J.J. Abrams, Steven Spielberg, and the Multi-Beat Shot

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  • Опубліковано 9 бер 2022
  • When you think of the cinematography of a J.J. Abrams film, you probably think of one thing -- lens flares. And sure, that's an easy joke to make. But I want to dig deeper, and explore his use of camera movement and blocking to create multi-beat shots, while also looking back on the influence Steven Spielberg has on this style.
    Special thanks to Joseph Kahn for answering questions about this style and the terms he uses to describe them.
    Music: "Smooth and Cool" - Nico Staf
    For educational purposes only.
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  • @dreamlandnightmare
    @dreamlandnightmare Рік тому +18

    "The multi-beat" has always been one of my favorite aspects of Spielberg's style. It's so lyrical and fun to watch.

  • @GaryLawrenceTV
    @GaryLawrenceTV 3 дні тому

    Entertaining and educational video. I appreciate the time and thought that was put into this analysis. Great job!

  • @vraikorrigan
    @vraikorrigan Рік тому +12

    Not only Jean Renoir did MBS, but Max Ophüls, Otto Preminger, Kenji Mizoguchi, etc. Now, when Spielberg or Abrams do them, it's to make spectators drunk. That's why it's fast : we are supposed to be immersed in the action, whereas in the great classic cinema MBS had multiple meanings and were never intended to stun us. A wealth of meaning has been lost.

    • @vraikorrigan
      @vraikorrigan Рік тому +1

      @@freeusername "Just because something doesn't happen slowly it doesn't automatically mean it has any less meaning or subtext." I never said such a thing.

  • @asgads
    @asgads 10 місяців тому +16

    I can always tell what a great filmmaker jj abrams COULD be. he seems to be very good at working with actors and has his craft very well established. But he needs a way to actually resolve his "mystery boxes" and ideally get a script written for him

    • @Selrisitai
      @Selrisitai 9 місяців тому +3

      Watch Mission: Impossible III, a few clips from which are shown in this video. It's an _excellent_ movie with a solid script, excellent acting, phenomenal opening scene and tight pacing. Highly recommended.

  • @HeliosAnimation
    @HeliosAnimation 10 місяців тому +3

    Brad Bird is also a master of this type of shot

  • @GustavoBissoli
    @GustavoBissoli Місяць тому

    Great video, man! Nice job!

  • @derrickdd
    @derrickdd 16 днів тому +2

    You should start making videos again.

  • @jkapp374
    @jkapp374 6 місяців тому +4

    Awesome video- Thanks for featuring JJ's work on The Force Awakens... especially that seen with the "escape from jakku", which is my favorite Star Wars scene of any kind outside of the original trilogy... No JJ is NOT Speilberg (few are)..However his style definitely borrows from Spielberg's...George Lucas always said that he wanted to recruit Spielberg to direct Return to the Jedi...While we as Star Wars fans can always wonder what could have been, I think Force awakens is the closest thing we'll ever get to a Star Wars film directed by Spielberg

  • @FlavioColombini
    @FlavioColombini 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the great video!

  • @CINENIMUS
    @CINENIMUS 4 місяці тому

    pretty cool

  • @cliffpinchon2832
    @cliffpinchon2832 5 місяців тому +1

    No more uploads?

  • @CMessineo
    @CMessineo 2 роки тому

    Love this!

  • @Powersfilms
    @Powersfilms 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video essay.

  • @broadstrokespro
    @broadstrokespro 10 місяців тому

    5:27 har har

  • @scottgwild
    @scottgwild 2 роки тому +2

    Great breakdown, thanks for this!

  • @AdadWarda
    @AdadWarda 2 роки тому +20

    It’s funny, these “multi-beat” shots are clever, technically complex and, in and of themselves, cinematically pleasing. But, watching them, I find that I don’t like them. Unless used sparingly, they cheapen the scene because they don’t give your eye time to wander the image a bit and explore the environment to take it in. JJ Abrams’ specific use of it feels born out of a fear that the audience will get bored so he’s gotta keep things moving. Spielberg‘s use is better because it’s slower and less frequent. As an audience member, let me weigh in a little on how I want to interact with the scene before I get whiplash :) That being said, you did a good job laying it out and explaining it.

    • @vraikorrigan
      @vraikorrigan Рік тому +4

      Yes! Thank you. But it is not the essence of MBS to be that. When Spielberg or Abrams do them, it's to make spectators drunk. That's why it's fast : we are supposed to be immersed in the action. But in the great classic cinema (Renoir, Preminger, Mizoguchi) MBS took some time, had multiple meanings and were never intended to stun us. A wealth of meaning has been lost.

    • @Selrisitai
      @Selrisitai 9 місяців тому +2

      Me, I've never even noticed them-and I guess good camerawork won't call too much attention to itself. I think "allowing the viewer's eye to wander" is a technique in and of itself, and could also be the wrong shot for a moment.

  • @Genshi
    @Genshi 2 роки тому

    Nicely done video! Instant subscribe!

