@@nabeelalmulla8587 what about the shark that just gonna summon it next turn? Or the amount of resources needed to play against anti-graveyard set up, anti-search, and negation-steal.
the deck it dead now 4 me since the new format "link format", but back in the day I played only 1 shark, so by next turn I could only summon #39 lighting if I'm lucky, the deck meta was to locked you the 1st turn and end the duel on turn 3
Heroes have evolved since links came out. They’re still not the best in terms of consistency and like he said, a Kaiju and Raigeki is good enough to stop even my best hero boards but when you can get out plasma and dystopia, maybe even dark law, in one turn, that changes things. Ideally, heroes would have more follow through and more protection and negation but one-sided macro-cosmos, skill drain, and pop a card is nothing to scoff at first turn. Also it’s super consistent. Going second against a board with no protection or negation is also an easy win 2nd turn.
About a year ago I picked up yugioh again with my friends because of childhood nostalgia. We started to build random decks with friend and it was fun, but once we played at locals we saw how absurd high powerlevel come new decks had. Kaiju in combination with traptrix archtype allowed me to sometimes shit all over meta decks since most ppl went for the turn 1 full lockdown plays and I just denied it them since my deck was full of denial cards and used Kaiju as the "boss" monster. I will never hate on Kaijus.
yeah i knew a thing or two but i'm confused from what ive gathered these kaiju's lets you tribute(send to the graveyard) a monster or any card your opponent summons or has on the field and this happens once per turn and the opponent can't attack you with the kaiju then?
Got into recently. Read a huge ass manual and spent 3 months learning how to play. Only for Link monsters to come out and piss me off as I had no idea how to play again.
This is why I hate Kaijus. They're cool, but kill any hope of playing old decks effectively. I like the idea of boss monsters. I understand that decks can be a little linear when it comes to them, but they're so cool and it's great when you can get a deck that isn't that good to work well and summon them. Kaijus are just one of those things that the game will probably never be able to get around though.
Deon Blue Kaijus are now a necessary evil because of Konami's bad game design decisions. They're an answer to boss monsters that would otherwise be nearly impossible to out (Towers type cards) but in turn their existence makes it difficult to use boss monsters that aren't even that overpowered.
I think Kaijus are something of a necessary evil. Yes, they are very frustrating when it comes to having them used against you. However, now that they exist I think it would be a good way to have a lot of archtypes focus on recovery of resources and follow-ups, with possible legacy support that helps older archtypes manage this.
I think what really annoys me about them is how you can't respond to them in any way. You can't prepare any sort of counter to them, if your opponent decides to kaiju, they're gonna kaiju, end of story.
I play YuGiOh mostly for fun and I enjoy collecting the cards. Though I dont play competitively, I really enjoy your videos and have respect for people who know the in and outs of the game.
I see some people mentioning that the only way past a Kaiju would be to add a clause that says "This card cannot be tributed". Well one idea I have is to make an archetype where the boss monsters are bigger versions of barrier statues, so that way you need the Kaiju with the right attribute before attempting to tribute them.
The thing i dont like about Kaijus is that they limit design space. If they ever want to make a good archetype in a post-kaiju world they have to make it do a bunch of stuff and the ability to recover after being kaiju'd. Unless they suddenly add "can't be tributed" to boss monsters they can't feasibly make another boss monster centric deck while kaijus exist.
The actual issue with Kaijus is that they ended up being needed to give recovery against some boss monsters. The design space was essentially closed enough that as confining as Kaijus are/were they still opened up the game.
I got back into the game this year around March-ish (left when Nekroz were meta) and when I saw that Kaijus were a thing and the game as it stood, i was skeptical, yet i gave it a chance to convince me if its needed. As it stands, I hate them. They are way to fucking strong as a one card out to any monster, and also provide very little interaction to actually outplay and solve a situation. That said, they are almost a necessity now because we always get some stupid boss monster that it is a universal pain in the ass to out. I hate making statements like this because its a very "scrub" argument. But simply put, Konami needs to stop this excessive power creep they force in the game. Zoodiacs were actually used as an example on alot of card shops that show why too much power creep is unhealthy for a card game. I absolutely love this game, but to tell me that im shit for not being to handle a low effort interaction because I "didnt side in Mask Of Restrict" or whatever bs statement like "youre just bad because you play casual rogue tier shit" is a completely intolerant and asinine argument, which just helps Konami justify making some of these ridiculously bullshit decks, cards, mechanics, etc. Anyways thats my two cents.
I guess I was beat to it but yeah I switched to MTG last year. It really scratched some of those itches for deck building, game mechanics, etc. Yu-Gi-Oh no longer or never did.
I picture "When Leaves the battlefield" effects coming around. In magic there was a time When every blue deck was bouncing your monsters Back to the hand over and over. they created a creature called "Thragtusk", this creature gave you LP when entering the field and spam a free token when leaving it, so bouncing it was the worst thing you could do.
Andrés Prochnik This is why there are so few bans in MtG. Wizards at the very least keeps close tabs on the synergy during development and after the set gets released.
+Jake Cross Well, that's only one of the reasons. The other, perhaps more important, is because of how competitive Magic is setup with the "Standard/Modern/Limited" model. The game doesn't need as much of a massive banlist, because every year's set of cards is meant to compete against only that year's sets. Next year's set of cards don't need to worry about balancing around Ulamog, because he'll be gone. Players won't be allowed to show up at an event with Zendikar cards anymore. After that? Why even bother restricting something like Vintage? That's a casual mode of play, meant for just day-to-day play between friends. Vintage banlists are incredibly jank with some bans that don't make sense in light of much worse cards that aren't banned, but this is because Wizards doesn't need to bother with it, because it isn't affecting the competitive landscape. They know that anyone just playing for fun will figure out their own list of banned cards among the friends he plays with, which is how it honestly should be.
This is why Trishula is such a treat. If you summon him with djinn, then he can't be outed by any dumb kaiju. Also, trisula can be recurred by Nekroz cycle. My tiny rant is just proving that if konami unbanned all nekroz cards, that deck will DOMINATE EVERYBODY. -just a salty Nekroz fan
I really never understood how nekroz ruled so hard. Youd literally sit on one or two monsters maybe, no protection, no interruption, and a pseudo vanitys emptiness. I wasnt playing at the time, but i just didnt understand it. This video does a great job of explaining it.
I guess in a vacuum a Nekroz field wouldn't look strong. If you played during that time, you know: - You basically could never attack a Nekroz board -> Valk - Next best thing was Extra Deck monsters, oh wait.. Unicore. - I guess just Special Summon a real big monste.. nope, Emptiness. - Well, guess there's always Raigeki.. Gungnir? Fuck you! Even if you got through all of that, you couldn't kill a Nekroz player cause Valk and they would do it all over again next turn. Sounds kinda strong now, hm? Oh and also, you better leave either field, graveyard or hand blank or Trish just beats the shit out of you.
Andrew Miller it was pretty much how crazy consistent bc of every card being a searcher, and djinn lock along with Unicore extra deck hate and any outs by battle or card eff can be countered by valk/gun and of course those were searched out.
Oh come on, everyone knows Five-Headed Dragon is the best early boss monster in Yu-Gi-Oh! After all, he didn't have specific cards required to fuse him, ya just needed an entire hand/board full of dragons! Super easy! (In all seriousness, loved that silly filler episode as a kid and picked up the card at a flea market; my brother and I got into a couple extremely casual matches with our old cards a couple months ago, and I won a handful of matches by bringing out F.G.D. - that's right, it's the Japanese version - using Dragon's Mirror)
I had a crazy Duel Links battle where I fucking polymerization'ed Five Headed using 4 monsters in my hand and 1 on my field. And the 4 monsters included 3 of the 2 blue eyes egg monsters so I got to add 1 blue eyes to my hand and summon 2 blue eyes monsters in the end phase. And the funny thing is, all that stuff wasn't even my primary objective. I just really really needed to drop a blue eyes in the grave.
Honestly Kaijus are a bad response to a situation they should have never made. They really did start to let power creep accelerate at such a stupid degree towards the back end of the XYZ era, and into the pendelumn era, and some of the cards they printed just never should have been made. They then made kaijus as a way of giving everyone at least one out to any problem monster. But now they have the issue of because kaijus always exist, there's only so many resources you can be willing to put into a monster. Konami seemed to have either stopped giving a shit, or forgotten how to design cards well.
In my opinion, kaijus disappointed me. I didn't want them to be a hand trap that can be splashed in basically every deck, I wanted a cool archetype that could stand on its own and be treated as its own deck. And while it can (kinda?) Its just better off being splashed than just pure kaiju.
P0TAT0G0D Bob errata Kaijus and make it so they can only tribute over other players monsters when their field spell is active. Also, give them field spell protection in some form. That would stop the mindless Kaiju splash. It would also make Kaijus a full but compact archetype where Kaiju players are able to splash other engines to boost effectiveness, not the other way around.
