and to all these djt45 supporters...have you been listening to what your man Donnie intends to do with all his "beautiful" tariff money??? He is going to buy the grain from us farmers that 'Jhina' no longer buys and then give it away to the needy in other countries...A SOCIALIST PROGRAM... ...djt45 is a socialist...how funny.
@@hitreset0291 yeah well when he realizes how much it'd cost to send food to other countries on that scale, trust me, he'll just let it rot or force-feed it to the American people, who are just cattle to him.
The perfect example of Trump supporters....Jim Jones followers @ Jonestown Guyana. His 900 followers drank cyanide laced Kool Aid to their death. Ironically Jones used a gun to take his own life. All but a few ignored Jones command to drink the Kool Aid. That is where the term. " drink the Kool Aid" came from...people who believe everything their leader tells them without question..
As a middle-aged white male who has contemplated (but never attempted) suicide, I can offer my thoughts on white-male suicide. For me, extreme work, financial, and family stress are what push me into that dark place. As you get older, youthful dreams and aspirations slowly drift out of reach. You find yourself with less energy and motivation to fight and deal with the daily struggles and constant stream of bull-shit life deals you. Shame, guilt, and feelings of failure set in. You get to a point where you feel you don't have the energy or willpower ("man-power") to get back "on track". The easiest resolution, is to just give up and end it. You do not fear death. You welcome it for the release from suffering it will bring.
The best way to mitigate the suicide rate is to improve the quality of life and the well being of citizens. Countries with living wages, easy and affordable access to healthcare, good mental health services, and more vacation time are happier across the board. I'm not sure how correlated gun access is to suicide rates, but the government can definitely make an effective impact by implementing a system that doesn't bankrupt citizens with hospital visits and has a reasonable safety net for those in hardship.
There is actually a ton of research out there on suicide and guns. States with higher gun ownership see higher rates of suicide. One of the things about suicide is that a lot of people don't actually spend weeks to months deliberating about it. It's often a spur of the moment decision, and easy access to very reliable lethal means is a huge enabler. See one study below (focusses on yourth) where conclusion is "The availability of firearms is contributing to an increase in the actual number of suicides" www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna959946
C Raven great link, thanks. That definitely makes sense. Regulating gun ownership would definitely reduce impulsive and irreversible decisions, especially amongst the youth. I think that is just the start though - to cure the disease, we gotta dig deeper into the cause and not just treat the symptom.
I agree that quality of life improvements would reduce the stresses that lead to suicide. The problem is that the very people who would be helped the most repeatedly and predictably vote against proposals that would improve their lives because they want low or no taxes and they don’t want their tax dollars to help anyone else.
misidee The same could be said of a lot of books, which leaves many of those people with the bizarre notion that supporting Trump is a sign of intelligence.
Correct. But the thing about Racism, racism is a system of control. This is why people say blacks can't be racist. Bigots, prejudice, yes, but racist? No, because Blacks do not control the system. No power. Blacks cant prevent you from a bank loan. Jobs, etc. What say you?
2:55 - 3:35 "Why are white men killing themselves?" A lot of the answers Mr. Metzl are accurate, but he left out the most important one. In a white male patriarchal society, when you're the default setting, you just go about life either consciously or subconsciously knowing the system was designed (not really but...) for you. When you're African, Indigenous, a woman, or any other non-white male group, you develop coping mechanisms in order to survive (i.e. hands at 10-2 when driving when a cop pulls up, or when ladies go to the bathroom in pairs when at the club as so not to get harassed). Who needs to cope with life when the system is designed (not really but...) for your best interests? There's a saying out there - "The only thing that a white man with a penny hates, is a ni--er with a nickel". A black president? Women with autonomy over their own bodies? When will the lunacy end? A poster below made an excellent observation. The recession of 08 leveled the playing field, and a lot of white men thought they'd get back on top. When that didn't happen, they had no f'ing clue as to what to do. They thought whiteness would save them. Instead, it was a cruel lesson on how the system they THOUGHT was designed for them, by them, wasn't for them at all.
@Mark Collins How about you refute what I said with coherent arguments? I'll do a brief synopsis, and if you can present a civil rebuttal, we can have a decent conversation. The "white" race didn't exist until 1681. It was a New World creation. On the east side of the Prime Meridian you still had Brits, French, Spanish, Dutch, Italian etc., and within those countries even further breakdowns (Basque, Celtic, Catalonian, etc.). When Europe began colonizing the West, the elite of those countries KNEW they were outnumbered by the enslaved and poor whites. After Bacon's rebellion, rules were created, and most of these rules were applied to all colonies. Blacks were disarmed, some white indentured were freed and given land and some were given policing powers (slave patrol). The Irish are a prime example of this. No one wants to be on the bottom rung of society, and melanin was the easiest way to put someone in that place. As long as that white man with a penny felt he was better than that ni--er with a nickel, he wouldn't realize the reason he only had a penny was because his white elite class cheated him and had 94 cents. Regardless of where you were from in Europe, an economic value was placed on whiteness. So the Irish may have been hated, but their numbers were needed. Same with Italians, Jews etc. Canada (where I'm from) and the US were deigned to be "white men's countries". Leaders in both countries have said this (obviously not recently). With that attitude embedded in the fabric of each countries founding, is it any wonder why I said what I did in my previous post? White is the default. The 08 recession hit poor people, women and folks of colour (all 3 groups usually one in the same) the hardest. Why haven't suicides or drug use hit them the way it hit white men/women? The system designed was never for you. Rich whites hate poor whites more than they could ever hate anyone else.
So do blacks get shamed for their history likee whites do for colonization slavery etc? I believe Arab slavery is mostly unknown by anyone even tho Arabs killed over a 180 million Africans. The transatlantic one killed 5. Minorities are also told to be proud of their heritiage whites can't have that. We have people like Noel Ignatiev telling white men to kill themselfs only that way they can be usefull this guy taught at harvard. We are also told we need diversity why? No idea but we need it and only white countries need it. The Congo has been independant for decades now and the country went completely south let their infrastructure rot away over population you name it. The Chinese are now rebuilding it since the people themselfs can't. This fantasy of 'a system build for them and its changing thats why they are killing themselfs' is just stupid. This system has been build more for people like Metzl but say that and its anti semetic.
It's not exactly breaking news that people who own guns are more likely to die in a gun related accident . It doesn't make you safer and often you use it on yourself in a moment of despair
That's a silly statistic used to mitigate truth. If you put a pool in your yard that means your more likely to drown. So what? The fact is.......much to the disappointment if the left. Homicide and violent crime is down drastically from decades ago, even with population growth and gun ownership being up. That's all you need to know. Culture is our problem.....
Yeah , so if you don't want to drown - don't put a pool in your yard . Also crime and homicides are down but as the man said people who own guns still kill themselves by the tens of thousands every year . That hasn't gone down at all @@Kashmirknight
@@joeexotic2545 statistically you're way more likely to die in a car wreck if you drive a car. Should I give up my vehicle because "statistics", or should I try to be safe and smart...
In a moment of great despair it's easier to pull a gun out of the drawer next to you and pull the trigger than it is to drive to the nearest tall bridge and throw yourself off of it.
@CaptainRidley No they won't. If you have time to think a little bit before attempting suicide, there's a chance you'll reconsider. There's a reason women are less successful at committing suicide, they typically use drug overdose which has a much lower success rate. Gun suicide attempts are like 95% successful. So much for facts over feelings. Statistics don't lie. I understand you're upset about someone saying negative things about your hobby and safety blanket, but grow the fuck up.
@CaptainRidley I know Trumptards can only focus on one concept at a time but have you considered there are more factors involved in suicide than just guns? You fucking idiot. By the way, France has a lower suicide rate than the US.
