Thank you Dave, for showing me how versatile that tool is - I acquired a Starrett one, and to be honest, I’ve only used it a few times on the surface plate for transferring dimensions. I hadn’t seen it’s being used in conjunction with a sine bar - that opens up a whole new world ! Kind regards, Steve A.
Glad it was helpful Steve, there are probably a few more uses too that I have not come across in my many Years of engineering. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Thanks Dave. You did a nice job making that tool, and showing its use. Suggestion: Sine bars - variety and their uses. Also a discussion on how the distance between the roller reference faces could be made accurately in the home shop. Thanks for sharing.
Great suggestion Russell, will have to have a sort out the different ones I have. Don't expect it in a rush, I have a couple of other ideas to video yet. I did not make that by the way, my Father purchased it from a retiring machinist back in the late 1960's. Thanks for the view and this excellent comment. Regards.
Good morning, Dave, I do have a plainer gage also. I have not used it and have not watched any videos of them using it. Thanks for the demonstration on using the plainer gage. Cheers
I've used mine to equalize the jaw pressure on my vice if I have a small part on one end of the vice, I put the planer gage in the opposite end of the vice. This helps prevent springing the vice
Hello Terry, thanks for the view and your comment. Just a small word of warning, a Planer Gauge is really classed as a precision instrument, for setting and comparison purposed. Using it as adjustable packing in a vice, albeit hopefully gently is not ideal. Either use and adjustable parallel or even better a small screw jack. A real simple one to use is a standard bolt say 8 mm and a long coupling nut they electricians use when suspending cable trays. Regards.
Nice demo of a very useful tool. It's fun to see the different forms of planer gages while they all serve the same function. Mine is shop made and the size style and proportion fit my own needs for the particular work I did. I think you covered the multitude of applications very well. I think originally it must have been have been produced to serve as an aid in setting up planers. I'm guessing. We had a large Rockwell planer which I occasionally ran but don't remember using my planer gage in conjunction. I probably could have. But through the years I have used my planer gage for many of the things you demo. A few years back when making a gear for my Doall bandsaw series I videoed using my planer gage in setting the gear cutter on my mill as you may have seen. Another nice video, well done Dave. Dr visit yesterday and he increased lifting to 20lb. Feeling better every day. Best health and happiness to you, Mike
Hello Mike, glad to hear that you are improving, take it easy still for a while longer, don't want any relapses. Glad you liked the video, from other comments it seems that they were most prevalent in the USA. Dad worked for an American Company in the UK, that was how he got my one, bought it from someone who was retiring. Have fun. Thanks for the view and comment. Regards.
Yes, Please do, you will find it so useful in many setups. I'm sure that there are other uses for it that I did not come across during my 55 + Years of engineering. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Fantastic video Dave ! I can't remember where i f saw these used first , Tom Lipton or Adam booth maybe but i remember thinking wow that is so simple but useful ! I kept an eye out for one for a few years here in Australia but it was either nothing or way too expensive for what i would use it for . I await with eager anticipation for your next video !
Hi Ian, so glad that you enjoyed it. Had not used it in ages, just thought that it might help others who may have one and not know what it was for, or for new people who can't afford Jo Blocks or a height gauge. May be a new one next week. New camera has arrived with zoom, so looking forward to better close ups. Thanks for your view and comment. Regards.
Hi Dave - you missed out the primary use of the planer guage - setting up tool height on the shaper or planer I use mine when I have to resharpen a tool for the shaper then I can put the resharpened tool back at the same height and take the next cut or when you change to a shear tool for a finshing cut I wonder if Rustinox use's one on his shaper ? I enjoy your video's and sometimes I learn something new Thanks Laurie
Hi Laurie, I did mention at the start that it was invented by Mr Starrett in 1910 for setting the tool height on a shaper. Perhaps you missed me saying that. Thanks for watching and mentioning that you set the tool height using one on your shaper. Regards.
Just for the reference I’m 52. An old friend from high school told me one day “you sure know a lot of old people” said your right, you can’t buy the knowledge they have and I want to know everything they can pass along, then told him and that’s why your a dumbass 😂
Well, this tool may be an ancient way to get heights etc, I've never ever seen or used one, but I can think of 2 ways that this would be very handy.......1st one is on a bench drill where you need to set the drill depth accurately for when you are counterboring or drilling a hole to depth without breaking through......the 2nd way is on a lathe where you need to set a tool in a QCTP tool holder to centre height.......most of these can be done with other methods but if I found one of these tools going cheap at an auction I'd snap it up quickly. The aspect of using it in place of gauge blocks with a sine bar or table has to be the answer to a maid's prayer (gauge blocks, even second hand and well used, are a kings ransom)..........it's something you would keep but probably wouldn't make due to the time and also the fact that it really needs to be hardened and ground very precisely. Here's a tricky question for you.....have you ever heard of a sticky pin? My father gave me one back in the late 50's (still have the original one in my tool cabinet) when I started my apprenticeship and it consists of a ball of Plasticine and a needle stuck in it..........the proper engineering one normally comes in a Wiggler set and is held in a drill chuck but the "soft" one is stuck on the end of an end mill or a drill and the pin or needle is made to run true with the edge of a ruler......it enables you to pick up a centre punch mark or the centre of cross scribed lines especially if you have to do multiple holes without having to remove the tool each time to use the Wiggler one..
