Watching the whole interview, DeJounte isn’t bitter or hating. He actually showed a lot of appreciation for the Spurs and their organization. The issue was that he didn’t understand why the things were the way they were in the organization as a rookie. Nobody told him anything until Kawhi told him what was up. All the support financially and success was after that rookie year, after Kawhi basically took him under his wing to help him navigate. And that’s the thing, these vets are afraid of rookies taking their jobs, so they don’t help them. And Kawhi and Tony clearly aren’t friends, and it makes sense that Kawhi would help DJ take Tony’s spot in a way. The Steven Jackson stuff I do agree with. He is bitter, but because he felt like he deserved more. But ultimately it’s about team and not about his desire to be a self proclaimed “star” or even leader on that team. And the same stuff he said about Tony absolutely applies to him too. Pot meet kettle.
Thanks for chiming in. I only saw the clips like most people did. I'll be searching out the whole interview to get a more leveled view of things. Edit: Nevermind. The video listing says it's like 1.5 hrs. I'll make do with your summary!
Nah dejounte was a unique specimen when he came however before he could show his stuff he got injured FAST and it wasnt like a couple months hell nah. It was a year and some change. Spurs fans wanted dejounte but nope and of course when he came back it was meh.
Stephen Jackson is a hater yes but DeJounte actually praised Pop and the spurs organization. I know one thing Murray always says is he’s grateful that Pop took a chance on him. He didn’t understand how rookies were treated. It was Leonard who explained everything to him and helped him find his was as a rook.
Hater? Outside of saying he doesn't like Tony or when he claimed Pop tried to get him to say Ginobli is a better player than him. Neither of these means he is, but how is he a hater?
@@HooksyCollins u literally just said he hated Tony but he's not a hater🤔. Idk if u live under a rock but he blames his career falling apart on the spurs if that's not hating idk what is
@@celticsfan4lyfe33 Hating someone doesn't make you a hater, I don't know what suburbs you been living in🤦🏾♂️. If someone shoots your loved one does that make you a hater? No. But I watch hella Cap Jack and I never heard him say his career was cut short or he didn't get to his full potential due to The Spurs. I only heard him say how he doesn't like Tony and how he was mad Pop wanted him to say someone else is better than him. He won a title with them early and wanted more money so he left to Indiana where he says his career got messed up because that team could've legitimately won a title. His beef with The Spurs was literally his last 2 or 3 seasons in the league so yeah I read and watch full interviews not make broad statements because I don't like somebody's attitude, no living under rocks here buddy guy.
If he really did watch the interview, he would've seen how much praise he was giving the spurs for teaching him also. Love his content but he's got something against Hawks lol
He bet on himself and declined Spurs offer only to find out NO OTHER TEAM wanted him for that price. Surprise Surprise. But yet, he's mad at Spurs for that? Funny ain't it
@@MikeyMike923 Dude Danny scored like 6 threes in a single game in a finals series and was a top level defender for the Spurs for years. Jackson at that point was basically out the NBA and they gave him a nice veteran contract
@@blablablaa14 did you not watch the video? Cap did the same to seal the 03 title in the 4th quarter. Jacks was also a starter and 18-20 ppg scorer and solid defender in GS and Indiana. When has Danny showed the ability to even play on ball? Danny has no ball handling or play making skills. He's a 1 level scorer and was a damn good defender.
@@blablablaa14didn’t also Danny Green went to the Raptors with Kawhi and didn’t they bring Toronto a chip because the great defensive wings that they’re
Those of us who have followed him closely since being drafted know how emotive he can be, and we’ve seen plenty of pro-Spurs posts slapped across his gram for the last 5 years citing that they changed his life for the better. What’s interesting about his narratives is that they’re based on assumptions around intent, E.g. that the Spurs must have not believed he was capable because of how they treated him or that TP must have been upset if he didn’t stick around to mentor him. What did TP owe him? The Spurs are always sure of a guys character when they draft them. He was likely just naive to the challenging way in which coaches develop character, and bitter that TP had his own interests at heart. One thing I know is that if Pop, TD, and Manu believe in Parker’s character then that’s where I’d put my money.
After watching the full interview I’d add that I think Dejonte spoke pretty fairly about things. I think by cutting it up you miss the context that he’s really just explaining what it was like to go through the process there rather than criticising it. It doesn’t pass blame on why it was difficult. If anything SJ tries to steer the conversation toward criticism, especially around TP. DJ speaks highly of them paying him post-injury, and reading between the lines, they sent him away mutually to where he wanted to be traded based on his development not fitting with where the team was at. I may not agree with him insinuating things about his place alongside Derrick, but no player is going to feel good about competition over their place. We probably have to admit that the system does limit players as individuals and he pointed that out too. No one is perfect, nor is any org, but I think he comes off as grateful and equally as candid about his perspective which holds as much weight as anyone else’s. I wish him well.
tony parker gave murray some love during his jersey retirement day ..... if he doesn't care about him,he shouldn't mentioned his name ..... murray probably got a little bit upset cuz he's got traded ..... but can't blame the spurs either,the 7'4" french sweepstakes is waiting,why not try grabbing it .....
DJ was the 29pick not a 1-5, plus had players in front of him that had more experience and had won Champions. Then got injured, you can't blame that on Spurs. The Spurs were patient with his recovery and got to be the face of the franchise. He sounds like a hurt gf.
@@ghostmiko5762 Showing both sides and being more bias and critical of one side are two different things. The negatives said about Park, the Spurs etc were references to comments by others and/or events. Murray and Jackson had personal remarks made about them that weren't referencing comments from others or events which is why in Murray's case they were speculative at best.
Jack and Murray's experiences as a Spur are completely different though. Also Murray became the #1 option before the trade, unlike Jack. But they are right about Tony Parker snake ass lol
They also gave D.J a contract extension after he tore his achilles? 6 years with the Spurs 2 as a starter 1 injured 3 learing the game. Bro come on nobody held him back, he should be tearing it up in ATL but they are playing .500 ball
Every player that’s been on the spurs since Duncan’s years seemingly wasn’t happy with their role or felt mistreated. Jackson wasn’t a top tier talent and might be bitter, but it’s probably mixed with some truth. Kawhi bounced, Aldridge wasn’t utilized at his best nor demar and now Murray. I think the spurs just had the right guys at the right time and made the most of it.
