I think the only reason for them still hanging on to the 737 MAX order is the extremely long lead time on the A320 family. If problems at Boeing don't stop and they find a way to get A320 family planes quickly enough, this order will be canceled...
Dont forget Chinas C919, now making 100 aircraft for Chinas Airlines. It will make a very strong competitor against the 737 max (it doesn't fall out of the sky) If other airlines in the West cancel their 737max models, they have somewhere else to buy.
@@johnchristmas7522 with the geopolitical climate between the US and China being what it is, I don't see any US carrier buying a Chinese aircraft in the near future. Planes from Europe may be "from the wrong people" on the economical side, but politically there aren't the tensions as there are with China. However, for airlines from other parts of the world it is very true...
Just think the clowns have been in charge over there for almost thirty years. Think about how many other stupid problems that haven't surfaced yet, or become apparent.
The sudden diving was from the captain's seat being motored into the controls, probably with the help of his meal tray, when a flight attendant inadvertently pressed a switch on the back. But the poor shielding/retention is still on Boeing.
Side note- Boeing sued Bombardier about the C-Series order, right after Delta ordered the C-Series. What better way than to send your customer into the arms of your competitor.
Yep this was obviously a big one. Don’t know how he forgot this one. It was a huge order too. And Boeing lobbied against that deal, successfully too, running the deal with Delta and Bombardier. Till Airbus came along and with one single signature got a free plane and slapped that double barreled shotgun Boeing was aiming. Effectively making Boeing shooting themselves on both feet
The real reason was when Boeing went scorched earth on Delta for ordering the C-Series. Boeing lobbied to get a 200% tariff put on the C-Series. That burned some bridges and Airbus saved the day.
Prior to the 2008 merger with NorthWest, Delta was flying exclusively Boeing and MD planes. The merger was the trigger point and started to turn the tide towards Airbus. Delta is now roughly 50/50 Airbus/Boeing today (2024).
That's essentially true. Delta had their first taste of Airbus when they picked the carcass of PanAm and acquired the A-310s. They seemed happy with them.
Delta's takeover of NorthWest was much more fortuitous than McDonnell Douglas' reverse takeover of Boeing from bankruptcy. Why would you let a board (and ideology) that had already destroyed one major air frame manufacturer, infest and destroy your own?
Expensive project to train or hire pilots, maintenance staff, spares, IT systems etc. won’t be a big issue with carriers who have a good mix of both. But carriers like United who are Boeing heavy will be big losers in the immediate future
Im an American and what has happened to Boeing has been decades in the making. They went from an engineering company making excellent products to being bought by wallstreet, in the 90's and its taken this long for executive management to GUT all the QC in production for short term gains posted to wallstreet. Ive heard from many engineers it takes 7-12 years for the BS rolling off the line to present itself to the public which is spot on. We can expect a lot more Boeing accidents in the future. And i have two weekends ahead of me flying 737s :(
Delta already has a very large A320 Family fleet of planes, and has 103 A321neo planes on order. Delta may cancel the 737-10 order and replace it all with an additional 100 A321neo planes.
@@dennis12dec Delta will likely get their A321neo planes--if they cancel the 737-10 order and order 100 A321neo's--from a mix of deliveries from Mobile, AL and Toulouse assembly lines (Airbus recently converted the former A380 assembly line to build the A320 Family planes).
@@dennis12decUh-oh. You know, once of a day I'd have bought a US built product in preference to many others, still would with some items, because they're often well made and if anything, overbuilt. The US makes some fine construction tools, for example, when the European market for hand-tools has all too often gone for cheap and lousy, but I don't want to fly on any US-built aircraft- or buy anything that needs an educated workforce to build it that's made in a state like Alabama or similar, with their lousy education levels.
@@johnchristmas7522 That isn’t the issue. The 737-10 has the range to fly transcon USA routes. I think Delta wants a plane that doesn’t fall apart in revenue service.
Delta basically started the move from Boeing after they completed the merger with Northwest. After that they have solely ordered from Airbus (apart from the Bombardier C Series order in 2017, and the recent Boeing 737 MAX 10 order)
You left out one very important reason for Delta and other airlines making the switch to Airbus. That is the flying public's confidence in Boeing. With so many incidents happening with Boeing aircraft in the news passengers are scared to fly on any Boeing aircraft. I for one will not get on a Max plane or any Boeing plane. I now choose my flights according on which airline is flying an Airbus. Plane and simple.
Wrong. Delta has been pursuing Airbus purchases for at least 5 years. That predates the Max crashes and all the other recent issues that sway public opinion. THey may have seen something they didn't like in the Boeing management, but there was no public dislike of Boeing planes when they started moving toward Airbus.
I've worked with Boeing flight test and I've seen things that would shock the public, more airlines should go Airbus. Boeing has completely lost their way in manufacturing quality aircraft
@@thecomedypilot5894Same answer to you as watchtellyinuk: I don't believe they have had a scathing report on safety from the aircraft safety authority - unless you have evidence otherwise.
What’s interesting is United’s decision to lease some Airbus planes in the wake of Boeing’s issues. If this trend continues, Boeing will be hard pressed to win the business back.
I’ve been flying Delta whenever possible for years. Through the years I have had the same flights on Boeing and equivalent Airbus and always thought the Airbus flights were better. More comfortable, less noise, maybe even faster. These days with so many Boeing issues I won’t get on a flight which is a Boeing. They are the Chrysler of aircraft.
About to be a Delta regular, I absolutely love the comfort of Airbus planes. Even Economy seats are usually spacious. I have had experiences with 737s where I felt curled up like a banana on a window seat. Hopefuly Airbus keep the quality levels up. Corporate Greed should never creep into quality assurance.
I wouldn't write off the A330neo just yet either. The original A330 had a slow start, but I think we will see an uptick in A330neo orders over the coming years as it's actually a fantastic machine and airbus are continually looking at ways to make it even better. It's also a good hybrid of a high capacity short/mid haul aircraft with the range to do some decent long haul routes as well ... perfect for coast to coast and Trans Atlantic operations ...
