The MYSTERIOUS ORIGIN of the SUMERIANS

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  • @mushroomsamba82
    @mushroomsamba82 Рік тому +291

    I was already a big history geek but Prof Miano's enthusiasm always gets me going

    • @chrishey9879
      @chrishey9879 Рік тому

      atheist are such Fools. This further PROVES the BIBLE. ITS mysterious to you cuz Biblically this and the timelines lines EXACTLY with the end of Noah's flood and when the they developed a community in Babel and that area. Yes the first earliest writing system discovered in that time peroid lines up EXACTLY with the Bible and after Noah's flood. atheist keyboard experts will make some low iq excuse trying to seem intelligent. This is why I have NO sympathy for atheist going to Hell. They go out of their way to deny.

    • @eiheioh2050
      @eiheioh2050 Рік тому +2

      Source Summoning Recall
      first: Light a candle in your bedside sleeping place: Silence for 30 seconds and start to meditate:
      May brothers and sisters of light from the divine love quality of source that transcends all time and space and beyond Matrix, I would like to connect with you all the time.
      What you want to do, see, and become, I also want to do, see, and become;
      So in the following all the time, the wisdom of the invisible beings guides and guides individuals, prompts, hints and influences, transcending the wisdom of the universe to bring spiritual truth to control the five senses and the Brain
      I am the source quality, I return to the source quality

    • @wendyalen2437
      @wendyalen2437 Рік тому

      This Kurdish Iraqi film based on the Epic of Gilgamesh explain many hiding things about the Sumerian:
      ua-cam.com/video/vqhxi8UIJS4/v-deo.htmlsi=TrRr7ZclSAhRdTSM

    • @justinsmith4562
      @justinsmith4562 7 місяців тому +1

      As if you would call someone professor hahaha

    • @mvs9122
      @mvs9122 5 місяців тому +2

      @@mushroomsamba82 that's funny. I find all these excitement and music and flash stuff associated with informative videos very annoying and distracting. I am trying to learn not be entertained

  • @lincolnyaco5626
    @lincolnyaco5626 9 місяців тому +8

    A pleasure to listen to! Prof. M. is utterly articulate. So many public speakers these days fill their speech with temporizations such as, "y'know" and "um". Such cluttered speech is agonizing to hear. The good prof. is a pure unbridled delight to listen to.
    Thank you!

  • @dukecity7688
    @dukecity7688 Рік тому +161

    I liked this. I love ancient history because it gets me away from the bs and insanity - and it's fun. I am seventy one. Didn't have the internet until three years ago. I was homeless and a guy told me a story about someone named Vercingetorix. I looked him up and - It is now one of the greatest things in my life. Cannot get enough. I can't believe I have the Library of Alexandria in my hand.

    • @adityamohan1773
      @adityamohan1773 Рік тому +7

      You sir are a walking library urself

    • @apocyldoomer
      @apocyldoomer 11 місяців тому +3

      Thanks , very interesting, I’ll look that up!

    • @leosrule5691
      @leosrule5691 8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for posting what you did. Because of your comment I have learned about Vercingetorix.
      There is so much history we were never taught in school. And, what we were taught was extremely biased and exaggerated if not downright dishonest.
      Again, thank you.

    • @Andy-dh2sv
      @Andy-dh2sv 4 місяці тому +2

      Interesting to hear the vast information we have available appreciated. It is a great thing, I will try not taking it for granted.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Andy-dh2sv This thread doesn't have new age, " ancient astronaut " or Bible Thumpers, so far. GOOD.

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings Рік тому +195

    Dr Irving Finkle got me hooked on Sumerians when I was a young wee lad and visited the British Museum.
    He was kind enough to spend about 20 minutes answering my very, very dumb and very, very frequent questions about cuneiform.
    He was funny and sarcastic and eccentric and I fell in love with the subject. If you want to learn about the Sumerians and cuneiform, there is no better source than Dr Finkle, and hes got plenty of talks on UA-cam!
    Thanks for covering this Dr M, you are doing Lord Clapton's work.

    • @unrealuknow864
      @unrealuknow864 Рік тому +11

      Would love to meet Irving one day. Would be great if Dr. Miano could do a live cast with Irving.

    • @bipolarminddroppings
      @bipolarminddroppings Рік тому +11

      @@unrealuknow864 he does not disappoint in person, I promise. If anything, he's even more erasable and eccentric.

    • @skipinkoreaable
      @skipinkoreaable Рік тому +5

      Great to hear. I've really enjoyed seeing him on UA-cam.

    • @nr1NPC
      @nr1NPC Рік тому

      @@bipolarminddroppings It was revealed that what he teaches is pseudo-cuneiform

    • @elihinze3161
      @elihinze3161 Рік тому +8

      I'm so jealous! Speaking with Dr. Finkel sounds like such an amazing experience.

  • @AB-et6nj
    @AB-et6nj Рік тому +79

    Very informative, and clearly communicated. Presenting the three hypotheses gives insight into what real historians do. This channel is a great resource for anybody to understand the work of proper historians. It's a great service to everybody

    • @frankwillow-rogersjr.3253
      @frankwillow-rogersjr.3253 Рік тому

      Yes '@AB-et6nj'; I follow you perfectly. But I must add that there is a world-of-Understanding far beyond the "MainStream" authors and generalized professors who are prone to keep their jobs--by making sure they tow the line. Meaning they will have become 'aware' of other Olden eras than those we teach...but dare not chance losing their vaulted positions by even mentioning Olden text--such as: Cuneiform Tablets, which go back to c. 3800BCE!!! The gentleman speaking (above) seems to know and understand Olden Tablets very well. Wonderful!

  • @krisb6643
    @krisb6643 Рік тому +2

    Another fascinating video!

  • @papasitoman
    @papasitoman Рік тому +40

    One of my favourite channels! Thanks for all your hard work!

  • @canonallam2795
    @canonallam2795 Рік тому +67

    my Sumerian friend saw this video on his clay tablet and he said: 𒈗𒆠𒉌𒂠𒌌𒌌𒈗𒆠𒉌𒂠𒌌𒌌𒈗𒆠𒉌𒂠𒌌𒌌

    • @Baker19911
      @Baker19911 6 місяців тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @potwms99
      @potwms99 6 місяців тому +1

      😆😆😆

    • @Perisemiotics
      @Perisemiotics 4 місяці тому +4

      I tried google translator on that one but it thought it was Chinese! Would you kindly point me in the direction of acquiring one of those shiny---ermm dry clay tablet devices so it can help me make sense of this beautiful script?

    • @heihan1675
      @heihan1675 4 місяці тому +8

      "Gilgamesh was Here!"

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 3 місяці тому +1

      @@heihan1675 At LEAST their language has A, E, I, O, & U. Egyptian didn't. I didn't envy them. I'm ASSUMING that Sumerian did.