They absolutely maximized lamarcus. He had some of the best seasons of his career in San Antonio. Pretty blew was he was never an elite talent or leader so there’s only so much you can draw from guys like that
If that’s true…then why do so many former Spurs players still work for the organization in some capacity? Or why is it when you go to a Spurs home game, so many former players are there ?? Are they realllllllyyyy that unhappy ?
@@jonathanwstx if you actually hear all the players they always have a high praise for pop only but not the Spurs organization. Even Steve Jackson never says anything bad about pop and Duncan at all and only praises them but he don’t like how the gm and owner act behind the scenes . Just like kawhi, demar, dj, etc. Tbh even tony Parker is hated by all of em dj kawhi jack most of his teammates all said bad things about him as a teammate and you can tell tbh if you legit having sex with your teammate wife while your wife is actually bad asf man you legit don’t give af bout no one but yourself. Even Manu said in a documentary it took him a long time to actually like tony . Patty mills himself said tony wasn’t the leader he just played and always wanted to score more and not pass but pop wouldn’t allow that system. Man if kawhi hates you then your definitely the problem cuz kawhi hated no one. Even pop wanted to trade tony even after the chips after the scandal cuz it literally made every teammate not fuck with tony at all but that contract was too big to trade him and they wouldn’t get the same value back. After that incident it killed the locker room even when they won tony was excluded from the team and it took new role players for that to go away literally a whole new team. Which is why you saw tony leave but not manu and Duncan they had a level of respect for him that they didn’t have for Parker heck they payed both of em what they weren’t going to get in the market their last few years even when they were way out of their prime because the organization loved them but they didn’t want to pay tony anything and tony got mad and left even tho he literally wasn’t the same player at all and you saw that in hornets without Duncan and pop he was a generic pg. tony got lucky taht he landed with manu and Duncan who would’ve been great anywhere else tony wouldn’t have been great anywhere else. It legit took years for pop to rebuild him from the ground up and actually teach him how to pass and speak English and play basketball the right way no other team would’ve done that back in the day they would’ve saw what he was and wouldn’t do much and he would just be another pg in the league
Guess he didn't watch the documentary. Dude sounds like Tucker Carlson. The fans clearly started it. Dude acts like Jack just walked up there and punched a fan for no reason. Some of those Detroit fans were WAY out of order.
If all these players like kawhi dejounte Stephen Jackson and him cheating with his teammates wife what if it is tony and you can’t see that because you liked his game
The only thing I didn't like was that he thought he would get mentored There's competition in every sports team so what he said was nothing out of the ordinary He is probably just too young to see the big picture If Trae Young ended up leaving it would be so crazy Murray ended up being the franchise player for the hawks
He also mentioned the incident with Paolo in that “All the Smoke” interview, and explains the situation. Why cut that out, he loves Paolo and expected the season he’s having.
He also didn't mention the fact that the reason why Dejounte Murray showed out against Paolo in that game because Paolo was talking trash and bragging about being drafted number 1. Long story short Murray and Paolo still cool with each other just tough love.
I was at that game, it was in Tacoma. Paolo and his boys were talking big shit. And no the hometown crowd wasn’t there to see Paolo. We came to see Dejounte aka baby boy. Baby boy was playing with guys from the city regular hood dudes, Paolo had a duke teammate on his team and still lost a game against him.
I could be wrong but i feel like stephen jackson knew he was never gonna be like a top 75 player so adding those "2 rings" from SA to his resume isnt fixing that. hed rather ball out somewhere else where he can be a number one or two guy and earn a fat payday
Well, if that Malice in the Palace incident doesn't happen, fracturing Indiana's team cohesion and injuries to Reggie, they maybe could have been EC champs and went to the Finals. Jack was still 4th best player on Indiana, behind Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest and Reggie Miller. But he was still a starter. In SA, Kawhi would be starting SG. Coming off the bench is a blow to dudes' egos. We saw that with Russ in LA, earlier this year. Indiana played a higher scoring, jump shot, in & out oriented offense.
Thanks Casey! Coach Don Nelson - was once a mentor to Coach Pops. So both coaches had a weird, old school policy towards how they treated (or mis-treated) their rookies. Do you ever hear about how the Run TMC Warriors - who only needed a big man to become a dominant NBA team - and when they finally get their big man in Chris Weber - Don Nelson mis-treats Weber so badly that Chris demands a trade after only his first season? And now you mention this with Dejounte Murray. And things weren't alright with top young player Kawhi Leonard. Tough love coaching... It's not inconsequential - young NBA players of today are so pampered and catered to that this old school strategy of coaching may be obsolete.
Pander to players... because they're pandered to?? FUCK EM!!! Murray done fuck all and was the 29th pick. EARN what you want!!! But NO, go on this single monma energy podcast and trash your "ex"...
DJ is just immature. He said the Spurs kinda held him back and he couldn't grow as a player. He literally became the player he is today because of the Spurs. I can't wait what he has to say about the Hawks once he leaves.
You showed multiple clips of the interview but proceeded to lie about the Paolo incident? That was talked about in the interview but yet you go on to say “Dejounte was mad bc the fans showed up for Paolo and not him” that’s a lie lol.
Parker literally twice the player jack was analytically speaking but he did help himself to his bestfriends wife so there is some merrit to whats being said.
@@penguinsinorbit2034you don’t control nobody that ain’t ur kids, and that’s only partially. That’s not your job people make choices n u respond to it. Only person you can truly 100% control is yourself
@@penguinsinorbit2034mans risked way too much for a so called buddies wife it fucks wit team chemistry cause everybody in that locker room looking at you differently
Nah I saw that game he was heated for no reason tryna punk the rookie nd bully him infront of the crowd ......one thing is to talk shyt in a game another is try a be a bully to a dam rookie
I'm sorry, but his gang life as you described it oh and the fact that there was a comment calling you out for exactly that and then it magically disappeared almost a minute after it was posted.
