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All things equal, I like metal over plastic.
Agree. Cool idea but plastic is not for precision measuring.
I agree
Unless it is Chinesium?
All things equal, I like the SAC design. Oh, wait...prices aren't anywhere close to equal! I agree with your general sentiment, but I had to pick on you for starting it with "All things equal" when they couldn't be farther from it. :)
I would generally agree, but if you dont really have money to spend it would be better to get this than not having anything at all...
Holy $h!t man 2 videos in 2 days... Christmas came early this year!!! LOL I have the whole Hornady bullet/head space comparator kit but I've always wondered about these. Thanks for the info and great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
People get all wrapped around the axel about one thousand of an inch or even the loonacy of 1/2 thousand. open your caliper up so it reads one thousand of an inch and look at that gap, bet most if not all people out there can't even see it, also, some of that inaccuracy is just from finger pressure on the measurement tool. If people want their world to end and that's the way they want to live their life, well,, so be it. live your life and don't worry about it. -Dave
Love the 2+ minute, 30 second break down, of what a comparator is! Videos are so long but always glad I stay to the end!
My guess would be that most people couldn't measure a half a thou accurately and those people that can couldn't make an adjustment for it accurately.
Good shit brother. I'm a Thrifty Ass and haven't been able to pull the trigger on the Hornady set.
You had me wondering why big tymers started playing in my truck for a split second. I had to rewind the video twice to make sure it wasn’t an iPhone glitch lol
That Saami drawing was really helpful for me. I found the website,downloaded the file and printed it out and laminated it! Really cool!
If I found my magic round, I would make a dummy round of that round and then if the plastic warped or degraded I would be able to make the appropriate changes if it was reading deeper...you know for comparison.
YES.
I don't do it often but I have one of my 175smk load and my 62 gold dot load in my dresser drawer.
I have a Gladware sandwich box full of dummy rounds that are loaded to my final dimensions. I also make a fully prepped and trimmed case so I have a reference to set up my bench trimmer. I do it with every single round I load.
I've got one and its never given me any problems. A few of my loads shoot .3 moa, so I'd say it works just fine for me, but i made a jig that holds my calipers , so it's hands-free when I use it
Thanks . I don’t know how long the plastic will last. I think I will stay with the more expensive metal ones.Good idea though. Maybe better than I expect.
Cool stuff!! I never thought to sell them i just whipped them up for my own needs after buying the first hornady comparator
When you start doubting the integrity of your measuring tools, you lose confidence in whatever you are doing...............
i literally just bought this. thanks for the review
like a feeler gauge you don't force the measurement. if you are pushing the gauge you should get bad readings.
i would be worried about wear over time on the plastic. so you should have a test round or case that has the measurement written down that you check against. every 500 or so rounds check that the item still gives the same reading.
my day job is boilers and chillers so i check stuff a lot because steam burns hurt. lol
Next up: 3D printed press! Haha. I'd say you should get a 3D printer but man they can be a pain, it really is for someone who loves tinkering. I recently got one to take place of reloading for a bit so I can have something to mess around with. Figured I might as well do something while the shortages are here. I have seen powder coming back in stock so maybe it's finally starting to end?
Thanks for the review and trying out these items. This is what I've been waiting for.
on magnet end just drill and thread a hole and put a screw in it to tighten to caliper
The weakest link in your measuring is the calipers. Even though the dies were made for it, you might want to try a parallel and a height gage. Just snugging threads may only put two flank points in contact. More pressure increases the engagement.
you can drill & tap 3d printed material to use a grub screw which may be a solution to the play in the piece. obviously you can not go crazy on the torque when tightening but it could just solve the problem.
20:50 you need to print your own now with a narrower slot for a nice interference fit.
Hey, would be interesting to know if the comparators change dimension with humidity. Some plastics swell a bit with moisture. Not a problem when measuring a shoulder bump, but could be a problem trying to get a consistent CBTO from batch to batch. Could be an interesting experiment….
I had that thought too.
lmfaoo loved that BG input
I have that same set. I drilled and tapped it for a thumb screw and I'm happy with it. I have the Hornady one for bullets. It's really hard plastic so I'm not worried about it stretching or wearing. I wish the grove in the plastic with the magnet was just a touch thinner so it would be tighter on the caliper.
What size thumb screw did you use
@@Boomerfootball1 I don't know I just found one in my junk drawer and drilled and tapped a hole to match it
I like that they're trying to 3D print everything now a days but I don't trust something that can dent that easily. I'll stick with Hornady. I will say though that hornady could have done a better job centering their comparators to fit the caliper.
Yeah all it would have taken would be a tiny aluminum ring bushing pressed in and then kissed with a reamer to increase the durability a lot. It's probably a part you could get off of McMaster for one or two cents each. Or in their case AliExpress. Really doesn't matter how precise the original hole is if you're going to open it up a little.
Maybe just set one loaded dummy round or an actual dummy around per comparator to use as a calibration gauge and then every now and then compare it to the calibrated dummy round to see if it's drifting.
Just got the oGive set for a Christmas 🎄 gift 🎁 from my mother-in-law. Still mess around with them on the feel
This video was really good. I just ordered bought sets. Thanks for the info.
