as a fan of teamplay, i totally try to avoid the solo experience (with bot) because what i think: correct questions is not which class is "easier or stronger". correct question is what class synergise better with what. Because talking about vanguard... the experience running a vanguard with an heavy/sniper and a bulwark/tactician is far far far away from playing with bot :) personal opinion...
@@frithband3357 I thought the run was ruined at the end there haha, thanks! I am currently leveling up the heavy bolter and I think early on it’s hard not to miss the melta. It doesn’t seem to keep up with the damage that either the plasma or melta do until it gets to artificer, then I think it starts to come alive with the perks and stat boosts. Haven’t gotten it to relic yet so I don’t wanna judge it too much yet. I will say to me it feels like Iron Halo and the heavy bolter feel like a better match.
@@Jpapi32 nah dude nothing is ruined if you survive haha, you did a good job in some sticky situations XD i used the melta for a match or 2 but the bolter is where its at, takes some getting used to i guess, the only challenge it has imo is when you start getting swarmed at your feet with the little dudes, and sometimes struggling to see the terminus dudes coming, but contested health perks help with that. where it excels though is mid range clearance, its OP as hell when you learn to keep your distance a little, and more fun to master than the melta. would love to see you do a mission with it bro haha!
IMO the grappling hook needs to be changed to the pvp version where you can use it on terrain to move around too. Another issue is unlike other classes vanguard doesn't synergize well to its weapons. Feels like they wanted it to be a melee specialist but Assault does it better. As for weapons, sans the melta, tactical and sniper are better bolt carbine users. Its not "bad" just lacking identity. Without a sniper prepping a bunch of elites for it to zip around and finish off, its just kinda there, at least with a melta its a decent gaunt clear. Edit: Kudos for clearing solo with it, def the one that requires enemy spawns to be favorable.
Thanks! This one was definitely the one I was most nervous about. I couldn’t agree more with what you said. I think the pvp fix with the grappler would be a game changer. I just don’t like the loop of grappling into a group of enemies and having to back out quickly unless the melta is being used. Interested to see if they do anything with it, at least give us more melee options.
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as a fan of teamplay, i totally try to avoid the solo experience (with bot) because what i think: correct questions is not which class is "easier or stronger". correct question is what class synergise better with what. Because talking about vanguard... the experience running a vanguard with an heavy/sniper and a bulwark/tactician is far far far away from playing with bot :) personal opinion...
That makes perfect sense to me! I also love the team play aspect of the game, however I’m also a little bored and wanted to challenge myself
that was a close one at the end there dude lol, nice game. curious about what you think of heavy class with heavy bolter.
@@frithband3357 I thought the run was ruined at the end there haha, thanks! I am currently leveling up the heavy bolter and I think early on it’s hard not to miss the melta. It doesn’t seem to keep up with the damage that either the plasma or melta do until it gets to artificer, then I think it starts to come alive with the perks and stat boosts. Haven’t gotten it to relic yet so I don’t wanna judge it too much yet. I will say to me it feels like Iron Halo and the heavy bolter feel like a better match.
@@Jpapi32 nah dude nothing is ruined if you survive haha, you did a good job in some sticky situations XD i used the melta for a match or 2 but the bolter is where its at, takes some getting used to i guess, the only challenge it has imo is when you start getting swarmed at your feet with the little dudes, and sometimes struggling to see the terminus dudes coming, but contested health perks help with that. where it excels though is mid range clearance, its OP as hell when you learn to keep your distance a little, and more fun to master than the melta. would love to see you do a mission with it bro haha!
I’m gonna try to level it up all the way and do one with it!
@@Jpapi32 great bro looking forward to it. Esspecially on the new lethal difficulty haha.
IMO the grappling hook needs to be changed to the pvp version where you can use it on terrain to move around too. Another issue is unlike other classes vanguard doesn't synergize well to its weapons. Feels like they wanted it to be a melee specialist but Assault does it better. As for weapons, sans the melta, tactical and sniper are better bolt carbine users. Its not "bad" just lacking identity. Without a sniper prepping a bunch of elites for it to zip around and finish off, its just kinda there, at least with a melta its a decent gaunt clear.
Edit: Kudos for clearing solo with it, def the one that requires enemy spawns to be favorable.
Thanks! This one was definitely the one I was most nervous about. I couldn’t agree more with what you said. I think the pvp fix with the grappler would be a game changer. I just don’t like the loop of grappling into a group of enemies and having to back out quickly unless the melta is being used. Interested to see if they do anything with it, at least give us more melee options.