Delta is my preferred domestic carrier. I will not fly any carrier that has Boeing Max series. Honestly going to Airbus is a smart decision. Boeing is not doing right by the flying public and airlines.
Doesn't the airline understand that safety is a major concern for travelers? Planes coming apart in the air do not invoke confidence in the traveler! Will this practice be remedied or will the practice continue? If it does what will customers decide?
Nothing hits harder than customer who close their wallets. I, when searching for flights, filter out the MAX series. I may add the 787 to that list. It would be very sad if COMAC would have superior safety record to Boeing.
@@liordagan9342Better add the 787. It's the first design that was developed with funds being cut left and right. As it is said, an aircraft type usually takes a decade to show all of the issues it has.
@@jantjarks7946 As stated, the 787 is on the shortlist... Being an Israeli, and flying with El-Al, Boeing was all I knew until my late twenties. I remember when the 777 came out, and it didn't have the battery smoke issues of the 787. It was safer than what it had replaced, just as it should.
@@jantjarks7946I’d say it’s flown long enough that I’d only blacklist particular airlines which I’m no longer comfortable to do with in the case of the MAX.
I'm a frequent flier and want to stay that way. So I told my travel agency only to book my flights on Airbus aircraft, not always possible because of flight changes. If more travellers did this then the likes of United would realise what big mistake they made. Sadly you cant just say its the 737 because you have the same management ethos across all models. 777x MAX? Dread to think. One day, the shareholders will realise, it will then get really serious very quickly.
I live in Atlanta, I was a huge Boeing fan, not anymore. I still love the 777 and the iconic 747. I was at first bummed out that Delta was heavily Airbus, after the Max fiasco no more. I am a reluctant airbus fan. I still love the yoke and how each pilot can see/feel the movement but Airbus is planning the same for hit side stick. I am glad Delta is going Airbus. I will NOT fly on the Max unless it’s a last minute switch or I have no “choice” I dont trust that airplane or Boeing. Glad Delta is going Airbus.
Not only the Max,Dreamliners are now suspect as well and under investigation after a pilot momentarily lost control of the plane last week due to an instrument blackout causing the plane to plunge suddenly before the power came back on but not before several passengers were thrown against the ceiling causing serious injuries to a few of them.
In a few weeks I will be on long flights from the US west coast to SE Asia. The first leg is on a Boeing 777 300 ER (EVA Airlines), the second leg on an Airbus A350-900 (Singapore Airlines).....several hours on each in the same day. I've been on Boeings many, many times but this will be my first long haul on an Airbus. Looking forward to comparing the two.
@@watchtellyinuk The W aka 777 is a great airplane. Any Boeing aircraft produced prior to the year 2000 still has Boeing quality. I initially thought the max was very safe, considering how many analysts and engineers worked on fixing the MCAS issue but it's now apparent that Boeing has much deeper rooted issues. It's unfortunate that the company went this direction and there are reasons why; mainly MD. I do hope the best for Boeing but I have to admit to feeling safer on an Airbus now days.
Its disturbing how dark Boeing has become the last few years. And unimaginably getting worse. Its sad because competition drives innovations but as someone who loves aviation, Boeing isn't looking like the future. So many upgraded airplane types with Airbus while boeing is just sitting on the max that has so many issues years later. And the 777x that has been doing test flights for what seems like years. I want safe planes. And I cannot say boeing makes safe planes at this point in time. I cannot say Boeing as a company isn't cutting safety corners. Too much has come out. I am team Airbus now.
I fly a lot and was an admirer of Boeing until the past 10 years. I now feel much more comfortable flying on an Airbus. When I see A321 and not 737, I feel better. Boeing chose the evolve from a company with a mission of having quality and engineering as their strategic approach to one that was usurped with return to shareholders underpins why I feel better flying Airbus
I know these things can’t happen overnight, but if I were Airbus I would be making it a big priority to get another A321 production up and running right now. The mess Boeing is in can be good for Airbus, but only if they can seize the opportunity. Now, I’m not really knowledgeable in the aircraft order sector, but perhaps Delta could get a deal for earlier delivery dates if they made some other agreements. Namely, if DL agreed to commit to order A330-800s to replace their 763s, that could be enticing for Airbus given the A330-800 is really not selling well right now. Delta could get a good deal on the plane, and a similar capacity replacement for the 763s.
Airbus are FULLY aware, the major problem is the fact that suppliers are still struggling after the pandemic. Then there's the problem of P&W Engines. Yes things are turning slowly around but it takes time. Speed is not the answer SAFETY is as Boeing are finding out. Training men and women also takes time. It has taken Airbus decades of hard work and commitment to break into the biased American Market, they will not want to put that in danger with a rushed decision
I have flown to China on Delta three times and always on an Airbus 330. They inherited Airbus planes from NWA and they have continued a relationship with Airbus.
Delta are just realizing how good the airbus products really are. After operating the A350-900, it was only a matter of time before they ordered the -1000. Also, sometimes discounts dont influence which aircraft type to purchase. Meaning, you can save a lot buying a heavy fuel guzzler and end up losing in the long run, or pay a bit more but win in the long term with fuel savings and efficiency. As can be seen now with the a320 vs Max family. The max was heavily discounted, but airbus sold them out, smart CEO's chose the Airbus, and the ones who go for discounts went the Max way, and are now having to deal with all the max drama. 🤷🏾♂️✈️
Hi there DJ if you are in business you need to have a production that is reliable each day can't have an airplane falling out of the sky or blowing of door's and then trying to cover up the messy behavior just can't work
Good video. I think another factor that will impact Delta's decision to purchase more Airbus planes over Boeing is recent events. Not necessarily by the airline itself making the decision but by the decisions of their travelers. I recently booked a flight on a Delta Airbus A320 because it's an Airbus plane. Other companies wanted me to fly on a 737 Max to my destination but due to my lack of trust in the 737 Max I went with Delta's A320 option. Maybe I'm the only one but I'd like to have some faith in the plane I fly on and I hope that Airlines like Delta will notice that if enough other people do this too.
