Bub Speed Trials Sept 2008 @ the Bonneville Salt Flats. The MPH listed on this video are from our best run. The actual MPH for this run is slighily less.
@@jakebradley5357 hahahahaha only that? Really? Its not that easy. Even with very large gear ratios, how do you come to the power band? And wind drag? Mecanical losses?
@@jakebradley5357 You may not understand that with higher gearing comes higher load, requiring the engine to have more force (torque) or delivering the same torque at higher speed (power) to accelerate further.
@Sharron Clark gearing, Peak power, areo and the chassis. Your standard 6hp moped won't ever do 150 even with a 10mile run and gearing changes there is a point where power matters so.you have to do a LOT of tuning work.to.get this sort of setup.
@@rajalarasmus swap to something that is a 17 inch wheel with a rated motorcycle tyre and you are fine there. You have to go to modern sports bike tyres at that speed you won't get a scooter wheel rated for it. The last 9-11" tyre I knew of rated for 100mph was in the 80's for a race series that ran with the motogp series and led to the mad suzuki that did 65 in street trim and 95 when the factory guys tuned it.
I once raced a NSU TT 1000 in America autocross b class due to driver sickness, those things stick to the track like glue and those 4 Weber carbs are sucking air n gas to make an awesome sounding high rev motor , oh I took second place behind a track built 66 six cylinder mustang that was heavily modified and surprised everyone
all you need to do is replace the chassis with a new lightweight recumbent one, ideally aluminium or carbon fibre, then design and build your own streamlined bodywork, low rolling resistance tyres, new gearbox and transmission, and new engine components, then your xp will go 200km/h, however it wouldn't really be an xp anymore.
Not if we all drove 140 m.p.h. This fellow probably burned 10 gallons of gas to go 10 miles. My 50cc scooter gets 110 mpg but does not go quite as fast, ha ha.
Removing Safety equipment would save millions and millions of barrels of oil. For your car to have aerodynamics much better than what most cars have now would cost tens of thousands of $ more would cause your car to have much mind ch higher repair costs in minor accidents. For a price every aspect could be improved how much money do you want to spend? Here I think you will find this interesting and explains the situation with respect to reality . ua-cam.com/video/jltnBOrCB7I/v-deo.html
buddfab I know this is old by 11 years. At the Isle of Man in the 60's the works Suzuki 50 cc bikes had 14 speed gearboxes. That's what's needed or similar as you were still accelerating through the measured mile. 150 mph is still impressive.
With a smooth tarmac stretch of 10K or 6Miles he could easily be doing 160 - 170 Miles/Hour ... and that is 272Km/H ... and that is AMAZING. 150M/H = 240Km/H under far less than ideal circumstances ... one word WOW !!
Amazing !!! I didn't think 50cc were capable of that speed, then you did it again on a 125cc ! I think the power to weight ratio actually fears You ! Keep up the great work ! ; )
Bonneville has been the collector of many melted pistons on many record seekers. When you're running a nitro bike, anything can happen. It doesn't necessarily have to be something wrong with the mix. EGT's are critical in keeping these mouse motors together. When you get above 1200F., things start getting dicey, but it's also the range where they produce the most horsepower, so it's a fine line between making the record or seizing the engine.😉
Not just when stuff is wrong tbh you push a bike to the extremes of performance on the ragged edge of the power it can produce then run it at WOT in a high altitude environment you are going to see issues.
Recumbent chassis, larger wheels than a moment, built for extreme rpm limits and probably producing treble the power of a road going scooter at that peak rpm and using fuel additives/higher octane fuels like nitromethane
I would like to see the numbers wind resistance weight of the vehicle horsepower of the engine how the engine put out that much horse how much did the wet Rider weigh I'd like to see the numbers that's very interesting
well it didn't turn out to be a, pgt xp evo2 anyway i got a derbi Drd X-treme 2011 this summer ( 6 gear 50cc , similar performances like am6 except its an piaggio engine )
-6 for my comment lol :P! but it's nicely done, friend of mine has doppler 50cc but he broke it. The cilinder got stuck why this won't get stuck at those amazing high speed?
