@@thatpersonyoudontknow4509technically that is what it means, plus it's a pretty accurate paraphrase of what she said whilst referencing a common saying
While nearly everyone responds with “Let’s leave these (whatever they call them)” while trying to talk to the KO’d shadows, Vivian is different and actually apologizes to them afterwards.
Me as Mario would agree with the others and say “We still need to track down Grodus.”, whereas with Vivian, I would say “I feel sorry for them too, Vivian. But we need to save our apologies for when defeat Grodus. C’mon, let’s-a get-a going”
11:12 In the French version, Flurrie says to leave behind these "gibiers de potence". This is an expression used to refer to a character so dishonest they deserve a guilty sentence-- some outlets say it can even refer to saying they deserve a death penalty, even. Which, damn, French Flurrie *really* didn't mince words. "louts" doesn't hit anywhere near as hard.
i mean even if i could be exploited by something as simple as someone saying my name, the only instance id tell someone my actual name is when they start calling me mean stuff
Picture a Chomp partner who often makes food-related comments or comments on how he's going to eat someone he doesn't like -- usually an enemy they're about to fight. In this case, right before the fight against the Shadows, he comments, "Ah, nice! I was hoping to snack on a hag popsicle! Let's eat!"
@@andimack. 1. Chain Crash: Swings on his chain and slams into an enemy for 4 damage at base. 2. Guard Dog: Draws in enemy attacks for 2 turns and boost his defense, but only for the first. 3. Hangry Assault: Continuously chomps an enemy and gains one hp per hit landed. 4. Wreaking Ball: Charges into all enemies ignoring defenses and restoring two hp per enemy.
As much as it feels satisfying for Vivian to get back at Beldam for her bullshit, I really don't like how Vivian is apologetic to Beldam after the latter was beaten since Beldam still verbally abused AND gaslit Vivian into feeling terrible. Vivian did state that she didn't want to stay with her family any longer and wanted instead to continue traveling Mario, so what I instead think Vivian should say is here at 6:36 is, "...Come on, Mario. Let's go." It would show that Vivian is much happier traveling than Mario and that Vivian wants nothing to do with Beldam anymore.
I feel like at the very least, she could've given us some better insight on Marilyn by apologizing to her instead of to Beldam (who was very clearly the abuser in the relationship). Even Goombella implies that Marilyn might not actually be bad, just a follower (and kind of another victim, given some of Beldam's lines). I don't mind Vivian wanting to apologize because she's a kind person in the first place and still considers them family... but no way in HELL does BELDAM deserves that apology when ALL she's done is berate Vivian and punish BOTH of her sisters for the slightest failure.
@@Loner098 I agree, I feel like even if they wanted to keep the approach of Vivian being too nice not to give her sisters a second chance, it at least needs to be changed so that Beldam has no choice but to comply in the first place; most likely because with Vivian now being the stronger of them, Marilyn can also likely stand up to the abuse. (That, and Beldam should live with the guilt that had she not been an absolute bitch, her plan would've gone exactly as planned)
Idea by @NottsAiry. If I were to be in TTYD for this scene, here’s what I could say. (Seeing Prof. Frankly) “Hang on. Why’re ’ya walkin’ ‘ere? (Bedlam saying we opened the door for them) “I’m pretty sure you just trespassed?!” (“Date for eternity”) “Okay at this point we are all tired of you. Come on. Let’s brawl it out!” (Once the sirens have been defeated) “Finally, now they’re gone. Not sorry dudes.” Not my idea btw you can have a shot at it.