  • @casstellar
    @casstellar Рік тому +53

    You might not see this, but your videos really get me going. I get super excited whenever you upload! The videos are always so well made and informative, and I really love that the research is always very up to date with the latest discoveries. It really makes me happy, and reminds me that there is still so much we don't know, and that knowledge is not stagnant, especially in this field. Thank you so much for your work!

    • @WorldofAntiquity
      @WorldofAntiquity  Рік тому +14

      Thank you for saying so!

    • @Channel-sp3fp
      @Channel-sp3fp Рік тому +2

      @@WorldofAntiquity Figurines such as the Statue of Ebih-Il have blue eyes and those individuals traveled from Mesopotamia to Egypt and the Leval 7,500 years ago. They were a prelude to the Proto-Indo-Europeans. Aratta was in Asia Minor, the Balkans or Ukraine. Survive the Jive has a video about Scythians and Fortress of Lugh has another video about the Irish.

    • @WorldofAntiquity
      @WorldofAntiquity  Рік тому +6

      @@Channel-sp3fp These are interesting speculations. But without strong evidence to support them, they are no more than that.

    • @surters
      @surters 9 місяців тому +1

      @@WorldofAntiquity Did the early Indo-europeans even have blue eyes, or is that an Swedish invention like ABBA and Ikea?

  • @jrileycain6220
    @jrileycain6220 Рік тому +186

    That the Sumerians evolved as an amalgamation of several existing cultures kinda makes sense to me. It's not as if the geographic area was totally empty and void of habitation and suddenly bands of "Sumerians" suddenly wandered in. The area surely must have had some populations from the diaspora of early hominids out of Africa between 60,000 and 90,000 years ago. The discoveries at Göbekli Tepe and similar sites indicate there were some sorts of well developed cultures in Anatolia and the neighboring areas from about 10,000 BCE. It seems feasible that the Sumerians could have evolved from this pool of humanity.

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +18

      The point is, there is in this world a Civilization that has not arose from an amalgamation of other cultures?

    • @plopdoo339
      @plopdoo339 Рік тому +16

      Well the Sumerians themselves claim to have ruled the entire Earth so it's possible these civilizations we see from 10,000 years ago in Turkey are related to the people that created the tablets we associate with the area known as Sumer.

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel Рік тому +11

      @@esti-od1mz we can think of isolation as a counter argument for your case. In the period of a few generations you can get some pretty specific traditions without much contact with the outside. Small contact makes for slow change with one alteration now and then. But an entire nation of pidgin language is something of a rare phenomenon unless I'm wrong

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +8

      @@RadeticDaniel agreed. I've never assumed the sumerians were a sort confederation of totally different ethnicities: I rather think that influences among different groups are inevitable.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Рік тому +16

      They were a very distinct culture, and had a distinct language, from the Semitic groups in the area such as the Akkadians. The two groups merged over time, but initially they were quite different. I think that supports the migration hypothesis. The fact of Sumerian being a language isolate suggests to me they travelled some distance before settling in Southern Mesopotamia. There are documents where they are referred to as the "black heads". Make of that what you will.

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays Рік тому +97

    I really love your channel. I'm glad to see the direction you are going. It's smart to lean a little bit more into the concept of "mystery" and the unknown. Lots of channels you have debunked do nothing but that and capitalize greatly so it's nice to see you fight fire with fire so to speak. I also like that this content is not divisive or alienating in any way and I think that is needed in the historical and archeological community. No finger pointing just telling the story of what we know so far. Anyway great job and I think this content series will do very well and maybe even change some minds along the way. So many people are getting into ancient history now that it's become a content type that the content farms are producing relentlessly. I even discussed it with a random stranger at the airport which blew my mind that we would even talk about it. And he also parroted a lot of misinformation I know he heard on Joe Rogan and UnchartedX like the ancients couldn't have produced the artifacts we found in their graves etc. It's sad that narrative is sticking because it's so disrespectful of our ancient human ancestors. Like somehow we are superior to them because of 3000 years. Anyway great work I'm here for it.

    • @noodlesmetal
      @noodlesmetal Рік тому +6

      I think you have misunderstood Ben (Uncharted X). He is absolutely amazed by what our ancient ancestors accomplished at sites all over the world. He has stated many times how hard it would be for us to replicate certain structures and artifacts in this day with all our modern tools and equipment. It's the timeline he is questioning not if ancient humans did the work. He is passionate about human history and looking for evidence to support the idea that we don't 100% know everything. He initiated the first detailed scanning of an ancient Egyptian vase which resulted in modern machinist being astounded by the results. The scan data is available for free online for all to review.
      Calling him disrespectful to the ancient humans is coming from assumptions and isn't true. It's like all the white supremacist crap everyone was spreading about Graham. Total nonsense spread to discredit and attack his name. Graham the racist who has been married to Santha for over 30 years, how rediculus. Shame on all the people who made articles about him with these blatant lies.

    • @ErisApplebottom
      @ErisApplebottom Рік тому +9

      ​@@noodlesmetal Being married to or being someone of an other race doesnt make you not racist. My grandma was panamanian and she was racist towards mexicans.
      Im not saying i agree with calling Graham racist. I just think thats a silly defense. Its just a different version of "im not racist! I have a black friend". But you know racism comes in all shapes and sizes and colors. Its not always armbands and pointy hats.

    • @jmarsh5485
      @jmarsh5485 Рік тому +2

      I agree that this is a great process. People will naturally theorise. Some will get quite forthright when they do of course! This will allow others the option to systematically review/appraise :)
      Whenever people focus on or present academic consensus you just serve up stuff for people to be sceptical or cynical about.
      They say its the age of information, I think its the age of distrust!

    • @jmarsh5485
      @jmarsh5485 Рік тому +6

      just read some of the other stuff on here. its telling when noodlemetal says ''He is passionate about human history and looking for evidence to support the idea that we don't 100% know everything'' -therein lies what I mean. Presentation is key and this is why Miano's approach is great. He doesn't focus on academic consensus, therefore riling the cynics (that call themselves sceptics). By focusing on questions that lack consensus answers, you take away that un-rigorous reaction and offer up 'food for thought', dare I say education haha.

    • @ErisApplebottom
      @ErisApplebottom Рік тому +5

      @@jmarsh5485 i like that "age of distrust" its kinda true. I was born in 1995. Just old enough to kind of see the early days of when the internet was really kicking off. I learned at a young age not to believe the things i read online. And that also translated to the real world where im always kind of sceptical unless i find other info to back something up. I wouldnt say im distrustful, im very trusting, but im not very believing. I trust most people are trying to do the right thing, but i dont believe most of them have all the information right or that they havent been tricked by someone else.

  • @Frostedminifirecracker
    @Frostedminifirecracker Рік тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @oscresson
    @oscresson Рік тому +8

    Your lesson is helpfully organized, and fun to follow. I'm so happy you are putting this sort of product out there!

  • @helenamcginty4920
    @helenamcginty4920 Місяць тому

    Just managed to watch the whole video. Thank you. And thank you for leaving the question open instead of plumping for one of the options. Mysteries are fun.

