is true. Small farms are the best way to grow food, but small farmers can't compete with the factory farms. Just like a mom and pop store can't compete with Wal-Mart and Target.
Yup. I'm a farmer and those big foreign companies and families (in my area it's Dutch and swiss that pretty much took over the land around us) and we cant compete since they're paying huge amounts of money for land etc. Even tractors are getting extremely expensive since these huge farms are buying them regardless of the price (I know they would be expensive regardless since all the tech). All the family farms are being pushed out by these guys because they will pay people crazy money for the land around you, not allowing for the family farms to grow. Location is in central alberta for reference.
@@DoYourResearchBossMan Those giant super high tech John Deer tractors that can only be repaired by the company wow ,watched a couple those vids on UA-cam the money is ridiculous to operate and maintain .
@@fishfire_2999 yup. And the amount of maintenance required on the sensors is ridiculous. Bought 1 JD and had the repair truck out over 20 times, that's what you call quality lol
Don't need to compete, just find someone local to go into partnership with. Get your best stuff and sell at a massive premium to local restaurants. The rest you eat or sell at local markets. Don't play their game and you won't lose!
@@DoYourResearchBossMan what about finding a friend who is internet savy and getting them to build you a website where you can sell your products directly to the consumer? Possible? That is one of the ways that Joel Salatin has made is farm work!
I recently started my conversion over to being self reliant and farming. By this i have 30 acres to use and I’m trying to use every inch of land to my advantage for my animals.
Love this guy... his farm isn't far from here .... great libertarian thinker and overall good man!
And the most Joe Rogan thing Joe Rogan said in this episode is “really? Eagles have radar?”
haha anyone else makes the same statement, gets called out as in idiot
Mochprin_ 100% agree I was just saying he’s lucky people just like him already if it were someone else the internet would have got hold 😂 most likely
Mochprin_ also given they were having an actual intellectual convo haha
Bruh I was hella shocked
HAHAH!
I really hope that this situation kick starts a resurgence in home gardening. I started my first ever garden this year and the self-satisfaction of watching a seed that you planted grow into a plant that will give you food is amazing. If everything goes right, I'll have a big enough of a harvest to give food away and keep myself fed.
Nice name 😂
I live on a 20 acre homestead. I have about 10 acres available for row crops. My garden isn't that big, it's about an acre but next year I'll be better prepared and hopefully a bit more experienced for a bigger one.
my pants always die, thus I suffer from severe depression and poverty
I agree, there's something nice & satisfying about knowing you grew that food yourself. I started about 5+ yrs ago, & haven't missed a year since.
@@zacharysmith4787 , as a midwesterner who's lived around mid sized farms and gardened my whole life (I'm 39), I find your naivety hilarious. Good fucking luck.
I thought this guy was a kook until he brought up the group home/assisted living analogy. Brilliant example.
I have been reading articles that Joel has produced for years on how he operates his farm. I think that the simplest way to describe his methods is that he tries to operate a farm as close to a natural system as possible. Usually very simple and "outside the box".
@anonymous one well thats example of bad and selffish people ofc there will be those but its not like everysingle person does it really
anonymous one okay but to be fair you’d have to pay out of your wages for food from elsewhere anyway, it’s just more direct
I worked as a chef for over 30 years and I can tell you from first hand experience the USDA inspection processes in these plants is a joke.
You should see the stuff that goes on without the regulations and inspectors!
So as a chef you cooked inside these processing plants? Lol ask somebody who has worked in the plants. The USDA breathes down their back to make sure everything is as clean/proper as can be.
@@howard5871 I have about five years and some change now of supporting F&B and med device manufacturers. The level of scrutiny one receives from the FDA, USDA etc. varies based on your willingness to play the game. A former customer of mine has its products on the shelves in gas stations and grocery stores across the country. The conditions of the plants were disgusting, employees paid at minimum wage and had to endure 12+ hour shifts during peak times. If you believe for a second that the agencies regulate Fortune 500 companies and billion dollar business the same as the local granola manufacturer, you're in for a treat!
He ment to say "confetti" not "graffiti", he was talking about Chaff systems. Chaff launches shredded aluminum foil in the air to disable Infrared, Infared, and Laser Guidance sensors with mass random reflection. As in Chaff Grenades, Chaff Pods, Chaff Launchers, Chaff Missiles, and other Chaff Dispenser Type Defense Systems.