So do Airbus ... the media's just not covering it cause it's so less dramatic. I loathe flying but I am taking a United Boeing transatlantic next week. It's getting to the airport that concerns me.
I don't for a second think Delta expects to have any MAX-10s flying for them. The reason is that this plane has not even been certified yet and will most likely see huge delays. I think this was more a move to keep on good terms with Boeing. Not only that, but Delta would be way down the list of deliveries of the MAX-10 when they start. This was just a symbolic order at best.
When the BOD left the factory Boeing was on the road to trouble. When the BOD kept lying I was finished. I will never get on 737 Max ever. I tell the airline no Boeings when booking flights.
fr, it’s boring js seeing southwest planes being all 737’s they were looking at the a220 one time but went with the max 7, hopefully they do end up switching the max 7 with the a220-100
not to its entirety no but almost (and considering its base wasn't even meant to that's damn hell impressive) and boeing doesn't have anything even coming anywhere near it
It's already done in France.... Between provincial french cities (Lyon, Marseilles, Nice, Toulouse) and french Canada (Montréal). A321 neo is used......
If all the airlines in the world put a pause on Boeing aircraft for a year or so , this might be the only way they could have time to get their house in order. Their stock price could fall to the bottom and Boeing would have to restructure… hopefully back to the past practice of been innovative company
It’s all down to cost; Delta picked up the a220 at ridiculously low prices. Airbus wanted to get into the US market and definitely offered them to Delta at something like $15 million/aircraft. The 787 vs A330NEO, the 787 costs less, has a slightly shorter range, and weighs less. They don’t quite compete with each other for that reason and the distance between them is quite stark. The A330NEOs that Delta picked up were likely also offered at a steep discount to their list price, probably close to $115 million. Delta had ordered a small taking of the A350s, but then they loved them so much that they took stakes in LATAM in order to secure their A350s. Delta retired its 777 fleet some years ago due to a comparative lack of fuel efficiency and a high empty operating weight vs the a350. Problem for Airbus is that their delivery schedule is full on the a320 family through the 2030s so everyone will have to wait and suffer with Boeing
Thank God! I fly Delta frequently and I will never step into a 737 Max 9 or any other Boeing aircraft they have. Thank goodness for Airbus, at least they don't have horrible wrecks and doors flying off. Although they should be nervous since some of their wings and midsections are produced at Spirit. Boeing still is not cooperating with Congress. Spirit is still not cooperating with Congress. I don't know what to say, Boeing was a great company, but now it's just a former shell of what it used to be. Oh, I forgot to mention Boeing's murder squad, killing whistleblowers.
@Chris_1024_ I fly the bus. Great airplane. But the XLR will be like the NEO and all other 321 variants. Severely underpowered. The 75 could have full gas, full load of pax, and still depart hot, heavy, and high with performance to spare. The XLR already lost some of its range losing one of its fuel tanks. It won’t come close to the performance or cargo capacity the 752 had.
I love the A350 That Plane is a “DREAM” Pun intended… This just ain’t the same Boeing anymore they died when they Merged with McDonnell Douglas in the 90’s. Hoping Southwest goes the Airbus route I can see some A320 NEO’s or the A220 in there fleet!
It’s just a smart business move to leave Boeing behind. The 737 is my favorite airliner and to see what Boeing has done to it is disgusting. Ruined the reputation of a legend.
Trouble is, its airframe is about 40 years out of date- and that was at least part of the cause of the MAX problems AFAIK, having to compromise on where they put the engines because there simply wasn't the clearance for modern engines led directly and indirectly to other problems.
But still tho,if delays with the Max 10 drag on even longer i think Delta could follow United's suit and probably could drop the order for the Max 10s and instead order more A321neos or even place orders for the A321XLR's, only time will tell 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
good to hear your voice neutrally modulated… those very low modulated intro(s) from some videos sounded quite hilarious (at least for me).. nevertheless, content wise you are always always on point!
These comments about not flying on Boeing aircraft are completely ridiculous. It comes from uneducated and uninformed consumers reading and watching bullshit videos. Delta has always been a huge Boeing customer. They, unlike many airlines, are committed to having a diverse fleet of aircraft and even within those aircraft even diverse engines powering those aircraft. They do that to protect themselves from strikes, parts shortages and other disruptive happenings in the industry. These videos are very misleading. Their mechanics are not unionized and can work on multiple aircraft and engine types and don’t have to worry about one mechanics filing a grievance on another mechanic for actually working and doing their job. You will never see the maintenance issues at Delta that you are seeing at United right now. I have lots of friends that work for Delta as both mechanics and pilots and most of the pilots prefer to fly Boeing aircraft and the mechanics are about 50-50. It’s easy to jump on Boeing right now but if something pops up with Airbus and they start digging, the the pile on with start on them and the same uninformed public will be saying the same thing about not flying on an Airbus. At least on a Boeing aircraft, the pilots are still in control.
During manufacturing all cellphones should be checked in before work and pickup after shift ends. That way engineers and technicians can concentrate on the important stuff.
You can clearly tell by factory images. Airbus plants look more clean and organized than Boeing. There is no way Airbus doesn't produce a better product than Boeing.
I find it interesting the commentator talked of American built aircraft, one must remember Airbus builds in the USA. An increase in buying Airbus could presumably equate to an increase in the US Airbus plant?
For years I basically used Jetblue or Delta whenever I needed to fly. This fantastic news comes only a couple of days after I said to myself I never want ANYTHING to do with boeing ever again 👍👍👍
If it is Boeing, I ain't goin.... rescheduled my flight last week from YVR to YYZ when I realised I would be on a Max. NO way I am flying the Max..or the dreamliner. Guess the last reliable aircraft they made is the 777.
24 Years ago, Boeing set up an Oversight, Corrective-Action & product reliabilty teams to affect a Six-Sigma manufacturing and compliance regimen. In the satellite realm, the 60 Six Sigma leadership team created excellent, reliable and lower-cost products to become a world leader. Today, that same site, has no Six Sigma activity. Product quality is lower, costs are higher, and their best rocket is hugging the ground.
