Nick Sibicky Go Lecture

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2016
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  • @Herv3
    @Herv3 7 років тому +153

    it's ironic that Lee Sedol was known as the guy who lost to alpha go when now he's the only guy to have ever beat the AI

    • @itai82
      @itai82 7 років тому +17

      Yeah! and probably the last one to ever will :) So it turned out really good for him.

    • @Ashhousewarez
      @Ashhousewarez 6 років тому +3

      he beat one version of the AI

    • @AndresLopez-fg6gx
      @AndresLopez-fg6gx 6 років тому +22

      Yes he did , the latest at that time, even when he wasn't at his prime.

    • @chevykoul4617
      @chevykoul4617 5 років тому +7

      But the rules of that game were not fair. A final version of the AI should of been handed to LS 3 months prior. Then they should not been able to code during the tournament. In fact, a lot of human intervention was involved.

    • @silyu97
      @silyu97 5 років тому +1

      @@chevykoul4617 so are engineers not allowed to check algorithm for fixing errors that possibly occurred? Well it is really an interesting rule

  • @psiqueatog666
    @psiqueatog666 4 роки тому +6

    I cant believe i watched like 20 nick's videos and only today i realised the pieces are black on one side and white on the other. Ladder game video, totally worth it! haha

    • @psiqueatog666
      @psiqueatog666 4 роки тому

      oh these double sided pieces only happened in this game! Tricky move!

    • @FtD2022
      @FtD2022 3 роки тому

      Same what i thought

  • @MartijnvanSchaardenburg
    @MartijnvanSchaardenburg 7 років тому +31

    Very cool! I'm beginning to see why people like Lee Sedol so much.

    • @paysonfox88
      @paysonfox88 4 роки тому +4

      In his Day Lee Sedol was the absolute best. The problem with his style is that it isn't for amateurs to learn from in the main. To Play this style of Go, you have to be able to both read 50+ moves in multiple variations in games AND have incredible intuition or creativity.
      I would study Honinbo Shushui from Japan in the 1890's if I were you trying to learn from a pro. Kitani MInoru is another one to study for us Ama's
      Avoid Go Seigen, Sakata Eio, and Lee Sedol. They play based on crazy intuition and reading the rest of us don't have

  • @Sai4651
    @Sai4651 5 років тому +5

    How can anyone be this good? Seeing this game almost makes me lose the will to play Go

  • @chrisr236
    @chrisr236 7 років тому +23

    my ranking has increased sharply since the day I stated watching these lectures, so thanks Nick!
    Could you do a lecture on just KO fights?
    idealy discussing things like: when to start a ko fight, when not to start one, and just any useful strategy relating to them.

  • @andriypredmyrskyy7791
    @andriypredmyrskyy7791 3 роки тому +7

    This game is crazy, it's like reality tv for Go.

  • @virgo47
    @virgo47 7 років тому +26

    Nick, totally awesome lesson series, but if I can choose a single thing to improve - try to place the stones more precisely, because sometimes you put them literally in the middle between two points. :-) I know where they go at the moment, but later it's rather confusing (for lower levels at least).

    • @tomastelensky-vlog8723
      @tomastelensky-vlog8723 4 роки тому +1

      I am bothered by the Chinese row names instead of using normal letters. It' makes it so complicated to communicate coordinates.

  • @jejeakle
    @jejeakle 5 років тому +6

    2 ladders and a double ko. This was a fun game

  • @tomastelensky-vlog8723
    @tomastelensky-vlog8723 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Nick, I love your videos where you explain the strategy of the top players :-) Shows so much of the true depth of the game. I enjoy this so much even if I don't play any more (too lazy to read :-)) Please do more of these :-)

  • @glenm99
    @glenm99 7 років тому +19

    I like to imagine that in the distant past, a young Lee Sedol was a bit bored, so he started messing around, placing a bunch of ladders on a board and seeing how they interacted with each other. Most of what he learned that day was probably trivial knowledge, which is pretty much how it always goes. But many years later, he saw this thing develop in this game and said, hey, I seem to remember something about this....

  • @zetafunctionova-zs6ge
    @zetafunctionova-zs6ge 3 місяці тому

    Point of Go lecture thanks.

