Floyd Patterson vs Tom McNeeley
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- 4th December 1961 - Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
World Heavyweight title - 2nd defence in his 2nd reign by Patterson
A crowd of 7,814 at Maple Leaf Gardens paid $100,740.
Patterson earned about $300,000 and McNeeley $125,000.
referee: Jersey Joe Walcott
Every time I watch one of my Dad's old fights, I recognize all his cornerman. Buster and Dan. We were kids and they always were nice to us when we see them at his training camp.
Wow your Floyd Patterson’s son😮
Where's yo brother that fought Gatti twice yo
I got an autographed photo and a nice autographed boxing card from your dad back in the 1990's I had them proudly displayed in my man cave. I had to give that room up. Everything is packed away now but someday I will have my man cave back again. I will try to send you some pics of them. He always such a gentleman and I know you were proud of him.
There's so much lore in old school boxing.
Cus d'amato => Patterson, who fought McNeeley,
who in his turn got a son who went on to fight Tyson,
who was discovered by.. Cus d'amato.
The circle.
And the referee, Jersey Joe Walcott (former world champ who lost itlte to Marciano), would go on the make a mess of the second Ali-Liston fight, allowing Nat Fleischer at ringside have a say about whether Sonny had been counted out or not.
@@ronaldlevao8251 lol didn't even know jersey joe went on to ref, thanks for the two cents there bud
Will I love the action
Floyd Peterson always conducted himself as a gentleman and class acts. Because he was just that.
This is Peter mcneely’s dad The guy who fought mike Tyson
Cus d'amato => Patterson, who fought McNeeley,
who in his turn got a son who went on to fight Tyson,
who was discovered by.. Cus d'amato.
The circle.
@@joerivandeweyer3056 It's all in the family
@@TheWorld-of7dd Archie Bunker?
@@joerivandeweyer3056 Man if you know that,you're really old🤣
@@TheWorld-of7dd there's something called spontaneous inquiry. In this day and age, info like that is a few mouseclicks away. But yeah no youre right 31 and when i take the train packed with young'uns i feel like a boomer
Tom McNeely had
a lot of heart. Great fight
That may be so, but Patterson was better than him in every way, so much so that he won the fight.
@@carloshenriquethomaz2578true,the McNeely's are pretty gutsy and had a lot of heart definitely,too bad the Cus D'amato family whoops em.
9 knockdowns that guy would keep coming
That post-fight interview was gold. McNeeley congratulated Floyd, who also complimented his rival. I really like Patterson's personality in general, it's genuine sportmanship. Cus D'Amato didn't make him any favour protecting him imho.
Wait what’re u talking bout with cus defending him??
@@dababy8017 My take is, Cus D'Amato protected him and convinced him to avoid the best fighters, but that strategy didn't pay off in the long run. He make Floyd fight good opponents but not the best ones. Because of this, people didn't respected him enough, and he didn't progressed that much as a fighter. Had he fight the best right at the beginning, he might had lost a few times, but that experience would've served him later on. Instead, he was protected by Cus, and Floyd probably didn't know the extend of his capabilities. You know the rest: when he started fighting the top guys, he suffered both in and out of the ring. Of course, I'm just a fan and this is just my opinion... Both Cus and Floyd are all time greats
@@CarlosPerezESP
You would say that Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey were protected or, protected themselves in a cowardly way. Whenever Tyson or Patterson win fights, the credit goes to the white man i.e. Cus. This is very wrong, unethical, it is in fact a crime.
@@carloshenriquethomaz2578 I don't have any problem saying that champions play their cards, they don't want to lose the title easily (see Tyson Fury now, and I hate that). Some of them is because they want to (Marciano, Dempsey, the others pre-Johnson), some of them were protected, like Floyd. I think Floyd wanted (and shouldve) fought Liston earlier. That was Cus mistake. Others, like Mayweather recently, handpicked his rivals to have better chances. That's all I'm saying man
Patterson was indeed protected by Cus, even fought a debuter while champion 🤦🏿♂️
That was a great fight.
They really used to let fights go on too long
McNeeley does it all--head butting, low blows, rabbit punches--but when you are outgunned you do what you can. It's amazing that he is under 200 pounds but still looks bigger than Floyd, who looks cool as a cucumber. Even during the second knockdown, Floyd is looking for, maybe even talking to someoone at ringside (Cus?) and Tom almost nails him, rushing in as he is distracted. But he escapes with a last-second, almost cartoonish, discovery that there's a fight going on.
Would anyone know what ranking McNeely had in this title bout?
@@jesusapolicarpio-delacruz3851 He was in the top 10, maybe 9 or 10 based on a couple recent wins over marginally top 10 boxers as I recall.
Man Tom was way more technically sound than his son. And Floyd was way more graceful than Tyson. This is definitely a better fight but still amazing that it happened twice in spirit.
Good God, why didn’t Jersey Joe stop this sooner?
Jersey Joe should not quit his day job. Yikes. Worse than Clay-Liston.
Floyd threw combinations like a whirlwind.