Didn't even mention the front of a wing coming apart in little pieces(Wing fairing) composite leading edge that just started flaking off about a foot wide over a third of the wing. Didn't even come off in one part as it is supposed to be made but like a shattered piece of safety glass pecking off an inch or two at a time.
Simplification is the best from an economic point of view having said that you don't want to reply 100% on one supplier. There's also something to be said for diversification!
Another reason is that Airbus doesn’t murder whistleblowers
And you have proof for a jury that Boeing does? Can you spell libel?
@@watchtellyinukNo. And Yes: L.I.B.E.L.
How much Boeing stocks you have 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂if you didn't sell earlier maybe it's better to sell now before you lose everything
@@melaninbotswana2474 boeing didnt murder him, there is no evidence they did
Yes I agree with that 100 percent Airbus would never have these problems they are safe in building 😊😊😊😊😊
I think the only reason for them still hanging on to the 737 MAX order is the extremely long lead time on the A320 family. If problems at Boeing don't stop and they find a way to get A320 family planes quickly enough, this order will be canceled...
Hopefully the closure and retooling of the A380 factory to A320 Family, it should help their backlog, unless they suddenly want more A380s.
Hopefully Airbus does not make the same mistake Boeing made and they don't compromise quality to fulfill orders and schedule.
@@carlosc2229 absolutely. So far I can't see any signs of that happening, but there was a time when nobody saw coming what's happening at Boeing now.
Dont forget Chinas C919, now making 100 aircraft for Chinas Airlines. It will make a very strong competitor against the 737 max (it doesn't fall out of the sky) If other airlines in the West cancel their 737max models, they have somewhere else to buy.
@@johnchristmas7522 with the geopolitical climate between the US and China being what it is, I don't see any US carrier buying a Chinese aircraft in the near future. Planes from Europe may be "from the wrong people" on the economical side, but politically there aren't the tensions as there are with China.
However, for airlines from other parts of the world it is very true...
Smartest move Delta could ever do, get far away from Boeing.
Wrong. You are just totally wrong.
These armchair pilots are out of control.
I wish I'm in Europe so I can fly only with Airbus planes
@@goxyeagle8446 Airbus and Boeing planes are dominantly found all over the world.
@@thecomedypilot5894 Yes but airlines in US predominantly use Boeing planes while European ones use Airbus
Delta's executive team must be ecstatic right now, with all the Boeing issues, it seems they made the correct choice.
Nikkei Haley, what did you do to Boeing?
All I know is that a350-1000 is gonna look stunning 🤩 in Delta’s livery once they start getting delivered! 👌🏼🙌🏼✈️
I was flying A350, what a powerful engines
A beautiful plane indeed.
You can't change my opinion because I HATE a350-1000
I'm not getting on any Boeng plane where the doors blow off or the plane suddenly dives into the ground. No way.
Me neither. I used to worship Boeing , travelled Sydney to Seattle, to tour Boeing factory. Now I am Airbus
Just think the clowns have been in charge over there for almost thirty years. Think about how many other stupid problems that haven't surfaced yet, or become apparent.
Boeing also murders whistleblowers.
Boeing also mrrders whistleblowers.
The sudden diving was from the captain's seat being motored into the controls, probably with the help of his meal tray, when a flight attendant inadvertently pressed a switch on the back. But the poor shielding/retention is still on Boeing.
Side note- Boeing sued Bombardier about the C-Series order, right after Delta ordered the C-Series. What better way than to send your customer into the arms of your competitor.
Yep this was obviously a big one. Don’t know how he forgot this one. It was a huge order too. And Boeing lobbied against that deal, successfully too, running the deal with Delta and Bombardier. Till Airbus came along and with one single signature got a free plane and slapped that double barreled shotgun Boeing was aiming. Effectively making Boeing shooting themselves on both feet
The real reason was when Boeing went scorched earth on Delta for ordering the C-Series. Boeing lobbied to get a 200% tariff put on the C-Series. That burned some bridges and Airbus saved the day.
Yet it is still a pile of garbage. Pssst…I work on them…they SUCK
@@justinglass9340 LoL. Get lost troll!!!!
If it's a Boeing,I ain't going.
Not funny any more. Grow up.
@phantagirlable they are trying to be funny, or they just have no life, and probably won't fly on any plane
@@watchtellyinuk Hello salty Boeing-fanboy!
You know, the original phrase was "If it's *not* Boeing, I ain't going."
@@thecomedypilot5894Also America was great back in time
Corprate greed over quality and safety is catching up with boeing.
Was about to comment just that. Unfortunately it's true
Best post on here.
Prior to the 2008 merger with NorthWest, Delta was flying exclusively Boeing and MD planes. The merger was the trigger point and started to turn the tide towards Airbus. Delta is now roughly 50/50 Airbus/Boeing today (2024).
That's essentially true. Delta had their first taste of Airbus when they picked the carcass of PanAm and acquired the A-310s. They seemed happy with them.
Delta's takeover of NorthWest was much more fortuitous than McDonnell Douglas' reverse takeover of Boeing from bankruptcy. Why would you let a board (and ideology) that had already destroyed one major air frame manufacturer, infest and destroy your own?
Today already Delta. Tomorrow maybe United Airlines...
United is distracted by diversity.
@@dougwolfe6125 to be fair, so is Delta (but certainly not to the extent UAL is with their "DEI is our top priority" drag CEO).
Thanks, had no idea Delta has gotten involved in DEI. @@TheTransporter007
Hopefully Southwest will follow.
@@kerkcason7318I don't see that happening. It's like Ryanair, they would fail if they switched palnes
The question is not why switch. The question is, why not?
Expensive project to train or hire pilots, maintenance staff, spares, IT systems etc. won’t be a big issue with carriers who have a good mix of both. But carriers like United who are Boeing heavy will be big losers in the immediate future
@@spp2000Costs of court proceedings for countless deaths by negligence are far more expensive..and brand destructive
@@user-tj7nb9fu9t No dude, you're wrong.
