Excellent tutorial. Years ago I busted up a nodule into a pile of useless shards, having no idea what the process was supposed to look like. But I saved a couple of nodules, and now I'm excited to set up an anvil and a hammer out of some old files, and try again.
I'm glad you enjoyed this video, I was hoping it would be helpful to anyone wanting to learn to make their own gunflints. I used an old file for my tools. I snapped it in half and I use the lowerportion of the file as my "anvil". With the upper part of the file I brazed it onto a handle then I beveled the ends so that the top of the hammer was flat and the bevels were underneath. This makes the chipping process go smoothly. Good Luck!
I'm back watching this vid for about the third or fourth time, and I'm realizing that this vid should be in a collection of "Some of the Greatest Vids Of All Time About How to Do Things"! Extremely interesting and instructive, thanks.
Thanks so much eqlzr2! I've recently developed some playlists on my youtube channel where you can find different things I do all categorized into different lists. This video is on my flintknapping technology playlist. Have a great 2017!
Thank you for posting this one! I couldn't understand the previous video as it was showing only the back of your arm. This one is much better. As now i understand what you are doing. Thanks again! Very Impressive!
Great follow up...all i need now is some material The hammer design you made and the little stump show it all really well...thanks I think I've bought my last flints ...
I'm glad you checked this out Rick, I used to look on this one field for artifacts and in this one area I found over a dozen European made gunflints. The site was a meadowood camp site (circa 1500BC). I think it might have been a hunting camp for some of the earliest pioneers in this area. The site was on a small bluff next to a creek that emptied into the Genesee River just below. I ended up giving them all to my friends son, he was a collector of gunflints. I'd like to see what you found.
Here in Billings MT.......snow now forecast for Sat. Too much heat too fast........ i've been messing around with knapping arrowheads since i was a kid and found my first one on Long Island (Roosevelt).......love to hunt dem points! Now it's easier to work at making them. Core blade technology was, (is?) paramount in extending precious material......i also fell in with the bad crowd of neer-do-wells who shoot flintlocks about 40 years ago.........soooooo......LOL! My Best to you, Sir!
Thanks Paleoman!! This is awesome! I always wanted to know how to make gunflints. I'm an avid flintlock shooter and hunter. Flint knapping has fascinated me for a long time. Havent tried it yet, but I am going to very soon. Great videos! Thanks!
I've been meaning to reshoot this video for a long time and once the warmer weather returns I will make the video, so drop me a sub and you will know when I post it. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Thanks for the recap on how to make a good flint. I just purchased my first flintlock smoke pole. Apparently in our area of Ohio there is a shortage of flints. Where do you get your large flint stone from? Wondering if our Ohio flint is and good for black powder rifles? Thanks
Your Ohio flints are excellent for making gunflints. There are a couple of gatherings near the Flint ridge Memorial Park where you can get as much Flint as you want.
I usually get all my knapping rock and any tools I may need at the Letchworth knap-in that is held each year the last full weekend of August about 12 miles from my house. I live in Western New York State, but there are knap-ins all around the country that you may be able to find. A really big knap-in occurs Labor Day weekend in Ohio at the flintridge Park east of Columbus.
What kind of flint were you knapping and can you do a video on different flints and what is best and least desired, also thanks for turning the camera to the other side on this video.
In this video I was using Onondaga chert which is my local chert. Other flints and cherts that work well are Hornstone and many of the flints from Texas. I will see about making a video on some of the different flints I use.
All very good questions, It takes some practice to be able to make a blade core but there are several videos on UA-cam about that. I usually get my flint nodules at a knap-in that we have near my home, but other chunks of flint will also work well too. Good Luck!
an use that hammer and anvil to trim the width. I need to do a better video on this process and explain a few things better. I will work on this soon. Thanks so much for the sub!
Wondering where you get your Flint rocks ? My late father used to shoot flintlock shotguns and he made his own gun flints. I think he got his flint rocks from around Elizabethtown KY but I do not know the exact place. Wanting to pick up the skill myself now.
Great video. For the life of me I can figure it out haha. I recently bought "18th century surplus" English black flints. 100 of them. All of them gun flints They are all dull and i made your file anvil and hammer but all i can seem to do is bust all the edges into rounded ones. I've tried brass rod knapping as well. What advice can you give?