Now that I'm thinking about it. 99.9% Chance the next GOOD Paper Mario game will be a Remake of the first 3, whether it be 64 (Which is already on the Switch as part of a Paid online service), TTYD (Again) or Super (Most Likely) So, if anything... I'd rather be in the remake of Super Paper Mario. and since I HIGHLY DOUBT they'll change the main story, the only chance is an easter-egg or superboss (Like Mush or Whacka from TTYD Remake) And since superboss is much cooler, let me go over all that. (SPOILER WARNING) Location: Castle Bleck Inner Sanctum (8-4), In the room where You fight Count Bleck & Super Dimentio Max HP: 1,000 Attack: 20 Defence: 3 Dialogue: "You're here again? Ah well, If you've come all this way again..." (I appear on screen) "We might as well spar. Good luck!" (Battle Begins) --- (Defeated) "Wow, You're good!" (Animation to fall to 1 knee) "If ya want to spar again, I'll be here!" (Leaving animation)
I'm pretty sure the partner does speak in all three parts of the "not final bosses" (meeting Grodus, defeating Grodus & meeting Bowser, defeating Bowser and noticing Grodus is missing). Whether it's important differences or not, idk. I really only saw one with Flurrie and two with the Yoshi Kid.
5:35 Vivian: I’m with Mario all the way! Today, sis… I’m going to punish YOU, you hear me?! The other Vivian mains: *positively responding the clap-back* Me: Look closely at your sister. She is the captain now.
(I know this will never happen but If I had dialogue, here's what I'd Say) (Seeing Professor Frankly) Wait, Hold on. Professor? What Brings you here? (Beldam saying we opened the door for them) Opening the door for you? I'm Pretty sure you waltzed on in here without OUR permission. ("Date With Eternity") You want to fight? We'll give ya one alright. Have at ye! (After the sirens are defeated) Let's leave these Donuts, Mario... If you wanna copy my idea, go ahead. Comments are open on this.
Here’s mine (Seeing Professor Frankly) Uhhh Professor? What are you doing here? (Beldam saying we opened the door for them) What do you mean we opened the door for you. Last I recall, you came uninvited. (“Date with eternity”) How many times must we teach you this lesson old ladies? En garde! (After the sirens are defeated) Let’s leave these jerks, Mario
Love the fact that Doopliss immediately becomes Beldams new punching bag
serves him right for everything in chapter 4😭🙏💯
I still can’t believe that after everything he did, the game actually managed to make me feel bad for him at this point-
@@n_0rdyI just bonked him 90 times as he was parading as Mario
Doovian 💀
Shows how Beldam is simply an as*hole with no cares about who they actually are.
Goombella literally said call an ambulance BUT NOT FOR US
And considering they just admitted to knocking out her professor, I'm here for it
That's not what "literally" means....
@@thatpersonyoudontknow4509technically that is what it means, plus it's a pretty accurate paraphrase of what she said whilst referencing a common saying
@@Gamebuilder2000 No, literally means that is what happened. Since she didn’t say that, don’t use literally.
She Roasted them really badly
I would always give Vivian the "honour" of defeating Beldam as a little payback for how she had been treated.
I gave Vivian the honor of finishing off the shadow queen
Same here
While nearly everyone responds with “Let’s leave these (whatever they call them)” while trying to talk to the KO’d shadows, Vivian is different and actually apologizes to them afterwards.
It would make sense for Vivian to say that since they're siblings. Vivian still care about them even Beldam overboard anger
But screw you, Doopliss.
Me as Mario would agree with the others and say “We still need to track down Grodus.”, whereas with Vivian, I would say “I feel sorry for them too, Vivian. But we need to save our apologies for when defeat Grodus. C’mon, let’s-a get-a going”
She still cares for her sisters
I feel like it's only natural to have Vivian out for these three so that she can get some revenge.
Yeah, that's what I did!
Same here
11:12 In the French version, Flurrie says to leave behind these "gibiers de potence".
This is an expression used to refer to a character so dishonest they deserve a guilty sentence-- some outlets say it can even refer to saying they deserve a death penalty, even. Which, damn, French Flurrie *really* didn't mince words. "louts" doesn't hit anywhere near as hard.
I like the fact that Doopliss went from trying to keep his name a secret from Mario to constantly reminding Beldam his name.
i mean even if i could be exploited by something as simple as someone saying my name, the only instance id tell someone my actual name is when they start calling me mean stuff
@@SundewTheGreatest-nk5wzgood point dude
Vivian part is my favorite because I love seeing her getting an opportunity to get back at Beldam for mistreating her.