Hey bro, pure Kaiju is pretty fun to play online. It's hilarious to play Gameciel once you have a board all set up because nobody remembers Gameciel's effect besides the fact it can remove stuff off the board. Therefore, when you have a Gameciel on your side of the field and start negating literally everything your opponent does, it's hilarious.
Kaijus didn't change Yugioh. Before Kaijus the aim of every player was to get their turn one field out with negation. After Kaijus the aim of every player is to get their turn one field out with negation and cross their fingers you don't have a kaiju. Dropping negators/lockdown cards turn one will always be the best way to win (until konami makes cards which activate off being negated) so everyone will always aim for this. Maxx C is a much better hand trap to stop your opponent from making uncrackable boards yet it didn't stop that strategy either. Kaijus, Maxx C's and foreheads are great at shutting down death boards but they're also perfect for the maker of those boards to prevent comebacks so ultimately no one has any incentive to change their strategy. You can argue they changed card design but naturia beast, Ophion, Ark Knight and shadoll fusion all had far greater impacts on the type of decks and monster designs which would get printed following their release.
Went up against a Kaiju player while using a Yubel deck. Worked well with Yubel’s level up system. Neither one of us could keep a monster on the field for long.
Only if we had Kaijus when towers was around, At least I, as a Nekroz player, had an out using decisive armour but decks like BA and shaddolls struggled so hard
SHURIT, STRATEGIST OF THE NEKROZ something I did that I feel no one else did was overlay my two constructs for Galaxy-Eyes prime photon dragon to out towers.
Man... I hate kaijus, it makes playing many fun decks near impossible because your opponent can just go and kaiju over it because idk, you were dumb enough to not have Mask of Restrict turn one right? Again... if the effect was reversed. "If you control a kaiju, your can tribute an opponents monster to summon a kaiju on their side of the field" today, it's not that difficult to think to summon a kaiju on your field. At least your opponent would have a heads up or a way to oppose it, just like when they used to summon Cyber Dragon to stop Kozmo
Another butthurt idiot salty he can never get a win with his super quantum deck or whatever trash is out there. Bet if kaijus werent a thing, you'd be over here crying as well about how hard it is to get over master peace. This community just loves complaining
dude... for someone who calls me salty, calm down... maybe you don´t understand that there are other decks out there, that maybe like to play big boss monsters, because you know... the whole point of a card game is to have many different decks, but the presence of kaijus make it way harder for those type of decks to actually work, some of them can be extremely fun, I do not play super quantal but i´ve seen it and it sounds fun. I wouldn´t be here crying about master peace because there are more than one way to out a master peace, I don´t know about your dueling capabilities, but for you to say that... either you are limited to one strategy every time or you have lost a bit the sense of playing other decks, perhaps you could try a boss monster deck for once, then you maybe could change your mind, you would understand why its a bit frustrating... or you can you know... get extremely salty and stuff your choice man!
This is the reason i think cards like utopia the lightning are great while kaijus not so much. Many boss monsters now that are made to be "untouchable" like chaos max, super quant i believe, towers, and ultimate falcon still have the weakness of battle destruction if you get over their monstrous attacks. Lightning offered a way to have a decently viable out while still giving the opponent a chance to react. Kaijus are a get out of jail free card. I dont know, they are nice in many aspects but also a huge design problem
I'd consider this impact a bad thing, because it ultimately has just restricted the way you can construct new decks. It's bottle-necked the design to go one way by eliminating one type of play entirely. It helps make the game feel less varied and more samey. I mean, what deck are you playing? The deck that special-summons a bunch of extra/main deck monsters in one turn, the deck that discards in order to special-summons even more bunch of monsters from your Graveyard in one turn or the deck that headlocks the opponent from doing anything *before* you special-summon a bunch of extra/main deck monsters in one turn? I'm being facetious of course, but that's how it feels. I like Boss-monsters. Why am I not allowed to have a deck that speaks to my interests? Of course, rigidness in design is an overarching theme of YGO, where they'd rather tack on gimmicks than try to create unique new interactions between cards, but just this idea of spreading the board being the end-point of all archetypes is the perfect example of this train of thought.
Back in my day you actually had to summon a monster! Like gate guardian, you had to have a plan to summon "sangan" "kazejin" and "suijin" before you could ever hope to summon "gate guardian" but all the n00bs said "that's too hard" and now look. We've got these shitty pedulum monsters cuz konami wanted to market the game to a bunch of kids who barely read the rules and cheat anyway. It sucks so much!
mr bigg listen to yourself. You're hating on Pendulums in the post- Link ruleset. The worst part about pendulums before Links was the fact they could go into multiple toolbox XYZ monsters in a single turn. That's not the case anymore
I love kaijus! Even tho they fuck up my first turn quazar boards. they just necessary to manny going 2nd decks. I play them in blue eyes or ancient gear and they win me so many games
The only boss monsters I can think of that a kaiju can't stop are darkest diabolos from the lair of darkness structure and quintet magician because they can't be tributed
Ten favorite boss monsters of all time: 10.) Dark Armed Dragon 9.) Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End 8.) Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss 7.) Mermail Abyssgaios 6.) Elemental Hero Absolute Zero 5.) Blackwing Armor Master 4.) Infernity Doom Dragon 3.) True King of all Calamities 2.) El Shaddoll Construct 1.) Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar (personal bias for Aliens)
Imagining a world where link monsters shuffle their materials into the deck instead of sending them to the GY and I think I like that world better ngl. Most link decks have enough search and consistency power anyway it wouldn't really stop them from playing the game, just keep them from doing dumb 5 negate boards. Also the fact that link monsters are functionally a send to GY trigger you can keep in your back pocket whenever you need it, it creates some really dumb combos inherently.
Tearlaments Ishizu deck did just that with fusion mill spam recycle deck and it was a Tier 0 deck that crushed everything below its speed and nothing missed the timing of that deck outside of banished. This lasted for several months Fun fact it literally can activate it's effects turn 0 too and destroy and mill both players decks by half and fusion spam 3 times within that.
Looking at the new Retrained DIabolos thats coming in Lair of Darkness with the Effect: Your Opponent cannot Tribute this card. And then seeing your video makes me thing that we may get some more Main Deck Boss Monsters
I run a new dino deck and almost constantly have my ultimate conductor tyranno up. I like that I can easily get out a boss monster however boss monsters do ruin the game quite a bit if it can easily counter your opponents ways of normally dealing with them. This is why I like kaijus since these make me think about my move a lot since they can easily ruin everything for me. Same for ritual decks that pump out insane monsters left and right.
Thats ultimate tyranno that can attack all monsters once. Then you have super conductor tyranno that can do 1000 damage to the opponent once per turn. These cards are 100% useless now since ultimate conductor tyranno merges all the good parts of those 2 togheter.
I love that dino deck; its super fun to play, but ultimate conductor tyranno is seriously good. maybe I'm missing something, but I always have a hard time getting rid of him when I'm up against him. if he couldn't flip my monsters down during my own turn then I wouldn't have a problem with him. worst is if I actually do get him gone there is another to replace him, super easy to get out.
I ran Lava Golem and Grinder Golem a lot back in the day. Most people thought I was running a burn deck when I did, but instead I was running an Inferno Tempest gimmick. It surprised a lot of people.
people ridiculed me for playing 3 of him in yosenju but it was really good in yosenju because you can bounce him back with kama 1, OH WAIT thats exactly what people do with kaijus now... i was ahead of my time lol
Thats an excellent turn 1 board state... Super heavy beast monster, AND multiple back row... Here, have a Kaiju and allow me to introduce you to a buddy of mine named Jinzo Jector...
Jinzo will forever be one of my favourite card / decks even if there isn't much of a boss monster (I wish I had jinzo lord but I don't and don't play enough to justify buying specific cards...) any way the true best card is penguin soldier...
BA player, never main decked Kaiju’s, but I do have the Gameceil and Gadarla sided for some match ups. Same with Mask of Restrict, Anti-Spell etc. - they’re great side options. I’ve played F0: Utopic Future in my extra deck for years purely to deal with the boss monster-centric decks (Kozmo Dark Destroyer...ugh). Majespecter unicorn -Kirin would have been amazing to Kaiju. Bane of my existence.
Oh man, I can't believe how old I am, I still play Gladiator Beasts and Earthbound Immortals, and maybe every now and then I use Lava Golem, Grinder Golem and Relinquished mix
Tbh I think this is the real reason Spyrals are about to be top tier, not just Double Helix. All Double Helix does is extend your plays but even without him the deck can still make strong boards that if you can't out then you're just gonna lose.