The upper half of the file that I attached to the handle has downward beveled edges at about a 45% angle. I lay the flint flat on the anvil part of the file and strike sharply downward with the beveled hammer causing a flake or chip to come off sharply underneath. Does that make sense, I hope it helps, Good Luck!
87? Please don't tease me, haha. It has been ridiculously cold and damp here for the last 3 days. I'm glad you got to see exactly how I do this, pretty easy to do other than making the blade core. That takes a little practice and a good understanding of basic flintknapping. Good luck and pm me if you have any other questions.
These can be a real money maker if you go to a Primitive rendezvous and set up your stuff and start making them. I've heard some guys get at least a dollar a flint. I've never sold any, I usually just give them away or barter with them. Do you shoot a flintlock? (Smokepole?), if so, I'll send some to you with that Snyders point I'll be sending your way.
Thank you! I need to find LARG Materials, I think I could enjoy the heck out of this craft! Any recomendations on getting my hands on stones this large out west? I just fabricated my flint knapping brass stepped punch out of an old torch nozzle.
There are some really good knapping stones in Texas. These stones make excellent gunflints. Some are found in the Pederneles River, there is also Edwards Plateau chert and Georgetown chert.
Thank you for a very good educational video on making flints. I live in eastern Ontario, and have not much luck in finding any flint nodules. I'll keep looking! What are you using for an anvil......an old file perhaps??
Hi Fred, thanks for watching this video I shot a ew years ago. I really need to do an updated version sometime. Yes, I used an old file for the anvil part in the wood and the other half I brazed onto a handle for my hammer. I have heard that some folks up your way have found ship ballast flint along areas where the boats from England would dump their ballast load to take on their shipment. You might want to check around and see if anyone knows about that. Those flint nodules are the best as they are pure English flint.
Thanks so much! Very informative and satisfied my gunflint making curiosity. Putting a link to your video on my Charleville Firing and Cleaning webpage.
What I think is that I need me one of them cuboom gun's. You there hard to get here in Australia, even the blockpowder you've got to order it . Sold by the kilo here not cheap either. Great video bud . Great stuff mate
I made the hammer and anvil out of a file that I snapped in two. The bottom part with the handle tang is the anvil and the other piece I brazed onto a handle. So all you need is an old file.
WOW!!!! Thank you for showing how a gun flint is made!!!! I haven't watched your first video but this one is the first one I have seen that actually shows how they are made. I am not a knapper but am a black powder pistol target shooter and have a flint pistol as part of a treo of pistols I have shot in matches. I have considered taking up the art of knapping just to learn how to make my own supply of gun flints. Did you make the hammer you were using yourself?
There are several guys that sell good material out there. I get these Hornstone nodules from a fellow named Eris Morris. I think you can find him under the name Eric's Rocks. Tell him Ken Wallace sent you and he'll take good care of you. Another fellow that is a really great guy to do business with is Craig Ratzat and he has a website you can visit and get some contact info from it Go to Neolithics.com and once again tell him I sent you. Good Luck!
Where can I get the horn stone flint to try this? Also, why do you use a moose horn instead of a chisel or some other device? I have access to whitetail and Elk Antlers, would they work?
These are all good questions, I'll do my best to answer them. I was getting the hornstone material from a fellow at our local knap-in, his contact info is Eric's rocks, google that to contact him. I use moose antler because that is basically what I use as a flintknapper. Many folks use antler with an indirect percussion method by punching flakes off a core. I use direct percussion as that is something I am very familiar with. Whitetail and Elk antler doesn't work as well as those antlers aren't as dense as Moose antler.
I get most of my rocks at a knap-in that is held every year near my home in Western New York state. One of the best on line places I have used is neolithics.com. Craig Ratzat is the owner and a heck of a nice guy. About the best prices and deals out there.
Thanks for checking out this video! I love chipping out these gunflints from time to time, it's a nice break from arrowhead/knife making once in a while. Good luck when you give knapping a try, there are 2 things you'll need, lots of patience and lots of Band-aids, haha!
Question on the hammer you made from the snapped file. did you dress the edges of it to be flat or do they have a bevel in one direction or the other. Also what did you use for a handle and how did you attach it to that file hammer? By the way the view from this side was night and day better than the view in the first one. Thanks!