@CaptainRidley Sure, people who are really serious about killing themselves wouldn't need a firearm. Though a gun sure does make it a lot quicker, 'less painful' and easier, especially if you have easy access to one. Hence, it's a very popular choice. If you can make suicide by firearms harder by lets say enforcing regulations where you as a gun owner would require regular mental checkups to guard against depression etc(which can lead to suicide), then fewer people would have a chance to kill themselves via this method since the ones in the risk zone would not have any easy access to firearms. Since their best option is not available, they'll have to think of others of course, but it's this time that gives the person time to reconsider their actions and perhaps even seek help or get noticed by other and admitted by force. Basically if you own a firearm and your doctor notices you're starting to become severely depressed or suicidal, then they'd recommend that the police takes hold of your firearms or gun cabin keys immediately. The cops will drive out and simply do it and the owner will get their key or firearms back once the doctor no longer think you're danger to yourself or possibly others(such at the next checkup). You'd still have your licence to own, just not access to the firearms during the duration of your condition. If they then go kill themselves via another method, it's nothing we can do much about, other than perhaps regulating those options to or make it harder for people to choose that alternative way of killing themselves. Take bridges for example, where they made it harder to jump or climb over the edge to prevent suicides. Same with pills, where you'd need a prescription to get the more dangerous stuff. We can't do much about knives of course, but where we can enforce some sort of control or preventive measures, we should put our focus at. Other than this, all we can do is encourage suicidal people to reach out for help and spread awareness. It would definitely help if psychiatric care were cheaper, especially in places like the US.
@@morgezorge6387 í think that's what he means. people who aren't crazy sjws who want to destroy whites, or crazy whites who want to exist into the future. but the whites who sensibly sit back, stay quiet, and pretend it isn't happening.
@@morgezorge6387 No, you are making a common mistake. In Europe, there is no strong pan-European feeling of solidarity among white people in general. Germans think of themselves as Germans, Poles as Poles, and so forth. That's why the European Union is such a weak institution and doesn't enjoy strong support. Nazism was far less inclusive than you imagine. Hitler was advocating for ethnic Germans in Poland. He didn't care about ethnic Poles in the same way.
@dez Jours You're parroting a tired and incorrect progressive critique of racial classification. Ever since the Renaissance, Latin and Greek were seen as critical ingredients in the Western tradition. It's only since the progressive movement started influencing the educational system that this perception has changed.
“…jingoism, racism, fear, religious fundamentalism: these are the ways of appealing to people if you’re trying to organize a mass base of support for policies that are really intended to crush them.” ― Noam Chomsky, Understanding Power: The Indispensable Chomsky
How can you want to commit suicide when your fighting and struggling to survive from day to day. Hardship!! Minority people have been fighting to survive from day one in America. Use to hardship. When your use to being at the top or let's just say a common feeling of superiority or subconscious privilege you don't even notice cause your so use to it and all of a sudden you hit rock bottom most people of privilege don't know how to handle that.....bang!!!
I am iffy on the concept that "government should not be responsible for their people's suicide". In a country with universal, government-run healthcare they would. Right? And even if I concede that government can't be responsible for every little thing, then fine. Don't be. However, if the people you govern have a lopsided suicide tendency like this, that fact screams "symptom of an underlying cause". It should at least be investigated, which makes the government ban on gun research that much more baffeling to me. Like, what kind of society is that afraid of knowledge that they ban research on anything? I understand if it's got to do with dangerous chemicals, bacteria, viruses, drugs, nuclear particles, etc. But statistical evaluation of anything gun? What, are they afraid that some poor shmuck with a clipboard going door to door is gonna get shot when he rings the doorbell and goes "Hello, government here. May I ask you about your GUN?!?". The US seems to have this anti-intellectual streak over the past few decades.
I lived in Japan for almost 20 years, a country with a healthcare system that includes everyone, very, very few guns and a high suicide rate. The Japanese government doesn't seem to be "responsible for their people's suicide." On another note, ""universal, government-run healthcare" is misleading: Japan has co-pays (affordable ones), citizens can purchase all the supplemental health insurance they can afford, and one is free to visit any doctor in the country, and it is the doctors making the decisions regarding the patients care, not the government.
HaploidCell Where I live, in Scandinavia, suicide is something we try to adress as it affects many more people than just the one who commits it! Sadly, in my country, we've had a right-wing government for years, and it has been undermining our healthcare sector in an attempt to privatize it, but hopefully we're about to see some changes very soon.... But to prevent suicide, you also have to nudge people into it being okay to talk about feelings, and to seek help - and it's important that the help is easily accessible, which is why a functioning universal healthcare sector is important - and why it's important to adress the real toxic masculinity factors, such as not being able to adress and talk about feelings when it matters the most!
HaploidCell it’s illegal to investigate the holocaust in much of Europe. It’s illegal to be critical of Israel in florida(so far). Liberalism is dying and good riddance
I have to agree that that was a poor call from Bill. Suicide is a symptom of mental health issues and mental health is just part of health so it certainly is the responsibility of a government that wants to ensure the health of its people.
These are some of the most intelligent and insightful remarks I've ever read on UA-cam commentary. You friends have made my night - thank you, a bookseller :)
To most "white" Americans owning a gun is patriotic. Its what being American is all about. I do not support firearms but thats what I have experience with people who owns guns.
Why do Liberals not want to talk about the high ownership of guns in the Black community or the rise of Black on Black gun violence in the inner cities, serious question.
Brodo I know how hard you worked to make a pithy and scathing rejoinder to that. I can smell the sweat of all the mental effort you put in to it. But it 's still a pathetic chain of barely literate non-sequiturs. Pats head. Keep swinging.
Quball Productions wring comparison. what rappers do you see bragging about gun ownership? What rappers love to brag about being part of the NRA? When was the last rapper talk about the Second Amendment? You need to think about your argument better.
There’s no middle ground. THAT is the real crux of our situation at this point in time. Young people are impressionable and are growing up online. They read what often time older people write. And that becomes normal. Well, a lot of people writing online, with zero consequence, do so from a very binary perspective. No middle ground. And now we have at least a generation of people for whom nuance means absolutely nothing. We have to make it cool again to appreciate that there are many shades of grey between black and white.
The crux is that White men and women constantly vote against their interests and its killing them. The Republicans have convinced them that liberals are the devil. When in fact the things that we fight like a living wage, access to healthcare, funding for infrastructure are the things that improve quality of life. But NAW, let's give tri!lions in tax cuts to the 1% and to the Defense Department
Tr🤡mp: I’m rich, but you can’t see my taxes. I’m exonerated, but you can’t see the report. I’m the smartest, but you can’t see my grades. I’m in perfect health, but you can’t see my medical records. What a joke. Lock that clown and his family up in prison forever. “The president is lying about...” should be the start of every evening newscast every night.
From suicide survivor studies, 25% say they went from making the decision to kill themselves to the attempt within 5 minutes, 75% say they made the transition with 1 hour. I agree; suicide is a right, but I think it is best to have laws in place to ensure those requesting euthanasia are level headed and have time to sleep on it.
So you have to pay to go to the hospital, and I'm guessing a high percentage of suicides have to do with finances, also if you tell a doctor you want to kill yourself they will call the cops.
Bill Maher needs to explain what is a white privilege? And how exactly one benefits from it? White privilege is so effective that senator warren checked Indian in her application, so much for white privileged!
Granted, the simplicity of the term implies "all white people are privileged at all times" but if you could muster some brain power to do some reading, you would see the concept is much MUCH more complex.
@@camilleholle1538 Really? Can you give us some insight to this privilege? how it works and how can we sign up for it? when was a last time checking white on any application helped anyone?
@@doctorstrangelove9487 I'm not hear to educate you. Do your own educating. Google is a WONDERFUL tool. You can easily look up what "white privilege" means and you would see that it's not about your boring counter of "white people have hardships too." (Of course ALL people have hardships.) Quit being lazy and do the work yourself.
@@doctorstrangelove9487 White is the default group against which all other categories are compared. Race being a mere sociopolitical construct, the basic difference is that other ethnic or racial groups can be defined by what they are; whiteness has always been defined by what it's not. It is fundamentally exclusionary, and why the definition has changed in history based on the prevailing group interests of white people.
Such a gem ‘the unbearable being of whiteness’! Seemed like a play on the book titled ‘the unbearable lightness of being’. Here’s a relevant quote from the book... ““The heavier the burden, the closer our lives come to the earth, the more real and truthful they become. Conversely, the absolute absence of burden causes man to be lighter than air, to soar into heights, take leave of the earth and his earthly being, and become only half real, his movements as free as they are insignificant.”
