Electronics don't affect right to repair, but rather how those electronics are utilized. They can be implemented in a way that limits the work you can do, like apple not letting you change the touch scanner or other parts, or they can be helpful, like OBD2. Sadly most companies are requiring their software to figure out what went wrong, or to change parts.
Great comment. The kubota dealer in my area is expensive for repair/service. They have a much quicker turnaround than doing it myself and do better quality work than I can do panicked in the field.
It all goes back to the emissions compliance they have to ensure the equipment will meet the standards the proprietary software is how it’s accomplished.
My experience with rubberized buttons is they deteriorate and become sticky. I have been conditioned to avoid “soft touch” plastics. When I was a mechanic we had to replace gooey switches in Ferrais. They weren’t cheap.
The code and code meaning function is very nice, that sounds like a very helpful feature for on site diagnosis without having to call in a service technician.
Have you any experience with u48-5? It has 31 gpm hydro and my 1 year old kx040 has 24 gpm. Curious if this would cut down on the hydraulic bogging when using tracks and boom. Also like the new cab. the u48 seems to, on paper, out perform the kx040 in reach(not dig depth) and lifting capacity. Any thoughts on upgrading from 040 to u48?
U48, or the KX057 are a big upgrade over the 40. That class has a more sophisticated hydraulic system. I'd suspect it would help to travel flow issue you're finding.
Nice review/overview. Don’t underestimate the value of old fashioned mirrors on a hoe. I use my mirrors on my hitachi every day. I can’t tell you the last time my camera was of any real usefulness due to glare, dirty screen, scratched screen from people wiping dust off of it with their hands…mirrors always work and are far more detailed.
@@MessicksEquip awesome!! With their menu screen background I feel like a bucket with the circles around it is a great indication of possible ad on electronics and sensors for any -5 machine. Very sweet
I’ve heard John Deere has (had?) lawsuits against them over right to repair. Don’t know about other tractor manufacturers but cars like bmw or audi and others require the dealer to do oil changes and other routine maintenance or warranty is void. Some you cannot even check the engine oil. More of that crap is coming soon!
@@lcee6592 Please google “can I do my own oil change without voiding the warranty?” The answer is YES. Always. That’s the law. And yes, you can (and should) check the engine oil on every engine.
Man..out of 4 dealers in my “area” none have got any -5 excavator in. On waiting list for a u48 but just want to see new cab. No customer ordered units have came in just to look at. Where are they?? And should I even buy a “pandemic” built unit?
Some of the right to repair stuff is more about the fact that if you change a part(could be a sensor or any other part that talks to the computer injectors etc) then you still have to call a dealer because the piece of equipment etc. Won't run with the new part because of a software lockout that the end user can't override without the manufacturer software.... That one is stupid expensive if they will sell it to you or two they outright won't sell you the software to fix your machine.
Go to the Kubota website and do a "build" for the model that interests you. You'll be able to see the MSRP on the base unit and any attachments or warranties you might want.
Right to repair is more than just showing the fault codes. Being able to display fault codes are a nice step in the right direction. Some machines won't even do that. There just have a dummy light saying that there's a problem. However seeing the datastream or the live voltage of a sensor is even better. A fault code that reads "sensor such and such out of range" only points in a general direction. The circuit can be high, low, open, or shorted. I can replace the sensor and still have the problem because the wire leading to it was shorted out. Fault codes are usually just symptoms. All together with other information you can make a diagnosis. I just want to have access to the computers and software like I can with my old pickup. I can plug in and see exactly the throttle position sensor is doing I can see what solenoids are triggered in the transmission. I want to be able to plug into my tractor and see why my tractor won't go into Regen like a dealer can. I just want to be able to fix anything on a piece of equipment by myself like my dad and grandpa before me. I hate having my hands tied. I hate having to tell my boss that I don't have the access to the tools that I need. I hate the anxiety of not knowing if the dealer can fit us in. Because cutthroat industry of golf course maintenance (and yes it is cutthroat) if the equipment isn't running and the job isn't getting done people lose their jobs... That's what right to repair is all about.
That stuff's all available for most companies. The biggest stumbling block is always going to be its cost. It makes no sense to own it for a periodic repair.