I beveled both ends at a 45 degree angle. The direction of the bevel is toward the handle. I had an old handle with a round rod inserted into it that I brazed the the file onto. I couldn't weld the file steel so I chose to braze it. I should delete that first video as it doesn't really give you a good view of what I am doing. Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot. It looks just like the hammers I saw in a 1940's video of flints being made in England. I think I can make one of those too. Good to know you can braze it onto the file as I don't have a welder. Thanks again for a great video!
Missed the first vid on this subject,but I'm glad I didn't miss this one! I think you solved a mystery for me....I believe I've found one of those gunflints in afield I used to hunt.....looks just like one....cool vid bud,neat stuff!!
We call them a "cock", not the hammer on a flinter out here on the West Coast. And way cool. Always wondered how it was done. Thanks for this second shot. Looking at your elbow on the first one was frustrating. ;) Have to try napping a tad. Think I still have some obsidian I can play with.
I usually get most of my flint at a local gathering of flintknappers that is held every year in Letchworth State Park. I use a variety of flints to make gunflints, Onondaga chert is my local material and works really good. Another favorite stone for me to use is hornstone. Traditionally flint from England and France was used and can still be obtained.
I was getting those from a guy (Eric's Rocks) that came to a local knapping gathering we have every year. He came from Indiana and brought those with him. You could try contacting Craig Ratzat at neolithics.com to see if he had some chunks of Hornstone.
I was getting that Hornstone from a fellow that goes by Erics Rocks. but I'm not sure if he is selling it anymore. I find that good Texas flint makes great gunflints also.
I don't sell any because I have to purchase most of the rock I use. I used to quarry my own Onondaga chert but That source is no longer available. A good source of rock for making gunflints is Eric's rocks. He can be found on line.
I made it. I used a piece of Hornstone. I have been a flintknapper for about 32 years and making blade cores is all part of learning to flintknap. You have inspired me to make a video sometime soon about making a blade core. Once it gets a little warmer I'll try to shoot a video.
Excellent tutorial. Years ago I busted up a nodule into a pile of useless shards, having no idea what the process was supposed to look like. But I saved a couple of nodules, and now I'm excited to set up an anvil and a hammer out of some old files, and try again.
I'm glad you enjoyed this video, I was hoping it would be helpful to anyone wanting to learn to make their own gunflints. I used an old file for my tools. I snapped it in half and I use the lowerportion of the file as my "anvil". With the upper part of the file I brazed it onto a handle then I beveled the ends so that the top of the hammer was flat and the bevels were underneath. This makes the chipping process go smoothly. Good Luck!
I'm back watching this vid for about the third or fourth time, and I'm realizing that this vid should be in a collection of "Some of the Greatest Vids Of All Time About How to Do Things"! Extremely interesting and instructive, thanks.
Thanks so much eqlzr2! I've recently developed some playlists on my youtube channel where you can find different things I do all categorized into different lists. This video is on my flintknapping technology playlist. Have a great 2017!
Thank you for posting this one! I couldn't understand the previous video as it was showing only the back of your arm. This one is much better. As now i understand what you are doing. Thanks again! Very Impressive!
Excellent video, thank you
Thanks for the update.
You are really good. Thank you for the video. I wish I had flint stones available in pennsylvania
Great follow up...all i need now is some material
The hammer design you made and the little stump show it all really well...thanks
I think I've bought my last flints ...
I'm glad you checked this out Rick, I used to look on this one field for artifacts and in this one area I found over a dozen European made gunflints. The site was a meadowood camp site (circa 1500BC). I think it might have been a hunting camp for some of the earliest pioneers in this area. The site was on a small bluff next to a creek that emptied into the Genesee River just below. I ended up giving them all to my friends son, he was a collector of gunflints. I'd like to see what you found.
Here in Billings MT.......snow now forecast for Sat. Too much heat too fast........
i've been messing around with knapping arrowheads since i was a kid and found my first one on Long Island (Roosevelt).......love to hunt dem points! Now it's easier to work at making them. Core blade technology was, (is?) paramount in extending precious material......i also fell in with the bad crowd of neer-do-wells who shoot flintlocks about 40 years ago.........soooooo......LOL! My Best to you, Sir!
