The Sad Fall of Glasgow Shipbuilding

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  • Опубліковано 29 січ 2025

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  • @jimwright1148
    @jimwright1148 Рік тому +6

    It was the guy from Scott's Greenock showed the Japanese how to build ships in a modular system and mirror image building for muti-ship contracts for identical sister ships,yet he never upgraded his own yards to do the same. I served my time in Scotts Cartsburn and Klondyke yards(1978-1982),the heavy machinery was ancient then!

  • @arkadybron1994
    @arkadybron1994 Рік тому +15

    There are two reasons why Glasgow shipbuilding eventually failed. Failure of the Yards to modernise effectively, and the refusal in the final times, of the workforce to continue to live in poverty and be exploited by the rich.

    • @RPMcMurphy-k9l
      @RPMcMurphy-k9l 7 днів тому

      @@arkadybron1994 they should have started their own business then instead of of sabotaging someone else’s why even the good companies all move out

    • @arkadybron1994
      @arkadybron1994 7 днів тому

      @@RPMcMurphy-k9l Suggesting that the almost destitute workforces of Glasgow shipyards, should just have started their own ship building companies, is at best glib or naive, but fatuous certainly.
      And withdrawing your labour is not an act of sabotage.

    • @RPMcMurphy-k9l
      @RPMcMurphy-k9l 7 днів тому +1

      @ your being glib all industry was nationalised it was the British tax payers who were their bosses the point l was making was if you think your being exploited you have the right to withdraw your labour and they did they went on strike that much that the contracts ran over time and over budget that’s why the ship yards closed the Norwegians walked away because of demarcation the unions killed industry in the uk red robbo finished British car industry jimmy Reid realised too late they’d killed the shipbuilding business

    • @arkadybron1994
      @arkadybron1994 7 днів тому

      @@RPMcMurphy-k9l You really ought to learn your industrial history before making sweeping statements like that. All industry was never nationalised, only certain industries, and in fact Clydeside shipbuilding was only nationalised for a few years and only after it had already declined to point where it was almost irretrevabe. What's more, most of the period when it was nationalised, was presided over by a Conservative government, who did nothing positive to restore the yards to a viable business.

    • @RPMcMurphy-k9l
      @RPMcMurphy-k9l 7 днів тому

      @a bit early is it not ?

  • @kieranmilne7808
    @kieranmilne7808 Рік тому +5

    Great video, currently working in the govan shipyard so appreciated someone covering this part of Glasgows history, cheers pal

  • @waysidetavern
    @waysidetavern Рік тому +2

    Thanks for an accurate video on Glasgow's shipbuilding industry and it's sad decline. Very interesting. 👍👍

  • @ems3663
    @ems3663 2 роки тому +5

    Very well-made and educational video. Keep up the good work.

    • @alan2804
      @alan2804 Рік тому

      No it isn’t, it is full of inaccuracies and photographs of other places. Whoever made this obviously hasn’t done their research properly.

  • @MUSTASCH1O
    @MUSTASCH1O Рік тому +7

    Very interesting thanks. A book I'm reading tells me Glasgow was a story told throughout the British shipbuilding industry.
    Interesting that a state enforced merger of the entire Glaswegian industry played a part in its ultimate demise. The same story is true for the British car industry after it was consolidated into British Leyland. I guess politicians are poor micromanagers.

  • @Mintzz1690
    @Mintzz1690 4 місяці тому +3

    Thatcher was responsible to a great extent for the demise of shipbuilding on the Clyde, especially the lower Clyde.

  • @MB-ez7lf
    @MB-ez7lf 9 місяців тому +1

    Brilliantly researched and presented. Thank you

  • @Leffe123
    @Leffe123 Рік тому +1

    Verry integrering video

  • @nicks4934
    @nicks4934 Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @wboyle9721
    @wboyle9721 2 роки тому +9

    Well presented Glasgow is gradually improving with new housing new company's moving in and retail is main employer in the city it has taken Glasgow 60 years to recover but Glasgow also re invents itself there are pockets of poverty still within the city that needs addressed Glasgow is a very vibrant city the population of greater Glasgow is over 1.2 million more people have just moved out towards the suburbs there are multiple regeration projects ongoing today and for the future this will take time glaswegians are very good people and tourists are now coming to Glasgow to see this great city

  • @L555HEP
    @L555HEP Рік тому +6

    Glasgow built the ships that made the Empire great

  • @ConnorKD1876
    @ConnorKD1876 5 місяців тому +1

    i could point out a few mistakes but overall this vid good stuff!