Didn’t know infrared and infared were different things??
They distract radar systems quite effectively.
Chaff DMT
Not Infrared afaik, atleast not passive IR sensors.
Passive IR sensors work by forming a picture from IR radiation, things like the engine, wing edges and such are hot and send out IR radiation. Which a passive sensor can pick up.
But totally correct for active systems such as radar, which requires sending a wave and then sensing the reflection. The chaff messes up the reflection and scatters it.
Chaff isn’t used against IR guidance. It’s used against radar guidance whereby creating a larger target & fooling the missile into locking in to the chaff rather than the ship or aircraft.
In the case of IR guided weapons, flares are used, creating a hotter target and fooling the missile
Young Jamie is now yung jamie after his cut of the Spotify money
how much did he get?
Pull up the lambo jamie
@@16baad 100 million
Joe is now a mogul and moguls don't pay the help shit we all know that...
@@l.pmoonstone5067 Jamie isn't Joe sweety.
I’m really lucky to be able to buy 100% organic grass fed beef directly from a small farmer that only has 30 cows. Steaks, mince, liver anything I ask for and only 20km north.
You definitely can if everyone did a little farming on their own. But most people don’t do any farming throughout their entire lifetime and are completely dependent on consumerism while there’s a small amount of people doing all the work to support the food industry. We just need more people to start producing food whether for themselves or for the industry and this is something anyone and everyone can do to some degree with things like small gardens, potted plants, greenhouses, and hydroponics you can set up almost anywhere
The Joel Salatin method has helped our farm immensely, and we are happy to see our hero speak for farmers like us.
A nation is waking up, seeing the gaping cracks in its factory farm system.
We are ZOE Farms: a family-owned, family-operated farm following globally recognized best practices in producing food the way nature intended. We believe that food, when grown in accordance with the laws of natural systems, can heal our bodies and our lands at the same time.
Thank you Joe for this episode!
How do yall kill your animals?
Just go vegan, problem solved.
Farmers are awesome! Thanks!
I try to buy farm food whenever I can. your other problem is distribution. wholefoods used to promote step 3, 4 and 5 chicken... they barely exist anymore.
Fellow regenerative farmer here, this is our time to help make the change the world needs.
This guy is probably thee best interviewer ever. People talk to him. He asks interesting questions of very interesting people. Mainstream news media is losing to this guy.
Sooooo true
That's because Boomers are still watching mainstream media. In 10 yrs, maybe 20 yrs max, they'll all die and will be replaced with the new generation of viewers who likes podcasts
Rogan is not PC . . . "Oh nooooooooo, Mr. Bill . . . " OTOH he make a lot of sense to those of us who like fact and logic.
Joel Salatin is a genius. He has gone back to basics. My farm is profitable now.
This farmer has been my personal hero for about 2 decades now. Love him and what he stands for.
If someone asks me "would you really drink raw milk", my answer is always yes, if the person I get it from drinks it too.
They have in from local organic growers here and it's delicious 😋
My family have been drinking raw milk from a local dairy for 4 years now...l used to have bad indigestion -
Not anymore.
Raw milk is delicious!!!!!
Idk there are some nasty mfers out for money
@@erikjohnson1684 lol
I like this guy a lot. I grew up helping my grand parents on a little family farm. And it’s awesome to see a farmer who knows his shit, talk about how you could run a farm like this.
Read his books! They are good!
Joel salatin is a freaking legend!!
It’s great to see Joel on this platform!
I’ve been to the Polyface farm, the chicken coops he’s talking about are on wheels and electrically powered. It’s pretty awesome.