Hello Ian, thanks for the view and this excellent comment. With regards to using it to set the height on QCTP the biggest problem you will have is finding a flat surface to rest it on as a reference. Most cross slides have bolts, oiler's or other things in the way. The other option is to use the lathe bed, but again can be a problem if it is vee bedway. What we did at Phillips was to make a custom made height setter for each lathe made from aluminium with the base suitable machined away to clear bolts, oilers etc. on the crossslide. The top was machined to the lathe center height, it was tapped to take a steel beak. Yes I have see the sticky pin used but never tried it myself. The commercial ones in a wiggler set are wicked if they fly and your fingers are near by as they are big and have a large ball area at the top. At least with a swing pin or needle it would be a lot less damaging I would think. Regards.
@@daveticehurst4191 LOL....Dave you are a real golden oldie with lots of experience in the real World.......the warning on the Wiggler flicking out in an arc is real as I saw it happen to a guy I worked with.....they are lethal. My lathe bed has 2 vees for the saddle and one and a flat for the tailstock.....luckily the tailstock flat is at the front and an ideal place to sit a height gauge on..... I especially made one for My Colchester so a planer gauge would work too ........it would come in handy for other uses.
I had wondered what these were used for. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Dave, very informative. So many uses, sometimes you have to think outside the box! Thanks again for sharing.
Glad it was helpful! Have a great day. Regards.
Thank you Dave, for showing me how versatile that tool is - I acquired a Starrett one, and to be honest, I’ve only used it a few times on the surface plate for transferring dimensions. I hadn’t seen it’s being used in conjunction with a sine bar - that opens up a whole new world !
Kind regards,
Steve A.
Glad it was helpful Steve, there are probably a few more uses too that I have not come across in my many Years of engineering. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Hello Dave,
Really good tip, especially for us on a limited budget, thank you.
Cheers.
Paul,,
Hello Paul, Glad it was helpful. Regards.
Thanks for the extra tips demonstrated Dave. I need to make a beak now and try some some of these out. Cheers Tony
Go for it Tony, gives you something to do instead of meditating. Regards.
Thanks for another great explanation.
My pleasure John, so glad that you liked it. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Great video Dave, I have come across one many years ago but never used one. Very versatile bit of kit. Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon. Great tool if you have one. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Thanks Dave. You did a nice job making that tool, and showing its use.
Suggestion: Sine bars - variety and their uses. Also a discussion on how the distance between the roller reference faces could be made accurately in the home shop.
Thanks for sharing.
Great suggestion Russell, will have to have a sort out the different ones I have. Don't expect it in a rush, I have a couple of other ideas to video yet. I did not make that by the way, my Father purchased it from a retiring machinist back in the late 1960's. Thanks for the view and this excellent comment. Regards.
Good morning, Dave, I do have a plainer gage also. I have not used it and have not watched any videos of them using it. Thanks for the demonstration on using the plainer gage. Cheers
Glad to help Randy. Thanks for watching. Enjoy the weekend. Regards.
I've used mine to equalize the jaw pressure on my vice if I have a small part on one end of the vice, I put the planer gage in the opposite end of the vice. This helps prevent springing the vice
Hello Terry, thanks for the view and your comment. Just a small word of warning, a Planer Gauge is really classed as a precision instrument, for setting and comparison purposed.
Using it as adjustable packing in a vice, albeit hopefully gently is not ideal. Either use and adjustable parallel or even better a small screw jack. A real simple one to use is a standard bolt say 8 mm and a long coupling nut they electricians use when suspending cable trays. Regards.
Nice demo of a very useful tool. It's fun to see the different forms of planer gages while they all serve the same function. Mine is shop made and the size style and proportion fit my own needs for the particular work I did. I think you covered the multitude of applications very well. I think originally it must have been have been produced to serve as an aid in setting up planers. I'm guessing. We had a large Rockwell planer which I occasionally ran but don't remember using my planer gage in conjunction. I probably could have. But through the years I have used my planer gage for many of the things you demo. A few years back when making a gear for my Doall bandsaw series I videoed using my planer gage in setting the gear cutter on my mill as you may have seen. Another nice video, well done Dave. Dr visit yesterday and he increased lifting to 20lb. Feeling better every day. Best health and happiness to you, Mike
Hello Mike, glad to hear that you are improving, take it easy still for a while longer, don't want any relapses. Glad you liked the video, from other comments it seems that they were most prevalent in the USA. Dad worked for an American Company in the UK, that was how he got my one, bought it from someone who was retiring. Have fun. Thanks for the view and comment. Regards.
thanks for sharing, gave me some good use cases to pick one up next time i see one.