@@joeredtree If he has a high verbal IQ, then that explains why he's suffering from the IQ communications gap. He doesn't understand the psychology of the people he's talking about, which explains why all of his advice is misguided.
@CD Smith I've dealt with enough people like the guest in real life to have a sense of where he's coming from. You need to have useful intuitions about people before you can even ask intelligent research questions.
All ration & reason has gone out the window when you have people voting against their own economic interests 🤔 too many stupid people have the vote and this is one of democracies biggest weaknesses
Shall Northern Californians pay more to subsidize car insurance rate for southern Californians? Guess what it passed, Democracy is a form of government in which 51% inflict their will on the 49%
I'd be interested to know what the overlap is between people who criticise women for implying that they have to be ever vigilant because they might be sexually assaulted or raped and those who claim that they need a gun to have a gun because they have to always be ready to protect themselves and their family. I know that the NRA is keen to get more women to buy guns and, of course, they do so by making women more fearful. If women start buying more guns and start shooting more men whom they fear were going to rape them, I wonder who would get the blame.
When hope is dead people have no other options. This country is killing us, everybody is broke, student loans debt and house debt and medical debts are literally killing us.
Don't forget--these same people who place so much value on their guns are also mostly deeply religious believers.They have spent their whole lives relying so much on God to be their support that they have never developed the inner strength--emotional and spiritual strength--to be able to cope with adversity. So when hard times come they cannot get through it and become at risk for suicide. It's not guns that are the problem, it's religion.
I'm a Christian and can't imagine dealing with life's adversities without God. I'd gladly kill myself if I truly believed earth and our existence is some accident.
@@kennethnewton3489 If you feel threatened or persecuted as a white person, you're like an emo kid living with his rich parents, crying that life is hard.
i think he mischaracterizes the relationship between gun owners and guns when he says "the gun is their protector" i don't wanna say NO ONE thinks this, because i've been on the internet long enough to know that whatever it is someone believes it, but i think this places the agency in the wrong place. if you are a gun owner the gun isn't the protector, YOU are the protector and the gun is the tool you use to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your property. the gun will not protect you, it is, in fact, inanimate, you have to protect you and you may use that gun to do so. a police officer is a protector, a police officer has agency and can act on your behalf to protect you, your loved ones, and your property, without a gun you likely lack the ability to protect yourself and must instead rely on someone else to protect you. maybe you are fine with that, after all if someone else is protecting you then it's one less thing you have to concern yourself with, maybe you feel relying on someone else for your protection is cowardly and leads to a denigration of the spirit. and those are all fine discussions to be had. but the issue isn't with the gun itself, the gun is just a tool, the problem is, and has always been, with the people who use it and what they use it for.
White men are alone. The story of the lesbian who went undercover as a man for a year (60minutes or 20/20), and the story by a woman who transitioned to a male, both found out that it really sucks being a guy. Men don't get the support, love, or even common courtesy that women do, in fact hatefulness is often directed at them by women who are complete strangers to them. It starts young, male babies are touched, held, and kissed, less than females. Boys are taught from a young age that they are not allowed to express their emotions fully, crying is for girls, don't show weakness, being angry will get you punished, etc. They are in essence totally alone in a very cold world. This is why the male suicide rate is triple the female rate.
@CD Smith Yeah you live in canada yall use your guns for hurting animals. Here in USA every week is a school shooting or murder. Guns kill kids babies women. Im tired of them. They need to make bullet like $200 a bullet.
Curious to know how many where soldiers from Afghanistan and Iraq. That number has to be extremely high. Which has nothing to do with white privilege etc
I had a stepfather who shot himself (long after he was no longer my stepfather). His last words, to his then wife, were; "you won't have ________ to kick around anymore." He was a police officer who wrote books on gun safety. Go figure.
In England i have never heard of a Gun owner in my family except on the Welsh Farm of my grandparents. Rifle. All Hunters of game shooting . Criminals and police use arms..Ordinary people do not arm themselves; as in America. They do find other methods of ending their lives .Stress is the same .
The sucide rate is obviously cultural not racial but cultural. There are paticular challenges in white male culture that leads to great pressure to succeed which often leads to accomplishments (which translates into what people call privilege, which it often is for their sons & daughters) but can like wise lead to suicide it's the same with the Japanese who favor death before dishonor and others. This also relates in some sense to Protestantism etc. Each culture and set of features has it's inherint vices and virtues.
SJ L very true, as well as for; when white men have a mid life crisis and fall into despair after not hitting a 6 figure income bracket and ‘American Dream’ status that comes with it, the fall far harder and faster then their black or Latino male counterparts. Because black and Latino men have an innate understanding that the American Dream is unattainable to them but in general has never existed or has done so for a very limited and specific amount of time.
@@littlehandsgivescovfefe4837 I think of the American Dream simply as freedom of choose, individual rights, perhaps owning your own car, home, business, having a family that is relatively uninterfered with by the state. In that way I think it's attainable to all people but not with out true work & sacrifice. What ever the costs I believe our essential freedom is worthwhile.
I believe suicide of older white men is due to a downward spiral of life circumstances (medical issues, job issues, marital disasters, etc.) with no way out. People around them are unconcerned with them, ignore them (don't return e-mails, phone calls, etc) and generally isolate them, so they feel irrelevant. As an older white male who has lots of guns and has thought of suicide 3 times a week for 50 years I would agree having guns makes suicide easier. But I'm still here because I have always had a dog that loves me.
Why do Liberals not want to talk about the high ownership of guns in the Black community or the rise of Black on Black gun violence in the inner cities, serious question.
I clicked on this video when I thought Bill Maher was interviewing Jason Statham. Bill Maher interviewed some big time Hollywood superstars through the years.
White Trumpies want more Guns, these Guns are Killing them more. Trumpies want to end Obamacare, they need it the most. Trump put tarifs on CHINESE stuff, White Farmers suffer the conséquences...
I'm Black & I'm against voting for Black politicians wholesale, mainly due to the fact they rarely ever actually represent the interests of the community. They're mostly just bought & paid for shills that are puppets of whichever political party they're from, which is almost always Democrat.
No, there is a federal ban on research specifically aimed at promoting gun control. Specifically, the Dickey Amendment, which reads "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."
I just wanted to add about when u were talking about Russia and NATO. Didn't Russia used to be with NATO until they were kicked out for some reason. maybe that is why Russia did what they did do to interfere in our election?
Why does society stigmatize suicide the way it does? Not everyone wants to be here. None of us asked to be. If someone wants an out they should have that option
Privilege isn't supposed to lose jobs, or lose wives, or lose elections or lose dreams, and so the privilege they rise, the harder they fall. Does this mean, Black people don't kill white people, white people do? And you know, I'd love to stay on this Black vs white kind of thing to distract myself, but I'd rather address climate change, or the wars brewing, or the rich getting richer, or the banks still unregulated, or corporations having more rights than people do, or the fact that guns DO kill people....
*"The core argument of the book is that the politics that are supposed to make white America great again..."* Wow...less than 10 seconds into the author's synopsis of the book, and I know all I need to know to feel confident that not reading it would be a good idea simply because I would otherwise end up hating myself for being so reckless and masochistic. I'll wager the just taking it and hitting myself in the head with it for an hour would less painful. Granted, I can't help but be wildly intrigued as to what these policies are that are presumably crafted in order to strictly help white people-- and white people alone-- while leaving everyone else scrambling to pick up the rear.
Privilege isn't supposed to lose jobs, or lose wives, or lose elections or lose dreams, and so the privilege they rise, the harder they fall. Does this mean, Black people don't kill white people, white people do? And you know, I'd love to stay on this Black vs white kind of thing to distract myself, but I'd rather address climate change, or the wars brewing, or the rich getting richer, or the banks still unregulated, or corporations having more rights than people do, or the fact that guns DO kill people....
By and large, people don't vote to eliminate what they like, or for more restrictive measures because they *_might_* use it to commit suicide or even hurt themselves with it. *No one plans to.* Criticizing white males for NOT wanting to get rid of guns is akin to expecting new drivers to vote for a ban on cars 'cuz they are more likely to get in accidents.