  • @elihinze3161
    @elihinze3161 Рік тому +10

    LOVE these videos on the Sumerians! Thank you for producing such high quality content.

  • @JulienCohenMusic
    @JulienCohenMusic 3 місяці тому +2

    I like it that you present the facts and opinions without trying to prove something but rather by admitting that we simply don’t know

  • @WickedFelina
    @WickedFelina Рік тому +20

    Has anyone told you that you'd be GREAT teaching children? Your expressions, and non-threatening demeanor, wrapped in a thoroughly enchanting appearance - FULL of fun! Your character, expression and hand gestures are FULL of color! At least I see that. This is what makes me believe, you would be able to interest children deeply in ancient history, and some, into that very field. Maybe I think like a child? Probably! Lol! It is just something which I have noticed from you since I first found your channel. God Bless and carry on, O GREAT Teacher! ;)

  • @jenniferroxy5956
    @jenniferroxy5956 9 місяців тому +1

    The presentation, enthusiasm and content are exceptional as always, thanx for another good one😊

  • @LiminalQueenMedia
    @LiminalQueenMedia Рік тому +8

    Good format for a series!

  • @MarcinSzyniszewski
    @MarcinSzyniszewski Рік тому +5

    Wow, I didn't know there was so much mystery about the Sumerians! Great idea for videos, hope to learn more ancient mysteries in future videos!

  • @UsmevavyPanacek
    @UsmevavyPanacek Рік тому +1

    I love with how much glee and passion you present your topics, it's simply joy to listen to you.

  • @hoominwifquats
    @hoominwifquats Рік тому +7

    I love your detailed, scholarly, evenly stated presentations considered from every reasonable view. I feel more like I understand it rather than merely have an opinion. It's great the way you lay out the most current research, hope to see updates on that exciting genetic news. Keep it up!

  • @shawngreen9590
    @shawngreen9590 Рік тому

    Just discovered Dr. Miano, and I am now officially hooked. The passion he shows and his straightforward delivery really work to send the message home. Especially love the debunking series, some of those should be part of history curriculums to equip young folks with the tools to resist Rogan's "deep thoughts".

  • @zachh2776
    @zachh2776 Рік тому +9

    Dr. Miano, i must confess that i have been in love with ancient sumeria for close to 20 years, and its because of zecharia sitchen. I have since come back down to earth as far as believing the anunaki stories which fascinated me when i was more impressionable. But i wanted to say that not all alternative research and theories bare bad fruit. While i did once believe all the crazy stuff. I, today, being older and wiser am still left with a love of ancient civilizations and people. So, some good can come out of that stuff.

    • @lorebilim7471
      @lorebilim7471 9 місяців тому

      Farah Yurtözü annunaleri anlatıyor ondan da dinleyebilirsiniz .

  • @skougi
    @skougi Рік тому +1

    Super thanks! Lovely video! It’s amazing how many tools exist to illuminate the past now vs just 20 years ago.

  • @IdwarfRedwoods
    @IdwarfRedwoods Рік тому +15

    Without even watching yet, I must thank you for covering this. The Sumerian civilization is one of the most intriguing and captivating of the ancients and im always happy to absorb the material you cover. Now, on to the video!

  • @calinradu1378
    @calinradu1378 Рік тому +16

    The excavations at Eridu, who many believe to be the earliest Sumerian city state unveiled a culture created out of a mixture of three elements: a fisher-hunter culture of people living in reed houses who came from the south, that is the Arabian littoral of the Persian Gulf, representatives of the Samarra culture who lived in rectangular brick houses and who came from the north, from central Mesopotamia and nomads living in tents who likely came from semi-desert areas, could have been the east, south or west.
    It is interesting to see that while until about 5400 BC when the Ubaid culture arose in southern Mesopotamia areas in what is now central and northern Iraq were more technologically developed but than the center stage of economic and cultural development shifts to were Sumer would be in the future. It is clear that an influx of Samarra elements around that time contributed to this, that is a significant contributor to the rise of the Ubaid culture was the northern Samarra one.
    David, what do you think is the best book or study ever written on Sumerian history? And would you recommend a particular one on Sumerian origins?

  • @gindling1054
    @gindling1054 Рік тому +4

    This was very informative! I never knew that about the perhaps similarities between ancient Sumerian and the Basque and Georgian languages.

  • @Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
    @Its_Shaun_the_Sheep Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @ragnarosthefirelord8662
    @ragnarosthefirelord8662 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for sharing your expertise with us! I admire how well you break down different points of view and analyze the key pieces of evidence. Cheers!

  • @iexist.imnotjoking5700
    @iexist.imnotjoking5700 Рік тому +3

    I was really hoping you'd bring something about the Sumerians. And Dr Miano just can't disappoint, even if he doesn't know!

  • @ThrottleAddiction
    @ThrottleAddiction Рік тому +38

    I got an A+ for an assignment on 'Ancient Sumer' in my year-nine history class, back in 1979.
    While my written information was reasonably factual, it was my illustrations that won the day. (Our history teacher was big fan of illustrations and had himself produced sketches for published works).
    My recollection is that the Sumerians were a people made up of migrated groups to the area, from surrounding regions.

    • @nothanksggl6599
      @nothanksggl6599 Рік тому +3

      it's been 44 years, get over it

    • @ThrottleAddiction
      @ThrottleAddiction Рік тому +19

      @@nothanksggl6599 No, still pumped.

    • @MG-ul3mi
      @MG-ul3mi Рік тому +1

      @nothanksggl6599 bruh don’t be sad

    • @someone-wi4xl
      @someone-wi4xl Рік тому +5

      @@ThrottleAddictionstay awesome!

    • @johnr797
      @johnr797 Рік тому

      ​​​@@ThrottleAddictionstay gold, ponyboy

  • @piercemacguire7754
    @piercemacguire7754 Рік тому +4

    Although I’m not a fan of your debunking videos, I really enjoyed this video. You’re a talented story teller and I hope you’ll make more videos like this.

  • @douglasphillips5870
    @douglasphillips5870 Рік тому +10

    I think Sumerian demonstrates that there were probably many early cultures with their own language that shared language when they came in contact with others. Then there were some languages that so were so dominant that the local languages were lost. We still have Sumerian because they were one of the earliest cultures with writing.

  • @simplyhistory1885
    @simplyhistory1885 Рік тому +22

    Wow, very interesting stuff here. Can you make a video about where the Harappans came from and the Indian subcontinent during that time? Great video as always.

    • @almitrahopkins1873
      @almitrahopkins1873 Рік тому +3

      No one can, because no one can say with absolute certainty where they came from. It is a fascinating culture that we know very little about.

    • @lastofmygeneration
      @lastofmygeneration Рік тому +3

      I second this. Great idea.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 Рік тому

      How could we? We have even less information than the Sumerians, which you see can be ethnically identified only when their writing appears.