I don't like the way you approached this video. It comes across as a clear bias against anyone that has anything bad to say about the Spurs, as if they are above criticism. And attacking their character because they have personal experiences that back up their claims is unbecoming. Notice how you would gloss over Tony Parker's ego to bash Dejounte for pointing it out and earning his spot. And you purposely left out Kawhi's testimonies because it doesn't fit the narrative of leaving the Spurs and falling into obscurity. Stephen Jackson is 100% right: you do NOT try to bully a player for another's benefit. That's distasteful af.
I agree with Jack and DJ on Tony. Tony didn’t want to give up that starting spot, and also called out Kawhi. No matter what if the injury was legit, just back your teammates
I think they knew something before we did kawhi doesn't seem interesting in winning just look at the clippers that team was supposed to win a ring by now but kawhi it's the less played most played player so you gotta love him for that . 😂
Kawhi doesn't seem to be interested in winning? That statement does not seem sensible in view of the fact that Kawhi is THE WINNIGGEST player in the whole history of the NBA... He won more games, in winning percentage, than Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Magic and everyone else??
@@johnmarkson1990 it’s not about being a follower or a sheep it’s about putting your ego and all personal accolades To the side for the sake of the team. DJ is a immature narcissist so of course he wasn’t gonna last here
Dejounte said the fans were talking to him “sideways” and started talking some “street” sh*t. That’s when he went off. Unfortunately, Paolo had to take the brunt of it…
Watching the whole interview, DeJounte isn’t bitter or hating. He actually showed a lot of appreciation for the Spurs and their organization. The issue was that he didn’t understand why the things were the way they were in the organization as a rookie
You mean like Draymond "Triple Single" Green and JJ Redick? You expect an All-Star player past or present to have a podcast? Sometimes, role players were still respected in the league and have charismatic personalities. I dont recall Jack or Matt claiming they were All Stars, but they had long careers, are respected by many players and made their money. Top ex-players work for ESPN or FOX, not podcasts (Shaq, Barkley, D Wade, Reggie, C Webb). Lebron's HBO show "The Shop" is the closest you'll see to that.
Steven Jackson till this day doesn't understand that's the San Antonio Spurs keep and develop players that are over themselves And want to be coached and improve and get better. What did Kawhi say after he won his championship with the Spurs he told pop "thank you for pushing me" every great player in the NBA had to be pushed in order to improve and accept lesser roles to improve the team. Some players don't like it and some players trust the system. I'm sure Russell Westbrook wasn't happy when they told him he wasn't starting but look at him now he's coming off the bench and he's contributing.
I don't mind DJ and Stack talking shit on TP. Tony Parker slept with his teammate's wife, refuses to mentor a young guy if they threaten his position and accuses them of faking the seriousness of an injury to encourage them to lace up. Sounds like a pretty consistently bad 'teammate' tbh. Would be hard to be on those Spurs teams with your starting point doing this kind of shit behind the scenes.
nah, this is gossipy and weird. Dude has praised Pop and the Spurs multiple times and he was even correct about their system not being able to sustain itself, and look at the Spurs now. They really don't have any future and are going to have to rely on lucky picks to get great players again.
Thanks for the background info about Dejounte. Only thing i knew before your video was his childish behavior towards Paolo Banchero in a pre season game. I couldn't judge him by his performance after that. But now, knowing about his past and that he nursed his grandmother, I have respect for him.
You didn’t fully do your research on DJ. He went hard at Paolo because everyone in Paolos camp was talking shit that he wasn’t gonna do nothing. He proved them wrong
Good. Someone called DJ out on him being a bitter player. Why can't he still get over the Spurs when he's already with the Hawks where he claims he is "free and wanted"? He's whining like a guy who got dumped by a hot girl whom he thought would never dump him cuz he thinks he's too hot. He knew he f#ck*d something up and blaming the Spurs and not be accountable for his side. Spurs still living in his head rent-free and he can't move on.
I am not surprised that a Spurs fan is defending any criticisms toward the Spurs. Pop and his backwards way of running the organization is what's keeping this team down.
WHAAAAT ? Someone you said is from a family of gang members and was dealing with it growing up, lost his sister to her bf shooting her dead...HAS ANGER DEEP DOWN INSIDE? It's literally in the family to have anger issues, that's what gangs are! Is it normal to shoot up the block on occasion? Beef to the death with the neighboring family and fight with other whole parts of the city? Nah, that's what gangs do
To be honest I don’t think u watched the interview in full because he did say he eventually understood what they were doing so your kind of making this video one sided and not talking the other… I respect your viewpoints and your videos but this one is misleading tho in my opinion…
In the NBA or any professional sport team it is hard to because a lot of people are watching you. It is ok to fight and stand firm if someone coming after your family but do it the right way not the wrong way. No one is perfect but you can always be better than yesterday.
Man I’d encourage you to watch more episodes of all the smoke and see what a positive spin Jack has on a lot of these interviews that shed light on what goes on behind the scenes in the nba that the media doesn’t cover. Show Jack some love and don’t put a negative spin on Murray. Watch the whole interview. He’s appreciative of where he is today
1:12 No one "has to" like you. You are a rookie in the league, Spurs wanted to take time with your development because you did have character issues (thus many other teams passed on you even though you probably deserved to be drafted a bit higher). Spurs put you to G-League to help with your development and helped you learn team play, defense and get you to be familiar with playing in the league. 2:10 Tony Parker didn't "have to" mentor you. Why do you think you deserve to be mentored automatically by a future HOF? "He would've mentored you like he should have"? Privilege much?
Nah this guy doesn’t know how good stackjack was on GSW and helped us when he played small ball 4 and guarded Dirk and we beat the 1 seed as an 8th seed..
“The spurs set his career up how does he not see that” bro was treated like garbage and you want him to look at the bright side of being treated like garbage?