  • @mellowscorpio
    @mellowscorpio Рік тому

    Very clever! Thanks for sharing, I found it insightful and am glad you explored the pros and cons of choosing this approach

  • @morningcoffee1111
    @morningcoffee1111 2 роки тому

    Nice. Good thoughts and perspectives. You’ve collected another subscriber. One thought if I may: you’re background music was a bit distracting. The content is good, you don’t even need the music.

  • @OrenStambouli
    @OrenStambouli 2 роки тому

    Great video, keep it going. Looking forward to the next one

  • @Miniweet9167
    @Miniweet9167 5 місяців тому

    « Camera pans down with Finn. » No it doesn’t. It cranes down/ jibs down/ pedestals down. Pans are left and right nodal rotations. 1:36 multibeat shots mostly evolved from live television dramas where cuts were rare.

  • @howwemet1889
    @howwemet1889 2 роки тому

    Great vid!

  • @geoffmatera6933
    @geoffmatera6933 2 роки тому +3

    Terrific video! Really appreciate that you were able to find language for some of the different types of camera movements within a multi-beat shot. I look forward to your next video!

  • @jim1664
    @jim1664 2 роки тому

    Great explanation. Must be great to pull one of these off well.

  • @theroebuck123456789
    @theroebuck123456789 Місяць тому

    This the last element that prevents Stranger Things from becoming actually great

  • @rockon8174
    @rockon8174 2 роки тому

    Nice!!!

  • @yqprod
    @yqprod Рік тому

    Great video :)

  • @DeanAlioto
    @DeanAlioto 2 роки тому +7

    It's ironic that the first example of the multi-beat shot in this video essay was a "JJ Abrams shot", since JJ didn't shoot it -- Spielberg visited the set that day and filmed that very shot himself. Regardless, very insightful video!

    • @romanl8748
      @romanl8748 2 роки тому +1

      This is very interesting. Are you referring to the very first shot in the at the beginning of the video or a longer one later on? A time stamp would be helpful. Also, are there other shots in the movie that he filmed?
      Thank you!

    • @DeanAlioto
      @DeanAlioto 2 роки тому +2

      @@romanl8748 Don't need a time stamp, it's the very first shot in this video essay -- the kid comes into the frame and holds his hands up in the "director's framing" gesture (the shot actually is cut off in thus essay, but it's a oner and "multi-beat shot"). I'm only aware of this one shot that Spielberg directed. I'm trying to find the BTS interview for you that I saw back when the film opened that states this.

    • @romanl8748
      @romanl8748 2 роки тому +1

      @@DeanAlioto Just seeing your reply. Thank you, this is very interesting. If you find the BTS interview I would be very interested in seeing it.

    • @olskoolvideoarchives
      @olskoolvideoarchives Рік тому

      The scene when Spielberg visited the set was the breakfast scene with the kids watching the news.

    • @DeanAlioto
      @DeanAlioto Рік тому

      @@olskoolvideoarchives Hey, Olskool! I'm hearing conflicting stories on this. Can you point me to the article or video you saw this on? Thnx!

  • @PhilmBlog
    @PhilmBlog Рік тому

    Great video. Lovely to see the distinction between the one-r/developing master and the multi-beat shot. Subbed! (Funnily enough I just did a video on how I created developing masters on my last movie if of interest!)

  • @emptyblank099a
    @emptyblank099a Рік тому +1

    These feel like i'm watching a video game cut scene. I think they work best in an intense scene. The minority report scene looked silly, its just blokes in a room talking.

  • @bradleykussy
    @bradleykussy 2 роки тому +1

    Yo! I've been saying this forever! Haha I just called them combo shots or beat shots. uy Using a single shot to lead into new compositions to elevate the storytelling. Also gives it a very cinematic, interesting look with the amount of camera movement and motion blur/cadence applied to the beat of the shot.

    • @whatisee-filmmakingbreakdo3007
      @whatisee-filmmakingbreakdo3007  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I never really knew what to call these kinds of shots either since I never heard an official name for them. But combo shot definitely works. Probably quick to say on set as well, so I dig it.

  • @jonasdavid1536
    @jonasdavid1536 2 роки тому +8

    One additional difficulty: Your light set up needs to be well set up. It not only needs to stay out of the way 100% (or you are willing to roto scope tripods) but you also need to make sure every beat looks good.

  • @MrRossT1
    @MrRossT1 7 місяців тому

    this is a stolen video! LINK THE SOURCE! >:I

    • @whatisee-filmmakingbreakdo3007
      @whatisee-filmmakingbreakdo3007  7 місяців тому +1

      Hi there! Genuine question - where else did you see this video? I uploaded it here first, and then submitted it to be featured in an article on No Film School's website. But I promise this is the original source.

    • @MrRossT1
      @MrRossT1 7 місяців тому

      @@whatisee-filmmakingbreakdo3007 In that case, my apologize. That is where I saw the vid the first time. No Film School.