    • @SandeepSingh-or7jr
      @SandeepSingh-or7jr Рік тому

      All ancient civilisations said hi to each other via pigeon .
      And Sd good bye forever without leave any trace and reason 😂😂😂

    • @hiphop24-s3s
      @hiphop24-s3s Рік тому

      Ancient Iranian farmers+ south Asian hunter gatherers= Indus valley civilization

  • @capitancangrejo
    @capitancangrejo 4 місяці тому

    Thank you, I've been obsessed with the Sumerians for some days now and your theory made me understand more of what we know of their origin than in any other videos I've watched so far, you put it simple yet mind-blowing

  • @stevesayler1920
    @stevesayler1920 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for clarifying that mud as far as this interested layman can understand any of it. I have been watching the haplotype tracing efforts in the past ten years and I am glad this mess is getting some proper due. It must be scary for professionals to delve into such deep and unknown waters. Very interesting stuff.

  • @timrose9826
    @timrose9826 Рік тому +2

    A good Presentation is very rare
    Your presentation is perfect
    Thank you

  • @faithlesshound5621
    @faithlesshound5621 Рік тому +13

    i saw a lecture on UA-cam by Peter Revesz, a Hungarian-American professor of computational linguistics at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, who claims to have begun to decipher Linear A on the basis that it is a Finno-Ugric language. He says that there is a Finno-Ugric substrate to some of the vocabulary of ancient Greek. He also said in passing that Sumerian was a hybrid language, with Finno-Ugric and Dravidian origins. That's explaining one unknown by two other unknowns.

    • @audeboutet6059
      @audeboutet6059 10 місяців тому +1

      And the fact he's "Finno-Ugric" himself has nothing to do with it.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 10 місяців тому

      @@audeboutet6059 There would not be many American computer types conversant with Hungarian other than those of that descent. What surprises me, if this is a real thing, is that no one noticed this before, given that Latin and Greek were basic school subjects throughout Europe well into the 20th century. Unless, of course, it's well known in Hungary, Estonia and Finland.

  • @DH-zd3de
    @DH-zd3de 6 місяців тому +1

    First video I've seen of yours. I like your style. Thank you.

  • @misterhiggledypiggle
    @misterhiggledypiggle Рік тому +3

    Great video, I always wondered this too, I hope you do more ancient mysteries!

  • @kasturipillay6626
    @kasturipillay6626 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for fantastic content. World of Antiquity. Sumerian civilization facinates most people. It is a mystery. 😊

  • @MyGwegwe
    @MyGwegwe Рік тому +8

    This is great thank you. It boggles my mind that we know the age of the buildings these civilisations leave behind but we don’t know how long they were just hanging around beforehand. Feels like it could be a long time before deciding to build something significant

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      @livrowland171 Рік тому

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    • @livrowland171
      @livrowland171 Рік тому

      😊

  • @ajphilippineexpat
    @ajphilippineexpat 9 місяців тому

    Nice one! Thanks for your detailed synopsis of where current knowledge stands on the issue.

  • @99dfresh
    @99dfresh Рік тому +3

    I love focusing on the things that we don't understand and exploring all the theories. This is way more fun and insightful to how the knowledge is gained instead of just spoon feeding me a conclusion like I was taught in school.

  • @frankwillow-rogersjr.3253
    @frankwillow-rogersjr.3253 Рік тому

    Mr. David Miano is my *New-Best-Friend here OnLine. I respect his obvious venture of Reading-Widely; while having the ability to staunchly put this under-studied Olden Era History: (3000 back to 445,000BCE) clearly and cleanly into perspective! I surely will support these wonderful Works.

  • @commanderhubert5659
    @commanderhubert5659 Рік тому +3

    just found your channel and i’m loving it already! could you please make some more videos on this fascinating culture?

  • @AbdoulBamba
    @AbdoulBamba 2 місяці тому

    Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge!

  • @jeffatwood9417
    @jeffatwood9417 Рік тому +17

    The language conglomerate thesis is what I thought of as well. It’s like a reverse Tower of Babel thesis where different languages blended into a functionally new one. A unifying trade language can easily become a unifying imperial self-image. If this empowered an ordering elite, as “owning” language narratives tends to do for tyrants, then a relatively “new” identity could emerge for those who could speak this conglomerated language. When Judaic ideology forms a retrospective lens to establish its authority, we can see how an observation of language commonalities AFTER Sumerian had been lost when Semitic Akkadians fell out of power. As we know, Sumerian was preserved by Akkadians as a scholastic/ritual relic like Latin or Sanskrit is today and Judaism is a very late summary ideology of these cultures, which were considered ancient to the early kingdom of Judah.
    There is the idea of first urbanized networks built up around Temple complexes around the globe, tying nomadic tribes together, forming a generally conglomerated paradigm network. This means that temple complexes helped form an ideological paradigm wherein certain temples specialized in, as well as shared and stored, particular wisdom. This is the “Priest-King” era of humanity. One can see how trading networks, where certain tribal migrations empowered certain tribes with specific cultural identities based on materials along their migration territories, fed temple wisdom traditions. Raiders along these routes would need to be defended against, giving rise to the Warrior class from which the Temple (“on high”) empowered kings…and early Sumerians talk about how kingship was brought from Heaven (the Temple).
    This is just my thoughts on the topic.

    • @maximilianogabriel9982
      @maximilianogabriel9982 9 місяців тому +1

      Noah was summerian arian

    • @jeffatwood9417
      @jeffatwood9417 9 місяців тому

      @@maximilianogabriel9982 I’ve never heard that, but ok. Do you think Noah was truly from the Sintashta culture? It seems to me that Utnapishtim was MUCH older than the Aryan age. I would think he would have been at least 5000-3000 BCE era. Who knows…maybe he represented the naval arrival of the “Sumerians” to the Southern coasts during the Ubaid period?

  • @acr08807
    @acr08807 Рік тому +1

    What a gem of a channel. Thanks for the great content.

  • @nancyM1313
    @nancyM1313 Рік тому +5

    Thanks Dr. Miano
    Great episodes Everytime💗

  • @SevenHerons
    @SevenHerons Рік тому +1

    Thank you for making a scientific approach to ancient civilizations just as exciting as some of the wild speculation that’s out there!

  • @tekannon7803
    @tekannon7803 Рік тому +4

    Very interesting videocast Professor Miano, could their be some sort of clues to the Sumerian people in the Sumerian reliefs and sculptures and art work? There seems to have been some very skilled artists and sculptors in the time period that they lived in.

  • @michaelzumpano7318
    @michaelzumpano7318 Рік тому

    Excellent! Riveting! I couldn’t look away. You really paint a complete picture of the landscape… very efficiently. Kudos!