Thanks Paleoman!! This is awesome! I always wanted to know how to make gunflints. I'm an avid flintlock shooter and hunter. Flint knapping has fascinated me for a long time. Havent tried it yet, but I am going to very soon. Great videos! Thanks!
Now that was what I was looking for not to give you a hard time you got awesome skills most of us just want to learn thank you very much.
I've been meaning to reshoot this video for a long time and once the warmer weather returns I will make the video, so drop me a sub and you will know when I post it. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Thanks for the recap on how to make a good flint. I just purchased my first flintlock smoke pole. Apparently in our area of Ohio there is a shortage of flints. Where do you get your large flint stone from? Wondering if our Ohio flint is and good for black powder rifles? Thanks
Your Ohio flints are excellent for making gunflints. There are a couple of gatherings near the Flint ridge Memorial Park where you can get as much Flint as you want.
I usually get all my knapping rock and any tools I may need at the Letchworth knap-in that is held each year the last full weekend of August about 12 miles from my house. I live in Western New York State, but there are knap-ins all around the country that you may be able to find. A really big knap-in occurs Labor Day weekend in Ohio at the flintridge Park east of Columbus.
What kind of flint were you knapping and can you do a video on different flints and what is best and least desired, also thanks for turning the camera to the other side on this video.
In this video I was using Onondaga chert which is my local chert. Other flints and cherts that work well are Hornstone and many of the flints from Texas. I will see about making a video on some of the different flints I use.
Awesome video thank you so much for sharing I was just wondering where I could buy a spal of Flint that size or bigger
There is a fellow in Indiana that sells some great rock for making gunflints. Google Eric's Rocks.
All very good questions, It takes some practice to be able to make a blade core but there are several videos on UA-cam about that. I usually get my flint nodules at a knap-in that we have near my home, but other chunks of flint will also work well too. Good Luck!
This is what I've been looking for! I thank you for posting this. Now I'm beginning to believe that I can do this. 😊
Thanks so much for the great comments, I hope you found this little video helpful and thanks for linking my channel!
Thanks for watching! I need to do an updated video on this sometime.
Great video.Just subscribed,and I have a question.How do you cut the width if it is wider than your frizzen?
an use that hammer and anvil to trim the width. I need to do a better video on this process and explain a few things better. I will work on this soon. Thanks so much for the sub!
Wondering where you get your Flint rocks ? My late father used to shoot flintlock shotguns and he made his own gun flints. I think he got his flint rocks from around Elizabethtown KY but I do not know the exact place. Wanting to pick up the skill myself now.
I get almost all my rock at the knap-in that is held near my home in Western new York State.
Great video. For the life of me I can figure it out haha. I recently bought "18th century surplus" English black flints. 100 of them. All of them gun flints They are all dull and i made your file anvil and hammer but all i can seem to do is bust all the edges into rounded ones. I've tried brass rod knapping as well. What advice can you give?
The upper half of the file that I attached to the handle has downward beveled edges at about a 45% angle. I lay the flint flat on the anvil part of the file and strike sharply downward with the beveled hammer causing a flake or chip to come off sharply underneath. Does that make sense, I hope it helps, Good Luck!
I just had to revisit this one, some really great information
87? Please don't tease me, haha. It has been ridiculously cold and damp here for the last 3 days. I'm glad you got to see exactly how I do this, pretty easy to do other than making the blade core. That takes a little practice and a good understanding of basic flintknapping. Good luck and pm me if you have any other questions.
no but i do hunt with a percussion smokepole, thanks for the offer though. im still trying to get that display case finished. thanks buddy...SPM
That’s an amazing video. Thank you for putting this one together.
These can be a real money maker if you go to a Primitive rendezvous and set up your stuff and start making them. I've heard some guys get at least a dollar a flint. I've never sold any, I usually just give them away or barter with them. Do you shoot a flintlock? (Smokepole?), if so, I'll send some to you with that Snyders point I'll be sending your way.
Excellent video Ken
Thanks Jim, do you shoot a flintlock?, if so and you ever need flints let me know and I can make a few for you while you wait.
Paleoman52 I do Ken and I will take you up on that
Thank you! I need to find LARG Materials, I think I could enjoy the heck out of this craft!