@@thecomedypilot5894cry
Airbus is stacking, while boeing is slacking!
First time I've heard that damn is rhythms
@Christian27241 👍🏿
No actually, you're wrong.
A fool is made...when you name your kid Wade.
@@RLTtizME I'm your father
Im an American and what has happened to Boeing has been decades in the making. They went from an engineering company making excellent products to being bought by wallstreet, in the 90's and its taken this long for executive management to GUT all the QC in production for short term gains posted to wallstreet. Ive heard from many engineers it takes 7-12 years for the BS rolling off the line to present itself to the public which is spot on. We can expect a lot more Boeing accidents in the future. And i have two weekends ahead of me flying 737s :(
Boeing uses temp workers. That pretty much says everything about their manufacturing these days.
You’re right but also statistically there’s an over 99% chance you’ll be a ok
@@aboutface10299% isn’t that great in aviation. 99% means 1 accident per hour at an airport like Chicago or Atlanta. 👀
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I said 'over 99%' ;)
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Although Boeing is doing everything they can to decrease that percentage.
A lot of people here in the US underestimate Airbus.
Whay are they do that?
Honestly I think most of it is a matter of pride. An American product. Deep inside, they will not accept another manufacturer that is not American.
@@adprie1498they will if they know that they are going to be losing business
@@adprie1498lots of Americans buy Japanese, Korean and European cars.
@@adprie1498 No, you're completely wrong.
Delta already has a very large A320 Family fleet of planes, and has 103 A321neo planes on order. Delta may cancel the 737-10 order and replace it all with an additional 100 A321neo planes.
They will get the A320s from Airbus's Final Assembly Hall in Mobile, Alabama while the A330s and A350s are from Toulouse, France.
@@dennis12dec Delta will likely get their A321neo planes--if they cancel the 737-10 order and order 100 A321neo's--from a mix of deliveries from Mobile, AL and Toulouse assembly lines (Airbus recently converted the former A380 assembly line to build the A320 Family planes).
@@dennis12decUh-oh. You know, once of a day I'd have bought a US built product in preference to many others, still would with some items, because they're often well made and if anything, overbuilt. The US makes some fine construction tools, for example, when the European market for hand-tools has all too often gone for cheap and lousy, but I don't want to fly on any US-built aircraft- or buy anything that needs an educated workforce to build it that's made in a state like Alabama or similar, with their lousy education levels.
Thats very probable seeing that the MAX10 is short on range.
@@johnchristmas7522 That isn’t the issue. The 737-10 has the range to fly transcon USA routes. I think Delta wants a plane that doesn’t fall apart in revenue service.
Delta basically started the move from Boeing after they completed the merger with Northwest. After that they have solely ordered from Airbus (apart from the Bombardier C Series order in 2017, and the recent Boeing 737 MAX 10 order)
Although in 2011 they did order the 737-900ER
Yes, they received over 130 737-900ers plus fly 120 737-800’s lots of 757, 767, 717
Boeing doesn’t make replacements for 757 767 717
There was a time when Delta was a major Douglas customer.
You left out one very important reason for Delta and other airlines making the switch to Airbus. That is the flying public's confidence in Boeing. With so many incidents happening with Boeing aircraft in the news passengers are scared to fly on any Boeing aircraft. I for one will not get on a Max plane or any Boeing plane. I now choose my flights according on which airline is flying an Airbus. Plane and simple.
Same here. My 1 demand will be no boeing when I fly.
Wrong. Delta has been pursuing Airbus purchases for at least 5 years. That predates the Max crashes and all the other recent issues that sway public opinion. THey may have seen something they didn't like in the Boeing management, but there was no public dislike of Boeing planes when they started moving toward Airbus.
@@johngoscinski1995 I guess you are new to this and don't know how long Boeing has been producing shoddy products.
Right, I just booked a flight, two legs each way. Out on A330/A321 and back on A319/A380. I blocked 737s from the search.
I love the A380 @@cageordie
I've worked with Boeing flight test and I've seen things that would shock the public, more airlines should go Airbus. Boeing has completely lost their way in manufacturing quality aircraft
So has Airbus.
@@watchtellyinukI don't believe they have had a scathing report on safety from the aircraft safety authority - unless you have evidence otherwise.
So has Airbus dude. Airbus is literally no different.
@@thecomedypilot5894Same answer to you as watchtellyinuk: I don't believe they have had a scathing report on safety from the aircraft safety authority - unless you have evidence otherwise.
@@thecomedypilot5894How do you know?
What’s interesting is United’s decision to lease some Airbus planes in the wake of Boeing’s issues. If this trend continues, Boeing will be hard pressed to win the business back.
I’ve been flying Delta whenever possible for years. Through the years I have had the same flights on Boeing and equivalent Airbus and always thought the Airbus flights were better. More comfortable, less noise, maybe even faster. These days with so many Boeing issues I won’t get on a flight which is a Boeing. They are the Chrysler of aircraft.
Remember when Delta was mainly Douglas Convair and Lockheed
About to be a Delta regular, I absolutely love the comfort of Airbus planes. Even Economy seats are usually spacious. I have had experiences with 737s where I felt curled up like a banana on a window seat.
Hopefuly Airbus keep the quality levels up. Corporate Greed should never creep into quality assurance.
Lol you nailed that, "curled up like a banana".
I wouldn't write off the A330neo just yet either. The original A330 had a slow start, but I think we will see an uptick in A330neo orders over the coming years as it's actually a fantastic machine and airbus are continually looking at ways to make it even better. It's also a good hybrid of a high capacity short/mid haul aircraft with the range to do some decent long haul routes as well ... perfect for coast to coast and Trans Atlantic operations ...
Airlines like SWA and Ryanair would be prudent to start diversifying their fleets now, no matter how painful.
First of all...how are your eyes? Doing well we hope. Secondly...they rarely take advice from anonymous tools on YT comments. Sorry little buddy.
