Set your Bobbins Free! - DIY Disc/Rotor Maintenance - Like a Boss

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  • Опубліковано 4 гру 2024

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  • @_XRMissie
    @_XRMissie Рік тому

    Huh, I've never done that. I started on a cg125 and that had a fixed rotor (04 model). I got a bandit 650 around a year and some change ago and I've never even thought to check the bobbins. No wonder my brakes feel so pulsey and horrid. It's not ABS, I've tested that with the rear brake by stomping it. First bike with ABS, dual free floating rotors (holy stoppying power), more than 1 cylinder... Lotta fun lmao. Cheers for this tip, hopefully solves my gammy brakes!

  • @Joel-xf9tl
    @Joel-xf9tl 5 місяців тому

    Old video but perfect.
    Noticed the bobbins on my z1000 were locked tight. It’s in for warranty and they are replacing them all but it’s good to know this could be the fix. Keep it clean.

  • @dekjeg
    @dekjeg 8 років тому

    Cheers Mr B I've got grabbing at the front so gonna try that today to see if it sorts it out ,I was always under the impression that the bobbing should not move and got new disc when they were lose,looking at your video I've been giving money away for no reason.

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  8 років тому

      +Dek Till Hehe - if you got money to give away send it to me :)
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @DaFred1990
    @DaFred1990 4 роки тому +7

    Yeah..... Don't do this.
    Those are for isolating heat from the outer part of the disc. Stops your bolts shearing at the hubs from radial expansion.

  • @MrBayoumi
    @MrBayoumi 3 роки тому

    Did this today and it helped a lot.

  • @fukcg00gle95
    @fukcg00gle95 5 років тому +14

    This procedure isn't recommended by any company. I used to think it was a good idea but after a little research I found out why not to do this. Anyone attempting this should look for arguments against this procedure.

    • @MrBayoumi
      @MrBayoumi 3 роки тому +11

      Yeah, just don't enlighten us.

    • @gorgon9786
      @gorgon9786 2 роки тому

      Of,.. They want you to buy a new set of disc's.. There are freeplay in new sets, in my mechanical orientation, a pair of turning bobbins, will take less heat from the outer ring to the inner,. Also, takes out resonance and vibration in the front.. Have felt this on a Brembo system, where the bobbins was set free.. Guess there are other systems which don't allow you to turn them(oval).. To all who are calling Bs,.. I belive this guy.. ua-cam.com/video/J6ZeN2mYFao/v-deo.html

    • @miketripoli1301
      @miketripoli1301 Рік тому

      Just use a easy out instead of bolt and washer, quick n easier

  • @8610sarge
    @8610sarge 5 років тому +9

    As @michael hefford mentioned Mat on the youtube channel the workshop explains in detail why making your bobbins move is isn't needed, doesn't do anything (same as people still putting copper grease on the rear of brake pads 😭) . ECB have brought out oval bobbings, these cannot move yet are on floating discs which proves they do not need to move.

    • @triv7252
      @triv7252 4 роки тому +2

      exactly right

    • @craigcope3369
      @craigcope3369 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly, the bobbins should not be loose as Matt said, some fucking pricks out there, it's when the bobbins are loose you need to have new ones.

    • @breakwood8531
      @breakwood8531 4 роки тому +1

      You can tell when he drills them they are oval to prove your point.

    • @vinceyreay
      @vinceyreay 2 роки тому

      It's actually an effective way of cleaning the bobbins & seriously wouldn't go near EBC

  • @MotorcycleExtremist
    @MotorcycleExtremist 10 років тому

    Thanks for demonstrating how to do this. Now it's my turn to get this job done.

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому +1

      Motorcycle Extremist Cheers, your brakes will feel much better after!
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      ***** Many Thanks Buddy!
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @tdh53855
    @tdh53855 7 років тому

    Excellent detail on another subject caring for your motorcycle.

  • @andypandy.
    @andypandy. 10 років тому

    something to do on the weekend, thank you very much Mr B

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Andy Pandy Motovlogs Indeed, you do feel a lot better about your brakes knowing you got them all free of crap :)
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @bocfat
    @bocfat 4 роки тому +2

    floating buttons, rotors are for thermal expansion and greater performance, checking the tension and not able to turn buttons on a cold day? try again on a hotter day, its all about expansion

  • @hoomannili
    @hoomannili 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for this. How freely should the bobbins rotate? I mean is it important that you can turn them freely with your hand?