Yes, Please do, you will find it so useful in many setups. I'm sure that there are other uses for it that I did not come across during my 55 + Years of engineering. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Great info thanks.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching. Regards.
have a new old stock one ( I took it out of the wrapping paper, never used it !! I will now! )
best regards Steve
Nice one Steve. Glad it was helpful. Enjoy using yours. Regards.
Great demo Dave, old tools are the best
Kev uk
Hi Kev, thanks for watching. Regards.
Very interesting. Nice work
Thanks for the visit, glad you enjoyed it. Regards.
Fantastic video Dave !
I can't remember where i f saw these used first , Tom Lipton or Adam booth maybe but i remember thinking wow that is so simple but useful ! I kept an eye out for one for a few years here in Australia but it was either nothing or way too expensive for what i would use it for .
I await with eager anticipation for your next video !
Hi Ian, so glad that you enjoyed it. Had not used it in ages, just thought that it might help others who may have one and not know what it was for, or for new people who can't afford Jo Blocks or a height gauge. May be a new one next week. New camera has arrived with zoom, so looking forward to better close ups. Thanks for your view and comment. Regards.
Neat bit of kit Dave Dude! TFS, GB :)
Thanks 👍 Graeme. Thanks for your reply. Regards.
Hi Dave - you missed out the primary use of the planer guage - setting up tool height on the shaper or planer
I use mine when I have to resharpen a tool for the shaper then I can put the resharpened tool back at the same height and take the next cut or when you change to a shear tool for a finshing cut
I wonder if Rustinox use's one on his shaper ?
I enjoy your video's and sometimes I learn something new
Thanks
Laurie
Hi Laurie, I did mention at the start that it was invented by Mr Starrett in 1910 for setting the tool height on a shaper. Perhaps you missed me saying that. Thanks for watching and mentioning that you set the tool height using one on your shaper. Regards.
Thanks dude!! I was confused during my lecture..how to setup those to for measureing and marking ..😊😊 🍺
Happy to help. Thanks for watching. Kind Regards.
@@daveticehurst4191 shared with my friends too.. amezing content
Now this one I can easily see the usefulness of!
Thank you. Regards.
very helpful
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Hello from Aus. I have just subbed your channel. This kind of info is rapidly disappearing. Please live long enough to tell us all you know.
Thanks for the sub, hope so too as there are still things I want to do and see in Australia. Regards.
Just for the reference I’m 52. An old friend from high school told me one day “you sure know a lot of old people” said your right, you can’t buy the knowledge they have and I want to know everything they can pass along, then told him and that’s why your a dumbass 😂
Well, this tool may be an ancient way to get heights etc, I've never ever seen or used one, but I can think of 2 ways that this would be very handy.......1st one is on a bench drill where you need to set the drill depth accurately for when you are counterboring or drilling a hole to depth without breaking through......the 2nd way is on a lathe where you need to set a tool in a QCTP tool holder to centre height.......most of these can be done with other methods but if I found one of these tools going cheap at an auction I'd snap it up quickly.
The aspect of using it in place of gauge blocks with a sine bar or table has to be the answer to a maid's prayer (gauge blocks, even second hand and well used, are a kings ransom)..........it's something you would keep but probably wouldn't make due to the time and also the fact that it really needs to be hardened and ground very precisely.
Here's a tricky question for you.....have you ever heard of a sticky pin?
My father gave me one back in the late 50's (still have the original one in my tool cabinet) when I started my apprenticeship and it consists of a ball of Plasticine and a needle stuck in it..........the proper engineering one normally comes in a Wiggler set and is held in a drill chuck but the "soft" one is stuck on the end of an end mill or a drill and the pin or needle is made to run true with the edge of a ruler......it enables you to pick up a centre punch mark or the centre of cross scribed lines especially if you have to do multiple holes without having to remove the tool each time to use the Wiggler one..
Hello Ian, thanks for the view and this excellent comment. With regards to using it to set the height on QCTP the biggest problem you will have is finding a flat surface to rest it on as a reference. Most cross slides have bolts, oiler's or other things in the way. The other option is to use the lathe bed, but again can be a problem if it is vee bedway. What we did at Phillips was to make a custom made height setter for each lathe made from aluminium with the base suitable machined away to clear bolts, oilers etc. on the crossslide. The top was machined to the lathe center height, it was tapped to take a steel beak. Yes I have see the sticky pin used but never tried it myself. The commercial ones in a wiggler set are wicked if they fly and your fingers are near by as they are big and have a large ball area at the top. At least with a swing pin or needle it would be a lot less damaging I would think. Regards.
@@daveticehurst4191 LOL....Dave you are a real golden oldie with lots of experience in the real World.......the warning on the Wiggler flicking out in an arc is real as I saw it happen to a guy I worked with.....they are lethal.
My lathe bed has 2 vees for the saddle and one and a flat for the tailstock.....luckily the tailstock flat is at the front and an ideal place to sit a height gauge on..... I especially made one for My Colchester so a planer gauge would work too ........it would come in handy for other uses.