Why always point to a gun control discussion and say: "They want to ban guns!"? Gun control is about limiting gun ownership to those that are going to use them responsibly. Very few people are advocating for a total ban on guns. Those few people are seen by the rest of us to be unreasonable.
I think you highlighted the biggest reason for the persistence of this major public health issue. The numbers show that over *20,000* Americans blow their skulls open each year, sure, but no non-depressed gun owner thinks that he’ll eventually be that guy. As long as suicide by firearm - the deadliest method there is - continues to be viewed in the abstract by those not directly affected, the largest barrier to gun regulations will stay right in place.
@@AndreasHatz Not sure I agree. Gun control frequently is about taking away _certain kinds_ of guns, or handgun bans in cities, etc. Bottom line, when people purchase the gun(s) they are likely just fine (suicide impulses occurring down the road); plus Dem's have consistently opposed any effective means of finding out *who* may be unstable on the basis of privacy.
Privilege isn't supposed to lose jobs, or lose wives, or lose elections or lose dreams, and so the privilege they rise, the harder they fall. Does this mean, Black people don't kill white people, white people do? And you know, I'd love to stay on this Black vs white kind of thing to distract myself, but I'd rather address climate change, or the wars brewing, or the rich getting richer, or the banks still unregulated, or corporations having more rights than people do, or the fact that guns DO kill people, and the other fact that Flint still has toxic water, or that students are in debt simply for being bright enough to go to college. Or how about Venezuela getting $50 million in aid and truck caravans, while Californians, US citizens, don't even get FEMA and still live in unsheltered parking lots from the last fire... Lots to talk about besides the dumbing down of America by the media, or Hate Inc.
Democrats understand that too many dependent people would lead to oblivion, but they want enough dependent people to re-elect them. They aren't interested in policies that lead to an economy with plentiful jobs, where more people have the opportunity to achieve financial security and independence, because that would erode their voter base.
stop telling people they are horrible, and taking their jobs, and teaching their kids that they are horrible, and they will stop killing themselves. Please keep this up, you're so busy making excuses; you won't hear those of us who are talking, soon it will be the turn of those who don't. Get bent Maher, you've gone nuts.
It's sick how people like you cannot see anything beyond you own nose. We don't like trump either...but we hate corporate globalism. And there is nothing wrong with my two white kids.
My point proven, but noone sane bases their self worth on gun ownership. Sacrificing your freedom and your rights for some imaginary security is the definition of deserving neither. History lesson 1. Until the early 1900s a very large portion of people in America hunted for their own food, many do so today. Lesson 2. USSR 25 million people purged, China 45 million people purged. Lesson 3. Remember the golden rule...telling people to kill themselves is not nice.
Two rich white guys talking white talk. Is this new? Politically incorrect? I'm expecting to hear the Tonight Show theme song at any moment. Neoliberal centrist comedy. Yawn.
Spot on with not facing enough adversity to build resilience. While it's not exclusively to whites, it prevalent with a lot of them in the US. Nothing that can't be solved with a little self awareness and empathy for others.
Because you watched this video and now you are reading the comments you get a gift. The gift of a really bad joke. What is a meth addicts favorite drink? Crystal Pepsi. Hahahahaha Hehehehehe Lol
And yet Bill has now downshifted HARD right into echoing the white resentment that he highlights here. But I guess “we’re not allowed to call him stupid.”
The people who are & will suffer the most from Trump's policies, are also his most staunch ardent supporters.
For once, there is justice in the universe.
and to all these djt45 supporters...have you been listening to what your man Donnie intends to do with all his "beautiful" tariff money??? He is going to buy the grain from us farmers that 'Jhina' no longer buys and then give it away to the needy in other countries...A SOCIALIST PROGRAM...
...djt45 is a socialist...how funny.
@@hitreset0291 yeah well when he realizes how much it'd cost to send food to other countries on that scale, trust me, he'll just let it rot or force-feed it to the American people, who are just cattle to him.
Nationalist apparently you do
The perfect example of Trump supporters....Jim Jones followers @ Jonestown Guyana. His 900 followers drank cyanide laced Kool Aid to their death. Ironically Jones used a gun to take his own life. All but a few ignored Jones command to drink the Kool Aid. That is where the term. " drink the Kool Aid" came from...people who believe everything their leader tells them without question..
As a middle-aged white male who has contemplated (but never attempted) suicide, I can offer my thoughts on white-male suicide. For me, extreme work, financial, and family stress are what push me into that dark place. As you get older, youthful dreams and aspirations slowly drift out of reach. You find yourself with less energy and motivation to fight and deal with the daily struggles and constant stream of bull-shit life deals you. Shame, guilt, and feelings of failure set in. You get to a point where you feel you don't have the energy or willpower ("man-power") to get back "on track". The easiest resolution, is to just give up and end it. You do not fear death. You welcome it for the release from suffering it will bring.
The best way to mitigate the suicide rate is to improve the quality of life and the well being of citizens. Countries with living wages, easy and affordable access to healthcare, good mental health services, and more vacation time are happier across the board. I'm not sure how correlated gun access is to suicide rates, but the government can definitely make an effective impact by implementing a system that doesn't bankrupt citizens with hospital visits and has a reasonable safety net for those in hardship.
There is actually a ton of research out there on suicide and guns. States with higher gun ownership see higher rates of suicide. One of the things about suicide is that a lot of people don't actually spend weeks to months deliberating about it. It's often a spur of the moment decision, and easy access to very reliable lethal means is a huge enabler.
See one study below (focusses on yourth) where conclusion is "The availability of firearms is contributing to an increase in the actual number of suicides"
www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna959946
C Raven great link, thanks. That definitely makes sense. Regulating gun ownership would definitely reduce impulsive and irreversible decisions, especially amongst the youth. I think that is just the start though - to cure the disease, we gotta dig deeper into the cause and not just treat the symptom.
@@randysavage1011 totally agree we need to look deeper! we shouldn't have so many people feeling suicidal to begin with.
Spot on, well said.
I agree that quality of life improvements would reduce the stresses that lead to suicide. The problem is that the very people who would be helped the most repeatedly and predictably vote against proposals that would improve their lives because they want low or no taxes and they don’t want their tax dollars to help anyone else.
Unfortunately, most of those people won't read your book...
misidee they're too busy trolling and "owning the Dems" on Twitter (aka Troller).
misidee The same could be said of a lot of books, which leaves many of those people with the bizarre notion that supporting Trump is a sign of intelligence.
Unfortunately a lot of Trump voters can't read...
They would get triggered by the word "whiteness" and burn the book.
We could always just tell people what it's about in a nutshell...read it ourselves.
There is no such thing as reverse racism it's just racism.
@ryne green A black person who hates you simply because you are white.
@@Buliwyf You are confusing racism with prejudice.
@@jesuso.4166 I'm not thanks
@Reg Eric I'm simply clarifying that in academia there is a difference. You are free to disagree of course.
Correct. But the thing about Racism, racism is a system of control. This is why people say blacks can't be racist. Bigots, prejudice, yes, but racist? No, because Blacks do not control the system. No power. Blacks cant prevent you from a bank loan. Jobs, etc. What say you?
I love you Bill, but let your guest talk, please!
2:55 - 3:35 "Why are white men killing themselves?"
A lot of the answers Mr. Metzl are accurate, but he left out the most important one.
In a white male patriarchal society, when you're the default setting, you just go about life either consciously or subconsciously knowing the system was designed (not really but...) for you. When you're African, Indigenous, a woman, or any other non-white male group, you develop coping mechanisms in order to survive (i.e. hands at 10-2 when driving when a cop pulls up, or when ladies go to the bathroom in pairs when at the club as so not to get harassed). Who needs to cope with life when the system is designed (not really but...) for your best interests?
There's a saying out there - "The only thing that a white man with a penny hates, is a ni--er with a nickel". A black president? Women with autonomy over their own bodies? When will the lunacy end? A poster below made an excellent observation. The recession of 08 leveled the playing field, and a lot of white men thought they'd get back on top. When that didn't happen, they had no f'ing clue as to what to do. They thought whiteness would save them. Instead, it was a cruel lesson on how the system they THOUGHT was designed for them, by them, wasn't for them at all.