Any recomendations on getting my hands on stones this large out west?
I just fabricated my flint knapping brass stepped punch out of an old torch nozzle.
There are some really good knapping stones in Texas. These stones make excellent gunflints. Some are found in the Pederneles River, there is also Edwards Plateau chert and Georgetown chert.
@@Paleoman52
Found some! On the way!
Thank you for a very good educational video on making flints.
I live in eastern Ontario, and have not much luck in finding any flint nodules.
I'll keep looking!
What are you using for an anvil......an old file perhaps??
Hi Fred, thanks for watching this video I shot a ew years ago. I really need to do an updated version sometime. Yes, I used an old file for the anvil part in the wood and the other half I brazed onto a handle for my hammer. I have heard that some folks up your way have found ship ballast flint along areas where the boats from England would dump their ballast load to take on their shipment. You might want to check around and see if anyone knows about that. Those flint nodules are the best as they are pure English flint.
Thanks so much! Very informative and satisfied my gunflint making curiosity. Putting a link to your video on my Charleville Firing and Cleaning webpage.
What I think is that I need me one of them cuboom gun's. You there hard to get here in Australia, even the blockpowder you've got to order it . Sold by the kilo here not cheap either. Great video bud . Great stuff mate
I can't find the first video question what is the anvil made out of.thanks great video.
I made the hammer and anvil out of a file that I snapped in two. The bottom part with the handle tang is the anvil and the other piece I brazed onto a handle. So all you need is an old file.
@@Paleoman52 thanks I live close to burke co.ga. and chirt is every were along the savannah river I will be working on this thanks.
@@martysims5009 I have worked some of that stone and I really like it. It should work good for you.
@@Paleoman52 thanks I will let you know how it turns out.
@@martysims5009 I'll look forward to hearing from you! :)
WOW!!!! Thank you for showing how a gun flint is made!!!! I haven't watched your first video but this one is the first one I have seen that actually shows how they are made. I am not a knapper but am a black powder pistol target shooter and have a flint pistol as part of a treo of pistols I have shot in matches. I have considered taking up the art of knapping just to learn how to make my own supply of gun flints. Did you make the hammer you were using yourself?
Thanks for the details! Love the snow.......it's been 87 here the last 2 days.......
great video, where can I get raw flint like the big pieces you’re using?
There are several guys that sell good material out there. I get these Hornstone nodules from a fellow named Eris Morris. I think you can find him under the name Eric's Rocks. Tell him Ken Wallace sent you and he'll take good care of you. Another fellow that is a really great guy to do business with is Craig Ratzat and he has a website you can visit and get some contact info from it Go to Neolithics.com and once again tell him I sent you. Good Luck!
thank you
Where can I get the horn stone flint to try this? Also, why do you use a moose horn instead of a chisel or some other device? I have access to whitetail and Elk Antlers, would they work?
These are all good questions, I'll do my best to answer them. I was getting the hornstone material from a fellow at our local knap-in, his contact info is Eric's rocks, google that to contact him. I use moose antler because that is basically what I use as a flintknapper. Many folks use antler with an indirect percussion method by punching flakes off a core. I use direct percussion as that is something I am very familiar with. Whitetail and Elk antler doesn't work as well as those antlers aren't as dense as Moose antler.
Thanks so much for taking the time to show this skill!
Thanks for watching Jack! I hope that you found this information helpful.
Where do you find the flint rocks? I live in Maryland and I’ve not seen rocks like that. Plenty of sandstone, but no flint.
I get most of my rocks at a knap-in that is held every year near my home in Western New York state. One of the best on line places I have used is neolithics.com. Craig Ratzat is the owner and a heck of a nice guy. About the best prices and deals out there.
Awesome! Thanks for the info Paleoman! I'll check around my area to see what's going on.
Cool. I wondered how those were made. Thanks for showing this.
Nice! You call that "hornstone"? Where are you located geographically? I dont think that resource is available in NC where I am.
SUBBED!
I live in Western New York state. I get that material from a friend in Indiana. (Eric's Rocks & Such)
@@Paleoman52 does he have a webpage?
@@30CalCoreLokt Here is his phone # (812) 739-2358 this # was also suggested (812) 968-4615
Haha! I'll keep the BandAids handy! Where do you buy your knapping supplies? If I may ask.