Irrelevant Oaf well I play true Draco monarchs my dude.... I draw for days and I draw into lava golem or RA pretty damn fast... Had a guy make a whole field of their Spyral crap xD lost it all to RA and a nice stormforth that gave me a master peace... Then I dropped zaborg and draw for like 3-4 minute and he scooped cause he basically had no field and hand :/ I couldn't otk cause of card of demise but he lost basically everything and all his extra deck and quick-fix got smacked with chain disappearance
Kaijus are evil, but they definitely are a necessary evil. I know some people complain that Kaijus make playing a boss monster deck hard, but if a deck summons a boss monster just in terms of attack points or an effect that hurts, but doesn't prevent me from playing, then I don't bother siding in Kaijus because of the reason I feel like they're fair; they mess up the flow of your deck. First and foremost you have to actually open up a kaiju; opening up with it late sucks. Next thing is that after you open up with it, you're still giving your opponent a monster, so you still need to be able to destroy it somehow. And finally, using a Kaiju to out your opponent's boss monster means little if they could just make a recover quickly. Take Kozmos for example, when I kaijued a Dark Destroyer, my opponent would just flip call of the haunted and bring the Dark Destroyer back; now I have to deal with the Dark Destroyer and the Kaiju I just gave my opponent. To wrap up, Kaijus aren't the problem to me, it's slumber. I know it's limited now, but it was too powerful to have a board wipe AND be able to search another Kaiju to out another future board.
I'm just learning the game for the first real time in many, many years, can anybody give me some clarity on what's discussed at 9:00? What do I look for in a card, or in a strategy, when one talks about having 'followups' or 'comeback' potential?
In terms of followup, it's important in YGO to be able to recover resources if a plan doesn't work out the way you intended -- you summoned a strong monster that can't be destroyed by battle or card effects using 3 monsters and your opponent hits you with Interdimensional prison, for example, leaving you without your powerful monster, no means of recovering it, and down three monsters that could be used for attacks, defense, or summons depending on what they are. For this reason, the best decks either minimize the number of cards required to get finishers on the board, or else they allow you to recover cards from your deck or graveyard to set yourself up for other plays if your opponent is able to counter you on the play you were setting up. For comebacks, you're really talking about cards that can initiate combos or stall your opponent until you build up enough resources to make plays (think cards that have effects that summon other cards from the deck or graveyard for a xyz summon, or cards that have summoning conditions that require you to banish cards from the graveyard like Dark Necrofear or Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning).
I still think the "discard one card to ruin the opponents turn" thing is where the meta was best. But I also have a hard time learning the new stuff, and was never an amazing player so take that as you will. For better context of what kind of "broke" me, I stopped playing in 2013, alongside most of my friends outside of the ones that wanted to participate in tournaments and had problems with it for at least 3 months at that point. I had a lot of older cards and at the time the pinnacle of my life was trying to summon exodia necross
Bujin players were my bitches back then. Nothing made me cum as hard as seeing the despair on their faces when i summoned Volcanic Queen and used "Owner's Seal".
While i understand that Kaijus are just a necessary evil for the easy way meta decks can bring boss monsters in the game I just miss before Kaijus i could literally make a deck with just any theme even not an OP deck slap a boss monster that didnt really had a deck around it like Earthbound immortals and have 2 duels out of 10 where i could win Now in the current Yugioh however that fun isnt there, i cant play any non-meta deck i am required to have a deck that can bring a boss monster quick because if my opponent can and WILL use a kaiju to tribute any boss monster i wanted to play with then it's just not fun Like back then i could go agaisnt archtype decks or even meta deck and still have a very slim chance to win despite not having ''combos'' but still it was fun to play the cards i wanted, or an archtype i loved. Kaijus just...ruined most of Yugioh for me, and while duel links is a thing, it's not the same.
I like the protect the castle strategy. So, if mask of restrict is a bad idea, what else can I do to be relevant with Protect the castle strategies to protect from Kaijus?
The Gemini God Mask of Restrict is good, but it's quite inconsistent to draw. I'd say Zombie World is also good, but there really is no good way to stop Kaijus besides already having one so you can't get one summoned on you.
My favorite move ever was using gamaciel on a dragun and then using monster reborn to get the dragun on my side all the while summoning my Juzi with a limiter removal
Since I run superheavy samurai sometimes, I can just play the star destroying kaiju, which is level ten, then battleball it to get the level 12 sychro, I can win the game that turn if I have soul horns, or soul glove, or both in my hand
I have a question..can you tribute a monster your opponent controls (that is unaffected by other cards effects : such as raidraptor-ultimate falcon) to special smmon a kaiju monster ?!
I think kaijus are the best type of removel mechanic which doesnt make people rage and cancerous or toxic I never ever got salty about getting my monster removed from kaiju plays because i dont know it doesnt feel like a extremly butthurt method to do like every mother fukin other shit in this game
It depends on the deck. Some players play deck that use up a lot of resources to summon a really strong boss monster, and it being kaiju'd often feels unfair because there is not much pre emptive counterplay to the Kaijus
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I feel like the game died after the Synchros came out. I was like well these synchros are cool and everything. Then pendulum, XYZ, and links came out and I was thinking wow this shit is wack. What happened to the more simple Yugioh? Why are the stars on this card backwards? Why does this "link" card not have any defense points? Idk I just can't quite get into it anymore kinda ruins it for me. Now the game just feels like nothing but flooding the field with cards and monster on the first two turns. There doesn't seem to be the big build up to awesome plays like there used to be. Then you have these insta win combos and the stupid amount of insanely powerful easy as hell to activate/summon cards. Anyways I know some may not like what I'm saying, but I'm just telling it how it is. Ps. I know there were some pretty powerful cards pre synchro and all of that but now it's just gone to insane levels. Cards that are literally making it difficult to come up with new ones without making them seem completely fodder. Ps's. AND WHAT THE HELL IS THIS GREEN SHIT ON SOME OF MY CARDS. IT'S YUGIOH NOT FUCKING BAKUGON!!! Sorry just a tad frustrated. I'll be on my way now.
I quit at the beginning of pendulums but that was mainly because I didn't like the aesthetic of anything being released despite them being all that was competetive. Thankfully I finally gave magic the gathering a chance (it always felt like it was only being pushed by elitists and that things were overly complicated what with infinite card zones on the field, having to attack all at once, and other quirks) but I was surprised to find I enjoyed it just as much as Yugioh and after learning the nuances of deck building in mtg I started to like it more than I had Yugioh for most of my playtime (The exception being ghostricks).
Mike'l o Zonda It died at Xyz, not synchro's, i personally loved synchro monsters, bieng able to set up the right monsters to make the perfect combos was cool but when Xyz hit i really thought it went downhill. Lets not get started about pendulum monsters...
Hi, so how does this work in practice? What I mean is, do people just play Gameciel in their deck and hope they draw into it to out a boss monster, or is there some sort of searching used as well so you can reliably get the kaiju to out the boss monsters? I hope that makes sense
Usually people running kaijus will have a number of them in their deck outside of Gameciel, so often there's a high chance that you'll have SOME kaiju in your opening hand. They'll have more attack than 2200, but the principle is still the same: you replace a difficult to deal with boss monster with a kaiju, which has no useful abilities and therefore is much easier to get rid of.
I run almost 8 kaijus basically and 2 kaiju slumbers, kaiju slumber destroys all monsters on the field, and if you atleast destroyed 1 , you special 2 kaijus from deck (one on yours and on on your opp) , after that in a different turn that kaiju slumber is in gy, you can banish it to search a kaiju, it’s kinda nuts lol , nothing can stop kaijus from getting rid of your opp impossible or annoying monsters, and people sleep on them idk why, they are perfect
deck with absolute domination over EVERY other deck is fairy tale. right now there so many deck out there that good and consistent, easily dominating duel against various deck. but so poor once meet anything that hold its weakness. for example, a synchro spam deck user capable summon 2 multiple lv12 synchro, bunch of draw and backrow, will still quit after his opponent drop a sphere over his boss card. same goes for shiranui/invoked/vendread player also quit the moment chaos hunter pop out of nowhere backed up with backrow protection or a ghostrick/subterror player facing a mere dark simorgh. but i think everyone should know weakness of deck they were using but ironicaly, too lazy to put card that solve it coz didnt want to risking deck consistency. in that case why dont just put up with those weakness? or will everyone will just prohibite people from playing card they hate or pose threat to theirs to make them advantageous? that just childish..
I think you are missing the point the problem is not that the card anti a deck or two it that it is hard and excessable counter to said decks. I used to be pure duelist spending hour optimizing deck around a combo or theme, boss, etc. But around the end of xyz era I just feel hopeless and quit. Since then I tried many card game: shadowverse, duel master, pokemon, vanguard, mtg, ... And then I realized how shitty yugioh design. Take mtg for example, they have many counter, wipe but you can easily bait, bluff your way for summon, to counter a spell your opponent have to have corrects resource, so you can predict them easily. To effective shut down your opponent tactic you must know when or which card to kill, counter and how much should you spend to end it not "you did your shit right? Now I play a fuck you card that destroy every thing you spent on that and it just cost me 1 card, which is practically nothing ". Same thing with vanguard and pokemon to counter play around some deck strength you have to know how it work when to defend, to attack, what resource they have hands, energy,.... Contrast that to yugioh it just dumb. All effect are always the be all end all l type: I spend not thing to kill your card or my cards will not be effected by your cards in any way except when the new set come out when we get new type of removal, and then the next set with new cards that block said removal.
tuner monsters were always op. 2k attack or defense at 4 stars with no negative effects.. before that, it was rare for 4 star cards to reach 1800 attack or defense.. if giant soldier of stone and mystical elf are obsolete, something's terribly wrong.