Conrad Bess bravo. Well put.
Very insightful.
@Mark Collins How about you refute what I said with coherent arguments? I'll do a brief synopsis, and if you can present a civil rebuttal, we can have a decent conversation.
The "white" race didn't exist until 1681. It was a New World creation. On the east side of the Prime Meridian you still had Brits, French, Spanish, Dutch, Italian etc., and within those countries even further breakdowns (Basque, Celtic, Catalonian, etc.). When Europe began colonizing the West, the elite of those countries KNEW they were outnumbered by the enslaved and poor whites. After Bacon's rebellion, rules were created, and most of these rules were applied to all colonies. Blacks were disarmed, some white indentured were freed and given land and some were given policing powers (slave patrol). The Irish are a prime example of this. No one wants to be on the bottom rung of society, and melanin was the easiest way to put someone in that place. As long as that white man with a penny felt he was better than that ni--er with a nickel, he wouldn't realize the reason he only had a penny was because his white elite class cheated him and had 94 cents. Regardless of where you were from in Europe, an economic value was placed on whiteness. So the Irish may have been hated, but their numbers were needed. Same with Italians, Jews etc.
Canada (where I'm from) and the US were deigned to be "white men's countries". Leaders in both countries have said this (obviously not recently). With that attitude embedded in the fabric of each countries founding, is it any wonder why I said what I did in my previous post? White is the default. The 08 recession hit poor people, women and folks of colour (all 3 groups usually one in the same) the hardest. Why haven't suicides or drug use hit them the way it hit white men/women?
The system designed was never for you. Rich whites hate poor whites more than they could ever hate anyone else.
Mark Collins You sound very angry for exactly the reasons OP stated
So do blacks get shamed for their history likee whites do for colonization slavery etc? I believe Arab slavery is mostly unknown by anyone even tho Arabs killed over a 180 million Africans. The transatlantic one killed 5. Minorities are also told to be proud of their heritiage whites can't have that. We have people like Noel Ignatiev telling white men to kill themselfs only that way they can be usefull this guy taught at harvard.
We are also told we need diversity why? No idea but we need it and only white countries need it. The Congo has been independant for decades now and the country went completely south let their infrastructure rot away over population you name it. The Chinese are now rebuilding it since the people themselfs can't.
This fantasy of 'a system build for them and its changing thats why they are killing themselfs' is just stupid.
This system has been build more for people like Metzl but say that and its anti semetic.
It's not exactly breaking news that people who own guns are more likely to die in a gun related accident . It doesn't make you safer and often you use it on yourself in a moment of despair
That's a silly statistic used to mitigate truth. If you put a pool in your yard that means your more likely to drown. So what? The fact is.......much to the disappointment if the left. Homicide and violent crime is down drastically from decades ago, even with population growth and gun ownership being up. That's all you need to know. Culture is our problem.....
Spoken like someone privileged that's never had their home broken into
Statistically it's way more likely you kill yourself or die in an accident if you own a gun than for a hypothetical robber to kill you @@redwolf915
Yeah , so if you don't want to drown - don't put a pool in your yard . Also crime and homicides are down but as the man said people who own guns still kill themselves by the tens of thousands every year . That hasn't gone down at all @@Kashmirknight
@@joeexotic2545 statistically you're way more likely to die in a car wreck if you drive a car. Should I give up my vehicle because "statistics", or should I try to be safe and smart...
In a moment of great despair it's easier to pull a gun out of the drawer next to you and pull the trigger than it is to drive to the nearest tall bridge and throw yourself off of it.
Fucking bullshit!
@CaptainRidley No they won't. If you have time to think a little bit before attempting suicide, there's a chance you'll reconsider. There's a reason women are less successful at committing suicide, they typically use drug overdose which has a much lower success rate. Gun suicide attempts are like 95% successful.
So much for facts over feelings. Statistics don't lie. I understand you're upset about someone saying negative things about your hobby and safety blanket, but grow the fuck up.
That's stupid and you know it.
@CaptainRidley I know Trumptards can only focus on one concept at a time but have you considered there are more factors involved in suicide than just guns? You fucking idiot.
By the way, France has a lower suicide rate than the US.
@CaptainRidley Sure, people who are really serious about killing themselves wouldn't need a firearm. Though a gun sure does make it a lot quicker, 'less painful' and easier, especially if you have easy access to one. Hence, it's a very popular choice.
If you can make suicide by firearms harder by lets say enforcing regulations where you as a gun owner would require regular mental checkups to guard against depression etc(which can lead to suicide), then fewer people would have a chance to kill themselves via this method since the ones in the risk zone would not have any easy access to firearms.
Since their best option is not available, they'll have to think of others of course, but it's this time that gives the person time to reconsider their actions and perhaps even seek help or get noticed by other and admitted by force.
Basically if you own a firearm and your doctor notices you're starting to become severely depressed or suicidal, then they'd recommend that the police takes hold of your firearms or gun cabin keys immediately. The cops will drive out and simply do it and the owner will get their key or firearms back once the doctor no longer think you're danger to yourself or possibly others(such at the next checkup). You'd still have your licence to own, just not access to the firearms during the duration of your condition.
If they then go kill themselves via another method, it's nothing we can do much about, other than perhaps regulating those options to or make it harder for people to choose that alternative way of killing themselves. Take bridges for example, where they made it harder to jump or climb over the edge to prevent suicides. Same with pills, where you'd need a prescription to get the more dangerous stuff. We can't do much about knives of course, but where we can enforce some sort of control or preventive measures, we should put our focus at.
Other than this, all we can do is encourage suicidal people to reach out for help and spread awareness. It would definitely help if psychiatric care were cheaper, especially in places like the US.
I feel like there is a "sensible whiteness", we just don't talk as loud as the other groups.
There is no such thing as whiteness, white people do not advocate for white people, the ones that do are called Nazis.
@@morgezorge6387 í think that's what he means. people who aren't crazy sjws who want to destroy whites, or crazy whites who want to exist into the future. but the whites who sensibly sit back, stay quiet, and pretend it isn't happening.
@@morgezorge6387 No, you are making a common mistake. In Europe, there is no strong pan-European feeling of solidarity among white people in general. Germans think of themselves as Germans, Poles as Poles, and so forth. That's why the European Union is such a weak institution and doesn't enjoy strong support.
Nazism was far less inclusive than you imagine. Hitler was advocating for ethnic Germans in Poland. He didn't care about ethnic Poles in the same way.
@Gortall :We don't talk as loud as others unless , we've had a few beers.
@dez Jours You're parroting a tired and incorrect progressive critique of racial classification. Ever since the Renaissance, Latin and Greek were seen as critical ingredients in the Western tradition. It's only since the progressive movement started influencing the educational system that this perception has changed.
“…jingoism, racism, fear, religious fundamentalism: these are the ways of appealing to people if you’re trying to organize a mass base of support for policies that are really intended to crush them.”
― Noam Chomsky, Understanding Power: The Indispensable Chomsky
How can you want to commit suicide when your fighting and struggling to survive from day to day. Hardship!! Minority people have been fighting to survive from day one in America. Use to hardship. When your use to being at the top or let's just say a common feeling of superiority or subconscious privilege you don't even notice cause your so use to it and all of a sudden you hit rock bottom most people of privilege don't know how to handle that.....bang!!!
Yeah, because black people are the only ones that are poor. STFU.
I am iffy on the concept that "government should not be responsible for their people's suicide".
In a country with universal, government-run healthcare they would. Right?
And even if I concede that government can't be responsible for every little thing, then fine. Don't be. However, if the people you govern have a lopsided suicide tendency like this, that fact screams "symptom of an underlying cause".
It should at least be investigated, which makes the government ban on gun research that much more baffeling to me.
Like, what kind of society is that afraid of knowledge that they ban research on anything?
I understand if it's got to do with dangerous chemicals, bacteria, viruses, drugs, nuclear particles, etc.
But statistical evaluation of anything gun? What, are they afraid that some poor shmuck with a clipboard going door to door is gonna get shot when he rings the doorbell and goes "Hello, government here. May I ask you about your GUN?!?".