I love flying delta specifically because they are more airbus focused. I hope the A320 backlog gets filled quick enough for them to cancel the 737max.
Delta is my preferred domestic carrier. I will not fly any carrier that has Boeing Max series. Honestly going to Airbus is a smart decision. Boeing is not doing right by the flying public and airlines.
So what will you do when Delta eventually gets its 737 MAX 10s,
Assuming Boeing ever gets the Max certified 😂
@@ryanthomas887 that's a matter of when and not if
@@mrAhollandjr change carriers.
@@BrooklynBound4 Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant and JetBlue are remaining options opportunities. But I heard Allegiant is getting MAX aircraft too
Doesn't the airline understand that safety is a major concern for travelers? Planes coming apart in the air do not invoke confidence in the traveler!
Will this practice be remedied or will the practice continue? If it does what will customers decide?
Nothing hits harder than customer who close their wallets. I, when searching for flights, filter out the MAX series. I may add the 787 to that list. It would be very sad if COMAC would have superior safety record to Boeing.
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It might be sad, but it would be good to know.
@@liordagan9342Better add the 787. It's the first design that was developed with funds being cut left and right.
As it is said, an aircraft type usually takes a decade to show all of the issues it has.
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As stated, the 787 is on the shortlist...
Being an Israeli, and flying with El-Al, Boeing was all I knew until my late twenties. I remember when the 777 came out, and it didn't have the battery smoke issues of the 787. It was safer than what it had replaced, just as it should.
@@jantjarks7946I’d say it’s flown long enough that I’d only blacklist particular airlines which I’m no longer comfortable to do with in the case of the MAX.
coz they received lots of Airbus pilot when merge with NW and they are happy with Airbus A330s.
I'm a frequent flier and want to stay that way. So I told my travel agency only to book my flights on Airbus aircraft, not always possible because of flight changes. If more travellers did this then the likes of United would realise what big mistake they made. Sadly you cant just say its the 737 because you have the same management ethos across all models. 777x MAX? Dread to think. One day, the shareholders will realise, it will then get really serious very quickly.
I live in Atlanta, I was a huge Boeing fan, not anymore. I still love the 777 and the iconic 747. I was at first bummed out that Delta was heavily Airbus, after the Max fiasco no more. I am a reluctant airbus fan. I still love the yoke and how each pilot can see/feel the movement but Airbus is planning the same for hit side stick. I am glad Delta is going Airbus. I will NOT fly on the Max unless it’s a last minute switch or I have no “choice” I dont trust that airplane or Boeing. Glad Delta is going Airbus.
Not only the Max,Dreamliners are now suspect as well and under investigation after a pilot momentarily lost control of the plane last week due to an instrument blackout causing the plane to plunge suddenly before the power came back on but not before several passengers were thrown against the ceiling causing serious injuries to a few of them.
@@eyeofthetiger6002What about the 777x?
In a few weeks I will be on long flights from the US west coast to SE Asia. The first leg is on a Boeing 777 300 ER (EVA Airlines), the second leg on an Airbus A350-900 (Singapore Airlines).....several hours on each in the same day. I've been on Boeings many, many times but this will be my first long haul on an Airbus. Looking forward to comparing the two.
The best ever (for me) was the Air France 380 La Premiere. The service was incredible. CDG > MIA several times. Pity the A380 has been phased out.
@@watchtellyinuk The W aka 777 is a great airplane. Any Boeing aircraft produced prior to the year 2000 still has Boeing quality. I initially thought the max was very safe, considering how many analysts and engineers worked on fixing the MCAS issue but it's now apparent that Boeing has much deeper rooted issues. It's unfortunate that the company went this direction and there are reasons why; mainly MD. I do hope the best for Boeing but I have to admit to feeling safer on an Airbus now days.
Fly Airbus see the World
Fly Boeing see the next one
Literally
💀💀💀
Its disturbing how dark Boeing has become the last few years. And unimaginably getting worse. Its sad because competition drives innovations but as someone who loves aviation, Boeing isn't looking like the future. So many upgraded airplane types with Airbus while boeing is just sitting on the max that has so many issues years later. And the 777x that has been doing test flights for what seems like years. I want safe planes. And I cannot say boeing makes safe planes at this point in time. I cannot say Boeing as a company isn't cutting safety corners. Too much has come out. I am team Airbus now.
Right now it looks like a god point in time for a third producer to enter the competition to pick up the loose bolts Boeing leaves lying around
I fly a lot and was an admirer of Boeing until the past 10 years. I now feel much more comfortable flying on an Airbus. When I see A321 and not 737, I feel better. Boeing chose the evolve from a company with a mission of having quality and engineering as their strategic approach to one that was usurped with return to shareholders underpins why I feel better flying Airbus
I know these things can’t happen overnight, but if I were Airbus I would be making it a big priority to get another A321 production up and running right now. The mess Boeing is in can be good for Airbus, but only if they can seize the opportunity.
Now, I’m not really knowledgeable in the aircraft order sector, but perhaps Delta could get a deal for earlier delivery dates if they made some other agreements. Namely, if DL agreed to commit to order A330-800s to replace their 763s, that could be enticing for Airbus given the A330-800 is really not selling well right now. Delta could get a good deal on the plane, and a similar capacity replacement for the 763s.
Airbus are FULLY aware, the major problem is the fact that suppliers are still struggling after the pandemic. Then there's the problem of P&W Engines. Yes things are turning slowly around but it takes time. Speed is not the answer SAFETY is as Boeing are finding out. Training men and women also takes time. It has taken Airbus decades of hard work and commitment to break into the biased American Market, they will not want to put that in danger with a rushed decision
I wonder if Boeing is going to start remembering to put in the bolts.
Not with the current leadership. They focus on lobbying and getting certified via political shortcut
I think you have squeezed the last ounce of corny mirth out of this subject. Take the week off.
@RLTtizME, how much did Calhoun pay you to write this bullshit?
@@apeman9238 You are very clever in a trite sort of way.... and I suspect that your screen name is apt. Cheers Monkey Man.