  • @Zulutime44
    @Zulutime44 Рік тому +4

    My favorite educated guess is, during the 4th millenium BC, major urban centers in the river deltas in Indus and other rivers became inhospitable for agriculture due to rising sea levels. Sumerians were refugees landing in Mesopotamia just in time for optimum conditions there, bringing their peculiar language and culture with them.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      I have a similar hypothesis but with them originating from what is now the Persian Gulf and the date being ca. 12000-5000 BP. I can cite a couple of papers if you're interested.

  • @wickman.r4662
    @wickman.r4662 Рік тому

    Excellent rhetorical questions to highlight the main topic outline of content

  • @bridgermauchley6179
    @bridgermauchley6179 Рік тому +4

    Pretty unrelated, but I have a question regarding an inscription written by King Ashurbanipal. When he speaks about his literary accomplishments, he mentions being able to read Akkadian and Sumerian as well as being able to "read the pre-flood texts engraved upon stones", is there any idea as to what script he is referring to? Or even what flood? Thanks for the very informative video

    • @HeavensPeace
      @HeavensPeace Рік тому

      Oh my gosh, all the Cuneiform tablets now translated by Oxford University.

    • @bridgermauchley6179
      @bridgermauchley6179 Рік тому

      @@HeavensPeace A) cuneiform tablets are stamped into clay not engraved upon stone
      B)why would he list it separately from the Sumerian texts if they are one in the same

  • @oyesuken
    @oyesuken Рік тому

    Very much enjoyed the content of the video. Wish that the video and audio were in sync, as it was distracting to me. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

  • @amotaba
    @amotaba Рік тому +3

    Excellent video, Prof Miano. You could make a video about who were the ancient egyptians

  • @annepoitrineau5650
    @annepoitrineau5650 Рік тому +2

    I love your channel. I loved your trip to Egypt!

  • @scottyoung4226
    @scottyoung4226 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for another great video!
    I never thought about this until hearing you say they called their language "native tongue", but am I right in inferring that this means the Sumerians were aware of other languages?

    • @WorldofAntiquity
      @WorldofAntiquity  Рік тому +6

      Yes, they were aware.

    • @aszahala
      @aszahala Рік тому +3

      Of course. Most Sumerians became bilingual already in the late third millennium BCE and they ultimately switched their language into Akkadian (called eme-uri in Sumerian) around the 18th century BCE. There are a few Sumerian texts that list several languages, dialects and speech registers that have been lost, so its likely that the linguistic landscape was pretty diverse for some time, until everything was replaced with Akkadian.
      Only thing we know about these mysterious languages and dialects are their names (in Sumerian), except for one dialect known as eme-sal, which literally means a "fine tongue". This was likely originally a dialect of Sumerian that was later adopted as a cultic language, primarily for lamentations. This language is basically Sumerian with strange phonetic transformations. For example, the Sumerian word dugug 'heavy' is zebed in Emesal, and similarly dug 'to be good' is zeb.

  • @leroybrown2610
    @leroybrown2610 Рік тому +2

    Very well written … good job man keep it up please

  • @electra424
    @electra424 Рік тому +27

    Great video! I am always interested to hear anything about the Sumerians, they are absolutely fascinating. I heard a theory that the Sumerians could have possibly been immigrants who were gradually forced inland from the Persian Gulf as a result of rising sea levels due to melting glaciers after the last ice age. Have you heard of this theory, and do you think it is a real possibility? I found it very intriguing, but I would love to hear your thoughts on whether it is a valid theory or not! I love your work, thank you so much!!

    • @marybeavon6580
      @marybeavon6580 Рік тому

      Maybe the Biblical account gives some clues.

    • @hiphop24-s3s
      @hiphop24-s3s Рік тому

      Sumer and Elam are ancient Iranian farmers, proof they also left their DNA and language in India, when this Iranian farmers migrated to India they intermix to South Asian hunter gatherers and created the Indus valley civilization and Dravidians language

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      A couple of related papers: J.I. Rose, _New Light on Human Prehistory in the Arabo-Persian Gulf Oasis,_ 2010 and K. Lambeck, _Shoreline reconstructions for the Persian Gulf since the last glacial maximum,_ 1996.

  • @troygillespie
    @troygillespie Місяць тому

    Really measured and fair presentation of various theories on this topic. I subscribed because of your fair presentation. Way too many channels spreading misinformation or presenting one theory as truth. The academic approach is better. Nice work!

  • @Kalki0025
    @Kalki0025 Рік тому +17

    Akam (Tamil) - Ekim (Sumerian): "Inside" or "interior"
    Muruku (Tamil) - Muru (Sumerian): "To be abundant" or "plenty"
    Ur (Tamil) - Ur (Sumerian): "City" or "town"
    Kal (Tamil) - Gal (Sumerian): "Stone" or "rock"
    Naram (Tamil) - Naram (Sumerian): "Human" or "man"
    Iru (Tamil) - Eru (Sumerian): "To exist" or "to be"
    Mun (Tamil) - Mun (Sumerian): "Before" or "in front of"
    Val (Tamil) - Bal (Sumerian): "Strength" or "power"
    Mulai (Tamil) - Mulu (Sumerian): "Breast" or "chest"
    Kaasu (Tamil) - Ka (Sumerian): "Silver" or "money"

    • @yirmialt2960
      @yirmialt2960 Рік тому

      My englısh not good,sorry.To that oppınıon is fırst Sumerıan s come from Indıa or Africa or Casparıan sea sıde.Nobody know that who was them.Second natıons called themself under name KENGİR-Kıngır.Wrıght belong to them.But they had not let down anythınk.After Kengir Akaddıans comed.Babilians Asyruans ... ... Guttı.Water get up ın Ur cıty.In fırst tıme People run around.And come back they found anımals has stıll ın lıve.They saıd angel comed down and safe them.UR name get to Nur.Nur get to Nor Noar Noah.I thınk ın Asyrus NUH.İn Sumerian storys say Noah hıgh water ... ... Kengir people come ... ın you whrıgt Tamil ... they had lıfe together ... but ın that tıme one day Sumerıans go norh.Kengir stay.Today Kengir name can see ın Orhun ruıns that Turkısh old stone s.Nuh word is Turkısh.Ur in Turkısh town.In travel in Azerbaycan there is Kengir part.Ur İr İl and Ur ir yir yer next to next ın tıme rhıs word stay ın lıfe.And useıng.Ur is mean that people come together place.Uruk ın get UYRUK ... stıll ın Turkısh language is that mean where you home ... where you from ... ait olduğun sorumluluk alanı neresi... in tıme Ur and Uruk cıty states come togater and made Urum cıty ... urumıye lake.Where you from ... answer Uyruk urum ... ın Turkısh tıme to tıme Uyruk Ur and Uygur natıon name come ... some do much walked to maıunton ... they called there Ural ... menim al am ... benim balam ... son s of Ur ... Fın s to east Uygur s get to east walked ... today ın sıde UrumÇİ stıl ınsıde Chıne.Çi gıven that new Urum ... one ın İran ıf today one ın Chıne and walk ın Turks lıfe map.Sümerians fırst Turkısk.From Casparıan sea ... Noah was Ur cıty ... not a person ... Kengir ın you show Tamil ... may be they had get to Indıa ... UR same ın Tamil and Turkısh ... but Turks walk much.word is get ... ... ... bla bla bla ... Tamil s must show them ... Kengir s ın Orhun ... some of them was Turks ... ın Azerbaycan stıll they have place.