I think they call them 'chicken tractors'
so sick. i often envisioned something like this inspired by this TED talk about holistic farming ua-cam.com/video/vpTHi7O66pI/v-deo.html&feature=emb_logo
Basically desert crawlers but instead of Jawas it's chickens 😄
My crazy Asian niebours that use every space to grow their own produce and raise chicken .. not so crazy
@Dick Fageroni actually, it's deseases transmitted from animals to other animals that can sometimes be transmitted to humans. In the meat production industry where animals are living so close to each other in unhealthy conditions there is a higher chance of animals transmitting deseases to one another and then those deseases to mutate and be transmitted to humans. So, this guy's neighbor's are probably alright. (The reason viruses sometimes come from China is not because someone is keeping 4-5 chickens in a house)
@Mylech XI beta lmao
@@derbybOyzZ vegan lmao
@Jacob Monnin It is because of wet markets, where many different types of animals are kept close to each other. Although wet markets exist in other countries, most do not have the same variety of animals and therefore as much potential for the transmission of diseases and viruses.
@@derbybOyzZ Whats Beta about wanting an asian wife?
Two of my favorite dudes talking some of the most important truth we all seem to forget about in the McDs drive-thru on the way to walmart (me too sometimes).
Excellent Video! Joel S. has so many good ideas and sees the BIG picture so well! He understands that small family farm products would be healthier for people and will cut costs in medical, improve daily health in the overall, and the food would taste better on the whole, and would take a step forward toward healing the planet!
I truly enjoy that Joe brings these guest on his show t keep my brain sharp and gets me thinking critically. Great content.
Read a book? Don’t count on Joe’s podcast for the love of god. He often demands you don’t.
Seriously, this what humans should do.......COMMUNICATE stop shitting on people with differing views and try to understand people. It’s the only way to speed up our progress on this planet
Benny Liquid if an expert is given a free platform to speak on, it is very likely the same information that you’d get from whatever they would write.. and it’s much easier to listen to someone for 3 hours than sit down and read 300 pages
@@andrewmorosky4697 It's called audiobook. Are you aware of what reading can do that podcasts/conversations can't? Pay me, I accept PayPal, and I can explain it to you. Good luck dude.
@@andrewmorosky4697 Joe literally tells you he is an idiot, don't pay too much attention. You must not know the crucial books that are out there. You can literally have a computer read a book aloud, instead of having to buy the more expensive audible. I am a monster.
God bless Jamie Rogan and Young Joe!
Wait Jamie is Joe's brother?
You mean Young Rogan and Joe Jamie?
No way they’re related. This is a simulation
I'm great Arkansas
Joe is so influential, I would like to see him in politics, but who wants to jump in That garbage can. Local politics maybe, and I've seen factory farms, vs. free range, and thus guy is right! The daily death toll is the first chore if the day. Picking up dead chickens. Ughhhh. But local, it breaks my back, and my muscles, but I'm planting all the high yield food I can. Cabbage, potatoes, etc...no chickens, I'm in urban setting, but 5'x25' of soil borders the parking lot. I'm filling it with food!
LOVE YOUR BOOKS JOEL!!!
As a student of Joel and sustainable agriculture for years, I know that a lot of what Joel is saying is going over most people's head. It's almost like he needs a translator to help people who aren't familiar with this stuff (like Joe) to fully understand.
This is why I always try to buy from local Norwegian farmers, then I know how the animals have been treated. Support your local farms!
for $100M you can factory farm quite a bit of DMT
Riveting. The most relevant, important and insight piece I've heard on this channel. Thxu
To have many more people working on a farm means that the revenue of that farm must go up substantially to afford paying those wages, which means that food prices have to go up significantly at the store level. Not necessarily a positive or negative thing, just a fact. It might also be a challenge to find many more people who want to work in agriculture. A very interesting topic for sure.
Exactly you will make more money getting a job at McDonald’s then working on a farm
But the cost of shipping/processing would be less, which could even out some of the changes in price.
Without the necessity for a half a million square foot facilities full of millions of dollars of machinery also plays a role in pricing
I love steak....I also have done research in microbiology (disclaimer: my research was in environmental microbiology and astrobiology, but NOT related to factory farming. (hoping to get published soon!))...factory farming is a problem so entwined in our culture I have no idea where to begin. We ARE growing antibiotic resistant "super bugs" in feedlots. It's a fact. But we love cheap steak and burgers.....good luck on this one....
What did you research exactly?
I think astrobiology in particular is increadibly fascinating :)
I hope, that this issue will get resolved, once articifial (lab grown) meat is much cheaper.
You dont Just like it you're addicted, that's what addiction is barely being able to go a day without a stimulant whether its certain foods, pills, sex etc
@utewbing evidence.