  • @user-fy6il2ig2f
    @user-fy6il2ig2f 7 років тому

    This game is so cool! Loves it!!!!

  • @Mutrino
    @Mutrino 3 роки тому +2

    Go is a fascinating game, even if I do not remotely understand game play or tactics and it all looks like a completely random mess of black & white stones.

  • @paulparsons7332
    @paulparsons7332 7 років тому +2

    some very intresting moves that lee sedol makes

  • @benjaminr8961
    @benjaminr8961 4 роки тому +2

    8:20 would 18;13, 17;12, 18;15, work?

  • @Superman-nb2qn
    @Superman-nb2qn 5 років тому

    5:15 Why not play 17,6 to protect both cutting points?

  • @DankstaTV
    @DankstaTV 3 роки тому +2

    13:45 why is this not the thumbnail

  • @petereinzelspiel261
    @petereinzelspiel261 7 років тому +1

    30:32 I love George. :)

  • @martinlarsson8947
    @martinlarsson8947 3 роки тому

    Why did black agree to go into ko at minute 48?

  • @alperenyasar6792
    @alperenyasar6792 6 років тому

    I am not sure but it feel like during 53:00, black can fill it in. After throws something, black could take the KO.

  • @grafzhl
    @grafzhl 6 років тому

    Can someone explain why white didn't just play 19-19 at any point (put the black group in Atari) and then capture it?

    • @user-yo5gr7ul8f
      @user-yo5gr7ul8f 4 роки тому +2

      Because the corner is already white’s corner and it is not necessary to capture the blacks so early as there are many larger places on the board

  • @michaelfitzgerald5013
    @michaelfitzgerald5013 6 років тому +3

    I've watched this game discussed a bunch of times and thought I got it but can anyone tell me why white can't simply take the black corner group by atari-ing at the corner point at any time when his group is under pressure, thus resolving the whole corner situation. Say for instance at move 47 ???

    • @jonatanandvanie7493
      @jonatanandvanie7493 5 років тому +2

      The lower right corner belongs to white already. White can play 19-19 anytime to capture. So white plays somewhere else taking big points or building potential territory. But later White is tricked and has no time to play 19-19.

    • @picassodilly
      @picassodilly 3 роки тому

      Jonatan And Vanie 19-19 in response to the wedge, preserves the ladder breaker and give white capture as a response to the crucial Atari (although I doubt Sedol would have played out the ladder after that).

  • @e.q.8681
    @e.q.8681 3 роки тому +2

    Alive in double ko. Disgusting. Beautiful.

  • @picassodilly
    @picassodilly 3 роки тому

    If white responded to the wedge with the 1-1 corner to put the sacrifice stones in Atari, the trick would have failed and white would have some fairly decent potential with the four stone investment to compensate for loss of sente.

    • @samsowden
      @samsowden 3 роки тому

      But Black gets a couple of moves to force White to capture, building up some really formidable influence offer the middle of the board. This is unacceptable for White.
      White just needed to see the wedge coming, and defend instead of trying to run the top left laddered stone out pout

  • @paulparsons7332
    @paulparsons7332 7 років тому

    nick sibicky's rival is my friend 4 online go

  • @runderdfrech3560
    @runderdfrech3560 4 роки тому

    Was Lee Sedol Black or White?

  • @thegametaka
    @thegametaka 7 років тому

    Play with me in goquest.

    • @okty8372
      @okty8372 6 років тому

      i play in goquest but only in 9*9 wich format do you play ? (ps : i m not really good im at 1450 )

  • @cedurick
    @cedurick 4 роки тому +2

    I've been playing go for negative 8 minutes and I totally saw that shit coming. super saucy though, I'm shocked that it happened to a pro player.

  • @theadamsharland
    @theadamsharland 5 років тому

    7:29 "this atari doesn't work at all", it does! Its actually a really cool tesuji that kills the whole black group

    • @tomastelensky-vlog8723
      @tomastelensky-vlog8723 4 роки тому

      You mean 7:20... 18-6. How does it kill the group? He explains why the move doesn't work. "White needs to fix now" and black captures white stone.