@@apeman9238 So predictable.
I have flown to China on Delta three times and always on an Airbus 330. They inherited Airbus planes from NWA and they have continued a relationship with Airbus.
That’s the ones they fly on those routes..go figure
Delta are just realizing how good the airbus products really are. After operating the A350-900, it was only a matter of time before they ordered the -1000. Also, sometimes discounts dont influence which aircraft type to purchase. Meaning, you can save a lot buying a heavy fuel guzzler and end up losing in the long run, or pay a bit more but win in the long term with fuel savings and efficiency. As can be seen now with the a320 vs Max family. The max was heavily discounted, but airbus sold them out, smart CEO's chose the Airbus, and the ones who go for discounts went the Max way, and are now having to deal with all the max drama. 🤷🏾♂️✈️
Boeing had better get their 💩 together real fast.
Airbus owns two plants in Alabama...
One for A321's serie and a second for A320's serie... All are built for the south and north american market....
Amazing video again Sir!! ❤❤
Where is this sir you reference?
In Airbus we trust 😍🥰❤️
Airbus, let’s go. Boeing, oh no!
Hi there DJ if you are in business you need to have a production that is reliable each day can't have an airplane falling out of the sky or blowing of door's and then trying to cover up the messy behavior just can't work
Good video. I think another factor that will impact Delta's decision to purchase more Airbus planes over Boeing is recent events. Not necessarily by the airline itself making the decision but by the decisions of their travelers. I recently booked a flight on a Delta Airbus A320 because it's an Airbus plane. Other companies wanted me to fly on a 737 Max to my destination but due to my lack of trust in the 737 Max I went with Delta's A320 option. Maybe I'm the only one but I'd like to have some faith in the plane I fly on and I hope that Airlines like Delta will notice that if enough other people do this too.
I'm never flying Boeing again. Simple.
Boeing planes have new problems almost every day, take for example the past week
The company seems to be run by sketchy people who operate it like a mob, not a business.
So do Airbus ... the media's just not covering it cause it's so less dramatic. I loathe flying but I am taking a United Boeing transatlantic next week. It's getting to the airport that concerns me.
@@watchtellyinuk you driving to the airport has a higher chance of having an accident they say aswell
@@bignessgta5 Exactly. On the way to the airport you may be hit by a door or a wheel falling out of the sky
@@watchtellyinukYet another stupid comment. What are the incidents that the media is not covering? Back up your comments with actual facts.
I don't for a second think Delta expects to have any MAX-10s flying for them. The reason is that this plane has not even been certified yet and will most likely see huge delays. I think this was more a move to keep on good terms with Boeing. Not only that, but Delta would be way down the list of deliveries of the MAX-10 when they start. This was just a symbolic order at best.
Do you think the cs100 ordeal with Boeing plays a role in delta’s decision in the past few years as well?
When the BOD left the factory Boeing was on the road to trouble. When the BOD kept lying I was finished. I will never get on 737 Max ever. I tell the airline no Boeings when booking flights.
Hats off to delta. No company should result to murder to increase profit. If that's the case.
Hopefully, Southwest will switch to airbus as well. 🙏🏻
All their planes are Boeing 737 some are MAX variants as well. And which Airbus? a320? a321? ( incl NEO )?!
fr, it’s boring js seeing southwest planes being all 737’s they were looking at the a220 one time but went with the max 7, hopefully they do end up switching the max 7 with the a220-100
The a321neo could never replace the 757
not to its entirety no
but almost (and considering its base wasn't even meant to that's damn hell impressive)
and boeing doesn't have anything even coming anywhere near it
Yeah, well my life is pretty irreplaceable to me and mine!
It's already done in France.... Between provincial french cities (Lyon, Marseilles, Nice, Toulouse) and french Canada (Montréal). A321 neo is used......
…but it did - out of necessity
Boeing handed a huge gift to Airbus by ending the 757 and not taking up the NMA - enter the A321 boom. They are everywhere.
If all the airlines in the world put a pause on Boeing aircraft for a year or so , this might be the only way they could have time to get their house in order. Their stock price could fall to the bottom and Boeing would have to restructure… hopefully back to the past practice of been innovative company
It’s all down to cost; Delta picked up the a220 at ridiculously low prices. Airbus wanted to get into the US market and definitely offered them to Delta at something like $15 million/aircraft.
The 787 vs A330NEO, the 787 costs less, has a slightly shorter range, and weighs less. They don’t quite compete with each other for that reason and the distance between them is quite stark. The A330NEOs that Delta picked up were likely also offered at a steep discount to their list price, probably close to $115 million.
Delta had ordered a small taking of the A350s, but then they loved them so much that they took stakes in LATAM in order to secure their A350s. Delta retired its 777 fleet some years ago due to a comparative lack of fuel efficiency and a high empty operating weight vs the a350.
Problem for Airbus is that their delivery schedule is full on the a320 family through the 2030s so everyone will have to wait and suffer with Boeing
Thank God! I fly Delta frequently and I will never step into a 737 Max 9 or any other Boeing aircraft they have. Thank goodness for Airbus, at least they don't have horrible wrecks and doors flying off. Although they should be nervous since some of their wings and midsections are produced at Spirit.
Boeing still is not cooperating with Congress. Spirit is still not cooperating with Congress.
I don't know what to say, Boeing was a great company, but now it's just a former shell of what it used to be.
Oh, I forgot to mention Boeing's murder squad, killing whistleblowers.
There’s currently still nothing that can fill our 757/767 fleet fully with range, capacity, and performance from either manufacturer.
@Chris_1024_ I fly the bus. Great airplane. But the XLR will be like the NEO and all other 321 variants. Severely underpowered. The 75 could have full gas, full load of pax, and still depart hot, heavy, and high with performance to spare. The XLR already lost some of its range losing one of its fuel tanks. It won’t come close to the performance or cargo capacity the 752 had.
I worked for B for 1 year and leaving was the best thing I ever did.
