It is absolutely the worst “re-roll.” At one time when I was trying to re-roll for a blessing stone, I got the same exact one 3 damn times in a row. I feel your pain, Payne 🤭🤦🏻♂️
I got a legendary rune one I already had. Used 1k to reroll it I got one I already had. I rerolled again and got another one I already had. Guess what I had only 5 legendary runes so how'd I get 2 outta 5 I already had again
I have a suggestion, they can make the process like if we get a dupe of any legendary then when we go to crafting we not get any more dupes, we get any random legendary that is left for us.
Honestly I'm surprised that everyone is just noticing this. I literally never spend my gems on ANYTHING besides featured summons. This game is very giving and we have gotten ALOT to help us out. So I just wait. At this point I have enough to be able to tackle most everything besides whale content. It's all about patience.
They can also just do like.. if we had a legendary one atleast for the crafting purpose.. that skill or blessing stone which we already possess shouldn't be in the list.. simple 😅
the reroll dups has been okay for me. My only concern has been getting rares though, not specific rares. I find there needs to be a roll guarantee that doesn't reset until rare is achieved, even if the growth is super slow.
Payne they could also do an elemental re-roll system. Where you pick the element skill you want and it has wayyyy less skills in the pool that could be selected. So they still get their rng aspect in it and we have a much higher chance to win.
@PayneBlade Sad but true. Learned my lesson in order to save just hoard the rune and blessing fragments, fuse then clinch your butt hoping you get what you need.
Ah I knew this day would come eventually. Welcome to the whale problems we have been dealing with since June F2P players this is where the true gambling and gacha sink is in this game. I do like your solution to it Payne but idk how they would implement it since so many people have already sunk so much (Non dropping 250k essence is INSANE!). Also it will depend on if the Korean playerbase riots about this but I haven't heard much from them yet on this issue lol
Lol they love to spend bro! I swear when this first came out I was like oh shit... This gonna be that one chick that gonna suck ur soul out and u keep going back for more but u can't satisfy her. Here we are. She still wants more!
Also the XP collection in gates was fixed before Thomas I think for like 2/3 days but they went to manual collection which is annoying...They can try to make it so that when you complete all 3, it automatically gets claimed...it's an annoying chore and kinda pisses me off
Or they can simply change it to an unowned blessing/skill instead of getting a random one which includes the ones you already have. So we could fill it up eventually.
I spent 6k essence stones for some skill that I never use. I think they should remove the skills/blessings stones that we have and leave the ones we don't have.
Def felt the pain of this process. I think i was lucky spending less yhe 100k essence stones to get most of the skills. I agree that there should be a pity selection rework or something
I once fused a dupe of kandiru’s blessing and had to spend 3k ES to get something new because 2 of those tries i got kandiru’s blessing again. The new blessing i got was sharp perception. I genuinely would rather use 2-3 legendaries to reroll into another
I've blocked that part of my life rerolling for magnifying slashes. Here we are bringing it up to the surface. Literally had one last legendary skill rune left to unlock and it had to be the magnifying slashes and 230k essence later....@Payneblade, show'em the photos no one will believe this is a real story
4:37 or at the very least, make it like a custom draw, if they really didnt want us to get what we want very easy, bcs nm love to see the player get fkd up😂
They dont need *another* way to drain essence stones or cash from people. They've got 3 premium battle passes, 2 premium subscriptions, cosmetics, and a shop full of stuff to buy.
payne im searching for mag slashes since the day it came out. i own 175/180 runes and i still miss both legendary dark and fire. spent a lot of money to the point i dont wanna spend anymore lol. this game hates me
I am f2p and i wasted 15k plus essence stones on re-roll of blessing stones and ruins. I keep getting the same dupe over and over again and finally when i got i got worst one
I haven't pulled a single copy of obtained legendary yet so good for me i guess. They do need to change something. Someone definitely commented this but Removing the already obtained therefore reducing the rng is not a good move in the long run (not sure, maybe) There is no point in having a lot of blessing powder if we do that.
Each time i get a legendary stone & i have to reroll it! I have to use at least 5-7k essence stone to get new one! Last but not the least, like i have over 20 legendary blessing stones & i still not able to get 2 ones i'm needing ! Bloodlust & pulvryse
i would be more happy if they cuz put the right cost like 2000 or 3000 essence stones but i can choose the skill / blessing stone what we want like they do if we want to open the next slot in armory
At least ya'll have Sonic Stream. As a newer player - I don't even have Sonic Stream available as a skill (there's a skill called Dagger Rush in its place). I wonder if it was removed recently?