The US seems to have this anti-intellectual streak over the past few decades.
I lived in Japan for almost 20 years, a country with a healthcare system that includes everyone, very, very few guns and a high suicide rate. The Japanese government doesn't seem to be "responsible for their people's suicide." On another note, ""universal, government-run healthcare" is misleading: Japan has co-pays (affordable ones), citizens can purchase all the supplemental health insurance they can afford, and one is free to visit any doctor in the country, and it is the doctors making the decisions regarding the patients care, not the government.
HaploidCell
Where I live, in Scandinavia, suicide is something we try to adress as it affects many more people than just the one who commits it!
Sadly, in my country, we've had a right-wing government for years, and it has been undermining our healthcare sector in an attempt to privatize it, but hopefully we're about to see some changes very soon....
But to prevent suicide, you also have to nudge people into it being okay to talk about feelings, and to seek help - and it's important that the help is easily accessible, which is why a functioning universal healthcare sector is important - and why it's important to adress the real toxic masculinity factors, such as not being able to adress and talk about feelings when it matters the most!
HaploidCell it’s illegal to investigate the holocaust in much of Europe. It’s illegal to be critical of Israel in florida(so far). Liberalism is dying and good riddance
I have to agree that that was a poor call from Bill. Suicide is a symptom of mental health issues and mental health is just part of health so it certainly is the responsibility of a government that wants to ensure the health of its people.
I think the media plays a factor in this as well. And lying to people.
Great interview but if Bill wants a drill down on it he should interview Chris Hedges on the despair of the white working class.
He also did a wonderful podcast with Chris Hayes also titled dying of whiteness. It's about a hour long and really worth checking out.
Do you have a link?
@@grubolsch www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/dying-whiteness-jonathan-metzl-podcast-transcript-ncna987671
@Steing Groburf lol just Chicago? Everywhere they live the kill rate is insane. Even in the UK they kill each other
Thank you for this share. Off to Spotify and listen to this, I love Chris Hayes.
These are some of the most intelligent and insightful remarks I've ever read on UA-cam commentary. You friends have made my night - thank you, a bookseller :)
I FIND THE COMMENTARY TO BE A GRATE PICK ME UP! I ENJOY READING OTHER REGULAR PEOPLE's THOUGHT's ON THE DAY's EVENT's!!!
Owning a gun is a such a weird thing to be proud of.
being proud of not owning a gun (as you evidently are based on that comment) is as weird or weirder.
To most "white" Americans owning a gun is patriotic. Its what being American is all about. I do not support firearms but thats what I have experience with people who owns guns.
Don't see what's weird. On my way to the range with my Beretta and I love it.
As a women whos survived Domestic Violence... I find nothing weird about it.
@@iCtrlz domestic violence, abuse whatever the excuse, owning a firearm isn't the ultimate solution.
“Guns are the symbol for white pride.”
THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!
You disgust me
Why do Liberals not want to talk about the high ownership of guns in the Black community or the rise of Black on Black gun violence in the inner cities, serious question.
So when African American rappers talk about owning a gun and using it, they are about white pride?
Brodo I know how hard you worked to make a pithy and scathing rejoinder to that. I can smell the sweat of all the mental effort you put in to it.
But it 's still a pathetic chain of barely literate non-sequiturs.
Pats head. Keep swinging.
Quball Productions wring comparison. what rappers do you see bragging about gun ownership? What rappers love to brag about being part of the NRA? When was the last rapper talk about the Second Amendment? You need to think about your argument better.
Hey Bill, I know it's your name on the show, but how about let the guest tell us his conclusions instead of trying to force yours into his mouth.
There’s no middle ground. THAT is the real crux of our situation at this point in time. Young people are impressionable and are growing up online. They read what often time older people write. And that becomes normal. Well, a lot of people writing online, with zero consequence, do so from a very binary perspective. No middle ground. And now we have at least a generation of people for whom nuance means absolutely nothing. We have to make it cool again to appreciate that there are many shades of grey between black and white.
Agreed
The crux is that White men and women constantly vote against their interests and its killing them. The Republicans have convinced them that liberals are the devil. When in fact the things that we fight like a living wage, access to healthcare, funding for infrastructure are the things that improve quality of life. But NAW, let's give tri!lions in tax cuts to the 1% and to the Defense Department
Tr🤡mp: I’m rich, but you can’t see my taxes.
I’m exonerated, but you can’t see the report.
I’m the smartest, but you can’t see my grades.
I’m in perfect health, but you can’t see my medical records.
What a joke. Lock that clown and his family up in prison forever.
“The president is lying about...” should be the start of every evening newscast every night.
suicide is not a crime it is a right. It needs to be removed from the list of taboo things, and a service offered at hospitals.
From suicide survivor studies, 25% say they went from making the decision to kill themselves to the attempt within 5 minutes, 75% say they made the transition with 1 hour. I agree; suicide is a right, but I think it is best to have laws in place to ensure those requesting euthanasia are level headed and have time to sleep on it.
So you have to pay to go to the hospital, and I'm guessing a
high percentage of suicides have to do with finances, also if you
tell a doctor you want to kill yourself they will call the cops.
Bill Maher needs to explain what is a white privilege? And how exactly one benefits from it? White privilege is so effective that senator warren checked Indian in her application, so much for white privileged!
Granted, the simplicity of the term implies "all white people are privileged at all times" but if you could muster some brain power to do some reading, you would see the concept is much MUCH more complex.
@@camilleholle1538 Really? Can you give us some insight to this privilege? how it works and how can we sign up for it? when was a last time checking white on any application helped anyone?
@@doctorstrangelove9487 I'm not hear to educate you. Do your own educating. Google is a WONDERFUL tool. You can easily look up what "white privilege" means and you would see that it's not about your boring counter of "white people have hardships too." (Of course ALL people have hardships.) Quit being lazy and do the work yourself.
@@doctorstrangelove9487 White is the default group against which all other categories are compared. Race being a mere sociopolitical construct, the basic difference is that other ethnic or racial groups can be defined by what they are; whiteness has always been defined by what it's not. It is fundamentally exclusionary, and why the definition has changed in history based on the prevailing group interests of white people.
Such a gem ‘the unbearable being of whiteness’! Seemed like a play on the book titled ‘the unbearable lightness of being’. Here’s a relevant quote from the book...
““The heavier the burden, the closer our lives come to the earth, the more real and truthful they become. Conversely, the absolute absence of burden causes man to be lighter than air, to soar into heights, take leave of the earth and his earthly being, and become only half real, his movements as free as they are insignificant.”
Very intelligent individual,thank you real time personnel for sharing these videos
very high verbal iq especially.
@@joeredtree If he has a high verbal IQ, then that explains why he's suffering from the IQ communications gap. He doesn't understand the psychology of the people he's talking about, which explains why all of his advice is misguided.
@CD Smith I've dealt with enough people like the guest in real life to have a sense of where he's coming from. You need to have useful intuitions about people before you can even ask intelligent research questions.
You can't stop a person from committing suicide. If every gun ceased to exist, they'd use another method. This argument is illogical.
All ration & reason has gone out the window when you have people voting against their own economic interests 🤔 too many stupid people have the vote and this is one of democracies biggest weaknesses
Most human are vote against their own economic interests
Ronniedaking not the ones I know!
Shall Northern Californians pay more to subsidize car insurance rate for southern Californians?
Guess what it passed,
Democracy is a form of government in which 51% inflict their will on the 49%
Lots of gun nuts in my state have “Oregunian” window decals on their trucks.
Those windows get smashed in Bend.
sad
Just the fact they put stickers in their windows shows they have outwardly
violet tendencies, so when a cop pulls you over the Barney Fife comes out.
This man makes so much sense.
yeah another great jewish man hating on white people, while staying quiet about his jewish brothers in hollywood like harvey weinstein.
@@archivey-h8e I get your point but look beyond the title. He is actually talking sense.
