Another one of my favorites of the year! I’m so glad you got to play and review it. I love the idea that it’s not just about finding the “main target,” but that you also get points through the theories and are rewarded for deducing other objects. Also, with Pendulum and Elf Creek Games’ Honey Buzz releasing this year, The Search for Planet X marks three Stonemaier Design Day heavyweights coming out in 2020.
He mentions other people messing up your note-taking in deduction games. But they can do that without being wrong. I once played Clue and accidentally asked for all 3 cards that I had in my hand. I did that my first turn, and it threw some people off to the point that I won because they spent the rest of the game confused about which cards I had in my hand. lol You won't get that from an app!
@@Trae_Lenox, Well, you aren't allowed to lie in Clue. The thing for my experience is that you ASSUME each player is going to ask a question that benefits them, and there's no benefit to asking about 3 cards that you hold in your hand. So everyone assumed that I had discovered at least one card in the solution because no one had any of the cards I asked about.
@@syahidali6125 ...its not as good as Tom thinks... >_> Don't get me wrong! It is pretty fun but I think for myself and people I've spoken with, he's overhyped it somewhat. I think I like planet x lot better actually.
I’d highly disagree with Tom. Playing with the designer he gleaned information from everything I was doing, and when he said he could solve it turns before I probably could, I was able to figure out what he must know to be able to solve it, and fit that into the rules to figure out where the planet was as well. I’d say the game has the opposite problem of the high skill ceiling preventing experienced players from playing with new people, as they’d be able to pick up too much from what’s going on.
Was lucky to get in on the kickstarter for this game, it's been a huge hit with multiple different groups. The company ran a super good kickstarter and was really good at keeping information flowing, highly recommend this to anyone!
If it has changed since last time it's Awkward Guests which includes hand management and more player interaction (although I'd argue the logical deduction is a lot weaker/definitely less satisfying than the rules driven stuff in Planet X)
I haven't played this game yet, though I really want to. I have played Loot of Lima which is another really crunchy deduction game, that is a reimplementation of Deduce or Die. You have to keep your notes correct and think through your actions, or you won't win. For example, I played it solo 3 times before I was able to win. A great game that I recommend, especially if you like logic puzzles.
I like puzzles like this, but why would I want to spend a lot of money on this game when I can play this on paper? For years I've been buying magazines with logic puzzles like this one. Cheaper, no battery needed, you can play it anywhere, anytime. So, is this really better?
I guess thats true for many board games... The experience is just muuuch smoother and enjoyable when you have the actual paper from the game to make your deductions on and a shield with all the logic rules on it and a board to keep all the theories organized. I think for the vast majority of people, yes, this is really better, but your threshold for whats worth buying and whats worth taking time to make a pen and paper recreation is probably just different from most.
Sam D I suspect you are right. Awkward Guests is probably his favorite. It also has the feature that other people can’t mess up your deduction thanks to the App. The card passing also makes it very interactive. The only bad thing about Awkward Guests is the card setup. While people can’t mess you up, putting one wrong card can and setting the cards up can be a pain.
I played this game recently and I would give this game a hard NO. It's boring and tedious and not fun at all. It actually feels like work. I played several big box complex games and I hate it and I can't imagine casual or medium players liking this either.
This is fun no matter how you play it. You could co-op it with your son, talking out loud about strategy playing against the bot. You could play competitively against him where you can start with 0 clues and he can start with 12, ensuring you both can play to the best of your abilities. Great system.
I own both this and Alchemists and Planet X has some nice advantages: - Planet X has a great built in solo mode in the app! Alchemists unfortunately doesn't. (There's a couple of unofficial solo variants for Alchemists out there that are ok but a little clunky.) - Planet X makes solving the logic puzzle the core of the game. Alchemists on the other hand feels like you get sidetracked from the deductive part of the game fairly often into the worker placement aspects for points and money. Not that those parts of the game aren't fun, but it definitely feels more like a hybrid game that has a deduction component than a pure deduction game. - Planet X has a much shorter setup and takedown time, and it's also a lot easier to learn the rules. Alchemists in contrast is a medium weight worker placement game where you have to explain what all the spaces do and learn all the iconography, etc. It's definitely harder to get new players up to speed playing Alchemists than it is Planet X. Believe me, I love Alchemists, but I am definitely playing Planet X way more than Alchemists now, especially as a solo game. (It's also kind of replaced Rising 5 for me which is another great deduction game with an app.)