Hopefully we make more significant strides in meat cloning in the coming years, which makes it less economical to have factory farms. We all know there will be no regulation of factory farms when it comes to ensuring the inevitable bio-weapons don't drive us extinct, because the free market needs to regulate itself! Hurr durr
@@aldoushuxley5953 We were looking for halophile bacteria in local soil samples. I took some of the bacteria I was able to isolate from soil samples and grew them in extremely high sodium content growth media (much like the briny and possibly damp soil MIGHT be on Mars?). (10% NaCl in this case). Most bacteria won't tolerate those conditions. I was able to isolate 4 different species that grew at those levels. One of those species MAY be a previously uncatalogued species in the Marinobacter genus. The best part was, and this is often the case in science, the most interesting result had nothing to do with the initial goal. We did show that many bacteria can indeed tolerate high sodium levels, but, Marinobacter bacterium shouldn't be where I found them....lol....
"guard llamas" ... yes
“Is... that a camel-“
COYOTE’S LAST THOUGHT.
😜
@Cyber Explorer that doesn't make any sense at all guns are not aggressive I can set it down on a coffee table and it won't do anything
Cyber Explorer more precisely that's because guns 'spit' (lead) and llamas 'spit'.
Troll Hidden Cave triggered?
I'm picturing a llama with shades, a suit, and an earpiece patrolling a chicken coop.
Most important interview JR ever did.
Hope we go back to the old way of farming 🤞
"Feed the masses"... Young Jamie going full Stalinist with that title
Natural Hypertrophy 😂😂😂🤙🏾
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Interesting you mention... Cities grew extremely fast after the Cold War via government expansion. The only farms and packers that could keep up with the consolidating demand at that time were the largest operations. They are now known as the big four. The way our food market is shaped doesn’t meet the natural demand curve that people would otherwise create in a natural distribution.
The main problems with the food market is cities and cities already don’t make any sense in the wake of the last 50 years of technological advance. They create unrealistic market demands from consumers that large corporations have a lock on holding that market place hostage from the producer.
Cities are en economic burden. They started as the future of economics. And they brought the future! No we need to deconstruct them. They manufacture scarcity, destroy the ecosystem, hurt Americans, and America as a concept....Communists love that shit...
@Ahmed N This is Jamie's channel
The farmers name, Joel Salatin, looks similar to Joe Stalin.
This is incredible!! Got to meet Joel a few years back and so glad Joe chose to have him as a guest.
Love me some Salatin. This man has the solutions. He lays it out in his books
Have followed this guy for years. These are very fundamental issues about how we feed ourselves without making us sick. IMPORTANT!
Pfas glyphosphate.
Yeah, it's possible.
Not enough farmland for grassfed. Trying to force a large segment of the population to be vegans would only bring rise to cannibalism. History has shown that repeatedly. Secondly, many species of animals would be driven to extinction from over hunting. This is just plain commonsense
@@pollypurree1834 India. Next.
@@freefreespeech6722 What about India? India doesn't pertain to the USA
@@freefreespeech6722 india has so many vegans they are not eating each other
@@pollypurree1834 factory farming takes up more farming land than it would take to feed the crops diectly to humans instead of feeding the animals factory farming takes more water too
All our problems would be solved if could farm like Minecraft
If it were that easy, I would be eating meals loaded with chocolate and Kola nut.
just bone meal the wheat bro
yes. put every cow in a single block, noisy as hell but efficient.
We can. Just nobody does or has the time and land to do it. But we can.
Actually a lot of our problems would be solved if we stopped looking at animals as pets and transferring human emotions on them. Cows give us food, milk and leather the whole damn animal is used. I’d say 1/2 of people in the USA have never killed an animal and couldn’t hunt anything to save their lives and those people look at a cow and think it’s just so cute and we should never eat such a majestic beast. Is there something we could do to make things more sustainable or whatever? Sure there is. No one is going to want to pay for it.
This guy, Joel Salatin, is the MAN when it comes to advocating for sustainable, regenerative farming practices. If anyone here is just getting interested in this concept- he has several books and lots of UA-cam videos. Some other good names in that space who are worth checking out on YT as well, are Greg Judy (mainly for sheep & cattle farming) & Justin Rhodes (for homesteading).