Well it's why mask of restrict is very important... Can't Kaiju me since you require a tribute :v but yeah Kaiju are annoying but with the way Konami is making broken monsters after broken monsters they are a necessary evil
The game was so much better before... The decks may not have been so consistent and powerful as today but that's exactly why the game required more brains and every decision actually mattered. Nowadays you have like 3 decks you can play or get destroyed cause Konami can't balance the game to save their lives.
The problem with Kaijus and Master Peace is that they have established a power creep to removal and boss monsters that leave older archetypes completely unplayable. If they never printed Master Peace or similarly hard to remove cards, Kaijus wouldn't be a necessary out.
lets say opponent have 2 monster with negation effect while you have 2 card to play. if you play it, you just wasting card. if you not play it, you have yourself defenseles (not to mention opponent might summon another negator). if not for kaiju-like card, player with deck capable spam multiple monster with effect immunity, quick effect negation or removal will hog all the glory for themselves. so yeah, they necessary to balance out game. but not evryone play them anyway.
um... im not THAT informed about what's meta on TCG but apparently here in 2021 people don't talk about kaijus anymore lol, i don't see they talking about it when talking about good decks and all videos about it generally are +2 or 3 years old, so it probably didn't impacted the game for a long time
I don’t get it but honestly people be sleeping on kaijus , they are so crucial to me in this format because it gets over anything, no matter what basically, it’s the perfect out,
I have always played with a deck that focuses on getting multiple strong monsters on the field highest atk possible without tributes etc and spell n traps that destroy monsters n add life points. I wasn't very strong in making unique decks around certain card archetypes... just a lot of lol 4 18/19/2k+ cards and lol 5 tribute cards with 25k+ atk I would only include a 2 tribute card in my deck if it had a unique effect, or if it had and atk greater than anything I could get out of a single tribute card... but I'd have a few of those in there aswell so normally by turn 3-5 I'd have at least one 2 tribute high atk monster with multiple single tribute high atks with multiple spell n traps that made sure to keep them on the field
I use lava golem in my main deck. I’m curious if a kaiju would be better. Lava golem has the plus of burning my opponent, but the minus of having 800 more attack. And the fact that he tributes two could be a positive aspect or negative. It’s great tributing two of my opponents monsters but he is a brick if my opponent has only one monster and no second one. Any thoughts would be helpful. I’m considering if a simple kaiju would be better.
A Kaiju is better mainly due to the fact that it doesnt take your Normal Summon and you only need 1 monster to tribute. So, most times, theres always something to tribute it.
Something really annoying that came up during the early versions of the Dinosaur decks was when they would summon the Lv 8 FIRE Dinosaur Kaiju to their side of the field, making their bosses effectively unaffected by Kaijus.
After reading most of the comments to this video, I must say that I disagree with a lot of you guys. Yes they are necessary, and no they are not broken. Strong decks before kaijus could already make strong boards multiple turns in a row, so even if you break it once, they will still make it next turn again. What the kaiju does is letting you get rid of the biggest threat on the board to give yourself a chance to set up your own field. You pay for this by taking a straight -1, so now your own deck must be able to combo with 1 less card. Skipping all the other things, like there often being more than 1 negate on the board and so on, the kaiju is a dead card in your opening hand while going first. To sum it up, kaijus make deck building very interesting for both players involved in the duel.
This is why my friends and I play all decks pure. No mixing archetypes, Including the extra deck and spells/traps You'd be suprised at how balanced the game becomes with this restriction.
Boss monsters used to be so basic "I have over two thousand attack!" Now you get shit like "this monster can not be directly attacked, if this monster is somehow killed you can use a turn to re summon it, if your opponent does anything to this monster their whole field is destroyed"
I started this video hating kaiju (half of why I quit again last year) and while I still hate that they're necessary I've been mostly swayed by this video. I still think it sucks that the game is almost advertised via Boss Monsters yet these things exist to tell new players "you can't do that that's illegal" tho
Nice turn one lvl 12 synchro. Have a kaiju.
Did that to someone on the yugioh nexus and I immediately won the round because the other person disconnected.
I wrecked your metal guy, boss. But look! I made you a Kaiju!
@@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw Someone thunder king'd me, then superheavy sam battleballed me to get the level 12 sync
Me: my quasar...
thats why kaiju's are op monsters that should be nerfed imo,
Alternative title:
How Kaijus prevents Crooked cook from being a Tier 0 Deck lol
9:28 obviously you've never played against a hero player because every single time the hero player gets the exact card they need.
having played hero-toad myself, no he's right, kaijus my toad, then remove my darklaw, and you just beat me 90%
don't play against Jaden, he has plot armor
@@nabeelalmulla8587 what about the shark that just gonna summon it next turn? Or the amount of resources needed to play against anti-graveyard set up, anti-search, and negation-steal.
the deck it dead now 4 me since the new format "link format", but back in the day I played only 1 shark, so by next turn I could only summon #39 lighting if I'm lucky, the deck meta was to locked you the 1st turn and end the duel on turn 3
Heroes have evolved since links came out. They’re still not the best in terms of consistency and like he said, a Kaiju and Raigeki is good enough to stop even my best hero boards but when you can get out plasma and dystopia, maybe even dark law, in one turn, that changes things. Ideally, heroes would have more follow through and more protection and negation but one-sided macro-cosmos, skill drain, and pop a card is nothing to scoff at first turn. Also it’s super consistent. Going second against a board with no protection or negation is also an easy win 2nd turn.
About a year ago I picked up yugioh again with my friends because of childhood nostalgia. We started to build random decks with friend and it was fun, but once we played at locals we saw how absurd high powerlevel come new decks had. Kaiju in combination with traptrix archtype allowed me to sometimes shit all over meta decks since most ppl went for the turn 1 full lockdown plays and I just denied it them since my deck was full of denial cards and used Kaiju as the "boss" monster. I will never hate on Kaijus.
Traptrix got alot new stuff since you made this comment.
ibeginning of video: played yugioh as i kid
end of video: i have no idea what any of this means
yep same here XD
Tell me about it, I got back into it and I don’t understand a god damn thing these kids talk about
Same
I was thinking of getting back into yugioh but with all this different summoning types...i'll have to rethink about it now xD
yeah i knew a thing or two but i'm confused from what ive gathered these kaiju's lets you tribute(send to the graveyard) a monster or any card your opponent summons or has on the field and this happens once per turn and the opponent can't attack you with the kaiju then?
Got into recently. Read a huge ass manual and spent 3 months learning how to play. Only for Link monsters to come out and piss me off as I had no idea how to play again.
Level Eater is the true boss monster
Level Eater always makes me just sit there going "what the fuck just happened?"
i think you mean sangen
Dude be careful what you say, Cap G might show up and take you to small claims court in Raleigh for some Level Eater shit
Nah Zone Eater is better.
Always one of the stupidest cards in the game
This is why I hate Kaijus. They're cool, but kill any hope of playing old decks effectively. I like the idea of boss monsters. I understand that decks can be a little linear when it comes to them, but they're so cool and it's great when you can get a deck that isn't that good to work well and summon them. Kaijus are just one of those things that the game will probably never be able to get around though.
Deon Blue Kaijus are now a necessary evil because of Konami's bad game design decisions. They're an answer to boss monsters that would otherwise be nearly impossible to out (Towers type cards) but in turn their existence makes it difficult to use boss monsters that aren't even that overpowered.
I think Kaijus are something of a necessary evil. Yes, they are very frustrating when it comes to having them used against you. However, now that they exist I think it would be a good way to have a lot of archtypes focus on recovery of resources and follow-ups, with possible legacy support that helps older archtypes manage this.
Just play mask of restrict
The old decks can’t compete with the new one lol. Way too slow
I think what really annoys me about them is how you can't respond to them in any way. You can't prepare any sort of counter to them, if your opponent decides to kaiju, they're gonna kaiju, end of story.
I play YuGiOh mostly for fun and I enjoy collecting the cards. Though I dont play competitively, I really enjoy your videos and have respect for people who know the in and outs of the game.
Heck, Kaiju weren't even the original middle finger to boss monsters. Silent Honor ARK was.
Jack Casey And after that, Cyber Infinity.
that silent honor ark sounds like a xyz version of relinquished
@@likeanuuk6612 yeah but relinquished is cooler and honor ark works better in real life
Jack Casey there was lava golem I guess
I see some people mentioning that the only way past a Kaiju would be to add a clause that says "This card cannot be tributed". Well one idea I have is to make an archetype where the boss monsters are bigger versions of barrier statues, so that way you need the Kaiju with the right attribute before attempting to tribute them.
