Wow listening to that was amazing! Old conditioning is dissolving. I think I was taught that it wasn’t okay to be formless. It’s such a relief to realize, it’s really quite all right. Deep gratitude for your sharing the way you do.
@@JalajaBonheim Yeah, to have to be a thing, and have to be unique and have a meaning and a purpose. Letting that go into the formless, infinite mystery that is here is peace 🙂
Only addition in my experience is thought, all sense input is immediate and already present. Thought would say: sensation starts at the contact point, sounds start at the ears, sight starts at the eyes etc etc......but it's not like that at all is it 😮 Reflections get me, we can't impose dimension on to those, then you look around and there is no dimension...... that's before mushrooms 😂 ❤
@@norfolkyeti 😂 Awesome. The mushrooms actually showed me this nondual formlessness directly and I kept trying to wrap my head around it for years as if it meant something. But it was just showing me plain experience lol. Its actually pretty challenging to let attention be in the senses fully 🤯 I don't think that changes until no-self.
Recently I was walking and I lost perception of where the sounds were coming from, I couldn’t tell if they were behind me or to the side or in front and I should have been terrified but I was just curious and then it went eventually back to normal.. if there’s really no center, I can’t imagine if that went on.. how the hell to live like that?
@@MaryaJohn-x5n It's like that anyway 😂 the thoughts that give objects a relative position, form, centre and so on are also locationless/formless and have no centre. So Nondual nature doesn't exclude anything and it isn't a specific experience. It's just that when those augmentation drop for the first time there is an interpretation in thought which can be confusing or worrying because it's not understandable 😄
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Wow listening to that was amazing! Old conditioning is dissolving. I think I was taught that it wasn’t okay to be formless. It’s such a relief to realize, it’s really quite all right. Deep gratitude for your sharing the way you do.
@@JalajaBonheim Yeah, to have to be a thing, and have to be unique and have a meaning and a purpose. Letting that go into the formless, infinite mystery that is here is peace 🙂
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Only addition in my experience is thought, all sense input is immediate and already present.
Thought would say: sensation starts at the contact point, sounds start at the ears, sight starts at the eyes etc etc......but it's not like that at all is it 😮
Reflections get me, we can't impose dimension on to those, then you look around and there is no dimension...... that's before mushrooms 😂
❤
@@norfolkyeti 😂 Awesome. The mushrooms actually showed me this nondual formlessness directly and I kept trying to wrap my head around it for years as if it meant something. But it was just showing me plain experience lol.
Its actually pretty challenging to let attention be in the senses fully 🤯 I don't think that changes until no-self.
@@difficult_to_describe I think I've a no-self moment coming soon, I'm teetering closer with the shrooms, tolerance is a bugger 😢
@@norfolkyeti It's a shame you won't be there when that "happens" 😂
@@difficult_to_describe 🤣
There is no one here, no one there…. Just appearances happening but no one to experience it….
Recently I was walking and I lost perception of where the sounds were coming from, I couldn’t tell if they were behind me or to the side or in front and I should have been terrified but I was just curious and then it went eventually back to normal.. if there’s really no center, I can’t imagine if that went on.. how the hell to live like that?
@@MaryaJohn-x5n It's like that anyway 😂 the thoughts that give objects a relative position, form, centre and so on are also locationless/formless and have no centre. So Nondual nature doesn't exclude anything and it isn't a specific experience. It's just that when those augmentation drop for the first time there is an interpretation in thought which can be confusing or worrying because it's not understandable 😄