  • @Viking88Power
    @Viking88Power 2 роки тому +4

    Great history

  • @roddy2body
    @roddy2body Місяць тому +1

    "CLYDE BUILT"
    I never understood why ship building didn't continue on the Clyde, as in cruise ships etc.. Nah we build war ships for BAE systems.. Glasgow is my city but it's frustrating when you look into it's past
    It had an extensive tram network (which had its own electricity separate from the grid) no trams now!
    It's got the 3rd oldest underground system in the world - yet was never extended, even though there are underground tunnels built..
    Llke he said in the video, our population declined heavily! It's like we were intentionally held back as a city
    City planners where either totally inept or it was some sort of corruption, knocking down whole areas to build a motorway through the city centre - only city in the UK with a motorway going right through it!
    St Enoch railway station.. probably the biggest or on par with central - just shut down & demolished..

    • @sligeach
      @sligeach 15 днів тому

      Held back by parliament!!!

  • @ronaldbayne1431
    @ronaldbayne1431 3 місяці тому

    Excellent resume of what happens in an urban based society where it sees money as the most pressing necessity. It forgets human needs and response times, totally ignored by transient political groups and large industrial consortiums. Such short sightedness is a shame but a current disease. Many thanks. Rmb5*

  • @alan2804
    @alan2804 Рік тому +1

    You’ve got your information for this from where?

  • @MB-ez7lf
    @MB-ez7lf 9 місяців тому

    So well done. Who are you??

  • @RPMcMurphy-k9l
    @RPMcMurphy-k9l 8 місяців тому +5

    The unions killed the ship building the car manufacturers the steel works and the mines militants were the reason for their demise

  • @tomhermens7698
    @tomhermens7698 2 роки тому +6

    They never understood the word "quality" in Scotland. Only "cheap".

    • @stephenwilson5043
      @stephenwilson5043 Рік тому +8

      Cunard might disagree with you there having built a lot of their luxurious ocean liners here eg Queen Mary, Lusitania, QE2 etc

    • @carltrotter7622
      @carltrotter7622 Рік тому +9

      The Cunard Queens of Clydebank disgree.
      The RMS Queen Mary - Still holds the record for the most people carried on any ship in history at any given time, 16,000 people. Also transported a significant fraction of the US troops that fought in WW2 alongside the RMS Queen Elizabeth.
      The RMS Queen Elizabeth - Still holds the record for the largest riveted ship ever built.
      The RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 (QE2) - Still holds the record for the most distance ever travelled by any ship in history, 6,000,000+ miles.
      And that's just 3 of the 30,000+ ships built on this river. In 1913 we produced 34% of all shipping by tonnage in the world. That's 1/3rd of global shipping output all on one river.

    • @boyfromblackstuff7859
      @boyfromblackstuff7859 Рік тому +10

      Clyde built equated to a R R standard of ship building.

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 Рік тому

      What a load of nonsense you speak, Clyde built is two words that I used all over the world like R R.

    • @Logies_right_hand
      @Logies_right_hand Рік тому +2

      @@carltrotter7622that’s incredible. Thanks for the information

  • @JimmyStewartjimmy
    @JimmyStewartjimmy Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the exciting video. Hope you make more. It is sad, although not in Glasgow, the parody of the two Scottish administration ferries being built in Greenock. The cost to the taxpayer of Scotland’s ferry fiasco firm is approaching a ‘scandalous’ half a billion pounds, five years late, still not finished.

  • @satscotia
    @satscotia Рік тому +1

    The historical film footage in this documentary isn't even geographically accurate 😅.

    • @walter77ify
      @walter77ify Рік тому

      Some of the pictures and footage didn't match the narration, that's true, but he narrated a very concise and accurate story, so well done to him.

  • @markwoods1504
    @markwoods1504 Рік тому +3

    Glasgow wasn't known as the second City of the British Empire that British City and Title was given to Liverpool .

    • @michaelkelly9545
      @michaelkelly9545 Рік тому +5

      Glasgow was named the second city of the empire in the 19th century. Not Liverpool

    • @DessieTots
      @DessieTots 11 місяців тому +3

      No, during Queen Victoria’s rule, Glasgow was named as The Second City of the British Empire. Other contenders were Manchester and Birmingham. The only thing that Liverpool gave the former empire was ‘Cilla Black’.