It's not a good idea for a current player to speak ill of an NBA team. The owners of the NBA team can black ball him. They look out for each other just like they all blackballed Ime Udoka.
You gotta appreciate and give credit where it matters, I think A M Hoops is one sided, just because dejounte panned out pretty good we can't credit Spurs organization for toxicity, they just waived a 1st round pick; as the saying goes "NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE"; props to dejounte for doing good finally feels like he is wanted
I agree of what you all said Casey, its his upbringing and character that build him of what he's acting now. Of all the podcasters interviewed him its nonsense because Stephen Jackson hates the Spurs coz Pop chooses Tony and Manu over him which came as the right decision to do, thats why Stephen loves to interview a player to hate Spurs. He hates because the Spurs is successful by choosing Manu and Toni over him. If Dejounte was drafted by another team he would not be a player hed become now. He was a turn over machine as a rookie with defensive potenitial and he's shot is inaccurate but he's athletic and he also said that he loves Pop because he trait as a father to him. His game would not be like that if the Spurs doesnt patiently develop him. He was injured and still the Spurs still help him because of his background and want him to succeed. His silly now because he expects the Spurs will make him a number 1 option and he wants the team to build around him when Derozan is gone but the Spurs traded him instead. Honestly if he's not drafted by the Spurs he'd be gone now in the NBA.
Whenever someone says I’m not a psychologist but…. 😅😅also just assuming that’s why he was hating on banchero, you could go watch the video where he explains what happened in that game, you haven’t seen it?
So you saying "the way they treated him helped him! how does he not see that..." I will tell you right now as a manager over a department of 20, Tim Duncan as the *leader* on that team not speaking to someone and giving him an opportunity to feel a part of and welcomed indeed does NOT help someone.
Spurs literally talked down to TD even when he was a star. Dejounte def wasn’t going to get star treatment. Dejounte may have left the gang, but he still acts all gangsta. It’s boring and tedious and we’ve all heard it before.
I usually like your content but this video was hard to watch. You are dehumanizing the players that didn’t fit in with the system, the last three all stars Dejounte, Damar, and Kawhi express how they was unhappy in that system. There has to be problem in San Antonio
Watching the whole interview, DeJounte isn’t bitter or hating. He actually showed a lot of appreciation for the Spurs and their organization. The issue was that he didn’t understand why the things were the way they were in the organization as a rookie. Nobody told him anything until Kawhi told him what was up. All the support financially and success was after that rookie year, after Kawhi basically took him under his wing to help him navigate.
And that’s the thing, these vets are afraid of rookies taking their jobs, so they don’t help them. And Kawhi and Tony clearly aren’t friends, and it makes sense that Kawhi would help DJ take Tony’s spot in a way.
The Steven Jackson stuff I do agree with. He is bitter, but because he felt like he deserved more. But ultimately it’s about team and not about his desire to be a self proclaimed “star” or even leader on that team. And the same stuff he said about Tony absolutely applies to him too. Pot meet kettle.
He was just being hazed, idiot. LMAO 🤣
Thanks for chiming in. I only saw the clips like most people did. I'll be searching out the whole interview to get a more leveled view of things.
Edit: Nevermind. The video listing says it's like 1.5 hrs. I'll make do with your summary!
Dejounte is such a narcissist though
Nah dejounte was a unique specimen when he came however before he could show his stuff he got injured FAST and it wasnt like a couple months hell nah. It was a year and some change. Spurs fans wanted dejounte but nope and of course when he came back it was meh.
Thank you for clarifying this!
Stephen Jackson is a hater yes but DeJounte actually praised Pop and the spurs organization. I know one thing Murray always says is he’s grateful that Pop took a chance on him. He didn’t understand how rookies were treated. It was Leonard who explained everything to him and helped him find his was as a rook.
Hater? Outside of saying he doesn't like Tony or when he claimed Pop tried to get him to say Ginobli is a better player than him. Neither of these means he is, but how is he a hater?
@@HooksyCollins I mean idj
Another Kawhi W
@@HooksyCollins u literally just said he hated Tony but he's not a hater🤔. Idk if u live under a rock but he blames his career falling apart on the spurs if that's not hating idk what is
@@celticsfan4lyfe33 Hating someone doesn't make you a hater, I don't know what suburbs you been living in🤦🏾♂️. If someone shoots your loved one does that make you a hater? No. But I watch hella Cap Jack and I never heard him say his career was cut short or he didn't get to his full potential due to The Spurs. I only heard him say how he doesn't like Tony and how he was mad Pop wanted him to say someone else is better than him. He won a title with them early and wanted more money so he left to Indiana where he says his career got messed up because that team could've legitimately won a title. His beef with The Spurs was literally his last 2 or 3 seasons in the league so yeah I read and watch full interviews not make broad statements because I don't like somebody's attitude, no living under rocks here buddy guy.
I think your view on this is extremely one sided….his gang life is also irrelevant to this discussion smh
If he really did watch the interview, he would've seen how much praise he was giving the spurs for teaching him also. Love his content but he's got something against Hawks lol
Always the victim lol
He white lol what u expect🤷
Make your own video then if you so smart.
He barley mentioned it
Stephen Jackson and how he handled things with the spurs is classic Lmfaoo
Hes george floyds hommie what do you expect
He bet on himself and declined Spurs offer only to find out NO OTHER TEAM wanted him for that price. Surprise Surprise. But yet, he's mad at Spurs for that? Funny ain't it
@@mangobanananagarbage comment lmao 😭💀
@@mangobananana my guy
@@mangobananana fucked around and got suffocated 💀
I think its hilarious that Steven Jackson couldn't admit Manu and Green were better than him. Like they were miles ahead of him
Danny Green was not a better player then Captain at any point. When has Green ever carried an offense for even a few games? Stop the madness.
@@MikeyMike923 Dude Danny scored like 6 threes in a single game in a finals series and was a top level defender for the Spurs for years. Jackson at that point was basically out the NBA and they gave him a nice veteran contract
@@blablablaa14 did you not watch the video? Cap did the same to seal the 03 title in the 4th quarter.