Vman87 reasonable balance suggestions in a YT comment section? Is this real life?
YOU NEED TO BE PUT ON THE KONAMI TEAM NOW!!
Charmiskit you mean diabolos?
I think dark attribute is dominating the game now,or maybe light. Feels like other attributes is already dead
Bigger versions of barrier statues 😂.
I hope you don’t still feel this way cause Thassa horrible ass take
The thing i dont like about Kaijus is that they limit design space. If they ever want to make a good archetype in a post-kaiju world they have to make it do a bunch of stuff and the ability to recover after being kaiju'd. Unless they suddenly add "can't be tributed" to boss monsters they can't feasibly make another boss monster centric deck while kaijus exist.
JadeHex easy thing/ easy Claus to add
The actual issue with Kaijus is that they ended up being needed to give recovery against some boss monsters. The design space was essentially closed enough that as confining as Kaijus are/were they still opened up the game.
Slumber is at 1 now. Like.. you are not always going to have a Kaiju.
JadeHex don't forget that Lava Golem has existed for a decade before Kaijus. Why complain now if you weren't then?
Killer Queenstar
Lava Golem restricts your normal summon, and gives a great beater.
I got back into the game this year around March-ish (left when Nekroz were meta) and when I saw that Kaijus were a thing and the game as it stood, i was skeptical, yet i gave it a chance to convince me if its needed. As it stands, I hate them. They are way to fucking strong as a one card out to any monster, and also provide very little interaction to actually outplay and solve a situation. That said, they are almost a necessity now because we always get some stupid boss monster that it is a universal pain in the ass to out. I hate making statements like this because its a very "scrub" argument. But simply put, Konami needs to stop this excessive power creep they force in the game. Zoodiacs were actually used as an example on alot of card shops that show why too much power creep is unhealthy for a card game. I absolutely love this game, but to tell me that im shit for not being to handle a low effort interaction because I "didnt side in Mask Of Restrict" or whatever bs statement like "youre just bad because you play casual rogue tier shit" is a completely intolerant and asinine argument, which just helps Konami justify making some of these ridiculously bullshit decks, cards, mechanics, etc. Anyways thats my two cents.
play mtg .ygo is trash
I guess I was beat to it but yeah I switched to MTG last year. It really scratched some of those itches for deck building, game mechanics, etc. Yu-Gi-Oh no longer or never did.
If you like caveman Yu-Gi-Oh and simple minded strategies then go to MTG
Wait till you see mystic mine burn exodia ftk deck
Maybe you've never seen Sphere mode at work.....
I picture "When Leaves the battlefield" effects coming around.
In magic there was a time When every blue deck was bouncing your monsters Back to the hand over and over. they created a creature called "Thragtusk", this creature gave you LP when entering the field and spam a free token when leaving it, so bouncing it was the worst thing you could do.
Andrés Prochnik This is why there are so few bans in MtG. Wizards at the very least keeps close tabs on the synergy during development and after the set gets released.
+Jake Cross
Well, that's only one of the reasons. The other, perhaps more important, is because of how competitive Magic is setup with the "Standard/Modern/Limited" model. The game doesn't need as much of a massive banlist, because every year's set of cards is meant to compete against only that year's sets. Next year's set of cards don't need to worry about balancing around Ulamog, because he'll be gone. Players won't be allowed to show up at an event with Zendikar cards anymore.
After that? Why even bother restricting something like Vintage? That's a casual mode of play, meant for just day-to-day play between friends. Vintage banlists are incredibly jank with some bans that don't make sense in light of much worse cards that aren't banned, but this is because Wizards doesn't need to bother with it, because it isn't affecting the competitive landscape. They know that anyone just playing for fun will figure out their own list of banned cards among the friends he plays with, which is how it honestly should be.
This is why Trishula is such a treat. If you summon him with djinn, then he can't be outed by any dumb kaiju. Also, trisula can be recurred by Nekroz cycle. My tiny rant is just proving that if konami unbanned all nekroz cards, that deck will DOMINATE EVERYBODY. -just a salty Nekroz fan
That tasty Trishula
I really never understood how nekroz ruled so hard. Youd literally sit on one or two monsters maybe, no protection, no interruption, and a pseudo vanitys emptiness. I wasnt playing at the time, but i just didnt understand it. This video does a great job of explaining it.
I guess in a vacuum a Nekroz field wouldn't look strong. If you played during that time, you know:
- You basically could never attack a Nekroz board -> Valk
- Next best thing was Extra Deck monsters, oh wait.. Unicore.
- I guess just Special Summon a real big monste.. nope, Emptiness.
- Well, guess there's always Raigeki.. Gungnir? Fuck you!
Even if you got through all of that, you couldn't kill a Nekroz player cause Valk and they would do it all over again next turn. Sounds kinda strong now, hm? Oh and also, you better leave either field, graveyard or hand blank or Trish just beats the shit out of you.
Andrew Miller it was pretty much how crazy consistent bc of every card being a searcher, and djinn lock along with Unicore extra deck hate and any outs by battle or card eff can be countered by valk/gun and of course those were searched out.
Jake wright until you dueled domain monarchs and or domain pure true dracos
Oh come on, everyone knows Five-Headed Dragon is the best early boss monster in Yu-Gi-Oh! After all, he didn't have specific cards required to fuse him, ya just needed an entire hand/board full of dragons! Super easy!
(In all seriousness, loved that silly filler episode as a kid and picked up the card at a flea market; my brother and I got into a couple extremely casual matches with our old cards a couple months ago, and I won a handful of matches by bringing out F.G.D. - that's right, it's the Japanese version - using Dragon's Mirror)
I had a crazy Duel Links battle where I fucking polymerization'ed Five Headed using 4 monsters in my hand and 1 on my field.
And the 4 monsters included 3 of the 2 blue eyes egg monsters so I got to add 1 blue eyes to my hand and summon 2 blue eyes monsters in the end phase.
And the funny thing is, all that stuff wasn't even my primary objective. I just really really needed to drop a blue eyes in the grave.
Honestly Kaijus are a bad response to a situation they should have never made. They really did start to let power creep accelerate at such a stupid degree towards the back end of the XYZ era, and into the pendelumn era, and some of the cards they printed just never should have been made. They then made kaijus as a way of giving everyone at least one out to any problem monster. But now they have the issue of because kaijus always exist, there's only so many resources you can be willing to put into a monster.
Konami seemed to have either stopped giving a shit, or forgotten how to design cards well.
Crawver This.
Kaijus could have worked if you got your monster back at the end phase.
@@americantimemachine7128 that's a bit too weak in my opinion. What if they returned to you when the Kaiju left the field or was destroyed
In my opinion, kaijus disappointed me. I didn't want them to be a hand trap that can be splashed in basically every deck, I wanted a cool archetype that could stand on its own and be treated as its own deck. And while it can (kinda?) Its just better off being splashed than just pure kaiju.
P0TAT0G0D Bob errata Kaijus and make it so they can only tribute over other players monsters when their field spell is active. Also, give them field spell protection in some form. That would stop the mindless Kaiju splash. It would also make Kaijus a full but compact archetype where Kaiju players are able to splash other engines to boost effectiveness, not the other way around.
TCG shall stop for made any archetype in this game
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Hey bro, pure Kaiju is pretty fun to play online. It's hilarious to play Gameciel once you have a board all set up because nobody remembers Gameciel's effect besides the fact it can remove stuff off the board. Therefore, when you have a Gameciel on your side of the field and start negating literally everything your opponent does, it's hilarious.
Kaijus are really funny to watch in Master Duel. Maybe I just like how they squash power creep even after all this time.
Alot of people are getting wise to near unkillable/annoying boss monsters and main/side decking kaijus.
Kaijus didn't change Yugioh. Before Kaijus the aim of every player was to get their turn one field out with negation. After Kaijus the aim of every player is to get their turn one field out with negation and cross their fingers you don't have a kaiju. Dropping negators/lockdown cards turn one will always be the best way to win (until konami makes cards which activate off being negated) so everyone will always aim for this. Maxx C is a much better hand trap to stop your opponent from making uncrackable boards yet it didn't stop that strategy either.
Kaijus, Maxx C's and foreheads are great at shutting down death boards but they're also perfect for the maker of those boards to prevent comebacks so ultimately no one has any incentive to change their strategy.
You can argue they changed card design but naturia beast, Ophion, Ark Knight and shadoll fusion all had far greater impacts on the type of decks and monster designs which would get printed following their release.
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Goofy ahh dumb ahh nonsense ratio'd
In this video: Zoodiac have bad opening boards. I didn't think I would ever hear anyone say this with a straight face.
Member yatalock? Member Drulers? Member 3trish3arch3launchfernities? Member Pepe?
I do
Lord Of Garbage Progenitor Of Trash pepperidgefarm remembers
Went up against a Kaiju player while using a Yubel deck. Worked well with Yubel’s level up system. Neither one of us could keep a monster on the field for long.