I'd be interested to know what the overlap is between people who criticise women for implying that they have to be ever vigilant because they might be sexually assaulted or raped and those who claim that they need a gun to have a gun because they have to always be ready to protect themselves and their family. I know that the NRA is keen to get more women to buy guns and, of course, they do so by making women more fearful. If women start buying more guns and start shooting more men whom they fear were going to rape them, I wonder who would get the blame.
So they're being choked by their own hatred?
I find it difficult to feel bad for them.
When hope is dead people have no other options. This country is killing us, everybody is broke, student loans debt and house debt and medical debts are literally killing us.
Don't forget--these same people who place so much value on their guns are also mostly deeply religious believers.They have spent their whole lives relying so much on God to be their support that they have never developed the inner strength--emotional and spiritual strength--to be able to cope with adversity. So when hard times come they cannot get through it and become at risk for suicide. It's not guns that are the problem, it's religion.
Well, yes, but a killing tool shouldn't be freely available either.
Daniel Sobel don’t forget- if you’re white, you will still be hated no matter how much you virtue signal against other whites
I'm a Christian and can't imagine dealing with life's adversities without God. I'd gladly kill myself if I truly believed earth and our existence is some accident.
@@kennethnewton3489 If you feel threatened or persecuted as a white person, you're like an emo kid living with his rich parents, crying that life is hard.
@@jeremyrushton8310 I have bad news for you.
i think he mischaracterizes the relationship between gun owners and guns when he says "the gun is their protector" i don't wanna say NO ONE thinks this, because i've been on the internet long enough to know that whatever it is someone believes it, but i think this places the agency in the wrong place. if you are a gun owner the gun isn't the protector, YOU are the protector and the gun is the tool you use to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your property. the gun will not protect you, it is, in fact, inanimate, you have to protect you and you may use that gun to do so.
a police officer is a protector, a police officer has agency and can act on your behalf to protect you, your loved ones, and your property, without a gun you likely lack the ability to protect yourself and must instead rely on someone else to protect you. maybe you are fine with that, after all if someone else is protecting you then it's one less thing you have to concern yourself with, maybe you feel relying on someone else for your protection is cowardly and leads to a denigration of the spirit. and those are all fine discussions to be had. but the issue isn't with the gun itself, the gun is just a tool, the problem is, and has always been, with the people who use it and what they use it for.
@Paul B Explain Japan, Germany, Australia, and Denmark.
There is a federal ban on gun research?
BetweenMentions yup. Look it up
Yes,absolutely. Just like using the words man made global climate change. Please look it Google:Is there a ban on gun violence.
Its called the "Dicky Amendment "it bans the funding, for any gun death research from the CDC .
Read the "Dicky Amendment ".
yes, because the NRA knows, that research will just fuck them.... all they have is propaganda.... data uncovers their bullshit...
White men are alone. The story of the lesbian who went undercover as a man for a year (60minutes or 20/20), and the story by a woman who transitioned to a male, both found out that it really sucks being a guy. Men don't get the support, love, or even common courtesy that women do, in fact hatefulness is often directed at them by women who are complete strangers to them. It starts young, male babies are touched, held, and kissed, less than females. Boys are taught from a young age that they are not allowed to express their emotions fully, crying is for girls, don't show weakness, being angry will get you punished, etc. They are in essence totally alone in a very cold world. This is why the male suicide rate is triple the female rate.
When will you feature someone on the left?
Because intelligent people with jobs tend to be in the middle. He doesn't interview people who shout for a living
I hate guns so much.
@CD Smith Yeah you live in canada yall use your guns for hurting animals. Here in USA every week is a school shooting or murder. Guns kill kids babies women. Im tired of them. They need to make bullet like $200 a bullet.
Most mentally healthy people do
That guy is jewish, just in case people might of thought he was a white dude.
He looks white to me...😒
And Talking to another Jewish fellow. Interesting ; not really.
Theron XL Looks can be deceiving...
In other news: water is wet.
Bet Trump keeps saying it's not even water!!
There are knowns and unknowns...
Curious to know how many where soldiers from Afghanistan and Iraq. That number has to be extremely high. Which has nothing to do with white privilege etc
I had a stepfather who shot himself (long after he was no longer my stepfather). His last words, to his then wife, were; "you won't have ________ to kick around anymore." He was a police officer who wrote books on gun safety. Go figure.
Yeah doesn't make sense.
Has nothing to do with gun safety
@@somchai9033 Correct, has everything to do with availability. All the NRA nonsense about training and safety, won't help with human emotion.
sensible whiteness....
In England i have never heard of a Gun owner in my family except on the Welsh Farm of my grandparents. Rifle. All Hunters of game shooting . Criminals and police use arms..Ordinary people do not arm themselves; as in America. They do find other methods of ending their lives .Stress is the same .
The sucide rate is obviously cultural not racial but cultural. There are paticular challenges in white male culture that leads to great pressure to succeed which often leads to accomplishments (which translates into what people call privilege, which it often is for their sons & daughters) but can like wise lead to suicide it's the same with the Japanese who favor death before dishonor and others. This also relates in some sense to Protestantism etc. Each culture and set of features has it's inherint vices and virtues.
SJ L very true, as well as for; when white men have a mid life crisis and fall into despair after not hitting a 6 figure income bracket and ‘American Dream’ status that comes with it, the fall far harder and faster then their black or Latino male counterparts. Because black and Latino men have an innate understanding that the American Dream is unattainable to them but in general has never existed or has done so for a very limited and specific amount of time.
@@littlehandsgivescovfefe4837 I think of the American Dream simply as freedom of choose, individual rights, perhaps owning your own car, home, business, having a family that is relatively uninterfered with by the state. In that way I think it's attainable to all people but not with out true work & sacrifice. What ever the costs I believe our essential freedom is worthwhile.
Men refuse to admit they are wrong, refuse to.see anither side, and they cop out.
It's not that simple. There's many cultural and social expectations that make it harder for them to ask for help or deal with big failures.
Excellent book!
Disgusting
I believe suicide of older white men is due to a downward spiral of life circumstances (medical issues, job issues, marital disasters, etc.) with no way out. People around them are unconcerned with them, ignore them (don't return e-mails, phone calls, etc) and generally isolate them, so they feel irrelevant. As an older white male who has lots of guns and has thought of suicide 3 times a week for 50 years I would agree having guns makes suicide easier. But I'm still here because I have always had a dog that loves me.
People need to be educated on race, open the discussion. Overcome the fear!
Why do Liberals not want to talk about the high ownership of guns in the Black community or the rise of Black on Black gun violence in the inner cities, serious question.
gap in knowledge is not the nra's problem, they know what the products they push are doing, they just don't care
thumbnail looked like jason statham lol
In this day and age, any point of view can be rationalized.
"Free guns and down with free healthcare!".........Irony lessons in (home) school are needed......
lol homeschool
More guns 👍🏼, less mental health services 👎🏼 ☠️☠️☠️ Great job, NRA. Like tobacco companies, you don’t give a 💩about killing off your customers. 🏦🏦🏦😈😈😈
acutally NRA has nothing to be Mental Health sevice you can blame the DEMS
@@ronnieDaking How?????
@@Kilamanjaro009 What does NRA have anything to do with government polices ? They barely a lobbyiest
It’d be cool if we had late night talk shows that could pontificate on the patterns and statistics of other races and ethnicities
Fox News broadcasts 24/7 if it's race war propaganda you're after.
Did he just validate Jim Jeffries' whole spill on gun control? Sounds that way to me.
Nothing like a guy with a high pitch voice who needs to clarify hes a doctor and professor talking about what middle america needs in LA on HBO
Aww someone's offended by the book learnin' man
I clicked on this video when I thought Bill Maher was interviewing Jason Statham. Bill Maher interviewed some big time Hollywood superstars through the years.
Well DAH!
Federal ban on gun research? Freedom my ass
What a bunch of bs.
Interesting. Would like to read this book.
These arguments are so shallow and offer now solutions. Imagine this professor saying that African Americans shouldnt vote for Black politicians.
I don't understand your point. Were they saying that white people shouldn't vote for white politicians?
You don't have arguments at all...
@@AndreasHatz Essentially, yes. He is making the argument to not vote for conservatives. Vast majority of conservative politicians are white.
White Trumpies want more Guns, these Guns are Killing them more.