I once managed to get a huge run down a long steep hill on my modified Aprilia Sr50 it was tuned to fuck by the time I reached the speed reader at the bottom of the hill near a 30mph it read 79mph 😂😂 but my ped sounded like it was gonna blow up
If an itom could do 90+ In the 60's and Suzuki beat the world with their race bikes Then when yamaha took a 125 around the isle of man doing 100 mph lap. its no surprise that this is faster than a standard bmw. Just people dont realize 2 strokes fly.
Dear Sir, anytime you'd be willing to get 150 mph from a Lambretta 150 or 200 I'd be willing to let you loose on mine! Seriously though, thanks for some exciting viewing.
Skunkdog Gro My guess, judging by the sound of it and the displacement is 20bhp perhaps? If tuned right... Still HP is always the measurement of a car/bike performance, when it shouldn´t be. There are millions of other factors that alter the machine´s performance
This is pretty amazing. The future however will be a world of magnetic powered cars. The magnets will be computer isolated and activated inside one of the wheels on bikes and 2 on cars. Free POWERFUL energy without the use of ANY fuel.
Energy cannot be created, nor destroyed, only transformed/changed. Free energy is perpetual motion, which is impossible. What we need is hyper efficiency through the clever use of magnets and gears, capacitors, transformers and battery banks, and much more crap I can't think of.... kind of like a hybrid charging itself, but considerably more efficient.
granted it got to 150mph and well done!!! but my god how slow was its acceleration you could have gotten of and pushed it for the first quater mile faster lol
Ok lets see. Its 50cc and you have a goal of max top end. What the hell are you worried about acceleration for. You cant have both. Everything is a tradeoff. Most of the fastest cars must be pushed up to 100 mph or so by a pit truck because they are geared too high to even move without smoking a clutch. This bike actually took off fairly strong at low speed. Not to mention you are on salt. It doesnt give traction for wheelie launches.
when you hold a 50cc piston in your hand its amazing how small they are, to achieve 150mph from one is mind boggling
Kevin Jones gearing is why
@@jakebradley5357 hahahahaha only that? Really? Its not that easy. Even with very large gear ratios, how do you come to the power band? And wind drag? Mecanical losses?
@@jakebradley5357
No, most of them drive 100 through dethrottling. Turbo and Mehtanol injection do it
@@jakebradley5357 Yeah, all you do is change the gearing and you can go as fast as you want, right? Of course!
@@jakebradley5357
You may not understand that with higher gearing comes higher load, requiring the engine to have more force (torque) or delivering the same torque at higher speed (power) to accelerate further.
The fact of that last shift just IMPRESSED ME!
You are my Hero bubfab. I'm 70 yrs old and this takes me back to my brigs and straton powered homemade motor scooter. you are living my dream.
OMG! Still awesome in 2019, I'll never look at moped or old Honda 50cc the same again, great video!
150mph with just a 50cc engine? Incredible.
Sharron Clark and aerodynamics
@Sharron Clark gearing, Peak power, areo and the chassis.
Your standard 6hp moped won't ever do 150 even with a 10mile run and gearing changes there is a point where power matters so.you have to do a LOT of tuning work.to.get this sort of setup.
@@jediknight1294 also grip is needed
@@rajalarasmus swap to something that is a 17 inch wheel with a rated motorcycle tyre and you are fine there. You have to go to modern sports bike tyres at that speed you won't get a scooter wheel rated for it.
The last 9-11" tyre I knew of rated for 100mph was in the 80's for a race series that ran with the motogp series and led to the mad suzuki that did 65 in street trim and 95 when the factory guys tuned it.
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150 mph sounds fast until you realize a streamliner bicycle using pedal power hit 90 mph /144 kph on a Nevada highway.