I own both sets, have had no issues at all. Have not experienced the wobble of the base on the caliper leg.
Could you drill a hole then tap it and use a set screw to hold the piece tightly onto your caliber blade?
I like how the "30 second demo" timer changes about every 1.75 seconds.
I wouldn't actually want the threads to be tight. That could cause it to use the threads tightening as the indexing datum. Having the shoulder do all the work is going to be the most precise you could get out of the part whether it's 3D printed or made by stock removal. But that's going to be amplified with a 3D printed.
So that part isn't really a problem to me and I had the same thought as you about putting a witness mark. I'm a little bit more concerned about getting debris stuck to the magnet and throwing off my readings.
I'm starting to work up a load with Barnes 168grain ttsxbt bullets and benchmark powder
"We can deal with this amount of slop!" That's a t-shirt!
Cool product have look into it maybe be cool option for know to try out as new reloader save few $$ plus only plan to load plinking in hunting ammo.
This is great especially for a rookie funding just disappears getting into reloading
Thanks for the jump scare
Man that's pretty cool. I'd be afraid that the bullet comparators would wear in over time and form a little "chamfer" after long use. Hell even with aluminium you see rounding over time. But for headspace? That is great AND the angles are more modest there.
I bought the Hornady Headspace and CBTO set. It’s design based on edge/line contact did not give me the repeatability I wanted.
Try a 30 cal bullet comparitor for 223 headspace. It lands further up the shoulder
I seem to recall that kinda timer joke from a video recently.
If you just reload plinking ammo there is no doubt there is value there in the headspace comparator.
if it was an issue, I would drill & tap to put a set screw in it. Still easy and cheaper.
Drill and tap hole for a screw like with the metal ones , you will just need. A thicker screw and what that have
It must take them forever to print each kit.
As time goes on will the edge of the comparators bevel so the readings are off ?? So many questions with that because they are plastic??
Probably same can be asked of the aluminum of the hornady over time. But if used strictly as a comparator to compare values during that session vs comparing values years later I doubt you'll notice. Not to mention can you 100% guarantee you set the comparator up the same way use after use, years later?
Awesome video
Should have got ya one of them liquid powder volumetric injectors.
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Just curious how this comparator is working for you a few months down the track. Have you continued using them or have you switched back to the Hornady set? Did you find a way to fix the wobble?
I'd be here for the timers, even if I didn't learn anything.
Yes you are.
Johnny where are the cast bullets for the mosin nagant series? It's been five years my guy.
Plastic is great for many things. Precision measuring with consistency is not one of them. For the bullet comparator I'd be worried about wear where it contacts the ogive.
I’m sure those would be a cheaper way to go. Hopefully, they don’t cost as much as hornady stuff
I got one of those and found it to be completely unusable bc of the loose, wobbly fit
Hmm , how accurate is the 3D Headspace Comparator sets after few months in use ?
Have you or will you do a load development for a 45-70 Henry model X
So it is crap! Thanks Johnny! Can it be used, sure but ehhh, No! This is one time I will pay for at least Hornady!
Wonder how temperature would affect them
Is "seasoning" the threads a thing if they're plastic?
It sets really low on the shoulder. Please set up a die and resize and compare!!??? Great video as always. Thank you
My mics are ss...unless not 316 or high carbon or something, is a magnet gonna stick, urs say ss on them?
Sir stop showing me things lol. My wife is going to kill me.
I would venture to guess that every caliper manufacturer has different thicknesses of metal. The Hornady comparator set allows for this difference with the thumb screw. If I could do it over I would absolutely buy this printed set.
Quite expensive for something 3D printed.
Makes no sense they don't print each size as a complete piece instead of copying the Hornady 2 piece model
When the cold weather sets in, I plan on firing up FreeCad to design these as single pieces
Aw hell - someone already did this - thingiverse item 2108610
Freedom!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I just looked at those FART extractors. for $200.00 I will hard pass. EDIT: scratch that $20.00, I checked his website. Great price and have ordered it.
I ordered those. Found them to be completely unusable. I emailed the company. They never responded, and I see they never made any improvements
Lmao 😂 bling bling 💎 💎 💎
So the whole set is $65!!! WOW!!!
Do not get the Hornady anvil! They suck really bad, it makes it much harder than just using the bare calipers...
first?
Can I get your email address iv got some questions on some reloading I’ve been doing
Bout as useful as a plastic square....
I need to stop watching your videos with earbuds in. That "bling bling" scared the shit out of me while I was cooking.
ugggggggggg, 3D printed tooling, ohhhhh boyyyyy. No thanks!
Cute but no. Way too much flex in that plastic. Just buy a decent set. Good try though.
And don't get me wrong. I'm supportive of small businesses and 3d printing. Just not this application.
There was not flex in the tool, it was pressure one the gauge
Throw this garbage out. You really should know better.
Since you have gone to twitch your UA-cam videos have severely suffered to which I am going to unsuscribe.
Bye felicia
😂😂
Not sure how the UA-cam videos have suffered. There are fewer of them but I appreciate anyone who's spending their time to make videos for which UA-cam will run ads but not monetize for the creator.
Why did you even feel the need to comment this?
Okay Blair. Your loss.