    • @yirmialt2960
      @yirmialt2960 Рік тому +1

      Kal (Tamil) Kıl-Çakıl (Turkısh) naram (Tamil) Nara*nahi *Nahiye (Turkısh) Ur (Tamil) Ur İr yir yer - Ur ir il (Turkısh) Sib İR ... no lıfe placecıty ... Seb ir lıfe cıty ... tıme to tıme Şeh ir ... fırst ı remeber ... ... ceza YİR ... ... Tatar Turk

    • @hiphop24-s3s
      @hiphop24-s3s Рік тому +4

      Ancient Iranian farmers+ south Asian hunter gatherers= Dravidians... That's why south Indians have words like that

    • @johanna-hypatiacybeleia2465
      @johanna-hypatiacybeleia2465 3 місяці тому

      @@hiphop24-s3s Proto-Elamo-Dravidian was in southern Iran. Early farmers. The western branch became Elamite. The eastern branch carried agriculture east into India.

  • @brucewilson1958
    @brucewilson1958 Рік тому

    You communicate well! Bravo. A good educator and researcher.

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh Рік тому +10

    What about theory that the Sumerians were from the drowned Persian Gulf as the waters rose up? I know it was a couple thousand years before, but is there any traction at all?

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      AFAIK there hasn't been much research done on the topic. Not surprising given that most of the evidence would be submerged. The only papers that I'm aware of that touch on this subject are J.I. Rose, _New Light on Human Prehistory in the Arabo-Persian Gulf Oasis,_ 2010 and K. Lambeck, _Shoreline reconstructions for the Persian Gulf since the last glacial maximum,_ 1996.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      I did come across one paper that specifically focuses on this topic:
      D.J. Kennett and J.P. Kennett, _Early State Formation in Southern Mesopotamia: Sea Levels, Shorelines, and Climate Change_
      Note however that J.P. Kennett is regarded as somewhat of a fringe scientist, being a proponent of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis and a co-author of the infamous _Nature Scientific Reports_ Sodom meteorite paper.

  • @kencreten7308
    @kencreten7308 11 місяців тому

    this has a bit of the feeling of mystery of a show I used to love when I was a kid called "In Search Of...," except it's real history. Great video. thanks.

  • @lastofmygeneration
    @lastofmygeneration Рік тому +9

    Always love to see another video presentation from the Man, the myth, the Miano!

  • @quinn3334
    @quinn3334 Рік тому +1

    love to see how your channel has grown

  • @SLBLADE
    @SLBLADE Рік тому +8

    This guy should have way more subs he does a killer Job ❤!!!!

  • @jonmars9559
    @jonmars9559 Рік тому +5

    This is definitely a question that will only have a satisfactory answer after DNA can be recovered from multiple sources over the appropriate frame of time and hopefully with accompanying cultural grave goods. Of the several hypotheses mentioned, there may be features representing more than one found once adequate genetic representations can be recovered. Of course even then there will remain room for further questions. Such a fascinating topic.

    • @johnsondoeboy2772
      @johnsondoeboy2772 Рік тому +1

      Or a Time Machine

    • @jonmars9559
      @jonmars9559 Рік тому

      @@johnsondoeboy2772 A time machine would be fun. Of course it's still hard to determine someone's genetic ancestry by looking at them so you'd have to ask them for a cheek swab.

    • @johnsondoeboy2772
      @johnsondoeboy2772 Рік тому

      @@jonmars9559 Yep

  • @brunom64
    @brunom64 Рік тому +2

    This is the one and only NON click bait video with that title! Congrats!!

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      Not a single mention of the word _Anunnaki._ :^)

  • @robertosharpe5995
    @robertosharpe5995 Рік тому +3

    What about a theory that Bantu...Kushitic similarities in language?...an "out of Africa" theory...including ancient roots of Marsh Arabs? Loved the lesson.

  • @anpesteves
    @anpesteves Рік тому +1

    May I ask if you have any content about Inanna? Or if you could share a trusted source that talks about this topic, it could help a lot. Thank you Professor.

  • @willmosse3684
    @willmosse3684 Рік тому +5

    Very interesting. I hope some ancient remains are discovered that allow the archaeogeneticists to get some viable samples. That could teach us so much.

  • @grimmoris
    @grimmoris Рік тому

    You always strive for the best quality possible, thanks for that!

  • @Frostedminifirecracker
    @Frostedminifirecracker Рік тому +4

    It would be interesting to look at the development of trading centers by nomadic groups in gradual contact into more permanent settlements.

  • @theexcellerantonehypertone79

    Wow ❤ much love for this video my brother,
    You should have your own history TV show... the way you speak is really good,
    Really interesting you got a subscriber here. Thank you for your content and please keep up the good work😊

  • @unrealuknow864
    @unrealuknow864 Рік тому +8

    Thank you for this video. It is the one I have been most looking forward to seeing.
    I like the 3rd theory about the Sumerians being an amalgamation of people who created a common language. Like an ancient version of a pigeon language. It would explain why there is no link to any prior language family.
    I have always thought that the flood myth from Sumeria derived from a time when the Persian Gulf was much lower and people had to move to the northwest to escape rising sea levels, but as of now there is no evidence to prove they might have come from that region.

  • @yogi6235
    @yogi6235 Рік тому

    i like the way you discussed and presented. I enjoyed this.

  • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
    @anna_in_aotearoa3166 Рік тому +3

    The concept of the Sumerian culture as an amalgamation arising from the meeting of many different migrant cultures is really interesting, & not one I'd previously encountered? I guess we see a very similar phenomenon more recently in the rise of groups like the Métis, although there the linguistic links to contributory cultural groups are easier to find, just due to being less long ago.
    It's fascinating that despite the centuries of enquiry & speculation, there is still more we can learn about these enigmatic ancient peoples!

    • @Infyra
      @Infyra Рік тому

      Its also weird that a group like that would invent a totally new language with no links to any of the previous ones used in the area, that suggests their culture formed somewhere else and moved there.

  • @mattiasfagerlund
    @mattiasfagerlund Рік тому

    Tack!

  • @Babbajune
    @Babbajune Рік тому +51

    It's very possible that all of our historical records could be lost in some future cataclysm leaving our descendants wondering just from where we originated. It is fun to speculate but how humans detest the unknowable! Thanks, Dr. Miano, for your enjoyable and thought-provoking video. ❤

    • @Eman_Ismail
      @Eman_Ismail Рік тому +3

      That's exactly what's happening to me. I'm trying to understand where we came from and what is our origin

    • @chrishey9879
      @chrishey9879 Рік тому

      atheist are such Fools. This further PROVES the BIBLE. ITS mysterious to you cuz Biblically this and the timelines lines EXACTLY with the end of Noah's flood and when the they developed a community in Babel and that area. Yes the first earliest writing system discovered in that time peroid lines up EXACTLY with the Bible and after Noah's flood. atheist keyboard experts will make some low iq excuse trying to seem intelligent. This is why I have NO sympathy for atheist going to Hell. They go out of their way to deny.