Now every moped age guys are thinking that their Peugeot XP´s and Minarelli powered or some other mopeds will go 240km/h just by changing jets...
Juha Manninen I hope you are not serious.
Wait, what? Do you mean it will not? Haha
Ridiculous , you have to take off the Air cleaner to get that kinda power , geez everyone knows that.
Used to get 28mph from my Nsu. Useful toilet provision.
I once raced a NSU TT 1000 in America autocross b class due to driver sickness, those things stick to the track like glue and those 4 Weber carbs are sucking air n gas to make an awesome sounding high rev motor , oh I took second place behind a track built 66 six cylinder mustang that was heavily modified and surprised everyone
Nsu Quick?
Job vd Boom look up racing NSU
the most beautiful liner ever, go you good thing!
all you need to do is replace the chassis with a new lightweight recumbent one, ideally aluminium or carbon fibre, then design and build your own streamlined bodywork, low rolling resistance tyres, new gearbox and transmission, and new engine components, then your xp will go 200km/h, however it wouldn't really be an xp anymore.
is anyone else rocking forward for more speed.....?
going back to this video from time to time to see that a 50cc is not al about slow puttering around the town.
Aerodynamics could save millions and millions of barrels of oil.
Not if we all drove 140 m.p.h. This fellow probably burned 10 gallons of gas to go 10 miles. My 50cc scooter gets 110 mpg but does not go quite as fast, ha ha.
But then the cars wouldn't fit into little spaces like rectangular blocks.
Removing Safety equipment would save millions and millions of barrels of oil. For your car to have aerodynamics much better than what most cars have now would cost tens of thousands of $ more would cause your car to have much mind ch higher repair costs in minor accidents.
For a price every aspect could be improved how much money do you want to spend?
Here I think you will find this interesting and explains the situation with respect to reality .
ua-cam.com/video/jltnBOrCB7I/v-deo.html
We Americans are not aerodynamic, we're obese.
@@paulman8239 Speak for yourself "fatty".I have heavy-duty tires on my fat scooter and I'm not fat.😁
buddfab
I know this is old by 11 years.
At the Isle of Man in the 60's the works Suzuki 50 cc bikes had 14 speed gearboxes. That's what's needed or similar as you were still accelerating through the measured mile. 150 mph is still impressive.
Holy balls dude 150 ! I thought you got 144!!!! You are a legend, a master, a wizard, and yes, the FASTEST (50cc) IN THE UNIVERSE!
50cc has so much potential :) 100 km/h with a few mods to a road bike or scooter is normal !
Ha!
No.
@@orppranator5230 Ha! Yes.
HA NO !!
That engine (Turbo charged) is very very complex just look at it before you say anyone could do this !!!
What is not to like about comepeting at Bonneville 😍
Anybody else notice how he shut down and pulled right up to the port-a-potty?? Musta been one hella ride.
Great video of a awesome ride in a tiny motored rocket. Nice job.
Super impressive considering it's got the displacement of a weed eater motor!
Its actualy even less than most.
With a smooth tarmac stretch of 10K or 6Miles he could easily be doing 160 - 170 Miles/Hour ... and that is 272Km/H ... and that is AMAZING.
150M/H = 240Km/H under far less than ideal circumstances ... one word WOW !!
Motor started sitting down at the bottom of 5th. Still pulled through.
insane speed for a 50cc
metrakit pro race power!
im riding the 70cc version, fantastic cilinder!
Amazing !!! I didn't think 50cc were capable of that speed, then you did it again on a 125cc ! I think the power to weight ratio actually fears You ! Keep up the great work ! ; )
Test and research giant that's awesome 🔥
It’s amazing in 2022!!!
My dream is make fastest 50cc 4t engine, I think it’s real to realize firstly as a record of Ukraine or as a record of Europe.
Amazing, great job guys!