Perhaps they should change the recrafting for legendary skills/stones to be with Proof of the strong tokens from WOBL. It would be amazing way for veteran players to get legendaries more comfortably whilst also not being too restrictive/only for whales. Anyone can get it as long as they can clear a few levels of PoS- it’s just that whales can get more if they just do higher tiers for PoS and get more tickets 🤷 Edit: 1000 tokens for a recrafting ticket sounds like a decent amount- as even though it is less than a guaranteed heroic from the shop, it still is a ‘chance’ to get what you want.
im a low spender and it hurts so much to spend essence on reroll. i think the total essence i spent on reroll is around 10k. i think they should lower it to around 500 essence and after rerolling after 10-20th reroll it should give a 100% chance to select a skill/blessings you want also for gems i hope you can combine the legendary sacrifice 2gems to get 1random gem
Increased rates + pity would help mid-game players to get what they want. But I was thinking they should only give you blessing stones you have NOT received yet instead of re-rolling until you get what you want. The moment I saw the system I knew many whales would get completely screwed over by the system. The gem systems are bad enough with 10-20x better rates and I'm still getting fucked. Imagine trying to re-roll until you get what you want at that rate.
I got around 5 skills and stone legendaries that i haven't rerolled due to not using essence on this system, change it to gold and I'll use this system..
i have 3 legendr. runes and 3 legendr. blessings(dont count the one from selector) and i had to reroll 3times, funny enough 2 times by the runes, that should say everything you need to know about that rigged system. there are 52 legndr. runes alone, instead getting a new one, i always get the very same runes, makes zero sense and blessings also are quiet a lot, and here i am rerolling one legenr. rune/blessing after another, despite the fact that i still have to unlock 96% of them.....
Can you make a simple guide on SJW, best blessing stones,skills, artifacts and cores for most content ? I have come back and I am struggling to work this stuff out I saw your videos on artifact ranking but i dont understand it.
@@PayneBlade Thank you so much, One member in the discord told me to change a set and the difference was insane. i cant wait to finally unlock the hidden strength
they forgot to add that blessing stone that consumes your mana when you(sjw) take dmg instead of hp?? Wouldn't that be perfect with desire? and what is the reason they didnt put that blessing stone.... they even talked about that blessing stone in LIVE STREAM
couldnt agree more with this. just recently had to reroll twice myself as well just to end up with another useless shitty blessing stone. the custom rateup solution u mentioned really sounds like the way to go for this
Ngl I don't think it should cost essence stones at all. As F2P players we of course have the option to spend essence stones on stuff other than draws, but I don't think we should feel obligated to do so by having duplicate legendaries just sitting there. If it was a guarantee that we could get what we want it would be tolerable, but as long as there's ANY rng involved, it shouldn't cost essence stones imo.
Fused over 10k + in batches of 5K , multiple times post updates ,blessing and skill runes, got around 2-4 legendary only fkn 15k + in just whole batches, and those skills Nd blessings stones too shit as hell , complete utter shit, at least if one fails 5 times give a guaranted legendary I'm getting legendary in like 8-10 pity , so much waste so much waste
It cost me 22k essence to reroll 2 dupes BS. And I'm f2p. I was rerolling since before thomas release. It is a great loss tbh. Well, atleast I got the leg intuit. Still a loss tbh.
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Time this changes man. Its horrible for all players!
True 😢
Totally agree! Same for gems and artifacts too. High time they give guaranteed stats and rerolling options there too!
Gems too the rates are diabolical
Skill fusion isn’t any good either. 50/50 makes more sense. Especially for long time players. Make it a reward for folks who are higher tiered.
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Yeah, I'm sick of getting mp gems and have no way to use them to even craft another one
I'd love to be able to reroll or refuse gems tbh
When they gonna implement the reroll feature for the gems tho. My rng suuuuuckss
It is absolutely the worst “re-roll.” At one time when I was trying to re-roll for a blessing stone, I got the same exact one 3 damn times in a row. I feel your pain, Payne 🤭🤦🏻♂️
I HAD THAT EXACT SAME SCENARIO. I spent 3K essence just to get a random ah skill rune after three dupes 🫠
Wait until you spend 250k+ essence to reroll then complain
@@AzuwOm Your right. 250k is insane to just aim for just one legendary blessing/skill xd
I got a legendary rune one I already had. Used 1k to reroll it I got one I already had. I rerolled again and got another one I already had. Guess what I had only 5 legendary runes so how'd I get 2 outta 5 I already had again
@@AzuwOm 250k for a reroll is more like youre dumb ngl lol 10k and i drew the line already.