    • @craigcope3369
      @craigcope3369 4 роки тому +2

      Holman, no don't do it this muppet will get people killed, they should not be loose, they hold the outer brake disc forgod sake, this muppet needs his bike licence revoked & the busa sold fucking prick.

  • @triv7252
    @triv7252 4 роки тому +8

    Don't forget to grease the discs themselves so they glide through the caliper, reducing resistance. Now go out and ride really really fast and enjoy that reduced friction.

    • @TheShukladhvaj
      @TheShukladhvaj 4 роки тому

      😂

    • @user-lz1zj4gq6v
      @user-lz1zj4gq6v 3 роки тому +1

      I did what you said and my bike won't stop quickly anymore. Do I need to bleed them now?

  • @MarkBennett118
    @MarkBennett118 4 роки тому +2

    lot of manufacturers use oval bobbins now which proves they dont need to turn, they are only there for thermal expansion

    • @user-lz1zj4gq6v
      @user-lz1zj4gq6v 3 роки тому +3

      But they do need to move and be free of dirt to do so. It's called a floating rotor for a reason.

    • @mansabad.sniper
      @mansabad.sniper Рік тому

      If there are clogged and seized then is there any room for thermal expansion?

  • @keepitmoving5440
    @keepitmoving5440 7 років тому

    Clicking brakes could just be where the pads move slightly in the carrier. With free moving discs, might cause more rattle noise

  • @HoldFastFilms
    @HoldFastFilms 8 років тому +1

    Nicely done. Thanks for sharing!

  • @forthcoming-d8694
    @forthcoming-d8694 2 роки тому

    Cool video mate 😎👍 hayabossa a is for a boss 🤪 hey nice shoes you got ! What brand are they ?! I got new titanium bobbins in gold and silver from AliExpress for my 2019 CB1000-R 👍

  • @TheIcegoblin
    @TheIcegoblin 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the how to... will do this when I do my next brake pad change on my Triumph Speed Triple. Good use of the two cameras and the 'blue print' idea was interesting.

  • @jamesrimmer9002
    @jamesrimmer9002 6 років тому

    Cheers Pal, learned something new - nice vid too

  • @Rhin0Neil
    @Rhin0Neil 10 років тому

    Great video. Is there any kind of lubricant you could put on them to stop them locking up or should they stay dry?

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Rhin0Neil Thanks Buddy, you want them to stay dry, any lube will attract and hold onto the brake dust/Grit n shit, so they will clog sooner. Just keep em dry and rinse them well in the winter with cold water to keep the salt away.
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

    • @Rhin0Neil
      @Rhin0Neil 10 років тому

      Mr & Mrs B's Brain Dump thanks.. Was not too sure as some bloke in USA calls them buttons, and puts oil on his..
      ua-cam.com/video/nqcHw_t3QlU/v-deo.htmlm45s

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Rhin0Neil Wow that's a long bolt! As for oil, what do you think? Adding oil to you brake disc? lol - No, no oil or grease just dry. The idea of adding lubricant to brake discs is a whole world of wrong, it will fling out across the disc! No thanks!

  • @hughchristian1976
    @hughchristian1976 9 років тому

    Great idea using a drill. Thanks brother.

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  9 років тому

      +Hugh Christian You're welcome Bro! Cheers
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @dawnrobb8809
    @dawnrobb8809 10 років тому

    I'm thinking of installing floating rotors on my Sportster they'd cost just over $100= each & I'd do it myself I've never had floating rotors are they worth the $ & work over fixed rotors? How often do you have to does this maintainance?

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому +1

      Robert Robb Hi Robert, I would not worry about the rear, but on the front would be a nice upgrade, they prevent disc warp and help with a good clean bite on the disc/rotor for improved braking and reliability.
      Normal use would see you doing this maybe once or twice a year. Personally I do it two or three times a year, after all, it's you only main way of stopping!
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @stephenlepore4476
    @stephenlepore4476 Рік тому

    thanks man!

  • @RevvedUpBiker
    @RevvedUpBiker 10 років тому

    Many thanks for this video!! It's something to think about and check on my bike.... which I'm looking at purchasing this week! Yeah!!! :)

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      ***** Awesome, look forward to the reveal!
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

    • @RevvedUpBiker
      @RevvedUpBiker 10 років тому

      Mr & Mrs B's Brain Dump Been in contact with the loan company, who have been farting around for the past month, now to be told it's not going to be sorted for another week!!! For F%^$ sakes!!!!
      [Incredibly RevvedUp(not-quite-yet)Biker!!!]