6:11 Vivian: You literally just one-shot them! Mario: *HERE WE GOOOOOOO!*
Lol 😂
Vivian fits the most out all of them
Mario gave them the courage and strength to finally stand up to Beldam
I agree after for abused by her asshole sister. She finally has the courage to make sure she's punished for good
@@superpenguinzzzher*
@@mouthlesshater he said that because of the whole transgender thing with vivian
@@shawnfreshwater8557 probably, but the correct pronoun is still "her".
Picture a Chomp partner who often makes food-related comments or comments on how he's going to eat someone he doesn't like -- usually an enemy they're about to fight.
In this case, right before the fight against the Shadows, he comments, "Ah, nice! I was hoping to snack on a hag popsicle! Let's eat!"
What would he even do. Like imagine a chain chomp as a partner
@@andimack. Mario throws him like a bowling ball
@@andimack.
1. Chain Crash: Swings on his chain and slams into an enemy for 4 damage at base.
2. Guard Dog: Draws in enemy attacks for 2 turns and boost his defense, but only for the first.
3. Hangry Assault: Continuously chomps an enemy and gains one hp per hit landed.
4. Wreaking Ball: Charges into all enemies ignoring defenses and restoring two hp per enemy.
As much as it feels satisfying for Vivian to get back at Beldam for her bullshit, I really don't like how Vivian is apologetic to Beldam after the latter was beaten since Beldam still verbally abused AND gaslit Vivian into feeling terrible. Vivian did state that she didn't want to stay with her family any longer and wanted instead to continue traveling Mario, so what I instead think Vivian should say is here at 6:36 is, "...Come on, Mario. Let's go." It would show that Vivian is much happier traveling than Mario and that Vivian wants nothing to do with Beldam anymore.
Victims of emotional abuse tend to have complicated feelings towards their abusers, especially when they're family
@@THawkMedia What about the villains of Persona 5? Did the victims have any kind of complicated feelings towards their abusers?
I feel like at the very least, she could've given us some better insight on Marilyn by apologizing to her instead of to Beldam (who was very clearly the abuser in the relationship). Even Goombella implies that Marilyn might not actually be bad, just a follower (and kind of another victim, given some of Beldam's lines).
I don't mind Vivian wanting to apologize because she's a kind person in the first place and still considers them family... but no way in HELL does BELDAM deserves that apology when ALL she's done is berate Vivian and punish BOTH of her sisters for the slightest failure.
@@extremmefan7305 And this is exactly why I hated Vivian's epilogue resolution.
@@Loner098 I agree, I feel like even if they wanted to keep the approach of Vivian being too nice not to give her sisters a second chance, it at least needs to be changed so that Beldam has no choice but to comply in the first place; most likely because with Vivian now being the stronger of them, Marilyn can also likely stand up to the abuse.
(That, and Beldam should live with the guilt that had she not been an absolute bitch, her plan would've gone exactly as planned)
12:09
Coops character development
Dude is ready to throw hands😂
Yes he is definitely lol 😂
Idea by @NottsAiry.
If I were to be in TTYD for this scene, here’s what I could say.
(Seeing Prof. Frankly)
“Hang on. Why’re ’ya walkin’ ‘ere?
(Bedlam saying we opened the door for them)
“I’m pretty sure you just trespassed?!”
(“Date for eternity”)
“Okay at this point we are all tired of you. Come on. Let’s brawl it out!”
(Once the sirens have been defeated)
“Finally, now they’re gone. Not sorry dudes.”
Not my idea btw you can have a shot at it.
Yea thanks for crediting me, even if you weren't able to mention me.
Its always nice when I see people use my Ideas.
@NottsAiry We need to break into Nintendo HQ and force them to make you a partner in the next Paper Mario game. 😤
@@evanhernandez2071 I like the sound of that brother.
ONWARD WE GO, TO THE ULTIMATE SHOW!
Now that I'm thinking about it.