I have a suggestion, they can make the process like if we get a dupe of any legendary then when we go to crafting we not get any more dupes, we get any random legendary that is left for us.
Getting directly what we want is I think will not be possible for the game, instead they can do like we always get new random one from crafting
Instead of 1k essence make it 100k gold.. problem solved :)
or 1M gold
@@Ghost_Satseven 1m is much better than 1k es, to me personally😅
I meant 1M gold 😅
@@Ghost_Sats yes
I dont think 1m is good. 500k kinda better for all
Honestly I'm surprised that everyone is just noticing this. I literally never spend my gems on ANYTHING besides featured summons. This game is very giving and we have gotten ALOT to help us out. So I just wait. At this point I have enough to be able to tackle most everything besides whale content. It's all about patience.
I 100 percent agree with payne it should not take so much to get what you are looking for fix it please.
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@@CarlosRodriguez-un6br the only way they fix this without pissing off all the whales is by refunding their essence and then reworking the system
It's better they remove what you already have that way the org still exists but still guaranteed to get a new one every time
They are just lazy and greedy sadly
They can also just do like.. if we had a legendary one atleast for the crafting purpose.. that skill or blessing stone which we already possess shouldn't be in the list.. simple 😅
the reroll dups has been okay for me. My only concern has been getting rares though, not specific rares. I find there needs to be a roll guarantee that doesn't reset until rare is achieved, even if the growth is super slow.
Nice for pointing this one out
Payne they could also do an elemental re-roll system. Where you pick the element skill you want and it has wayyyy less skills in the pool that could be selected. So they still get their rng aspect in it and we have a much higher chance to win.
i agree with payne i never used this as f2p but i can see what kind of suffer people have to endure so yeah a change of how it works is welcomed
Spent on average 150k essence stones to get my desired Legendary rune. It was painful. So total to get 3 was 450k.
Ermagawd
@PayneBlade Sad but true. Learned my lesson in order to save just hoard the rune and blessing fragments, fuse then clinch your butt hoping you get what you need.
Thanks for mentioning it. Ludicrous having to spent more than 25k each time new skills and runes come, and not even get them
I'm with you Payneblade it's time for a big change. And soon
You've been getting some mileage out of Jinwoo Middle Finger scene😂😂😂😂 can't wait until it's animated. And yes, I freaking hate this feature
Lolol it has a lot of ways to express itself
Easy solution, refund everyone their essence spent on rerolling, then rework it
Ah I knew this day would come eventually. Welcome to the whale problems we have been dealing with since June F2P players this is where the true gambling and gacha sink is in this game. I do like your solution to it Payne but idk how they would implement it since so many people have already sunk so much (Non dropping 250k essence is INSANE!).
Also it will depend on if the Korean playerbase riots about this but I haven't heard much from them yet on this issue lol
Lol they love to spend bro! I swear when this first came out I was like oh shit... This gonna be that one chick that gonna suck ur soul out and u keep going back for more but u can't satisfy her. Here we are. She still wants more!
@@PayneBladeayooo I’m crying laughing 😭😭😭😭😭😭💯
Melt legendary dupes into a currency
That currency can be used to buy legendary rune/blessing stones selector
Would love to see feature like this
Also the XP collection in gates was fixed before Thomas I think for like 2/3 days but they went to manual collection which is annoying...They can try to make it so that when you complete all 3, it automatically gets claimed...it's an annoying chore and kinda pisses me off
Or they can simply change it to an unowned blessing/skill instead of getting a random one which includes the ones you already have.
So we could fill it up eventually.
I agree. Did this just to get the same rune- not once but twice
also they haven't considered the penta gems, i have some for speed and they are just collecting dust in inventory
I spent 6k essence stones for some skill that I never use. I think they should remove the skills/blessings stones that we have and leave the ones we don't have.
Finally somebody is talking about
Great idea as I never have enough essence stones to even dare try to do any of this
The rerolling system is the worst, so much wasted essence
And arty chips. Lol rolling for stat + be driving me crazy. My luck horrible
Def felt the pain of this process. I think i was lucky spending less yhe 100k essence stones to get most of the skills. I agree that there should be a pity selection rework or something
Completely agreed fusion system needs a revamp!!