Amazing interview. Thank you!
The problem is fast-food restaurants. They create a huge demand from beef, chicken, lettuce, and tomato, etc?
Its the entire infrastructure. Im a market. I order 50 steaks from your farm, they expire in 2 weeks (orwhatever), i have 2 weeks to either sell those steaks or throw them out (orgivethemaway) now i need 50 more steaks. Its only been two weeks and im one store. Repeat for every grocery store everywhere. So you either need alot of cows or have bigger cows.
It isn't *the* problem. Is it a big/huge contributor? Yeah. But you can change things bottom-up that will make significant impacts too. People altering their diet is more the problem (i.e. the demand).
Business to not "create demand"
People demand it, then the business start to fill the demand.
Yo most people throw half of those off the burger anyway
@@michaelharris8111- Sorry but that's entirely wrong. Markets are not ordering meat from farms. Meat comes from the processor and is sold in large cuts called primals. These large cuts are kept frozen until they are needed, then they are broken down into steaks, roasts, etc. As you can imagine these frozen primals can be kept for months. Smaller markets, without the capability to break down or store primal cuts, are getting their steaks from bigger markets. But they are going to restock every couple days not weeks. If you're a small market and you've got 2 weeks worth of steaks taking up your limited cold storage you probably lack the knowledge to run a successful market...
I should also note that in larger cities the demand is such that most primal cut won't need to be frozen. Large g-stores will sell 50 steaks a day easily.
This discustion is very important, especially regarding hidden cost and resistent super bugs.
That being said, the guy is - as we all are - quite biased in the way he depicts things.
Living in Switzerland for example I happen to know that most of our food production is not ecen close to what he describes. This only happens in small farms in rural regions. Also swiss farming only works because it's heavily subsidized by the state (which libertarians might not like so much I assume).
Also, Switzerland imports a lot of food and would not be able to sustain itself without it.
Don't get me wrong: The guy has a very important message but always research what people have left out of their narrative (intentional or not).
It's so crazy that a few bucks can sway even information nowadays. It was one thing when they were paying off politicians but when you start allowing money to influence science and facts, its so evil to a crazy degree
We can totally feed our populations using sustainable methods, but super cheap food will be a thing of the past.
I have 20 acres, and can see in the numbers it takes about 80 acres to provide all the needs of 400 houses.
I only do fruit and veg, so to do love stock i would need more space, but then would be totally input free.
And i have never once used chemicals for anything its totally unnecessary. There is biological ways for everything, but they take time and effort.
Swizterland also has a population of just 8.5 million.. so I wouldnt call it biased when a signficantly higher percentage of the world population relys on these sort of factory farms.
Unlike the scheiss usländer, the swiss cultures very “green”. Its a shame we cant all be like swiss and other northern countries in europe..
@@mistarizlaWe are green within our borders which I like very much. But we also have one of the biggest per capita consumption of goods and services in the world. We use tons of ressources from all around the world. I admit not to be an expert on farming but as of right now we also import tons of food. In a free market with competitors from places with fewer acricultural regulations and with lover salaries not even our subsidized food can compete.
Joe Rogan I am so happy you use the words you use. You are so truthful man
Breakdown of respect for self leads to everything else. We are the cattle of the rich,and we know their standard
We need more podcasts with interesting people like this, and people who are experts in their field.
We need far less podcasts with Joe's clueless friends (Michael Yo, Tom Papa, etc)
To me those are filler shows, can’t have a main event all the time. He does a show everyday he has a lot of time to fill
Rob Mason couldn’t agree more. And also that liberal girl he had on recently. The one who acted “dumb” when it came to normal topics but then jumped on the chance to advance her liberal agenda when it came up.
I kinda like Tom Papa because all he claims to know anything about is baking bread.
blasphemy.
that last fight companion was stupid AF but i loved it
@@dvdcamp7187 what was her name? I can't remember that one
no joke, farmers are some of the smartest people on the planet.