Despite me hating kaijus with a passion I still have to admit that there's nothing more satisfying than kaijuing a zarc or quasar
Only if we had Kaijus when towers was around, At least I, as a Nekroz player, had an out using decisive armour but decks like BA and shaddolls struggled so hard
SHURIT, STRATEGIST OF THE NEKROZ something I did that I feel no one else did was overlay my two constructs for Galaxy-Eyes prime photon dragon to out towers.
tellars had easy outs to towers lmao
Oh yeah, honest, forgot all abt it 1 min i'll edit the comment
Also Excalibur :)
These counters to towers and the new qli link monster coming out, yet konami hasn't unbanned it
3:38 i really miss Chaos Dragons. That and E.Hero from that meta are the two decks that I had the most fun playing.
Man... I hate kaijus, it makes playing many fun decks near impossible because your opponent can just go and kaiju over it because idk, you were dumb enough to not have Mask of Restrict turn one right? Again... if the effect was reversed. "If you control a kaiju, your can tribute an opponents monster to summon a kaiju on their side of the field" today, it's not that difficult to think to summon a kaiju on your field. At least your opponent would have a heads up or a way to oppose it, just like when they used to summon Cyber Dragon to stop Kozmo
Another butthurt idiot salty he can never get a win with his super quantum deck or whatever trash is out there. Bet if kaijus werent a thing, you'd be over here crying as well about how hard it is to get over master peace. This community just loves complaining
Even with Kaijus Master Peace still damn hard to get over. And also If you were him wouldn't you complain too?
That's why you always got to have a back-up, and a back-up for that back-up. lol
dude... for someone who calls me salty, calm down... maybe you don´t understand that there are other decks out there, that maybe like to play big boss monsters, because you know... the whole point of a card game is to have many different decks, but the presence of kaijus make it way harder for those type of decks to actually work, some of them can be extremely fun, I do not play super quantal but i´ve seen it and it sounds fun. I wouldn´t be here crying about master peace because there are more than one way to out a master peace, I don´t know about your dueling capabilities, but for you to say that... either you are limited to one strategy every time or you have lost a bit the sense of playing other decks, perhaps you could try a boss monster deck for once, then you maybe could change your mind, you would understand why its a bit frustrating... or you can you know... get extremely salty and stuff your choice man!
This is the reason i think cards like utopia the lightning are great while kaijus not so much. Many boss monsters now that are made to be "untouchable" like chaos max, super quant i believe, towers, and ultimate falcon still have the weakness of battle destruction if you get over their monstrous attacks. Lightning offered a way to have a decently viable out while still giving the opponent a chance to react. Kaijus are a get out of jail free card. I dont know, they are nice in many aspects but also a huge design problem
Can't they just print a boss monster that says "this card can't be tributed"? then it can't get kaiju'd right?
Btwist95 Summoner Monk is indeed a formidable boss monster
Its the next logical step in power creep. Though this has been said since kaijus existed tho
As long it's not immune to everything. That kinda crap is why Kaiju even got big and we'd end up with the zoodiac fiasco
Better can't be removed from the field make it happend!
Mixuter that's just dumb
So... "Dies to Kaijus" would now be the Duel Monsters equivalent to "Dies to Doom Blade"?
Coming back to this after Eldlich. Makes me think a deck can run fine with only a boss monster in the deck
I run a Dinosaur/Kaiju deck and it is amazing and such a pain to play against
Boss monster back then: big number or decent effect.
Boss monster now: Effect negation is a must, and it must have more that two good effects.
Ancient Gear decks, my best deck right now, has in deck boss monsters and longevity plus one can splash in an extra card or two.
I'd consider this impact a bad thing, because it ultimately has just restricted the way you can construct new decks. It's bottle-necked the design to go one way by eliminating one type of play entirely. It helps make the game feel less varied and more samey. I mean, what deck are you playing? The deck that special-summons a bunch of extra/main deck monsters in one turn, the deck that discards in order to special-summons even more bunch of monsters from your Graveyard in one turn or the deck that headlocks the opponent from doing anything *before* you special-summon a bunch of extra/main deck monsters in one turn?
I'm being facetious of course, but that's how it feels. I like Boss-monsters. Why am I not allowed to have a deck that speaks to my interests? Of course, rigidness in design is an overarching theme of YGO, where they'd rather tack on gimmicks than try to create unique new interactions between cards, but just this idea of spreading the board being the end-point of all archetypes is the perfect example of this train of thought.
Zone Eater is the true boss monster
Back in my day you actually had to summon a monster! Like gate guardian, you had to have a plan to summon "sangan" "kazejin" and "suijin" before you could ever hope to summon "gate guardian" but all the n00bs said "that's too hard" and now look. We've got these shitty pedulum monsters cuz konami wanted to market the game to a bunch of kids who barely read the rules and cheat anyway. It sucks so much!
+mr bigg cringe
mr bigg listen to yourself. You're hating on Pendulums in the post- Link ruleset. The worst part about pendulums before Links was the fact they could go into multiple toolbox XYZ monsters in a single turn. That's not the case anymore
You can't be real.
Hey remember back in like August or September when Konami nerfed pendulums and now more people play lightsworns then pendulum magicians. Good times
mr bigg moron
4:05 do you have a moment to hear about our (Dark)lord Morningstar?
I love kaijus! Even tho they fuck up my first turn quazar boards. they just necessary to manny going 2nd decks. I play them in blue eyes or ancient gear and they win me so many games
The only boss monsters I can think of that a kaiju can't stop are darkest diabolos from the lair of darkness structure and quintet magician because they can't be tributed
Ten favorite boss monsters of all time:
10.) Dark Armed Dragon
9.) Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
8.) Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss
7.) Mermail Abyssgaios
6.) Elemental Hero Absolute Zero
5.) Blackwing Armor Master
4.) Infernity Doom Dragon
3.) True King of all Calamities
2.) El Shaddoll Construct
1.) Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar (personal bias for Aliens)
I loved playing against Heroes back in the day. I ran a water abyss form deck and my side deck was all super poly abs zero support :)
Imagining a world where link monsters shuffle their materials into the deck instead of sending them to the GY and I think I like that world better ngl. Most link decks have enough search and consistency power anyway it wouldn't really stop them from playing the game, just keep them from doing dumb 5 negate boards. Also the fact that link monsters are functionally a send to GY trigger you can keep in your back pocket whenever you need it, it creates some really dumb combos inherently.
Tearlaments Ishizu deck did just that with fusion mill spam recycle deck and it was a Tier 0 deck that crushed everything below its speed and nothing missed the timing of that deck outside of banished.
This lasted for several months
Fun fact it literally can activate it's effects turn 0 too and destroy and mill both players decks by half and fusion spam 3 times within that.
Kaiju: I'm a boss monsters worst nightmare
Darkest Diobolos: What you talking about
Looking at the new Retrained DIabolos thats coming in Lair of Darkness with the Effect: Your Opponent cannot Tribute this card.
And then seeing your video makes me thing that we may get some more Main Deck Boss Monsters
I run a new dino deck and almost constantly have my ultimate conductor tyranno up. I like that I can easily get out a boss monster however boss monsters do ruin the game quite a bit if it can easily counter your opponents ways of normally dealing with them.
This is why I like kaijus since these make me think about my move a lot since they can easily ruin everything for me. Same for ritual decks that pump out insane monsters left and right.
Thats ultimate tyranno that can attack all monsters once. Then you have super conductor tyranno that can do 1000 damage to the opponent once per turn. These cards are 100% useless now since ultimate conductor tyranno merges all the good parts of those 2 togheter.
I love that dino deck; its super fun to play, but ultimate conductor tyranno is seriously good. maybe I'm missing something, but I always have a hard time getting rid of him when I'm up against him. if he couldn't flip my monsters down during my own turn then I wouldn't have a problem with him. worst is if I actually do get him gone there is another to replace him, super easy to get out.
One things for sure, no matter how yugioh changes there will still be a shit ton of reading involved lmaoo
Bring Qliphorts back, they are doing nothing in the OCG and they have Towers, Scout and Saqlifice all at 3
Samuele Pelanda and don't forget they're getting a link monster now, so they should be brought back to promote it
I really want this to happen. I love making janky unexpected towers turbo decks on devpro but it takes forever to find ocg matches
Wished the dimensional dragons get an Link monster..
Watch as Towers gets an errata and thus gets unbanned, making your wishes come true
what are you talking about
I ran Lava Golem and Grinder Golem a lot back in the day. Most people thought I was running a burn deck when I did, but instead I was running an Inferno Tempest gimmick. It surprised a lot of people.
Wait so a a kaiju can use a monster even if it’s protected from card effects?
Tribute is a cost not an effect, thts why people play mystic mine and lady lament, the tribute will activate but the effect wont cause mystic mine
@@junevue9665 explain
i play santa claws for years :p
Finally I found someone! It's more balanced and a "nicer" card overall :)
Santa would be a nice guest star in an Exodia build, wouldn't it? I might be doing that soon.