I couldn't imagine a game like this existing without an app. You would need a giant book instead with some way of hiding information, so you can only look up bits and pieces.
Every time there is a companion app required i want to see an ipad dropped in the component drop shot :D
Oh, it only works on apples. I'll put my 286 away then.
Another one of my favorites of the year! I’m so glad you got to play and review it. I love the idea that it’s not just about finding the “main target,” but that you also get points through the theories and are rewarded for deducing other objects.
Also, with Pendulum and Elf Creek Games’ Honey Buzz releasing this year, The Search for Planet X marks three Stonemaier Design Day heavyweights coming out in 2020.
He mentions other people messing up your note-taking in deduction games. But they can do that without being wrong. I once played Clue and accidentally asked for all 3 cards that I had in my hand. I did that my first turn, and it threw some people off to the point that I won because they spent the rest of the game confused about which cards I had in my hand. lol
You won't get that from an app!
You could also not believe your opponents
@@Trae_Lenox, Well, you aren't allowed to lie in Clue. The thing for my experience is that you ASSUME each player is going to ask a question that benefits them, and there's no benefit to asking about 3 cards that you hold in your hand. So everyone assumed that I had discovered at least one card in the solution because no one had any of the cards I asked about.
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Ordered this a couple days ago - thanks for validating me Tom!! 😆 Love when that happens.. can't wait to play!
Sleeper hit of the year. So good!
I love this game solo. Terrific app. I also love the New Horizon upgrade pieces. Terrific use of different difficulty levels.
bonus points for using "inducing" instead of "deducing" appropriately
Tom you just cost me more $$$. Our whole family loves Cryptid and this one has so many similarities in the deduction realm.
get awkward guests. thank me later.
@@syahidali6125 Tom's current #1 deduction game, I believe. In his top 40 games of all time. Looks like I must get this game now too lol
@@syahidali6125 I will take a look
@@syahidali6125 ...its not as good as Tom thinks... >_> Don't get me wrong! It is pretty fun but I think for myself and people I've spoken with, he's overhyped it somewhat. I think I like planet x lot better actually.
Is there an option doing this without an app? It feels it has too much focus
Cryptid never clicked with me, but I love this game! I can't wait to try the advanced side
I’d highly disagree with Tom. Playing with the designer he gleaned information from everything I was doing, and when he said he could solve it turns before I probably could, I was able to figure out what he must know to be able to solve it, and fit that into the rules to figure out where the planet was as well.
I’d say the game has the opposite problem of the high skill ceiling preventing experienced players from playing with new people, as they’d be able to pick up too much from what’s going on.
Was lucky to get in on the kickstarter for this game, it's been a huge hit with multiple different groups. The company ran a super good kickstarter and was really good at keeping information flowing, highly recommend this to anyone!
Has your success been with the advanced or standard side?
Thanks Tom!
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Tom, what is your favorite deduction game? (I don't think I heard it during the video)
If it has changed since last time it's Awkward Guests which includes hand management and more player interaction (although I'd argue the logical deduction is a lot weaker/definitely less satisfying than the rules driven stuff in Planet X)
You’re not dumb Tom. 😂😂😂
Thank you for this awesome review. Purchased the game a day ago. Super charged to play!
Instantly in my top 10! I love love love this game
I haven't played this game yet, though I really want to. I have played Loot of Lima which is another really crunchy deduction game, that is a reimplementation of Deduce or Die. You have to keep your notes correct and think through your actions, or you won't win. For example, I played it solo 3 times before I was able to win. A great game that I recommend, especially if you like logic puzzles.
When does the game end? After set amount of rounds? Or after somebody finds Planet X?
Once someone finds planet x, everyone else gets one turn to either also guess planet x or make a theory and then the game is over.
@@Phildiculous thanks!
So what you're saying is, Planet X is always in Sector
1?