Jersey Joe cant help but use that jersey Joe footwork even as a referee lol u see the way he paces side to side lol when he's in the ring he just can't help but go into instinct mode
Walcott was a horrible referee
Didn’t look bad particularly in this fight
@@blackandwhiteart3790 He was awful. McNeely was down several times more but Walcott didn't count them. He also allowed should have given a mandatory 8 after the 2nd knockdown, so Patterson was at a neutral corner looking down when Walcott allowed McNeeley to get up and rush Patterson, take a wild swing that just missed floyd, who saw what was going on at the last moment and ducked the punch. Otherwise Walcott would probably have declared McNeeley the new champ! it's at 5:45 on the above video. Loved Joe as a fighter, but he was a completely inept ref.
@@leftys408 yea it’s insane looking back at it, I thought all refs should have fighting experience so they know what their doing but looking at Walcott that’s not always the case.
Identico a tyson🥊🥊
The McNeelys are 0 for 2 against cus d'amato
McNeilly was a club fighter at best
Like father like Son
All though he did get floored 11 times he did managed to land a very powerful hook the face that made Floyd stumble
@@southdragonfilms8219
And he ended up losing, because Patterson is really better. If Patterson was the one who had fallen, you wouldn't praise him, just because he's black, but that's how you racists invent all kinds of artifices and lies to say that you're superior. You're dishonest, Even when you lose, you lie and say you won.
McNeeley was awkward, clumsy and his chin was not that good. He was taller and had a longer reach but it didn't matter.
Mismatch
Geez …. What on earth was Floyd doing in third round? He was going to help McNeeley up … or what? I’ve never seen anything like that before in any fight. JJW … good lord he sucked as a ref. The fight should have been stopped in the 3rd round … maybe even after the second knockdown of the round.
McNeely was just extremely limited .
Wasn't he making his pro debut?
I think Patterson was underestimated.
@@devilface97 He'll come up with another excuse for why he lost. This one isn't convincing.
@@devilface97 No, that was Pete Rademacher. But one source described McNeeley as unranked.
MacNeely with lot of heart in boxing .
Patterson being brave and , also, at the top level during his time Era , when he was world champion, therefore in my honest opinion , Patterson was GOOD BUT NOT ONE OF THE GREATEST EVER. WHY ? SONNY LISTON AND ALI , EASILY , TOOK HIM DOWN (KO) .
GREATEST ONES EVER IN HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING BY RHE EXPERTS AND ALSO , MY OPINION :
LOUIS (With great guts and resistance, by having the longest carrer as world champion , 30s and 40s Decade) ;
MARCIANO (The only heavyweight, still Unbeatable with his incredible stamina and never giving up,until he left . 50 s Decade) ;
LISTON (by his one of most powerful punch ever, 40s /50s Decade) ;
ALI (three times world champion during the best Era of heavyweight boxing known as the Golden Age/Era, 60s and 70s Decade by winning and loosing and then winning again against great opponents ever such as Foreman , Joe Frazier , etc . Ali was an unique Stylist with Power , Agility and Footwork like no other Heavyweight Boxers had and still they haven't that during today . His reference was Sugar Ray Robinson, the great Pound per Pound) ;
FOREMAN(still the oldest world champion of all times . He fought great during the 70s as world champion , then he left as a priest and later on , back again in 90s to take the belt again as the oldest world champion . The guy had One of most powerful punch Ever like an Hammer) ;
MIKE TYSON (still the youngest world champion ever . With incredible speed , power and combinations by having an impregnable defense) ;
HOLLYFIELD (also three times world champion like Ali was . He was clever in the Ring , with great shape by studying his opponents he won such as Mike Tyson, Bowe, etc) ;
LENNOX LEWIS (he defeated once by judgment points Hollyfield, because he was younger with an incredible shape and guts and also clever in the Ring by his powerful Jabs . He also defeated great Warriors like Mike Tyson , Tua and Vitality Kiltchko.
He was still with the world champion belt when he left giving his belts disposal for the next Champs who came after) .
The Great and recent Heavyweight ones during this Millenium ,like Tyson Fury , Usyk and so on (Wilder, Joshua...) are Pros, great but not as the Greatest in the top heavyweight boxing list . Why ?
Because, they figth more for money than for Boxing. By less combats with more Money .
Before (and about the Greatest I mentioned before) fought MORE , FOR LESS MONEY AND , ALSO , WITH BETTER SKILLS, POWER AND STAMINA .
Instead of fighting the top contenders,Patterson fought Pete Radamacher( his first pro fight)! and bums like this guy and Roy 'cut&shoot' Harris.
I think Floyd patterson was a great boxer and very brave to face Sonny Liston despite the fact that he was 21 pounds lighter than Liston. Floyd Patterson was too small for a heavyweight to compete with Ali, but he did very well in their 2 fights even out of his prime and was suffering from a back injury, he still showed immense combinations and speed. He may not have been one of the greatest heavyweights but he is the most humbled and respected heavyweight ever.
Patterson was one of the biggest frauds as heavyweight champs lol.
How so?
Would you say the same about Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Primo Carnera, Max Schmeling, Max Baer and the Klitschko brothers? If you say "no" you are simply being dishonest.
Any man that laces up the gloves and goes 12 or 15 rounds in the squared circle is not a fraud.
McNeely lands two low blows (scrotum low!) at 17:15.