Not according to Mike Bloomberg. If they don't know anything about moving money around producing nothing then they are dumb
@@user-4491 this ignores why it is that way, because the workers won't get paid enough to justify them treating the animals nicely, and money talks at the end of the day and people want the food to be as cheap as possible, so shortcuts must be taken.
but that aside they keep the farms going through natural disasters, it's uncanny we live in an era where food production can be taken for granted and it's very easy to talk about animal cruelty but not about the illegal immigrants working for peanuts who institute that cruelty, or the economic reality of having all the animals in a warehouse, it's cheaper, the workers don't have to go too far to get the work done, as opposed to the wagyu farms where you aren't permitted to handle the cows without completing the internship to get trained to handle them correctly.
if you want well treated animals, you have to make it economically viable.
wagyu beef costs how much per pound? those animals are treated the best on the planet, the food is not cheap as a result, the work pays well.
if you want that everywhere instead of the cruelty then address the economics.
this guy, on the pod, has some of the cheapest food products in the nation, but it runs up to a higher cost overall because more is expected of the workers on location and their payment isn't being forwarded to the government.
Thanks
My mums a farmer. She's also an anti vaxer. Just gonna leave this here
Chickens are kept in crowded conditions to inhibit them from moving around alot, increasing their fattiness, otherwise they would be too lean, which would suck.
Food used to be grown predominantly by family farms. People don't want to work without the industrial business benefits of vacation, health insurance etc. Families covered their members costs without federal intervention.
Joel: We should localize
Globalists: Localize? no, no, no, no...centralize
Sure, but that is quite the oversimplification there don’t you think?
@@zeffez8161 the answer is globalist is just a term to simplify anyone who has any ideas that sound like it'd result in multiple states or countries working together. It's not really a belief as much as it is just a strawman so they can then connect it to an idea that didn't work
@@stevsux4442 Pointing to the numerous failures (er, catastrophes) that have resulted from the centralization of power, and then drawing the _obvious_ connection between that and those who call for larger government / global coordination of government is not a straw-man. It's just basic pattern recognition.
@@stevsux4442 smoothe brain npr take.
Centralizing increases profits, you're going to have to use government to stop that from naturally occurring.
The Saying Will Always Be True: “you are what you eat”
@Dale Doback Its the MOST true statement ever👍
Justify your stupid comment please.
Gotta agree with dale
Trolldier _69
: you are a chicken.
@@kevinsutube1p528 Justify why you agree with Dale. It's not a difficult task...
@Laith So are omnivores cows with leaves for ears?
A fine breed UA-cam develops ffs
Interesting conversation... Love Joel Salatin
Apparently Joe has no idea how high the attrition rate is in factory farming. Chicks and young birds die from stress, not just from predators.
And they die from being too fat, they actually break their legs so we can have our beloved chicken sandwiches.
If you wanna feed the masses we need to focus on hydroponic/aquaponic style farming and you could convert any warehouse around a city to mass produce vegetables combined with the standard farms there would be no food shortages. Why this isn’t a standard thing yet is beyond me
cost. electrical cost, set up and maintenance. obviously for weed or other cash crops its worth the cost. or up in alaska its common (a tomato is $5). but the sun is free, soil nutrients are cheaper. hydroponics require entire system breakdowns and cleaning. one pipe in a crack can be a hard reset on everything connected to that reservoir. cleaning and maintaining is easier in a closet size setup, and less moving pats equals less broken stuff. but in a giant facility with dozens of humans, forklifts, mistakes and hundreds of lights cost add up quick. unless a crop can got for at least a few dollars a gram its not profitable to compete with outdoor farmers.
The meat companies have a very powerful lobby...they want to prevent competition
@The Catmother correct the same people preaching capitalism use every loophole possible which shows there true intentions, people don't seem to have realized humans turn symbols in gods, AkA GOLD is GOD
It's crony capitalism. The bureaucrats are lead by CEOs of big factory. They put in excessive regulation to eliminate their smaller competition
@The Catmother not capitalsim... collusion. They keep everyone out and sue you into oblivion with special protections if you're honest. Free speech my ass. Not that I'm a fan of hers, but even Oprah, one of the most powerful women in the world, got shut down when she tried to expose them. It's a joke
@The Catmother it isn't capitalism it's the new world order
I worked at a chicken plant for three years caught chickens for about a year and then work that feed mill for about 8 years. When I caught chickens you would stuff 14 until a little cage probably 1 ft tall 2 ft wide 3 ft deep. I had to transfer from that job cuz I couldn't take it anymore
If regular family farms went back to raising quite a few head of cattle, hogs, chickens ect. We wouldn’t need factory farming. But the government and the markets and companies have made it hard on small guys. We got out of hogs in 07 and we still have about 300 head of cattle, but we are the only people in our county that still raise cattle.