    • @chrishey9879
      @chrishey9879 Рік тому

      ​@@Eman_Ismailatheist are such Fools. This further PROVES the BIBLE. ITS mysterious to you cuz Biblically this and the timelines lines EXACTLY with the end of Noah's flood and when the they developed a community in Babel and that area. Yes the first earliest writing system discovered in that time peroid lines up EXACTLY with the Bible and after Noah's flood. atheist keyboard experts will make some low iq excuse trying to seem intelligent. This is why I have NO sympathy for atheist going to Hell. They go out of their way to deny.

    • @samkostos4520
      @samkostos4520 Рік тому +5

      Records would but lost but not physical evidence of their civilization.

    • @jusrome2037
      @jusrome2037 Рік тому +3

      @@samkostos4520 you completely missed their point. people would still wonder where we came from, and physical evidence is still left over from ancient Sumer. We still wonder where they came from.

  • @27thangel23
    @27thangel23 Рік тому

    Excellent talk- no BS. Peace, love and bellbottoms from Canada.

  • @TheElusiveReality
    @TheElusiveReality Рік тому +3

    i guarantee they were not the first to develop a system for keeping time, they were simply the first ones to document it in such a way that it was not only preserved this long, but in a way that we would even understand

  • @pierremontparnasse
    @pierremontparnasse Рік тому

    Love the way you narrate! Info sticks with one because of the way you say things.

  • @TheDanEdwards
    @TheDanEdwards Рік тому +31

    Some others have commented about the sea levels and changes to topography, but I think the important point is that the idea "first settled the alluvial plain" needs a bunch of asterisks. Modern humans migrated out of Africa into southwest Asia at least 70kya, and perhaps much earlier. Not only were sea levels lower at that time (thanks to continental glaciers) but the upper parts of what today we call the Persian Gulf would have been ideal homes for humans: not too cold, not too hot, full of wildlife to hunt. The deep past is beyond the realm of historiography proper, but it does allow us to ask questions about from where certain groups originate with an understanding that over tens of thousands of years many groups could have come and gone.

    • @unrealuknow864
      @unrealuknow864 Рік тому +1

      10k years ago the Persian Gulf probably didn't exist.

    • @dreddykrugernew
      @dreddykrugernew Рік тому +4

      Some petroglyphs where discovered in Sweden recently dating back 2700 years. In the article it says they are 3 metres high on a rock face and in the article it says 2700 years ago the sea level was 12 meters higher than it is today and these people made the carvings on a boat next to the cliff face...

    • @joyreinhardt7621
      @joyreinhardt7621 Рік тому

      @@dreddykrugernew Quite interesting ! Thx !

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      @@unrealuknow864 The Persian Gulf began flooding around 12000 BP and fully filled by around 5000 BP. Citations if you're interested.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 4 місяці тому

      @@dreddykrugernew That whole region was lower during the Ice Age due to the weight of the ice sheets. Even today the land is still rising.

  • @julietstephens-tripp9031
    @julietstephens-tripp9031 Рік тому

    Thanks! I like this format best from you! Your knowledge is appreciated. Lafayverte

  • @azti6205
    @azti6205 Рік тому +4

    Can you review the Danubian civilization?

    • @HeavensPeace
      @HeavensPeace Рік тому

      Heinrich Kusch: Geheime Unterwelt / Außerirdische und fremde Kulturen vor 60.000 Jahren? (Vortrag) Mystery Files - Rätsel | Phänomene | Unfassbares subtitles and settings to autotranslate. All throughout Southern Austria, Black Forest of Germany following the Danube through Hungary and into the plains of Ukraine and the Danube Delta. Tunnel systems. They educated hominids, they had the Vinca language still not deciphered.

  • @briananderson8512
    @briananderson8512 8 місяців тому

    This is my favorite episode you have ever made

  • @AncientPuzzles
    @AncientPuzzles Рік тому +3

    Great vid Dr. Miano. I think with more ancient DNA this puzzle will be solved👍🏻

  • @TheRotnflesh
    @TheRotnflesh Рік тому +1

    Love the content!
    Are Gobekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe the Sumerian precursors?

  • @laxman90210
    @laxman90210 Рік тому +5

    Could Sumerians and Indus Valley be related/same people who migrated to different places?

  • @janeenguynn8810
    @janeenguynn8810 Рік тому

    Really interesting. Nice to listen to an educational video that had vive and isn't just monotone. Thanks!

  • @WmJared
    @WmJared Рік тому +5

    Would such a creole have developed into a language without leaving more traces of which family structure it came from? Don't languages often use the grammar of one of the elite classes and the vocab base of what more people speak with, so if it were a PIE or Semitic Language even if it were one created through this type of influx and cultural creation and assimilation, would it truly be seen as a language isolate?
    Massively fascinating though! I think I first learned about the Marsh Arab people DNA through Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages (RIP Nick) a couple years ago, always down to learn more, Dr. Miano!
    Also that intro would've totally grabbed like 8-14 year old me super hard lol

  • @gregorynixonAUTHOR
    @gregorynixonAUTHOR Рік тому

    Excellent summary of the evidence!