Jacks was also a starter and 18-20 ppg scorer and solid defender in GS and Indiana. When has Danny showed the ability to even play on ball? Danny has no ball handling or play making skills. He's a 1 level scorer and was a damn good defender.
Jack is way better than Danny Red lmao
@@blablablaa14didn’t also Danny Green went to the Raptors with Kawhi and didn’t they bring Toronto a chip because the great defensive wings that they’re
my boy A.M. has the smoothest end of video transitions 😂😂
Fr tho 😂
Those of us who have followed him closely since being drafted know how emotive he can be, and we’ve seen plenty of pro-Spurs posts slapped across his gram for the last 5 years citing that they changed his life for the better. What’s interesting about his narratives is that they’re based on assumptions around intent, E.g. that the Spurs must have not believed he was capable because of how they treated him or that TP must have been upset if he didn’t stick around to mentor him. What did TP owe him? The Spurs are always sure of a guys character when they draft them. He was likely just naive to the challenging way in which coaches develop character, and bitter that TP had his own interests at heart. One thing I know is that if Pop, TD, and Manu believe in Parker’s character then that’s where I’d put my money.
After watching the full interview I’d add that I think Dejonte spoke pretty fairly about things. I think by cutting it up you miss the context that he’s really just explaining what it was like to go through the process there rather than criticising it. It doesn’t pass blame on why it was difficult. If anything SJ tries to steer the conversation toward criticism, especially around TP. DJ speaks highly of them paying him post-injury, and reading between the lines, they sent him away mutually to where he wanted to be traded based on his development not fitting with where the team was at. I may not agree with him insinuating things about his place alongside Derrick, but no player is going to feel good about competition over their place. We probably have to admit that the system does limit players as individuals and he pointed that out too. No one is perfect, nor is any org, but I think he comes off as grateful and equally as candid about his perspective which holds as much weight as anyone else’s. I wish him well.
tony parker gave murray some love during his jersey retirement day ..... if he doesn't care about him,he shouldn't mentioned his name ..... murray probably got a little bit upset cuz he's got traded ..... but can't blame the spurs either,the 7'4" french sweepstakes is waiting,why not try grabbing it .....
I enjoyed DM’s interview I thought it was good insight into the rookie journey and how different team cultures play a part in player development
DJ was the 29pick not a 1-5, plus had players in front of him that had more experience and had won Champions. Then got injured, you can't blame that on Spurs. The Spurs were patient with his recovery and got to be the face of the franchise. He sounds like a hurt gf.
No go watch the actual interview he still gave the spurs a decent amount of praise. This was not a good video 🤣
@@hoodie_bron I did, he acts like he was the 1 number one pick. If the Spurs had not selected him he might have not gotten selected.
@@marco477utep no he didn’t act like that at all lol but Ight your opinion
@@hoodie_bron Actually he did. He question why others players had more playing time.
If you’re the last pick of the first round in the draft,how would you act when you’re a rookie and you don’t get playing time?
This came off more as a one sided hit piece.
was gonna say the same thing
Not really he showed both sides pops coaching and the spurs over all and Murray's feelings and Jackson...its up to you to decide ur opinion
@@ghostmiko5762 Showing both sides and being more bias and critical of one side are two different things. The negatives said about Park, the Spurs etc were references to comments by others and/or events. Murray and Jackson had personal remarks made about them that weren't referencing comments from others or events which is why in Murray's case they were speculative at best.
Jack and Murray's experiences as a Spur are completely different though. Also Murray became the #1 option before the trade, unlike Jack. But they are right about Tony Parker snake ass lol
I didn't realize you were also a sports psychologist.
They also gave D.J a contract extension after he tore his achilles? 6 years with the Spurs 2 as a starter 1 injured 3 learing the game. Bro come on nobody held him back, he should be tearing it up in ATL but they are playing .500 ball
Every player that’s been on the spurs since Duncan’s years seemingly wasn’t happy with their role or felt mistreated. Jackson wasn’t a top tier talent and might be bitter, but it’s probably mixed with some truth. Kawhi bounced, Aldridge wasn’t utilized at his best nor demar and now Murray. I think the spurs just had the right guys at the right time and made the most of it.
Jacko was a talent tho. He was a good player
They absolutely maximized lamarcus. He had some of the best seasons of his career in San Antonio. Pretty blew was he was never an elite talent or leader so there’s only so much you can draw from guys like that
If that’s true…then why do so many former Spurs players still work for the organization in some capacity? Or why is it when you go to a Spurs home game, so many former players are there ?? Are they realllllllyyyy that unhappy ?
@@jonathanwstxso true
@@jonathanwstx if you actually hear all the players they always have a high praise for pop only but not the Spurs organization. Even Steve Jackson never says anything bad about pop and Duncan at all and only praises them but he don’t like how the gm and owner act behind the scenes . Just like kawhi, demar, dj, etc. Tbh even tony Parker is hated by all of em dj kawhi jack most of his teammates all said bad things about him as a teammate and you can tell tbh if you legit having sex with your teammate wife while your wife is actually bad asf man you legit don’t give af bout no one but yourself. Even Manu said in a documentary it took him a long time to actually like tony . Patty mills himself said tony wasn’t the leader he just played and always wanted to score more and not pass but pop wouldn’t allow that system. Man if kawhi hates you then your definitely the problem cuz kawhi hated no one. Even pop wanted to trade tony even after the chips after the scandal cuz it literally made every teammate not fuck with tony at all but that contract was too big to trade him and they wouldn’t get the same value back. After that incident it killed the locker room even when they won tony was excluded from the team and it took new role players for that to go away literally a whole new team. Which is why you saw tony leave but not manu and Duncan they had a level of respect for him that they didn’t have for Parker heck they payed both of em what they weren’t going to get in the market their last few years even when they were way out of their prime because the organization loved them but they didn’t want to pay tony anything and tony got mad and left even tho he literally wasn’t the same player at all and you saw that in hornets without Duncan and pop he was a generic pg. tony got lucky taht he landed with manu and Duncan who would’ve been great anywhere else tony wouldn’t have been great anywhere else. It legit took years for pop to rebuild him from the ground up and actually teach him how to pass and speak English and play basketball the right way no other team would’ve done that back in the day they would’ve saw what he was and wouldn’t do much and he would just be another pg in the league
*3:14** - "But the Spurs went on to win 2 more championships,while he was punching fans in the face in the MALACE AT THE PALACE"* 💀💀💀💀💀
I almost lost it when he said that 😂😂
Facts !