Wow. I know you always have top notch guests Joe...this dude had me the entire time great guest 👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻
Can you replace what we get from factory farming with mass DMT production?
I bet Joe asked him off camera if he's tried DMT
A restaurant in the keys called Island Grill used to hang CD's for birds and even flies
Of course you can...we need to diversify food security + encourage people to convert from ornamental to edible landscaping. Our property is now full of fruit trees, berry bushes and other easy to maintain perennials. I still do annual gardens but want to leave something behind at each property. Now saving/looking to purchase land and start farming veggies, medicinal plants, etc.
Monsanto has entered the chat
Taken over by German corporation Bayer a few years ago.
Joe : I’m filthy rich now , I can afford to eat a human
Farmer : Cant compete with that.
Industrial Agriculture is what feeds the masses. It is the most sustainable way to produce enough protein to feed billions of people. Not to mention the fertilizer that comes from “factory farms” needed to make organic farms possible.
I live in the UK. I go to the abbertior and buy a quarter of beef at a time to store in the freezer, organic grass fed and dry aged. Works out as cheap as battery farmed supermarket chicken per lb.
He’s absolutely right, regulations, taxes, and government intervention protect the big farmers/processors and hurt the small farmers/processors more than anything else. If you don’t agree, consider what lower interest rates, corn subsidies, and ethanol subsidies would do to the price of farm ground. They’ll raise the price, which causes nearby ranchers to use less ground per animal. Also, like it or not, increasing the minimum wage and payroll taxes will always drive automation and/or push jobs overseas. The former causing “factory farming” and the latter leaving it out of our control.
Not true. The regulation (like antitrust laws, bans on toxic growth hormones and pesticides, etc.) benefit the smaller businesses and the consumer. Without any regulation, there would be no limit to monopolies, and all of our food and goods would be controlled by a few massive companies with absolute power to screw over consumers.
@@camthesaxman3387 no that’s what they’re meant to do. In reality grants and subsidies always go to the larger farms to meet environmental standards (which i think is fair btw, if the voters want to force a farmer to change something, they should pay for it). Sometimes smaller farms don’t qualify. Organic farming can be successfully scaled up. Pesticide and hormone regulations are indifferent to farm size.
@@camthesaxman3387 in fact take a look at the netherlands right now, thousands of small farmers being forced off their land by bogus regulations that they just met 3 years ago only to get changed again. Who’s gonna come in and buy the land? Large ag corporations and housing development conglomerates.
Salatin is a true wizard, bless!
I have recently started trying some all vegetarian diet fed open range raised meat, specifically steak and chicken, and all i gotta say is wow its so much rich in flavor and settles better in my stomach. I have light IBS.
It’s not about safety. It’s about controlling the food supply and more importantly, collecting TAX REVENUE.
Exactly why I am buying my meat from local farmers from now on
Do it, you wont regret it. May seem like a lot when you buy 1/2 a cow but the quality difference between it and store bought is mind blowing.
I am going to be so bummed when the day comes where you cant watch JRE on youtube. However props to Joe Rogan for getting 100 million from Spotify. I hope you make Young Jamie a multi millionaire.
Will his old clips/podcasts be taken off?
@@drestarman I heard on Tim Pool's podcast TimcastIRL that apparently the clips channel is going to stay. Not sure how correct that is.
Yeah, being paid ~$100M to give Google the finger is awesome.
UA-cam would probably never have lost Joe if they were truly unbiased and had no agenda.
@@mistermycology1411 Sure but that will never happen .The controllers have there hands in ,sure eventually will find there way into Spotify .
$0.99 cheeseburgers are unheard of now and I live in New Mexico where living is supposed to be really affordable. McDouble at McDonald's are closing in on $3. Probably like $2.75 for what is a pretty small burger.
Watch the movie food inc. That was the first time I found out about this dude. Another great episode. 👍