Thanks for checking out this video! I love chipping out these gunflints from time to time, it's a nice break from arrowhead/knife making once in a while. Good luck when you give knapping a try, there are 2 things you'll need, lots of patience and lots of Band-aids, haha!
Impressive, good job
yes much better!!! Like the angles Good work! very interesting!!
Question on the hammer you made from the snapped file. did you dress the edges of it to be flat or do they have a bevel in one direction or the other. Also what did you use for a handle and how did you attach it to that file hammer? By the way the view from this side was night and day better than the view in the first one.
Thanks!
I beveled both ends at a 45 degree angle. The direction of the bevel is toward the handle. I had an old handle with a round rod inserted into it that I brazed the the file onto. I couldn't weld the file steel so I chose to braze it. I should delete that first video as it doesn't really give you a good view of what I am doing. Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot. It looks just like the hammers I saw in a 1940's video of flints being made in England. I think I can make one of those too. Good to know you can braze it onto the file as I don't have a welder. Thanks again for a great video!
Missed the first vid on this subject,but I'm glad I didn't miss this one!
I think you solved a mystery for me....I believe I've found one of those gunflints in afield I used to hunt.....looks just like one....cool vid bud,neat stuff!!
Thank you! This video was very helpful.
Where would be a good place to pick up flint core's from?
Check with Eric's Rocks out of Indiana. He has some nice hornstone nodules that work great for making blades from.
Yeah that was more helpful, I could see better. I have loads of flint rock in my garden so now I will try to make a gun flint.
Thank you for posting these knapping videos, I've learned quite a bit from watching them.
Im in Nevada and chert is about all we have available. Damn near impossible to get a flake its very hard material. Upside is they spark well and last.
cool to see you making gun flints.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Very good video!
We call them a "cock", not the hammer on a flinter out here on the West Coast. And way cool. Always wondered how it was done. Thanks for this second shot. Looking at your elbow on the first one was frustrating. ;) Have to try napping a tad. Think I still have some obsidian I can play with.
Paleoman52, where do you get you flint and what kind of flint is it?
I usually get most of my flint at a local gathering of flintknappers that is held every year in Letchworth State Park. I use a variety of flints to make gunflints, Onondaga chert is my local material and works really good. Another favorite stone for me to use is hornstone. Traditionally flint from England and France was used and can still be obtained.
That's great, Ill give it a try. Just need to find the antler here in Merry old England
Paul
Great video ! I learn something here thanks!
This is cool! I always thought gun flints were made using magic..... :)
WOW..you make that look easy. Thanks for sharing……..
Thanks for watching Sandy, I hope you found this video helpful. I didn't have a really good camera then so the video quality wasn't real good
this is wonderful!
Where, on the internet, do you find those huge hunks of flint?
I was getting those from a guy (Eric's Rocks) that came to a local knapping gathering we have every year. He came from Indiana and brought those with him. You could try contacting Craig Ratzat at neolithics.com to see if he had some chunks of Hornstone.
@@Paleoman52 Thank you, for the quick reply to a comment on an eight year old video.
Super video. Respect
Amazing, thanks for sharing your skills
Semper Fi
Wow! Exactly what I was looking for
Where do you get your hornstone?
I was getting that Hornstone from a fellow that goes by Erics Rocks. but I'm not sure if he is selling it anymore. I find that good Texas flint makes great gunflints also.
Thank you for the lesson! :)
Thanks for the new view!
Very cool!
Much much better video!!!!!
wow, awesome
THANKS !
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Do u sell flint
I don't sell any because I have to purchase most of the rock I use. I used to quarry my own Onondaga chert but That source is no longer available. A good source of rock for making gunflints is Eric's rocks. He can be found on line.
I'll be sure to post a vid.... :-)
Where did you get your core pieces?
I made it. I used a piece of Hornstone. I have been a flintknapper for about 32 years and making blade cores is all part of learning to flintknap. You have inspired me to make a video sometime soon about making a blade core. Once it gets a little warmer I'll try to shoot a video.
Much better!
awesome, thanks! bf
A few questions for you.. PM sent.
I'll be sure to get back with you and hopefully answer your questions! Thanks for watching.
Ok.. thanks. I appreciate it.
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