Great! I'm great at these sorts of games
I like puzzles like this, but why would I want to spend a lot of money on this game when I can play this on paper? For years I've been buying magazines with logic puzzles like this one. Cheaper, no battery needed, you can play it anywhere, anytime. So, is this really better?
I guess thats true for many board games... The experience is just muuuch smoother and enjoyable when you have the actual paper from the game to make your deductions on and a shield with all the logic rules on it and a board to keep all the theories organized. I think for the vast majority of people, yes, this is really better, but your threshold for whats worth buying and whats worth taking time to make a pen and paper recreation is probably just different from most.
If this one isn't your favorite deduction game, which one is?
What deduction game is better?
I'm guessing Awkward Guests. Tom raved about it and it has more player interaction
Sam D I suspect you are right. Awkward Guests is probably his favorite. It also has the feature that other people can’t mess up your deduction thanks to the App. The card passing also makes it very interactive. The only bad thing about Awkward Guests is the card setup. While people can’t mess you up, putting one wrong card can and setting the cards up can be a pain.
I played this game recently and I would give this game a hard NO. It's boring and tedious and not fun at all. It actually feels like work. I played several big box complex games and I hate it and I can't imagine casual or medium players liking this either.
1,679,616 different games to be exact.
I agree Tom, this is an excellent game.
Does anyone know how this would play if I tried it "solo"/co-op with my son who loves space/planets.
Eric Steinbacher I love it solo.
Plays great solo
It's more grounded in realism, but if he likes that, he's going to love it.
It's also nice if your son plays on his own, because he could have more starting information to make it more even
This is fun no matter how you play it.
You could co-op it with your son, talking out loud about strategy playing against the bot.
You could play competitively against him where you can start with 0 clues and he can start with 12, ensuring you both can play to the best of your abilities. Great system.
Nice tie.
i love this game so much! reply to me if you read this tim vasel❤
dang - and i just bought Cryptid yesterday
If this has infinite replayability how will I ever get to all these other games?
It kinda reminds me to Code 777. Of course incredibly more complex.
Reminds me A LOT of Alchemists
Think I'll stick with Alchemists.
I own both this and Alchemists and Planet X has some nice advantages:
- Planet X has a great built in solo mode in the app! Alchemists unfortunately doesn't. (There's a couple of unofficial solo variants for Alchemists out there that are ok but a little clunky.)
- Planet X makes solving the logic puzzle the core of the game. Alchemists on the other hand feels like you get sidetracked from the deductive part of the game fairly often into the worker placement aspects for points and money. Not that those parts of the game aren't fun, but it definitely feels more like a hybrid game that has a deduction component than a pure deduction game.
- Planet X has a much shorter setup and takedown time, and it's also a lot easier to learn the rules. Alchemists in contrast is a medium weight worker placement game where you have to explain what all the spaces do and learn all the iconography, etc. It's definitely harder to get new players up to speed playing Alchemists than it is Planet X.
Believe me, I love Alchemists, but I am definitely playing Planet X way more than Alchemists now, especially as a solo game. (It's also kind of replaced Rising 5 for me which is another great deduction game with an app.)
@@Bodyknock All fair points. Nonetheless, I don't have the money or space for a game that overlaps with Alchemists. Appreciate the reply.
@@Bodyknock Thanks for the comparison. I also love Alchemists so I was curious how it compared.
So how much do the boardgame companies pay you so you promote the games in back row.
If you understood what “projection” is, you would be really embarrassed about now.
"likely one of my favorite deduction game" lol What is this saying? :)
what ?
It sounds like you would spend alot of time looking at your phone, kinda kills it for me. Hard pass
You don't. Played it today. Once a turn you choose the action on your phone. The rest of the game you're focused on the board and your player sheet.
May I please suggest to add an "APP" tag in the headline, when doing app related reviews. It would really help out the people who dont play app games.
"people who dont' play app games". Why would that be a thing?
Those player pieces are absolutely atrocious. It looks like they raided their kids toy box and just said, yeah let's go with these..
This review definitely shows, that App’s doesn’t belong in board games 👎
I couldn't imagine a game like this existing without an app. You would need a giant book instead with some way of hiding information, so you can only look up bits and pieces.
Needs app 😣
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