Guess he didn't watch the documentary. Dude sounds like Tucker Carlson. The fans clearly started it. Dude acts like Jack just walked up there and punched a fan for no reason. Some of those Detroit fans were WAY out of order.
If all these players like kawhi dejounte Stephen Jackson and him cheating with his teammates wife what if it is tony and you can’t see that because you liked his game
I love how you back up my Spurs! Dejounte did a lot for the spurs, but come on! Dejounte didn't step up when his name was called last year.
The only thing I didn't like was that he thought he would get mentored
There's competition in every sports team so what he said was nothing out of the ordinary
He is probably just too young to see the big picture
If Trae Young ended up leaving it would be so crazy Murray ended up being the franchise player for the hawks
love your vids im always refreshing your page thank you for doing this for hoop fans
He also mentioned the incident with Paolo in that “All the Smoke” interview, and explains the situation. Why cut that out, he loves Paolo and expected the season he’s having.
Exactly. He’s painting him as a menace or something when I’m the summer league they were just playing hardcore street ball
He also didn't mention the fact that the reason why Dejounte Murray showed out against Paolo in that game because Paolo was talking trash and bragging about being drafted number 1. Long story short Murray and Paolo still cool with each other just tough love.
I was at that game, it was in Tacoma. Paolo and his boys were talking big shit. And no the hometown crowd wasn’t there to see Paolo. We came to see Dejounte aka baby boy. Baby boy was playing with guys from the city regular hood dudes, Paolo had a duke teammate on his team and still lost a game against him.
I could be wrong but i feel like stephen jackson knew he was never gonna be like a top 75 player so adding those "2 rings" from SA to his resume isnt fixing that. hed rather ball out somewhere else where he can be a number one or two guy and earn a fat payday
Well, if that Malice in the Palace incident doesn't happen, fracturing Indiana's team cohesion and injuries to Reggie, they maybe could have been EC champs and went to the Finals.
Jack was still 4th best player on Indiana, behind Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest and Reggie Miller. But he was still a starter. In SA, Kawhi would be starting SG. Coming off the bench is a blow to dudes' egos. We saw that with Russ in LA, earlier this year. Indiana played a higher scoring, jump shot, in & out oriented offense.
Ay i like the epic music choice whats the song also goood video 🙏
Thanks Casey! Coach Don Nelson - was once a mentor to Coach Pops. So both coaches had a weird, old school policy towards how they treated (or mis-treated) their rookies. Do you ever hear about how the Run TMC Warriors - who only needed a big man to become a dominant NBA team - and when they finally get their big man in Chris Weber - Don Nelson mis-treats Weber so badly that Chris demands a trade after only his first season? And now you mention this with Dejounte Murray. And things weren't alright with top young player Kawhi Leonard. Tough love coaching... It's not inconsequential - young NBA players of today are so pampered and catered to that this old school strategy of coaching may be obsolete.
True Coach Pop is one of those coaches plus the Spurs are non drama team that deals with the issues behind close doors
Players are nothing but spoiled brats nowadays. Tough coaches are obsolete for sure.
Pander to players... because they're pandered to??
FUCK EM!!!
Murray done fuck all and was the 29th pick.
EARN what you want!!!
But NO, go on this single monma energy podcast and trash your "ex"...
Painting Murray as a bad person is wrong. Recommend anyone to go watch the full interview before making a judgement
yo as a new nba fan, these videos are gold. thank you man
@qilz.he can give his own thoughts and interpretations on his channel who r u to say he can’t
Appreciate your take on things. You've earned a new subscriber. Well done!
DJ is just immature. He said the Spurs kinda held him back and he couldn't grow as a player. He literally became the player he is today because of the Spurs. I can't wait what he has to say about the Hawks once he leaves.
i'm here for transition education. smooth bro
You showed multiple clips of the interview but proceeded to lie about the Paolo incident? That was talked about in the interview but yet you go on to say “Dejounte was mad bc the fans showed up for Paolo and not him” that’s a lie lol.
Parker literally twice the player jack was analytically speaking but he did help himself to his bestfriends wife so there is some merrit to whats being said.
Jack not taking about his about ability he’s talking about him as a person
there’s nothing wrong with it.. maybe brett should’ve controlled his woman 🤷🏿♂️
@@penguinsinorbit2034you don’t control nobody that ain’t ur kids, and that’s only partially. That’s not your job people make choices n u respond to it. Only person you can truly 100% control is yourself
@@penguinsinorbit2034mans risked way too much for a so called buddies wife it fucks wit team chemistry cause everybody in that locker room looking at you differently
@@penguinsinorbit2034the hell is wrong wit u 😂😂
Love your content, but I hate how you force a link between each video and the one you recommend at the end. I don't see the point of that.
I'm only in the comments section to check if anyone else noticed that Dejounte Murray looks EXACTLY like Chris Brown???
I think you gotta look more into the interview. Dejounte wasnt mad at all. Even with Paolo.
one can act one way and talk another
That’s what dj wants you to think…
He is talking shit so why he mad
Nah I saw that game he was heated for no reason tryna punk the rookie nd bully him infront of the crowd ......one thing is to talk shyt in a game another is try a be a bully to a dam rookie
I'm sorry, but his gang life as you described it oh and the fact that there was a comment calling you out for exactly that and then it magically disappeared almost a minute after it was posted.