You know its a screamer when its still 4 strokin at 10 grand. Im sure Bonneville can be a piston melter for 2 strokes
Pistons melt when something is wrong!
Bonneville has been the collector of many melted pistons on many record seekers. When you're running a nitro bike, anything can happen. It doesn't necessarily have to be something wrong with the mix. EGT's are critical in keeping these mouse motors together. When you get above 1200F., things start getting dicey, but it's also the range where they produce the most horsepower, so it's a fine line between making the record or seizing the engine.😉
Dan W ok yeah you’re right but people that hate 2strokes because a piston melted on a production bike are just stupid
Not just when stuff is wrong tbh you push a bike to the extremes of performance on the ragged edge of the power it can produce then run it at WOT in a high altitude environment you are going to see issues.
That's truly insane!
Thats fantastic, I have a yamaha FS1E 1977 it would be fantatsic to make it go like that! well done
With enough money you can get them to do 70 and thats sketchy enough tbh.
Did you sell it because ethe prices are insane now
What's that rev-limit kind of sound at 3:09 ? thank you
Most likely air in the fuel lines, or a timing issue
Increible me quedo sin palabaras,enhorabuena por el record.
P.D:Larga vida a los motores de 2 tiempos.
Very awesome !
Impresionante!! 🤠🤠🤠✅✅✅
Nice Job and thanks for sharing
this is the engine that install on aprilia rs 50cc
on old version, all new Aprilia hat d50b0
WOW 🥺 awesome 👍👍👍
Am6 engine ;)
@IseeRightThrough2you Arpilia rs50 engine, if i remember correctly, buddfabdotnet.
I do believe it was an aprillia motor
@@jasonjessup8078 Am6-Rieju Derbi and Aprilia d50b0
...bloody hell!! :)
How much gas does it hold and how much did you use for that? WHY CANT MY SFV650 BREAK 125MPH?!
Amazing that these little bikes can go so fast...whats the secret?
Recumbent chassis, larger wheels than a moment, built for extreme rpm limits and probably producing treble the power of a road going scooter at that peak rpm and using fuel additives/higher octane fuels like nitromethane
@@jediknight1294 fals
Turbo and Mehtanol injection do it, just google fastest 50ccm bikes
awesome...god damn!!!! 50cc..........
rock on!
this has been like my child hood dream lmao!
2-3 shift on 68? on that speed im in 6th on a KTM duke 125, 5th on my CBR 125. or in 3rd in my explorer. fuck whats the gearing on this thing? :D
the duke and cbr are so fucking slow, a 125 two stroke easily beats them
your standing quarter mile time is 42 seconds.
Why so few gears? I remember the 50 cc GP racing bikes in Europe had something like 12 gears?
F. Mako Koiwai this is a top speed run. It doesn't need to accelerate fast so no need for more gears.
+1 for the dixie toilet at the end :) but what a speed.
Just curious, what kind of video camera was used in this run?
The record is beat! (it's official ?)
Congratulation ;)
That's pretty impressive for a 50cc 2stroke
I would like to see the numbers wind resistance weight of the vehicle horsepower of the engine how the engine put out that much horse how much did the wet Rider weigh I'd like to see the numbers that's very interesting
233 km/h ^^
241 actually
Give me the choice between this and a Don Vesco streamliner like his early Little Red & really don't know which one I would like to be in .
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just amazing with 50cc engine! how much hp can this be??????
I'd like to read more about how you set up the engine. Was it custom made, or just specially tuned? How much BHP @ what RPM?
Twin shots of nitrous.
Twin shots of nitrous was one thing
@@jasonjessup8078 nope xD
Turbo and Mehtanol injection do it with an HQ Zylinder
@@silentgame99 budfab did have twin shot of nitrous on the 50cc bike .at least that's what they said when we were parked next to them
well it didn't turn out to be a, pgt xp evo2 anyway i got a derbi Drd X-treme 2011 this summer ( 6 gear 50cc , similar performances like am6 except its an piaggio engine )
He sure was in a hurry to get to that toilet !!!!