I once fused a dupe of kandiru’s blessing and had to spend 3k ES to get something new because 2 of those tries i got kandiru’s blessing again. The new blessing i got was sharp perception. I genuinely would rather use 2-3 legendaries to reroll into another
gladly it went well for me today and i only had to use 4k and got weakness detection and intuition
I've blocked that part of my life rerolling for magnifying slashes. Here we are bringing it up to the surface. Literally had one last legendary skill rune left to unlock and it had to be the magnifying slashes and 230k essence later....@Payneblade, show'em the photos no one will believe this is a real story
Lol sorry for bringing up those sad times. I think that's gotta be by far the worst thing I've seen happen to anyone. U deserve a refund!
4:37 or at the very least, make it like a custom draw, if they really didnt want us to get what we want very easy, bcs nm love to see the player get fkd up😂
Agreeable nice one payne
payne you should make a video about - presets - its so painful to keep switching gear for diffrent game modes
JJK caught a stray😂
Sadly 2 times I get a copy of a blessing that i already had, and both times took me 4 reroll to get a new one, and i only have half of it legendary
They dont need *another* way to drain essence stones or cash from people. They've got 3 premium battle passes, 2 premium subscriptions, cosmetics, and a shop full of stuff to buy.
Funny as an FTP the first legendary skill I owned was magnifying slash....lol
Just spend 5k essence today rerolling stones and they were all the same dupes lovely
It only happened to me once but I got daily quest completion back to back to then the one that boosts your HP by 16%
payne im searching for mag slashes since the day it came out. i own 175/180 runes and i still miss both legendary dark and fire. spent a lot of money to the point i dont wanna spend anymore lol. this game hates me
I feel you bro. It's such a shit system
I am f2p and i wasted 15k plus essence stones on re-roll of blessing stones and ruins. I keep getting the same dupe over and over again and finally when i got i got worst one
As a casual player, I am not really stressed on blessing stones and runes but for competitive players it sounds like it needs a rework
My first legendary skill was magnifying slashes💀💀
yesterday i got the same legendary skill 5 times in a row from rerolling and lost all my remaining essenses
Yeah man they need to change this or buff the stone we want to by choosing them and the skill we want with higher rate or something
I haven't pulled a single copy of obtained legendary yet so good for me i guess.
They do need to change something.
Someone definitely commented this but
Removing the already obtained therefore reducing the rng is not a good move in the long run (not sure, maybe)
There is no point in having a lot of blessing powder if we do that.
Each time i get a legendary stone & i have to reroll it! I have to use at least 5-7k essence stone to get new one! Last but not the least, like i have over 20 legendary blessing stones & i still not able to get 2 ones i'm needing ! Bloodlust & pulvryse
Payne, Daily Draw Event is back
personally i think it should be 2k to re-roll but it guarantees to drop a legendary that you dont have as long as you have the epic version for it
The thumbnail are the best
Should make a craft were you can pick out one and it cost more and random is cheaper
Let's take our baldy to 100k guys
i want this for artifacts there so many that we get when we try to get just one or two specific ones
got 2 leg blessings.. took 8k to get 2 i didnt have and def rerolled the same thing multiple times
there should be dup protecction so you never get one you got before as you're paying 1k essence that's a week of thropies
Literally had to spend 60k trying to get intuit, (already had legendaries for everything else) even after 60K, got the others not intuit lol
i would be more happy if they cuz put the right cost like 2000 or 3000 essence stones but i can choose the skill / blessing stone what we want like they do if we want to open the next slot in armory
I spent almost 100k essence for magnifying slashes too
Hopefully we see some changes 🙏
you know what really sucks? rolling a stone/blessing into the same one. yea pitty for this would be welcome.
At least ya'll have Sonic Stream. As a newer player - I don't even have Sonic Stream available as a skill (there's a skill called Dagger Rush in its place). I wonder if it was removed recently?