Yeah I've been playing it for a while 😅
Likewise, my nigga. :D
people ridiculed me for playing 3 of him in yosenju but it was really good in yosenju because you can bounce him back with kama 1, OH WAIT thats exactly what people do with kaijus now... i was ahead of my time lol
Thats an excellent turn 1 board state... Super heavy beast monster, AND multiple back row... Here, have a Kaiju and allow me to introduce you to a buddy of mine named Jinzo Jector...
More good better ❤ Love ur vids man, keep it up
Fantastic video man. Make. More. Of. These.
Ohhhhh this makes me love my Graydle-Kaiju build even more. All I need is a few good links and it's tourney legal.
^ this guy knows lol you'd be surprised how many people are unprepared for that deck XD
Toadally Awesome is the Boss Monster of Frogs. Change my mind.
Zach W Frog the Jam ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jinzo will forever be one of my favourite card / decks even if there isn't much of a boss monster (I wish I had jinzo lord but I don't and don't play enough to justify buying specific cards...) any way the true best card is penguin soldier...
BA player, never main decked Kaiju’s, but I do have the Gameceil and Gadarla sided for some match ups. Same with Mask of Restrict, Anti-Spell etc. - they’re great side options.
I’ve played F0: Utopic Future in my extra deck for years purely to deal with the boss monster-centric decks (Kozmo Dark Destroyer...ugh). Majespecter unicorn -Kirin would have been amazing to Kaiju. Bane of my existence.
Oh man, I can't believe how old I am, I still play Gladiator Beasts and Earthbound Immortals, and maybe every now and then I use Lava Golem, Grinder Golem and Relinquished mix
Tbh I think this is the real reason Spyrals are about to be top tier, not just Double Helix. All Double Helix does is extend your plays but even without him the deck can still make strong boards that if you can't out then you're just gonna lose.
Amani Jones lava golem begs to differ lol just tribute your helix and firewall dragon... Winged dragon of Ra sphere mode is nasty against them too
So Lava Golem + Ra is an actual strategy? And here I thought my friend was insane.
Irrelevant Oaf well I play true Draco monarchs my dude.... I draw for days and I draw into lava golem or RA pretty damn fast... Had a guy make a whole field of their Spyral crap xD lost it all to RA and a nice stormforth that gave me a master peace... Then I dropped zaborg and draw for like 3-4 minute and he scooped cause he basically had no field and hand :/ I couldn't otk cause of card of demise but he lost basically everything and all his extra deck and quick-fix got smacked with chain disappearance
If people will use Sphere Mode then I wish they will include actual Ra if they decided to use Sphere Mode..
Kaijus are evil, but they definitely are a necessary evil. I know some people complain that Kaijus make playing a boss monster deck hard, but if a deck summons a boss monster just in terms of attack points or an effect that hurts, but doesn't prevent me from playing, then I don't bother siding in Kaijus because of the reason I feel like they're fair; they mess up the flow of your deck. First and foremost you have to actually open up a kaiju; opening up with it late sucks. Next thing is that after you open up with it, you're still giving your opponent a monster, so you still need to be able to destroy it somehow. And finally, using a Kaiju to out your opponent's boss monster means little if they could just make a recover quickly. Take Kozmos for example, when I kaijued a Dark Destroyer, my opponent would just flip call of the haunted and bring the Dark Destroyer back; now I have to deal with the Dark Destroyer and the Kaiju I just gave my opponent. To wrap up, Kaijus aren't the problem to me, it's slumber. I know it's limited now, but it was too powerful to have a board wipe AND be able to search another Kaiju to out another future board.
No joke, didn't even knew these existed and my Duel Links name is Kaiju......
ya i fucking love kaijus so nice not really giving a SHIT!!!!! about what the hell your opponent is playing.
Kaijus made Magicallized Duston Mop a 3-off staple in Noble Knights.
I still play GBs! 2007-2018 baby!
I'm just learning the game for the first real time in many, many years, can anybody give me some clarity on what's discussed at 9:00? What do I look for in a card, or in a strategy, when one talks about having 'followups' or 'comeback' potential?
In terms of followup, it's important in YGO to be able to recover resources if a plan doesn't work out the way you intended -- you summoned a strong monster that can't be destroyed by battle or card effects using 3 monsters and your opponent hits you with Interdimensional prison, for example, leaving you without your powerful monster, no means of recovering it, and down three monsters that could be used for attacks, defense, or summons depending on what they are. For this reason, the best decks either minimize the number of cards required to get finishers on the board, or else they allow you to recover cards from your deck or graveyard to set yourself up for other plays if your opponent is able to counter you on the play you were setting up.
For comebacks, you're really talking about cards that can initiate combos or stall your opponent until you build up enough resources to make plays (think cards that have effects that summon other cards from the deck or graveyard for a xyz summon, or cards that have summoning conditions that require you to banish cards from the graveyard like Dark Necrofear or Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning).
When you play lair of darkness and you don't use a extra deck because MR4
I still think the "discard one card to ruin the opponents turn" thing is where the meta was best. But I also have a hard time learning the new stuff, and was never an amazing player so take that as you will. For better context of what kind of "broke" me, I stopped playing in 2013, alongside most of my friends outside of the ones that wanted to participate in tournaments and had problems with it for at least 3 months at that point. I had a lot of older cards and at the time the pinnacle of my life was trying to summon exodia necross
Only soyboys use kaijus. Real men use Lava Golem and Volcanic Queen. Maybe Grinder Golem if you feel the need of doing a cheeky play.
Bujin players were my bitches back then. Nothing made me cum as hard as seeing the despair on their faces when i summoned Volcanic Queen and used "Owner's Seal".
Grinder Golem + Inferno Tempest = Troll level 100
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You sound like a Kaiju player, mate. Please tell me you aren't a Kaiju player.
While i understand that Kaijus are just a necessary evil for the easy way meta decks can bring boss monsters in the game
I just miss before Kaijus i could literally make a deck with just any theme even not an OP deck slap a boss monster that didnt really had a deck around it like Earthbound immortals and have 2 duels out of 10 where i could win
Now in the current Yugioh however that fun isnt there, i cant play any non-meta deck
i am required to have a deck that can bring a boss monster quick because if my opponent can and WILL use a kaiju to tribute any boss monster i wanted to play with then it's just not fun
Like back then i could go agaisnt archtype decks or even meta deck and still have a very slim chance to win despite not having ''combos'' but still it was fun to play the cards i wanted, or an archtype i loved.
Kaijus just...ruined most of Yugioh for me, and while duel links is a thing, it's not the same.
I like the protect the castle strategy. So, if mask of restrict is a bad idea, what else can I do to be relevant with Protect the castle strategies to protect from Kaijus?
The Gemini God Mask of Restrict is good, but it's quite inconsistent to draw. I'd say Zombie World is also good, but there really is no good way to stop Kaijus besides already having one so you can't get one summoned on you.
My favorite move ever was using gamaciel on a dragun and then using monster reborn to get the dragun on my side all the while summoning my Juzi with a limiter removal
Kaijus are why we never see Great Magnus.
It was me DIOOOOOOOO DAA WRYYYYY
Hehehehhee
Since I run superheavy samurai sometimes, I can just play the star destroying kaiju, which is level ten, then battleball it to get the level 12 sychro, I can win the game that turn if I have soul horns, or soul glove, or both in my hand
I have a question..can you tribute a monster your opponent controls (that is unaffected by other cards effects : such as raidraptor-ultimate falcon) to special smmon a kaiju monster ?!
ILLUMI ZOLDYCK yes
Yes since its a summoning condition you are pulling off instead of using a card effect
BIGGET TARGET. Love your videos dude, keep it up.
I have been testing a mini shaddoll engine in my cyberdark deck and it is working well
I think kaijus are the best type of removel mechanic which doesnt make people rage and cancerous or toxic
I never ever got salty about getting my monster removed from kaiju plays because i dont know it doesnt feel like a extremly butthurt method to do like every mother fukin other shit in this game
It depends on the deck. Some players play deck that use up a lot of resources to summon a really strong boss monster, and it being kaiju'd often feels unfair because there is not much pre emptive counterplay to the Kaijus
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I feel like the game died after the Synchros came out. I was like well these synchros are cool and everything. Then pendulum, XYZ, and links came out and I was thinking wow this shit is wack. What happened to the more simple Yugioh? Why are the stars on this card backwards? Why does this "link" card not have any defense points? Idk I just can't quite get into it anymore kinda ruins it for me. Now the game just feels like nothing but flooding the field with cards and monster on the first two turns. There doesn't seem to be the big build up to awesome plays like there used to be. Then you have these insta win combos and the stupid amount of insanely powerful easy as hell to activate/summon cards. Anyways I know some may not like what I'm saying, but I'm just telling it how it is.
Ps. I know there were some pretty powerful cards pre synchro and all of that but now it's just gone to insane levels. Cards that are literally making it difficult to come up with new ones without making them seem completely fodder.