  • @SkeggyCruiser
    @SkeggyCruiser 10 років тому

    Nice Job Mr B, it's just another timely reminder to get mine done, getting cold out now though so I'll have to set the Gazebo up, lol, nice bit of graphics work in the video halfway through just incase there are any thicko's out there who didn't get how it's done, does the Busa how a solid disc on the back? mine does, just wondered if it's pretty normal to have solid disc on the back when there floating on the front, my reason for asking is that this is the first bike i've had in years that has had a rear disc brake as daft as it my seem, you have to bare in mind most of my past bikes have been British Classics, cheers bro RSMF RI.

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Hi Skeggy, yeah most bikes have a solid rear disc, little experiment with Graphics lol. Yeah I understand all the classics have drum brakes on the rear. :o)
      Get that gazebo up! lol
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @banditBrian
    @banditBrian 10 років тому

    Done mine back in April may do them again. Plus i like the drill very handie was using a socket wrench bolt washers and not slower but did the job. Will look at the drill. ..

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Good stuff buddy, yeah the drill is a little nugget, anything to make things quicker!
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @DenniLund
    @DenniLund 8 років тому +1

    Great video, thx very much :-)

  • @nigelworrall7551
    @nigelworrall7551 3 роки тому

    Just had an advisory on my motorcycles MOT, it states that there is too much movement on the front nearside disc(caused by lose bobbins).
    Needs to be replaced..

  • @toshtwentythree195
    @toshtwentythree195 10 років тому

    Great video mate...lovely camera angle...

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Tosh twentythree Many thanks Tosh! :o)
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @kaisers30
    @kaisers30 5 років тому

    What is this for???

  • @eskertoo
    @eskertoo Рік тому

    I have never seen this in a motorcycle manual....only on UA-cam.

  • @butrint904
    @butrint904 5 років тому

    Where can i find this in the manual??????????? Didnt think so.

    • @gorgon9786
      @gorgon9786 2 роки тому

      No of not,! They want you to buy a new set of disc's.. And pads!..

  • @sosnikov
    @sosnikov 6 років тому

    Where could I by that kind of stand to the front of a bike? I've been looking same kind fo stand from everywhere.

    • @antibullshit1082
      @antibullshit1082 4 роки тому

      Check your local motorcycle shop that sells parts, these are front and rear paddoct stands.

  • @1-shotslinger108
    @1-shotslinger108 7 років тому +1

    My KTM service manager tells me if I make y KTM brake fully float I will have all kinds of rapid wear problems. I never heard of this. I want full floating effect so no drag. Anyone agree with him?

    • @1-shotslinger108
      @1-shotslinger108 4 роки тому

      @@breakwood8531 Mine float they have been replaced with Ducati bobbins. Already " fixed"

    • @gorgon9786
      @gorgon9786 2 роки тому

      Set free your forks and calipers every time your having the wheel of... There are some superb videos on YT, by Mr. Dave Moss..

  • @wyvernbiker
    @wyvernbiker 10 років тому

    I had no idea they even needed doing. Is it possible to do without a drill?

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому +1

      wyvernbiker Blimey! - Well you can use a socket or spanner - just takes longer, I know you have no tools, maybe time to start off a tool kit?
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

    • @kennethhughes3275
      @kennethhughes3275 5 років тому +1

      Ive owned busas kwackers hondas yamahas ducatis all with floating and have never had a problem with bobbins in 40 years of riding ive got a set ofbusa discs in front of me now and the bobbibs a solid and dont move they are not supposed to move if the do move forwards on the bobbins I would be worried they are designed to flex not rotate

  • @suffolkandy
    @suffolkandy 10 років тому

    Like a boss mate good vid rs

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Suffolk Andy Many Thanks Andy :)
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @bkingpaul1144
    @bkingpaul1144 10 років тому

    keep em coming mr b I would like to see a brake pad vid R,S,M8

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      Gixxer 14 Cheers, brake pads eh? I think my rear needs doing soon. Added to the list :o)
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @steviezxr
    @steviezxr Рік тому

    Anyone successfully improved the appearance/painted their bobbins? Tricky item to improve.

  • @CalmBiker
    @CalmBiker 10 років тому

    Very artistic :-)

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому

      CalmBiker Thanks, thought I would try my hand to a bit of graphics :o)
      Cheers Buddy
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @miketripoli1301
    @miketripoli1301 Рік тому

    Just use an easy out instead of fumbling with a bolt, quicker, easier

  • @sorenaarbabi2264
    @sorenaarbabi2264 3 роки тому

    Not using WD40 or silicone spray after cleaning?