It's at the very top on the comments dude. Wtf. Get the tin hat off
I don't like the way you approached this video. It comes across as a clear bias against anyone that has anything bad to say about the Spurs, as if they are above criticism. And attacking their character because they have personal experiences that back up their claims is unbecoming. Notice how you would gloss over Tony Parker's ego to bash Dejounte for pointing it out and earning his spot. And you purposely left out Kawhi's testimonies because it doesn't fit the narrative of leaving the Spurs and falling into obscurity.
Stephen Jackson is 100% right: you do NOT try to bully a player for another's benefit. That's distasteful af.
I agree with Jack and DJ on Tony. Tony didn’t want to give up that starting spot, and also called out Kawhi. No matter what if the injury was legit, just back your teammates
I think they knew something before we did kawhi doesn't seem interesting in winning just look at the clippers that team was supposed to win a ring by now but kawhi it's the less played most played player so you gotta love him for that . 😂
This the same Kawhi currently paid to barely play????
Kawhi doesn't seem to be interested in winning?
That statement does not seem sensible in view of the fact that Kawhi is THE WINNIGGEST player in the whole history of the NBA...
He won more games, in winning percentage, than Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Magic and everyone else??
@@kepenekli Riding Tim Duncan's coat tails.
Joined a perennial 50win TOR
Barely plated in LAC
Meanwhile MJ has SIX rings...
Love you man I appreciate the quality content
I love your content and can’t wait to watch the video.
You have to be built different to be a true Spurs... you have to think of the team and what coach Pop wants... keep you head down and follow...
spurs is a very sheep mentality. but not everyone can be a sheep and just follow. some people want to lead.
That's systematic thinking, nowadays no so much. The players run the league now
@@johnmarkson1990ur making it sound like an insult whereas their system translated to winning basketball, so what’s ur point
@@johnmarkson1990
Embarrassing Paulo is so... independent thinking??
@@johnmarkson1990 it’s not about being a follower or a sheep it’s about putting your ego and all personal accolades
To the side for the sake of the team. DJ is a immature narcissist so of course he wasn’t gonna last here
Are NBA players not allowed to dislike the former teams they on?
Dejounte said the fans were talking to him “sideways” and started talking some “street” sh*t. That’s when he went off. Unfortunately, Paolo had to take the brunt of it…
There's a rumor about Tony Parker being more selfish in the 2013 Finals against the Heat. That he focused on his stats more than winning a chip
i saw the interview Dejounte is not hating more like talking about his experience and how he appreciated his time in the spurs.
Watching the whole interview, DeJounte isn’t bitter or hating. He actually showed a lot of appreciation for the Spurs and their organization. The issue was that he didn’t understand why the things were the way they were in the organization as a rookie
I love how these podcasts give these old ass role players a chance to shine and act like they were something when they ere in the league.
You mean like Draymond "Triple Single" Green and JJ Redick? You expect an All-Star player past or present to have a podcast? Sometimes, role players were still respected in the league and have charismatic personalities. I dont recall Jack or Matt claiming they were All Stars, but they had long careers, are respected by many players and made their money.
Top ex-players work for ESPN or FOX, not podcasts (Shaq, Barkley, D Wade, Reggie, C Webb). Lebron's HBO show "The Shop" is the closest you'll see to that.
Steven Jackson till this day doesn't understand that's the San Antonio Spurs keep and develop players that are over themselves And want to be coached and improve and get better. What did Kawhi say after he won his championship with the Spurs he told pop "thank you for pushing me" every great player in the NBA had to be pushed in order to improve and accept lesser roles to improve the team. Some players don't like it and some players trust the system. I'm sure Russell Westbrook wasn't happy when they told him he wasn't starting but look at him now he's coming off the bench and he's contributing.
you have the best Segway's into another video i have ever seen
the way he making Murray,jackson,and the interview seem was wild like they was being evil when that wasnt the case
Best take yet from this Channel. You just got one more sub👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
all he said was he was selfish....which he was.....sleeping with a teammates wife!
I don't mind DJ and Stack talking shit on TP. Tony Parker slept with his teammate's wife, refuses to mentor a young guy if they threaten his position and accuses them of faking the seriousness of an injury to encourage them to lace up. Sounds like a pretty consistently bad 'teammate' tbh. Would be hard to be on those Spurs teams with your starting point doing this kind of shit behind the scenes.
Another Banger A.M. Hoops🔥
A.m how do you know what’s going on behind the scenes
He used to live and work in San Antonio and worked closely with the Spurs organization for many years
@@jonathanwstx I bet he did I live in Texas does that mean I work there too
Tony Parker is a menace. 😂😂😂
A Frenchie most ppl forgot he banged Brent berry wife 😂😂😂 gotta love parker
I just watched 5 straight videos. Good job Casey!
Love your content A.M, congratulations on your new baby, and I hope all is going well for you and your family!
great vid as always 🔥
This is actually a really good video.
nah, this is gossipy and weird. Dude has praised Pop and the Spurs multiple times and he was even correct about their system not being able to sustain itself, and look at the Spurs now. They really don't have any future and are going to have to rely on lucky picks to get great players again.
Thanks for the background info about Dejounte. Only thing i knew before your video was his childish behavior towards Paolo Banchero in a pre season game. I couldn't judge him by his performance after that. But now, knowing about his past and that he nursed his grandmother, I have respect for him.
They would have been fine if they traded parker. It would have meant more minutes from manu.
You didn’t fully do your research on DJ. He went hard at Paolo because everyone in Paolos camp was talking shit that he wasn’t gonna do nothing. He proved them wrong
First time on this channel, amazing endings to the videos. He makes you want to watch another one of his videos lol
Good. Someone called DJ out on him being a bitter player. Why can't he still get over the Spurs when he's already with the Hawks where he claims he is "free and wanted"? He's whining like a guy who got dumped by a hot girl whom he thought would never dump him cuz he thinks he's too hot. He knew he f#ck*d something up and blaming the Spurs and not be accountable for his side. Spurs still living in his head rent-free and he can't move on.