I love the A350 That Plane is a “DREAM” Pun intended… This just ain’t the same Boeing anymore they died when they Merged with McDonnell Douglas in the 90’s. Hoping Southwest goes the Airbus route I can see some A320 NEO’s or the A220 in there fleet!
It’s just a smart business move to leave Boeing behind. The 737 is my favorite airliner and to see what Boeing has done to it is disgusting. Ruined the reputation of a legend.
Trouble is, its airframe is about 40 years out of date- and that was at least part of the cause of the MAX problems AFAIK, having to compromise on where they put the engines because there simply wasn't the clearance for modern engines led directly and indirectly to other problems.
@@alisonwilson9749 yes. I’m a maintainer of Boeing aircraft. The older ones are vastly better made than the new
its ironic to see a TEAM USA sponsored aircraft being the a330, a european manufactured aircraft instead of an american one
I much prefer Airbus over Boeing even before the Boeing shenanigans.
If it’s a Boeing I’m not going
Boeing is run by bean counters in Chicago now, investing only in stock buy-backs, not engineering or safety.
Boeing moved from ORD to IAD for easier lobbying.
But still tho,if delays with the Max 10 drag on even longer i think Delta could follow United's suit and probably could drop the order for the Max 10s and instead order more A321neos or even place orders for the A321XLR's, only time will tell 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
I fly delta. Excellent maintenance program.
good to hear your voice neutrally modulated… those very low modulated intro(s) from some videos sounded quite hilarious (at least for me).. nevertheless, content wise you are always always on point!
These comments about not flying on Boeing aircraft are completely ridiculous. It comes from uneducated and uninformed consumers reading and watching bullshit videos. Delta has always been a huge Boeing customer. They, unlike many airlines, are committed to having a diverse fleet of aircraft and even within those aircraft even diverse engines powering those aircraft. They do that to protect themselves from strikes, parts shortages and other disruptive happenings in the industry. These videos are very misleading. Their mechanics are not unionized and can work on multiple aircraft and engine types and don’t have to worry about one mechanics filing a grievance on another mechanic for actually working and doing their job. You will never see the maintenance issues at Delta that you are seeing at United right now. I have lots of friends that work for Delta as both mechanics and pilots and most of the pilots prefer to fly Boeing aircraft and the mechanics are about 50-50. It’s easy to jump on Boeing right now but if something pops up with Airbus and they start digging, the the pile on with start on them and the same uninformed public will be saying the same thing about not flying on an Airbus. At least on a Boeing aircraft, the pilots are still in control.
During manufacturing all cellphones should be checked in before work and pickup after shift ends. That way engineers and technicians can concentrate on the important stuff.
All tv and social media should be banned between 9 to 5 across america no more lazy asses.
Well done Delta!🎉👏👏👏✊️💯
Boeing doesn't know where it's going, except down the gurgler. Airbus is flying.
You can clearly tell by factory images. Airbus plants look more clean and organized than Boeing. There is no way Airbus doesn't produce a better product than Boeing.
That's both American, Delta and Air Canada placing huge Airbus orders.
As an American Airlines pilot i agree with their decision! Bravo!
I find it interesting the commentator talked of American built aircraft, one must remember Airbus builds in the USA. An increase in buying Airbus could presumably equate to an increase in the US Airbus plant?
For years I basically used Jetblue or Delta whenever I needed to fly. This fantastic news comes only a couple of days after I said to myself I never want ANYTHING to do with boeing ever again 👍👍👍
I have been Flying on Delta, ... and was happy they did NOT have any Boeing 737 Max Aircraft. Disappointed that might change.
Simply because it is a better plane
If it is Boeing, I ain't goin.... rescheduled my flight last week from YVR to YYZ when I realised I would be on a Max. NO way I am flying the Max..or the dreamliner. Guess the last reliable aircraft they made is the 777.
Thank you for sharing.😊
Its a pity all the management and lawyers of Boeing don't take a oneway trip in a 737Max...
24 Years ago, Boeing set up an Oversight, Corrective-Action & product reliabilty teams to affect a Six-Sigma manufacturing and compliance regimen. In the satellite realm, the 60 Six Sigma leadership team created excellent, reliable and lower-cost products to become a world leader. Today, that same site, has no Six Sigma activity. Product quality is lower, costs are higher, and their best rocket is hugging the ground.
Boeing needs to go out of business. 🦅🇺🇸
Didn't even mention the front of a wing coming apart in little pieces(Wing fairing) composite leading edge that just started flaking off about a foot wide over a third of the wing. Didn't even come off in one part as it is supposed to be made but like a shattered piece of safety glass pecking off an inch or two at a time.
I would not want to buy a plane that falls apart either
Boeing has become General Motors of Aviation 😂
Delta is the only US airline smart enough to not use unsafe Boeing planes.
You seem to forgot that Delta still operates a number of Boeing planes.
WHY would they move toward Booeing
I will not fly a 737Max right now and certainly wouldn’t buy one
Stay safe people. Fly Airbus👍
Airbus should stay aware of the work done for them by Spirit (?) which Boeing owns. They seem to be a significant source of problems.
Boeing does not own Spirit.
@@neodym5809 I've got some part of this wrong, but the one company works for both plane makers.
They owned what became Spirit before spinning it off to cut costs, and are considering bringing it back in.
I am sure they never thought of that. They should send you a check.
It's almost like Delta doesn't want to purchase products that kill their customers made by a company that kill people who reveal their dark secrets.
Simplification is the best from an economic point of view having said that you don't want to reply 100% on one supplier. There's also something to be said for diversification!
Delta is now my new airline; I don't want to be in a Boeing airplane at all.
Why don’t you talk about Boeing’s quality control management failures?
Always buy from at least two manufacturers.. this will keep manufacturers on their toes.
If it says Boeing, I ain't going. I want to be a passenger, not a statistic.
If Airbus builds the Airbus A220-500 ? They could cancel the dangerous Boeing 737 Max Jets.
Delta had its time with Boeing and they’re recognizing it. Now it’s time to enjoy the older reliable Boeing jets while we still have them