Trumpies want to end Obamacare, they need it the most. Trump put tarifs on CHINESE stuff, White Farmers suffer the conséquences...
I'm Black & I'm against voting for Black politicians wholesale, mainly due to the fact they rarely ever actually represent the interests of the community. They're mostly just bought & paid for shills that are puppets of whichever political party they're from, which is almost always Democrat.
WTF there's a federal ban on gun research?
No, there is a federal ban on research specifically aimed at promoting gun control. Specifically, the Dickey Amendment, which reads "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."
@@FraterMerovius Reads like a ban to me. Regardless of where the money comes from no rational person could deny the need for something to be done.
America: we r the greatest country in the world!!!..
White man: *turns a glock 19 onto his head* Bang!!!
America left the chat*
... We gotta replace y'all! Ya'll are dying out!.....nicky smit!
I just wanted to add about when u were talking about Russia and NATO. Didn't Russia used to be with NATO until they were kicked out for some reason. maybe that is why Russia did what they did do to interfere in our election?
fellow white person
Why does society stigmatize suicide the way it does? Not everyone wants to be here. None of us asked to be. If someone wants an out they should have that option
Metzl and Mahar... Both LOVE the concept of a "Dying White" class.
Privilege isn't supposed to lose jobs, or lose wives, or lose elections or lose dreams, and so the privilege they rise, the harder they fall. Does this mean, Black people don't kill white people, white people do? And you know, I'd love to stay on this Black vs white kind of thing to distract myself, but I'd rather address climate change, or the wars brewing, or the rich getting richer, or the banks still unregulated, or corporations having more rights than people do, or the fact that guns DO kill people....
Old REPUBLICAN White men...Make sure you make that distinction Mr. Turner.
Nationalist another major problem are whites who think they can escape this hatred by being “progressive “ or “allies”
And it's your fault
0:05 Didn't I see that redbrick storefront on a recent episode of NCIS: New Orleans?
*"The core argument of the book is that the politics that are supposed to make white America great again..."*
Wow...less than 10 seconds into the author's synopsis of the book, and I know all I need to know to feel confident that not reading it would be a good idea simply because I would otherwise end up hating myself for being so reckless and masochistic. I'll wager the just taking it and hitting myself in the head with it for an hour would less painful.
Granted, I can't help but be wildly intrigued as to what these policies are that are presumably crafted in order to strictly help white people-- and white people alone-- while leaving everyone else scrambling to pick up the rear.
It appears you have completed missed the point lol
So the last 7 years of study can give you a definitive answer on life expectancy?
So this professor must have used models to come to his conclusions, because observations show that the rebound in blue collar jobs is happening.
Jobs for less money,lesser benefits.
Privilege isn't supposed to lose jobs, or lose wives, or lose elections or lose dreams, and so the privilege they rise, the harder they fall. Does this mean, Black people don't kill white people, white people do? And you know, I'd love to stay on this Black vs white kind of thing to distract myself, but I'd rather address climate change, or the wars brewing, or the rich getting richer, or the banks still unregulated, or corporations having more rights than people do, or the fact that guns DO kill people....
By and large, people don't vote to eliminate what they like, or for more restrictive measures because they *_might_* use it to commit suicide or even hurt themselves with it. *No one plans to.*
Criticizing white males for NOT wanting to get rid of guns is akin to expecting new drivers to vote for a ban on cars 'cuz they are more likely to get in accidents.
Why always point to a gun control discussion and say: "They want to ban guns!"? Gun control is about limiting gun ownership to those that are going to use them responsibly. Very few people are advocating for a total ban on guns. Those few people are seen by the rest of us to be unreasonable.
I think you highlighted the biggest reason for the persistence of this major public health issue. The numbers show that over *20,000* Americans blow their skulls open each year, sure, but no non-depressed gun owner thinks that he’ll eventually be that guy.
As long as suicide by firearm - the deadliest method there is - continues to be viewed in the abstract by those not directly affected, the largest barrier to gun regulations will stay right in place.
@@AndreasHatz Not sure I agree. Gun control frequently is about taking away _certain kinds_ of guns, or handgun bans in cities, etc. Bottom line, when people purchase the gun(s) they are likely just fine (suicide impulses occurring down the road); plus Dem's have consistently opposed any effective means of finding out *who* may be unstable on the basis of privacy.
Privilege isn't supposed to lose jobs, or lose wives, or lose elections or lose dreams, and so the privilege they rise, the harder they fall. Does this mean, Black people don't kill white people, white people do? And you know, I'd love to stay on this Black vs white kind of thing to distract myself, but I'd rather address climate change, or the wars brewing, or the rich getting richer, or the banks still unregulated, or corporations having more rights than people do, or the fact that guns DO kill people, and the other fact that Flint still has toxic water, or that students are in debt simply for being bright enough to go to college. Or how about Venezuela getting $50 million in aid and truck caravans, while Californians, US citizens, don't even get FEMA and still live in unsheltered parking lots from the last fire... Lots to talk about besides the dumbing down of America by the media, or Hate Inc.
Democrats understand that too many dependent people would lead to oblivion, but they want enough dependent people to re-elect them. They aren't interested in policies that lead to an economy with plentiful jobs, where more people have the opportunity to achieve financial security and independence, because that would erode their voter base.
stop telling people they are horrible, and taking their jobs, and teaching their kids that they are horrible, and they will stop killing themselves. Please keep this up, you're so busy making excuses; you won't hear those of us who are talking, soon it will be the turn of those who don't. Get bent Maher, you've gone nuts.
It's sick how people like you cannot see anything beyond you own nose. We don't like trump either...but we hate corporate globalism. And there is nothing wrong with my two white kids.
@@peterrichter9605 hear hear my white brother
My point proven, but noone sane bases their self worth on gun ownership. Sacrificing your freedom and your rights for some imaginary security is the definition of deserving neither. History lesson 1. Until the early 1900s a very large portion of people in America hunted for their own food, many do so today. Lesson 2. USSR 25 million people purged, China 45 million people purged. Lesson 3. Remember the golden rule...telling people to kill themselves is not nice.
Energy Entity After voting for Trump, you made the deal with the devil. It will go very south for you and your kids because of that deal
This could be the most strangest mixed-racist, mixed-scientific and complete shit I ever heard in my life.
Maher will say anything for a bag of gold...........
Don’t mean to sound callous, but what happened to the working class mindset of pulling yourself up from your bootstraps?
LOL! Sensible Whiteness
Two rich white guys talking white talk. Is this new? Politically incorrect? I'm expecting to hear the Tonight Show theme song at any moment. Neoliberal centrist comedy. Yawn.
I’m from Kentucky. White woman. He’s right
Sincerity of a lap dance
"Symbol of White Authority." Hmmm...
The sound of noise
Spot on with not facing enough adversity to build resilience. While it's not exclusively to whites, it prevalent with a lot of them in the US. Nothing that can't be solved with a little self awareness and empathy for others.
There really is no sensible whiteness though🙄
What is his problem with the white middle class? I work for a living. Stayed in school. Etc etc
IGNORANCE PERSONIFIED
This show is a joke 😂😭
Ismael Garcia And you are an assfucking shithole.
And not a very funny one
You're a Joke
You must enjoy that joke if you're here watching and leaving comment on it
Care to explain this comment?
Because you watched this video and now you are reading the comments you get a gift.
The gift of a really bad joke.
What is a meth addicts favorite drink?
Crystal Pepsi.
Hahahahaha
Hehehehehe
Lol
Gentile white people need to be proud and unite.
5:39
"There's no sensible whiteness."
HAHAHAHAHA
What? Racist
Who lives by the sword will die by the sword
And yet Bill has now downshifted HARD right into echoing the white resentment that he highlights here. But I guess “we’re not allowed to call him stupid.”
3:28 Firearms are a symbol of "white authority"?
What about dildos?
Everyone owns gun, try again, reality proved opposite their beliefs possibly!
Many of Trumps supporters already know they just don’t care. Mainly because the believe they’re sticking to the other side.
Another SJW College Professor, how surprising....
Mr. Metzl is a wise man. but who in the republican party will heed his message and warning? very, very, very few.