Lol Chuck is the man! I love Duncan and all those spurs players but I never liked Pop (way to smug)
I am not surprised that a Spurs fan is defending any criticisms toward the Spurs.
Pop and his backwards way of running the organization is what's keeping this team down.
WHAAAAT ? Someone you said is from a family of gang members and was dealing with it growing up, lost his sister to her bf shooting her dead...HAS ANGER DEEP DOWN INSIDE?
It's literally in the family to have anger issues, that's what gangs are!
Is it normal to shoot up the block on occasion? Beef to the death with the neighboring family and fight with other whole parts of the city? Nah, that's what gangs do
I thought he was mad at banchero bc he said youngboy wasn’t better than someone
Why did it turn into a Jackson/Parker and crime video? Did you watch the interview or you just needed content ?
To be honest I don’t think u watched the interview in full because he did say he eventually understood what they were doing so your kind of making this video one sided and not talking the other…
I respect your viewpoints and your videos but this one is misleading tho in my opinion…
Dude looks like Chris brown..
😂
In the NBA or any professional sport team it is hard to because a lot of people are watching you. It is ok to fight and stand firm if someone coming after your family but do it the right way not the wrong way. No one is perfect but you can always be better than yesterday.
Man I’d encourage you to watch more episodes of all the smoke and see what a positive spin Jack has on a lot of these interviews that shed light on what goes on behind the scenes in the nba that the media doesn’t cover. Show Jack some love and don’t put a negative spin on Murray. Watch the whole interview. He’s appreciative of where he is today
1:12 No one "has to" like you. You are a rookie in the league, Spurs wanted to take time with your development because you did have character issues (thus many other teams passed on you even though you probably deserved to be drafted a bit higher). Spurs put you to G-League to help with your development and helped you learn team play, defense and get you to be familiar with playing in the league.
2:10 Tony Parker didn't "have to" mentor you. Why do you think you deserve to be mentored automatically by a future HOF? "He would've mentored you like he should have"? Privilege much?
Exactly 💯
Ofc the older guys are mentoring the younger ones. It’s not like they were contenders when Dejountae was starting
character issues? man give people the benefit of the doubt if you paying for someone to represent your organization. stop with all the “thug” shit
Ofc Pop did these things to put Murray in a position to succeed in the league and to become a force on defense
B-b-but players and pandered to, so must be pandered to
Nah this guy doesn’t know how good stackjack was on GSW and helped us when he played small ball 4 and guarded Dirk and we beat the 1 seed as an 8th seed..
“The spurs set his career up how does he not see that” bro was treated like garbage and you want him to look at the bright side of being treated like garbage?
It's not a good idea for a current player to speak ill of an NBA team. The owners of the NBA team can black ball him. They look out for each other just like they all blackballed Ime Udoka.
Murray did Paolo so dirty lol
Yes 😂
You are doing the same thing that Andrew Malika did to the new Celtics' coach, but you tried to do it nicely
Hurt people hurt people is no excuse to hurt people.
No but it's a fact
You gotta appreciate and give credit where it matters, I think A M Hoops is one sided, just because dejounte panned out pretty good we can't credit Spurs organization for toxicity, they just waived a 1st round pick; as the saying goes "NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE"; props to dejounte for doing good finally feels like he is wanted
I agree of what you all said Casey, its his upbringing and character that build him of what he's acting now. Of all the podcasters interviewed him its nonsense because Stephen Jackson hates the Spurs coz Pop chooses Tony and Manu over him which came as the right decision to do, thats why Stephen loves to interview a player to hate Spurs. He hates because the Spurs is successful by choosing Manu and Toni over him.
If Dejounte was drafted by another team he would not be a player hed become now. He was a turn over machine as a rookie with defensive potenitial and he's shot is inaccurate but he's athletic and he also said that he loves Pop because he trait as a father to him. His game would not be like that if the Spurs doesnt patiently develop him. He was injured and still the Spurs still help him because of his background and want him to succeed. His silly now because he expects the Spurs will make him a number 1 option and he wants the team to build around him when Derozan is gone but the Spurs traded him instead. Honestly if he's not drafted by the Spurs he'd be gone now in the NBA.
So true
No vid on the Lakers making a trade for Rui (like the Lakers are gonna do anything anyways 😂)? Or trade ideas for the deadline?
He isn’t hating. He’s right.
He bathed his grandma so he could get to the NBA? What? 😂
Whenever someone says I’m not a psychologist but…. 😅😅also just assuming that’s why he was hating on banchero, you could go watch the video where he explains what happened in that game, you haven’t seen it?
0:40 Dare you to ask Dennis Rodman.
crazy you still havent talked about the nuggets
Dejounte forgetting that it was the Spurs who got him into that all star game
I get his frustrated but man needs help expressing his feelings 💯
So you saying "the way they treated him helped him! how does he not see that..." I will tell you right now as a manager over a department of 20, Tim Duncan as the *leader* on that team not speaking to someone and giving him an opportunity to feel a part of and welcomed indeed does NOT help someone.
Murray should be kissing the spurs ass for drafting him, he would've been out of the league if he was drafted by Detroit
Make a video about how Chris Herrin was a drug addict and how it ruined his NBA career
Make a video about Larry Bird’s Alcoholic father who committed su!cide
Jack acts like he walked so the spurs big 3 could run.
Spurs literally talked down to TD even when he was a star. Dejounte def wasn’t going to get star treatment. Dejounte may have left the gang, but he still acts all gangsta. It’s boring and tedious and we’ve all heard it before.
Why is Murray doing this
Chuck wasn't joking..
i jus wanna say im NOT surprised on your opinion bout this. very black and white, not talking race btw
Let's not forget the guy that just joined the lakers From san antonio said the same thing ...where there is smoke there is fire
Attributing the bulk his defensive prowess to the spurs is kinda nasty ngl
I usually like your content but this video was hard to watch. You are dehumanizing the players that didn’t fit in with the system, the last three all stars Dejounte, Damar, and Kawhi express how they was unhappy in that system. There has to be problem in San Antonio