Ps's. AND WHAT THE HELL IS THIS GREEN SHIT ON SOME OF MY CARDS. IT'S YUGIOH NOT FUCKING BAKUGON!!! Sorry just a tad frustrated. I'll be on my way now.
Gotta agree with you. Really miss the old days
Finally someone i can relate with, i feel your sadness man....i feel it so hard
I quit at the beginning of pendulums but that was mainly because I didn't like the aesthetic of anything being released despite them being all that was competetive. Thankfully I finally gave magic the gathering a chance (it always felt like it was only being pushed by elitists and that things were overly complicated what with infinite card zones on the field, having to attack all at once, and other quirks) but I was surprised to find I enjoyed it just as much as Yugioh and after learning the nuances of deck building in mtg I started to like it more than I had Yugioh for most of my playtime (The exception being ghostricks).
Mike'l o Zonda It died at Xyz, not synchro's, i personally loved synchro monsters, bieng able to set up the right monsters to make the perfect combos was cool but when Xyz hit i really thought it went downhill. Lets not get started about pendulum monsters...
Mike'l o Zonda wait until we get the next summoning method We’re they don’t have Attack points but defence points ehh!
Hi, so how does this work in practice? What I mean is, do people just play Gameciel in their deck and hope they draw into it to out a boss monster, or is there some sort of searching used as well so you can reliably get the kaiju to out the boss monsters? I hope that makes sense
Usually people running kaijus will have a number of them in their deck outside of Gameciel, so often there's a high chance that you'll have SOME kaiju in your opening hand. They'll have more attack than 2200, but the principle is still the same: you replace a difficult to deal with boss monster with a kaiju, which has no useful abilities and therefore is much easier to get rid of.
I run almost 8 kaijus basically and 2 kaiju slumbers, kaiju slumber destroys all monsters on the field, and if you atleast destroyed 1 , you special 2 kaijus from deck (one on yours and on on your opp) , after that in a different turn that kaiju slumber is in gy, you can banish it to search a kaiju, it’s kinda nuts lol , nothing can stop kaijus from getting rid of your opp impossible or annoying monsters, and people sleep on them idk why, they are perfect
deck with absolute domination over EVERY other deck is fairy tale. right now there so many deck out there that good and consistent, easily dominating duel against various deck. but so poor once meet anything that hold its weakness. for example, a synchro spam deck user capable summon 2 multiple lv12 synchro, bunch of draw and backrow, will still quit after his opponent drop a sphere over his boss card. same goes for shiranui/invoked/vendread player also quit the moment chaos hunter pop out of nowhere backed up with backrow protection or a ghostrick/subterror player facing a mere dark simorgh. but i think everyone should know weakness of deck they were using but ironicaly, too lazy to put card that solve it coz didnt want to risking deck consistency. in that case why dont just put up with those weakness? or will everyone will just prohibite people from playing card they hate or pose threat to theirs to make them advantageous? that just childish..
I think you are missing the point the problem is not that the card anti a deck or two it that it is hard and excessable counter to said decks. I used to be pure duelist spending hour optimizing deck around a combo or theme, boss, etc. But around the end of xyz era I just feel hopeless and quit. Since then I tried many card game: shadowverse, duel master, pokemon, vanguard, mtg, ... And then I realized how shitty yugioh design. Take mtg for example, they have many counter, wipe but you can easily bait, bluff your way for summon, to counter a spell your opponent have to have corrects resource, so you can predict them easily. To effective shut down your opponent tactic you must know when or which card to kill, counter and how much should you spend to end it not "you did your shit right? Now I play a fuck you card that destroy every thing you spent on that and it just cost me 1 card, which is practically nothing ". Same thing with vanguard and pokemon to counter play around some deck strength you have to know how it work when to defend, to attack, what resource they have hands, energy,.... Contrast that to yugioh it just dumb. All effect are always the be all end all l type: I spend not thing to kill your card or my cards will not be effected by your cards in any way except when the new set come out when we get new type of removal, and then the next set with new cards that block said removal.
tuner monsters were always op. 2k attack or defense at 4 stars with no negative effects.. before that, it was rare for 4 star cards to reach 1800 attack or defense.. if giant soldier of stone and mystical elf are obsolete, something's terribly wrong.
Mate I used to rock Five-Headed Dragon and Superdimensional Robot Galaxy Destroyer in my Chaos Dragons deck before REDMD got limited.
Well it's why mask of restrict is very important... Can't Kaiju me since you require a tribute :v but yeah Kaiju are annoying but with the way Konami is making broken monsters after broken monsters they are a necessary evil
Dragon ruler cards were pretty damn op. Turn 1 big eye and dracanoids... was pretty damn insane.
The game was so much better before... The decks may not have been so consistent and powerful as today but that's exactly why the game required more brains and every decision actually mattered. Nowadays you have like 3 decks you can play or get destroyed cause Konami can't balance the game to save their lives.
The problem with Kaijus and Master Peace is that they have established a power creep to removal and boss monsters that leave older archetypes completely unplayable. If they never printed Master Peace or similarly hard to remove cards, Kaijus wouldn't be a necessary out.
lets say opponent have 2 monster with negation effect while you have 2 card to play. if you play it, you just wasting card. if you not play it, you have yourself defenseles (not to mention opponent might summon another negator). if not for kaiju-like card, player with deck capable spam multiple monster with effect immunity, quick effect negation or removal will hog all the glory for themselves. so yeah, they necessary to balance out game. but not evryone play them anyway.
um... im not THAT informed about what's meta on TCG but apparently here in 2021 people don't talk about kaijus anymore lol, i don't see they talking about it when talking about good decks and all videos about it generally are +2 or 3 years old, so it probably didn't impacted the game for a long time
I don’t get it but honestly people be sleeping on kaijus , they are so crucial to me in this format because it gets over anything, no matter what basically, it’s the perfect out,
@@Tealmaker Ive been thinking they might give my ohoton galaxy deck s good chance against dytrok if i go second
I have always played with a deck that focuses on getting multiple strong monsters on the field highest atk possible without tributes etc and spell n traps that destroy monsters n add life points. I wasn't very strong in making unique decks around certain card archetypes... just a lot of lol 4 18/19/2k+ cards and lol 5 tribute cards with 25k+ atk I would only include a 2 tribute card in my deck if it had a unique effect, or if it had and atk greater than anything I could get out of a single tribute card... but I'd have a few of those in there aswell so normally by turn 3-5 I'd have at least one 2 tribute high atk monster with multiple single tribute high atks with multiple spell n traps that made sure to keep them on the field
I use lava golem in my main deck. I’m curious if a kaiju would be better. Lava golem has the plus of burning my opponent, but the minus of having 800 more attack. And the fact that he tributes two could be a positive aspect or negative. It’s great tributing two of my opponents monsters but he is a brick if my opponent has only one monster and no second one. Any thoughts would be helpful. I’m considering if a simple kaiju would be better.
A Kaiju is better mainly due to the fact that it doesnt take your Normal Summon and you only need 1 monster to tribute. So, most times, theres always something to tribute it.
tfw I gave my opponent a gameciel and then he puts down a kyotou waterfront the next turn
LMAO
kaijus completely destroyed super quantums
Something really annoying that came up during the early versions of the Dinosaur decks was when they would summon the Lv 8 FIRE Dinosaur Kaiju to their side of the field, making their bosses effectively unaffected by Kaijus.
After reading most of the comments to this video, I must say that I disagree with a lot of you guys. Yes they are necessary, and no they are not broken. Strong decks before kaijus could already make strong boards multiple turns in a row, so even if you break it once, they will still make it next turn again. What the kaiju does is letting you get rid of the biggest threat on the board to give yourself a chance to set up your own field. You pay for this by taking a straight -1, so now your own deck must be able to combo with 1 less card. Skipping all the other things, like there often being more than 1 negate on the board and so on, the kaiju is a dead card in your opening hand while going first.
To sum it up, kaijus make deck building very interesting for both players involved in the duel.
ra sphere mode is the true field wrecker though.
At least Konami's responses haven't been making shitty floaty bosses like Dante. God that shit pisses me off so much
Monarchs are cool because half your monsters are just boss monsters
Summoned Skull is why I never understood Dark Magician
This is why my friends and I play all decks pure.
No mixing archetypes, Including the extra deck and spells/traps
You'd be suprised at how balanced the game becomes with this restriction.
Boss monsters used to be so basic "I have over two thousand attack!" Now you get shit like "this monster can not be directly attacked, if this monster is somehow killed you can use a turn to re summon it, if your opponent does anything to this monster their whole field is destroyed"
I remember facing kaijus with my remove brainwashing deck. Good times beating them down with lava golem followed by nightmare arch fiends.
What about infernoid devyaty and onuncu?
I started this video hating kaiju (half of why I quit again last year) and while I still hate that they're necessary I've been mostly swayed by this video.
I still think it sucks that the game is almost advertised via Boss Monsters yet these things exist to tell new players "you can't do that that's illegal" tho