  • @titanomachy2217
    @titanomachy2217 Рік тому +5

    I believe the Yazidi people indigenous to Mesopotamia are probably the most likely candidates for modern-day descendants of the Sumerians. They display the trait of green or blue eyes which is more or less unique to them in that specific part of the world, and when you look at depictions of Sumerian kings, they almost always have blue eyes of lapis lazuli. They may well have descendants around the world, but in the Middle East itself I think the people with the most Sumerian DNA are the Yazidis. You could claim the Sumerians simply liked lapis lazuli and depicted their kings with this feature to make them look divine or something, but I think that conclusion is mostly fueled by the incorrect popular assumption that everyone that was ever indigenous to the Middle East looked Semitic. Ethnography goes through vast geographic shifts over time, like back in Antiquity and the Bronze Age there were actually lots of white people in North Africa, like the Ptolemaic dynasty set up by Alexander the Great, the Carthaginians, the Romans (Africa is named after the Roman general Scipio Africanus for his victories over the Carthaginians in what is today Tunisia) and the Vandalic Kingdom of North Africa, which was again succeeded by the Romans, this time led by the Byzantine emperor Justinian I, and the Limes Arabicus were Roman fortifications build in Arabia, and you can still see plenty of Roman ruins in the Levant and Egypt, not to mention Greco-Bactrian ruins all the way to hell and gone in Afghanistan, the remnants of Alexander the Great's empire, or rather one of the empires his massive empire broke into when he died. The average normie that is only aware of pop history would call you crazy if you said there were Greeks living in ancient Afghanistan or that not everyone that ever lived in the Middle East was "brown", just as few people that live or have lived in North Africa are actually black, yet according to normies the other continents were always totally homogenous until the white devils arrived. I wouldn't call ancient Egyptians white, but they were more or less Caucasian, with varying amounts of Nubian and Cushite blood mixed in. A DNA study on King Tut found that something like 80% of British men are thought to be related to him, maybe not direct descendants but relatives (by descent, not just by having prehistoric common ancestors like everyone does) nonetheless. I don't think it's all that far-fetched to suggest some of the Sumerians could have had blue eyes, once you let go of the assumptions about the Middle East and ethnography over vast stretches of time that have been promoted by pop culture and poor education. Prior to the expansion of the Arab population throughout the Islamic world and conquest, potential enslavement and possible genocide of the countless ethnic groups they encountered, the racial demographics of that part of the world were vastly different, way more diverse than today. Ancient Persians were more or less white, as you can still occasionally see in an Iranian that doesn't have much Arab ancestry, and as you can see from their portraits, some Ottoman Sultans of Aryan descent were basically white, with fair hair and skin and light-colored irises. The name "Iran" means "Land of the Aryans", and it was found that the origin point of the Indo-European languages and Caucasian DNA is thought to be somewhere around the Black Sea, roughly corresponding to the horseback-riding, pastoral Andronovo culture, which is more or less proto-Scythian, and the Scythian-adjacent Saka people lived around what is today Iran, between the Caspian and Black Sea, where the Caucus Mountain range is, hence the terms "Aryan" and "Caucasian" and their associations with whiteness. Caucasian people are thought to have come about around 40,000 years ago, but presumably they didn't start really spreading out and forming the civilizations we know today until the late Neolithic or Chalcolithic. The Aryans invaded the Indian subcontinent, and to this day the Brahmin-descended and Kshitrya-descended Indians tend to have lighter skin, and northern Indians tend to be lighter-skinned than southern Indians, possessing less Dravidian blood, which is what makes Indians so dark. Most people basically believe and continue to perpetuate the misconception that white people were confined to Europe up until the Age of Sail, when they suddenly invented imperialism, colonialism, and slavery. This mistaken belief is often paired with a complete absence of knowledge about other civilizations, which leads to them filling in the details with people holding hands and singing Kumbaya up until the wicked white devils arrived on their shores, inducing inter-racial conflict for the first time in history. I can only imagine how much less anti-white sentiment would be popularized by academia and the media if the average person simply bothered to fact-check and study history in earnest for themselves. Public school curricula and Hollywood and TV and breadtubers all churn out anti-white propaganda characterized by lies of omission, like harping on the gritty, horrific details of the trans-Atlantic slave trade ad nauseum but failing to ever so much as mention the much older, longer-lasting, and far more prolific trans-Saharan slave trade. Stepping back for a second, i think it's so hilariously ironic how white people didn't invent slavery, but instead pioneered the global abolition of slavery, THAT'S what makes our civilization unique, not our slavery but the lack of it, and yet we are the only race that gets shamed for having practiced slavery in the past. There's no excuse for the anti-white bigotry and ignorance about these subjects in this time and place where everyone has access to a smartphone. Sorry, went off on a tangent there, but I feel passionately about history and politics and wish more people put the effort in to learn about this amazing world we live in rather than spouting racist bullshit blaming all the world's supposed problems on white people, which I see on TikTok and UA-cam every damn day, even when I try to avoid it. I open Google and bam: the articles listed will be whinging about "whiteness", which they find some way to relate to practically every current event. Wish this stuff didn't have to be said, but every year I hear more and more genocidal rhetoric, dehumanizing whites as though all we do all the time is go around finding ways to oppress people, all without even being cognizant of what we are doing. They talk about whites like they are demons, not part of humanity, as though they are collectively animated by this eldritch, destructive, all-consuming force they call "whiteness", driving us to ruin everything for everyone all the time.
    And we're not alone in being the targets of genocidal sentiments in spades. Sadly, Islamic extremists are waging a genocidal campaign against the Yazidis to this very day, with their women routinely being targeted for r@pe. These hard-line Muslims demand complete ideological conformity, despising the Yazidis for practicing their ancestral faith, and low-key promoting Arab supremacist sentiments. Muslims may tell you race isn't a factor in the islamic world, but the facts of the matter aren't so pretty. Black people are still regularly referred to by the epiphet "abeed" meaning "slaves", in fact the common name Abdullah was a name given to one of Mohammad's black slaves, it means "slave of Allah", conferred to him because of his obedience. The Yazidi people are in dire straits, I hope they can survive this genocidal onslaught and someday live in peace in their homelands. The violent process of Islamification is still ongoing in many parts of the world, in fact some places, such as central Afghanistan, in the highlands, were only turned Muslim as recently as the 19th century, where they still retain some pre-Islamic practices. And oh man, don't get me started on how most people think of the Crusades as though Arabs had always owned that part of the world, totally ignoring the fact that it was in Byzantine Christian hands up until the Rashidun Caliphate took their territories in West Asia a few centuries prior. It's absurd to hold it against a people for trying to take back their territory from the people that took it in the first place. Now the Northern Crusades, THEY were aggressive and uncalled for holy wars against people that simply wanted to continue practicing their ancestral Baltic Pagan faith. But from a purely geopolitical stance the Crusades were pretty understandable, let alone the religious significance of the Levant.

    • @violahamilton782
      @violahamilton782 2 місяці тому

      That was quite the long essay, but I appreciate your sentiments. I hope y ou're able to teach receptive young people!

  • @karenbenning2166
    @karenbenning2166 2 місяці тому

    Super great video!

  • @cacogenicist
    @cacogenicist Рік тому +7

    I suspect they originated in the Persian/Arabian Gulf basin. If any of those words actually have origins in non-Sumerian languages, they may have been picked up from contact with other peoples in that basin -- before it flooded to the level it was at at the founding of Eridu.
    Surely people lived in that basin as the ice sheets began to retreat. It would have been a very nice place to live, with a large river, lakes, and so forth, and better weather than surrounding regions.
    The Sumerians may have moved slowly ahead of the advancing waters over many centuries, following the river. This origin is compatible with some of their old myths, and the fact of their language being an isolate.

    • @unrealuknow864
      @unrealuknow864 Рік тому +7

      I have long thought that was the basis of the Epic of Gilgamesh and the possible origin of the Sumerians. 10k years ago the Persian Gulf was almost non existent. People who lived in that valley with the river running through it would have experienced a rather sudden rise in sea levels and been displaced.

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist Рік тому +5

      @@unrealuknow864 - And the earliest period of the Eridu settlement was, IIRC, _roughly_ around the time when the gulf waters would have stopped advancing significantly, I believe. That's ... suggestive, at least.