  • @justinbustin677
    @justinbustin677 5 років тому

    Just for expansion

  • @robertkacala
    @robertkacala 8 років тому

    my one don't move at all :/

  • @AwareWolfOnWheels
    @AwareWolfOnWheels 10 років тому

    Well done, you didn't drop it.

    • @BraindumpTv
      @BraindumpTv  10 років тому +1

      Southern Fried Thanks for your support, Bust a move Tom! FURITP xD
      RSMF-*RI*
      Mr B

  • @callumlawrence1427
    @callumlawrence1427 4 роки тому

    Some higher end EBC discs have square sided bobbins - search EBC SD system - making this activity obsolete...shouldn't be doing it in the first place irrelevant of bobbin type. They aren't there for side to side movement of the disc. If they are loose they need replacing or new discs...expensive

  • @craigthompson1794
    @craigthompson1794 5 років тому

    Copper grease will be out next

  • @ianturley8791
    @ianturley8791 4 роки тому +3

    I genuinely think that you should definitely not do that!!
    ever!!!
    They should only be loose when the brakes are very hot.. If you make the bobbins loose when the brakes are cold,
    they will be too loose when the brakes do get hot..
    Well, thats how i learned it..

  • @dynodom4677
    @dynodom4677 3 роки тому

    Semi floating at best.
    Proper full float disks are BETTER

  • @triv7252
    @triv7252 4 роки тому +1

    Utter bullsh*t - your bobbins aren't supposed to rotate. There's a bevel washer in there to allow for thermal expansion and it needs to be very tight. Why do you think EBC bobbins are square and can't rotate? Because there's no need for the bobbins to move, unless you know more than an internationally renowned brake manufacturer?

    • @gorgon9786
      @gorgon9786 2 роки тому +1

      Then you don't call it floating system.?.

  • @harrycalibra
    @harrycalibra 3 роки тому

    Sorry you are wrong you do not do this - EBC have redesigned the bobbins to be oval so you can not rotated them this is copy and pasted from the EBC web site - EBC use a patented system called Square Drive or SD for short whereby the “pockets” in the brake rotor blade and alloy hub are milled with flat sides and allow the use of a square or flat sided rivet to connect the parts together. (see photo above). This system offers HUGE advantages over standard rotors by delivering a LINE contact between the components that spreads the braking load over 20 times as much surface area as standard full circle or round brake rotor rivets. link to the site here ebcbrakes.com/articles/best-motorcycle-brake-discs-or-rotors/

    • @kubo16ful
      @kubo16ful 7 місяців тому

      Yes one disc is different so this is wrong for all discs. Fuck off

  • @stefankraut8137
    @stefankraut8137 5 років тому +6

    Hahaa... absolute BS ... why they have to rotate?? Stoopid like a Boss 🤣

    • @butrint904
      @butrint904 5 років тому +1

      The disk has to rotate so they act as bearings??? ... DONT BE DAFT, LEAVE THOSE BOBBINS ALONE.

    • @bocfat
      @bocfat 4 роки тому

      thermal expansion of rotor by up to 2 mm, do your research

    • @gorgon9786
      @gorgon9786 2 роки тому

      When you buy them new, they have freeplay, right,.. My experience is when the bobbins get full of crud and grime, they starts getting incredible noisy,.. Sometimes unbearable.. If you then wants to get rid of noise, you wash them out, spinning them will make that happen!.. Also a freeplay will let less heat into your inner disc..

  • @KingBroleslaw
    @KingBroleslaw Рік тому

    No

  • @gertscheper9653
    @gertscheper9653 6 років тому +12

    Utter nonsense.

    • @JEEPSERIOUS
      @JEEPSERIOUS 5 років тому +2

      100% utter nonsense, do not service your rotor like this

  • @TheShukladhvaj
    @TheShukladhvaj 4 роки тому +1

    Please stop giving bad advice to people. Please.

  • @Questchaun
    @Questchaun 4 роки тому

    Fuck this is a dumb thing to do.
    Bobbins don't rotate on new bikes./new discs.

  • @MsMicheal12345
    @MsMicheal12345 5 років тому +4

    youtuber ….WORKSHOP ...will explain why this is utter nonense

  • @fb3824
    @fb3824 9 місяців тому

    this is wrong

  • @cyberkiller83
    @cyberkiller83 2 роки тому

    WTF! This is totally nonsense. In fact i think you are doing more bad than good, someday you will get your precious bobbins out of the disk and your disk will make a mess.
    This is nothing recommended by any manual, in fact i know by a fact that there is some bobbins with shapes that prevent rotating, this is weird, why someone would do this?