It's there. U just haven't been lucky
@@PayneBladeYou're right. I finally got it unlocked. Can't believe it took me this long.
as a f2p, i lost 10k to blessing re-crafting
Rolling a dupe should give back 500 stones
Perhaps they should change the recrafting for legendary skills/stones to be with Proof of the strong tokens from WOBL. It would be amazing way for veteran players to get legendaries more comfortably whilst also not being too restrictive/only for whales. Anyone can get it as long as they can clear a few levels of PoS- it’s just that whales can get more if they just do higher tiers for PoS and get more tickets 🤷
Edit: 1000 tokens for a recrafting ticket sounds like a decent amount- as even though it is less than a guaranteed heroic from the shop, it still is a ‘chance’ to get what you want.
im a low spender and it hurts so much to spend essence on reroll. i think the total essence i spent on reroll is around 10k.
i think they should lower it to around 500 essence and after rerolling after 10-20th reroll it should give a 100% chance to select a skill/blessings you want
also for gems i hope you can combine the legendary sacrifice 2gems to get 1random gem
Increased rates + pity would help mid-game players to get what they want. But I was thinking they should only give you blessing stones you have NOT received yet instead of re-rolling until you get what you want. The moment I saw the system I knew many whales would get completely screwed over by the system. The gem systems are bad enough with 10-20x better rates and I'm still getting fucked. Imagine trying to re-roll until you get what you want at that rate.
I spent so much gems. Reroll and got the same damn thing
I got around 5 skills and stone legendaries that i haven't rerolled due to not using essence on this system, change it to gold and I'll use this system..
I like that idea because it still has the gacha aspect. What is your opinion on the challenge medals?
Let’s go , just supporting comment :))
Fusion rates are the worst whether runes blessing stones or gems
I think it should be 10 chances and then you recieve a legendary you dont own.
I have a option for a free blessing stone which one should I shoes
i have 3 legendr. runes and 3 legendr. blessings(dont count the one from selector) and i had to reroll 3times, funny enough 2 times by the runes, that should say everything you need to know about that rigged system.
there are 52 legndr. runes alone, instead getting a new one, i always get the very same runes, makes zero sense and blessings also are quiet a lot, and here i am rerolling one legenr. rune/blessing after another, despite the fact that i still have to unlock 96% of them.....
Yep, I just stop trying to get them honestly
hey pain can you do a guide on battle trophies many are trying to get to the ranks but some star ratings seem really confuse.
Bro make a video on how to clear chrimas goblin bomb one too hard for me
i have a dupe of reawakening. and im too low on ES plus afraid of rng becuase i want bloodlust thtas what im missing
As a full F2P who has done 5 rerolls on blessing stones and skills, I hate this mechanic with passion
Payne I'm SUPER LOW on essence any way I could get more?
Can you make a simple guide on SJW, best blessing stones,skills, artifacts and cores for most content ? I have come back and I am struggling to work this stuff out I saw your videos on artifact ranking but i dont understand it.
Yea I can
@@PayneBlade Thank you so much, One member in the discord told me to change a set and the difference was insane. i cant wait to finally unlock the hidden strength
This hasnt been an issue for me yet, but it should be changed before it affects even more players.
over 200k essence spended still dont have leg MS :[
they forgot to add that blessing stone that consumes your mana when you(sjw) take dmg instead of hp??
Wouldn't that be perfect with desire?
and what is the reason they didnt put that blessing stone....
they even talked about that blessing stone in LIVE STREAM
I still say that's too predatory. Stuff you already have maxed out just remove em from the pool, but that's wishful thinking.
I uninstalled yesterday, lemme know once its done optimization
couldnt agree more with this. just recently had to reroll twice myself as well just to end up with another useless shitty blessing stone. the custom rateup solution u mentioned really sounds like the way to go for this
100% agree
Tbh its like they chose the worst possible system for coz the variations they could have did are too many that would have easier on players
It's fucked up.... I had to use 6-7k stone on this as a f2p even though I only have 3-4 legendary skill and blessing stone
Ngl I don't think it should cost essence stones at all. As F2P players we of course have the option to spend essence stones on stuff other than draws, but I don't think we should feel obligated to do so by having duplicate legendaries just sitting there. If it was a guarantee that we could get what we want it would be tolerable, but as long as there's ANY rng involved, it shouldn't cost essence stones imo.
Can't agree more
simple fix = dont get duplicates and im fine with the system
Fused over 10k + in batches of 5K , multiple times post updates ,blessing and skill runes, got around 2-4 legendary only fkn 15k + in just whole batches, and those skills Nd blessings stones too shit as hell , complete utter shit, at least if one fails 5 times give a guaranted legendary I'm getting legendary in like 8-10 pity , so much waste so much waste
or you get from the pool of skills/runes you dont have.
It cost me 22k essence to reroll 2 dupes BS. And I'm f2p. I was rerolling since before thomas release. It is a great loss tbh. Well, atleast I got the leg intuit. Still a loss tbh.