99.9% Chance the next GOOD Paper Mario game will be a Remake of the first 3, whether it be 64 (Which is already on the Switch as part of a Paid online service), TTYD (Again) or Super (Most Likely)
So, if anything...
I'd rather be in the remake of Super Paper Mario. and since I HIGHLY DOUBT they'll change the main story, the only chance is an easter-egg or superboss (Like Mush or Whacka from TTYD Remake)
And since superboss is much cooler, let me go over all that.
(SPOILER WARNING)
Location: Castle Bleck Inner Sanctum (8-4), In the room where You fight Count Bleck & Super Dimentio
Max HP: 1,000
Attack: 20
Defence: 3
Dialogue:
"You're here again? Ah well, If you've come all this way again..."
(I appear on screen)
"We might as well spar. Good luck!"
(Battle Begins)
---
(Defeated)
"Wow, You're good!"
(Animation to fall to 1 knee)
"If ya want to spar again, I'll be here!"
(Leaving animation)
I’m not sure if there’s any unique dialogue with all partners vs Grodus and Bowser with Kammy. If not, then I guess the Shadow Queen is the final one.
I'm pretty sure the partner does speak in all three parts of the "not final bosses" (meeting Grodus, defeating Grodus & meeting Bowser, defeating Bowser and noticing Grodus is missing).
Whether it's important differences or not, idk. I really only saw one with Flurrie and two with the Yoshi Kid.
Everyone who mostly used Vivain for this cutscene and fight say I.
I
@train4292 I 🙋♂️
*Vivian not Vivain
He had on 40 Power Rushes
I always use vivian to fight her sisters.
5:35 Vivian: I’m with Mario all the way! Today, sis… I’m going to punish YOU, you hear me?! The other Vivian mains: *positively responding the clap-back* Me: Look closely at your sister. She is the captain now.
And what was that plan she was *yapping* about, huh?
This sounds bad... -Goombella
“PUN-ISH-MENT!!!”- the Deku King, The Legend of Zelda, Majora’s Mask
“That’s right, Slick! Eternity!” “Shut up Freak Sheet” “my name is Doopliss…”😂😂😂😂😂This interaction had me laughing so hard !
beldam speech bubble moment
Vivian is best betrayer.
how about smorg battle with all partners huh?
If I remember right I was testing it and there wasn't really enough interesting to justify it when at that part of the game.
@@MonFacts
Can you do all partners encountering and beating grubba? At the end of chapter 3 when they find the paper?
I would like to know what your badge set up is
Doopliss replaced Vivian
Is it not obvious?
And Beldam replaced transphobia with racism
@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 Took me a while to realize what you meant; That’s dark. if ykyk
GUUUUH 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️
-Marilyn 2024
(I know this will never happen but If I had dialogue, here's what I'd Say)
(Seeing Professor Frankly)
Wait, Hold on. Professor? What Brings you here?
(Beldam saying we opened the door for them)
Opening the door for you? I'm Pretty sure you waltzed on in here without OUR permission.
("Date With Eternity")
You want to fight? We'll give ya one alright. Have at ye!
(After the sirens are defeated)
Let's leave these Donuts, Mario...
If you wanna copy my idea, go ahead. Comments are open on this.
Here’s mine
(Seeing Professor Frankly)
Uhhh Professor? What are you doing here?
(Beldam saying we opened the door for them)
What do you mean we opened the door for you. Last I recall, you came uninvited.
(“Date with eternity”)
How many times must we teach you this lesson old ladies? En garde!
(After the sirens are defeated)
Let’s leave these jerks, Mario
what’s your build here?
One and done? Those lot are chumps.
5:38 Oh so that wasn't clickbait
You couldn't even put timestamps in for each of them or just SKIPS THE BATTLES EACH TIME? Why do you think people want to see ALL OF THIS?
Why you mad
@@ArcanePower1 BE QUIET NOW
@@theverybestyoutubeaccount but why though
@@ArcanePower1 roid rage
@@QuayeEPICGAMER I SUGGEST YOU TAKE YOUR HATEFUL COMMENT AND BACK AWAY
Am helnah dooplis is scared voor 😮💨
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