Nikola Tesla would be proud. AMAZING BIKE I WANT ONE. Imagine being on i-95 in south florida doing 100+ mph with cars lmfao
-6 for my comment lol :P!
but it's nicely done,
friend of mine has doppler 50cc but he broke it. The cilinder got stuck why this won't get stuck at those amazing high speed?
awsome
metrakit pro race cilinder, the powerband comes very high, the cilinder works better on scooters.
my 1958 NSU QUIKLY 2 speed would have seen that off
i'ma buy a peugeot xp evo2 soon , it has this type of engine in it :) , awesome :p
I once managed to get a huge run down a long steep hill on my modified Aprilia Sr50 it was tuned to fuck by the time I reached the speed reader at the bottom of the hill near a 30mph it read 79mph 😂😂 but my ped sounded like it was gonna blow up
👏👏👏
well done!
How much power?
Still nobody has beaten Casal 50cc without turbo 😁 good job anyways to this Minarelli
holy shit, my old puch only goes 110 km/h at the top and it spins 12000 rpm.... and its on regular fuel, i need more power.
If an itom could do 90+ In the 60's and Suzuki beat the world with their race bikes Then when yamaha took a 125 around the isle of man doing 100 mph lap. its no surprise that this is faster than a standard bmw. Just people dont realize 2 strokes fly.
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Dear Sir, anytime you'd be willing to get 150 mph from a Lambretta 150 or 200 I'd be willing to let you loose on mine! Seriously though, thanks for some exciting viewing.
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how much power does that little engine make?
+Skunkdog Gro Not too much... It´s all about in the aerodynamics and the low friction against the terrain
+thesantiso I was hoping for a number but that's a nice explanation
Skunkdog Gro My guess, judging by the sound of it and the displacement is 20bhp perhaps? If tuned right...
Still HP is always the measurement of a car/bike performance, when it shouldn´t be. There are millions of other factors that alter the machine´s performance
It said 2hp
+Trace Anthony must be super streamlined then
Metrakit pro race 50cc minarelli 👍👍
setup ??
i need that moped
no way, 50cc with 147 MPH? That makes 236 KMH..
How is that possible for a 50cc engine :S?
Twin shots of nitrous is how
Turbo and Mehtanol injection do it with an HQ Zylinder
#1
that bike must be geared up to the dog bullocks :)
It's 50 mk prorace AM6 🤣
@timmie426 like my aprilia rx 50 (75cc) am6 is the best =D
😳🤤🤘🏼
if you had 50 gears it would be easier
FARKIN' AMAZING! ROFL!
What are the engine specs ? Thanks.
Turbo and Mehtanol injection do it
0.0-------wow...this bike broke ass at my rs 125 XD
0-60mph in 127 seconds lmfao
Thumbs up if you thought that it said Bonerville. lol
This is pretty amazing. The future however will be a world of magnetic powered cars. The magnets will be computer isolated and activated inside one of the wheels on bikes and 2 on cars. Free POWERFUL energy without the use of ANY fuel.
lol k
Energy cannot be created, nor destroyed, only transformed/changed. Free energy is perpetual motion, which is impossible. What we need is hyper efficiency through the clever use of magnets and gears, capacitors, transformers and battery banks, and much more crap I can't think of.... kind of like a hybrid charging itself, but considerably more efficient.
Just lost half of my brain
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granted it got to 150mph and well done!!! but my god how slow was its acceleration you could have gotten of and pushed it for the first quater mile faster lol
Ok lets see. Its 50cc and you have a goal of max top end. What the hell are you worried about acceleration for. You cant have both. Everything is a tradeoff. Most of the fastest cars must be pushed up to 100 mph or so by a pit truck because they are geared too high to even move without smoking a clutch. This bike actually took off fairly strong at low speed. Not to mention you are on salt. It doesnt give traction for wheelie launches.