@@MessicksEquip Sadly my experience has been to the much to contrary except for Kubota and yanmar engines. They are very helpful. Toro and John Deere especially tell me to kick rocks when I ask for access to diagnosis equipment. I'm getting rid of my last John Deere wide area mower this (thank God...) But I am stuck with Toro because of the specialty equipment aspect. For me it is well worth the cost with both my remoteness and the number of machines that I run.
@@MessicksEquip We need standardization like in automotive. Standard OBD plug and data format. Thé “my old pickup” is untrue, the new cars are better than the old cars, as OBD became a standard in 1996.
We'd be onboard with that. Would save us 10's of thousands a years in costs for every silly little electronic tool and cable we are mandated to buy.@@lumberjackdreamer6267
What is it with you americans using those thumbs? Haven't seen an american youtuber use a tiltrotator, and back here you basically cant find an excavator without one. Howcome you using that crap instead of tiltrotators?
That is funny. tilt-rotors are very regional and they have hardly caught on here. Two reasons I can think of, first they kill the digging power of your machine. They are also extremely expensive. Definitely cool what you can do with one.
It seems more common, to me at least, to see a tilt bucket only and those are used for grading since it's not large enough capacity to effectively dig with. Tilt rotors honestly seen more niche to me than a thumb since you're using a bucket that is less effective than a digging bucket so it's only good for grading and if you're grading you've got an excavator so just drive around to get the angle you need and tilt from there. Idk if you've used a thumb or not but there incredibly useful if you need to do any kind of grabbing at all with your excavator, it's so handy being able to pinch things instead of monkeying around with trying to scoop it against the bucket and dipper.
@@MessicksEquip that's what I see in the construction field also, for minis it's incredibly common and then becomes less common as you get into the large machines like the 15+ ton range. It's one of those things where most of the time you don't need it but when you need it there isn't really much else that works as well.
I occasionally operate a large track loader. The backup camera is a wonderful feature!
Great review, Neil! How did you turn the weather into winter time? 🤣🤣🤣
Electronics don't affect right to repair, but rather how those electronics are utilized. They can be implemented in a way that limits the work you can do, like apple not letting you change the touch scanner or other parts, or they can be helpful, like OBD2. Sadly most companies are requiring their software to figure out what went wrong, or to change parts.
Great comment. The kubota dealer in my area is expensive for repair/service. They have a much quicker turnaround than doing it myself and do better quality work than I can do panicked in the field.
@@oldstudbuck3583 That may be the case for you, but thats not the case for everyone..
It all goes back to the emissions compliance they have to ensure the equipment will meet the standards the proprietary software is how it’s accomplished.
My experience with rubberized buttons is they deteriorate and become sticky. I have been conditioned to avoid “soft touch” plastics. When I was a mechanic we had to replace gooey switches in Ferrais. They weren’t cheap.
The code and code meaning function is very nice, that sounds like a very helpful feature for on site diagnosis without having to call in a service technician.
Love the Steiner in the background 😋
Great video Neil wish I could afford the 57-5 but for now I will settle with my 290D
Well narrated as usual, great review.
Let's see the U48-5!
Have you any experience with u48-5? It has 31 gpm hydro and my 1 year old kx040 has 24 gpm. Curious if this would cut down on the hydraulic bogging when using tracks and boom. Also like the new cab. the u48 seems to, on paper, out perform the kx040 in reach(not dig depth) and lifting capacity. Any thoughts on upgrading from 040 to u48?
U48, or the KX057 are a big upgrade over the 40. That class has a more sophisticated hydraulic system. I'd suspect it would help to travel flow issue you're finding.
Nice review/overview. Don’t underestimate the value of old fashioned mirrors on a hoe. I use my mirrors on my hitachi every day. I can’t tell you the last time my camera was of any real usefulness due to glare, dirty screen, scratched screen from people wiping dust off of it with their hands…mirrors always work and are far more detailed.
Are there any plans for Kubota to ad grade control i.e. digital depth/diggng depth
Suspect we're going to see some things regarding that here in a few months.
@@MessicksEquip awesome!! With their menu screen background I feel like a bucket with the circles around it is a great indication of possible ad on electronics and sensors for any -5 machine. Very sweet
Good question…
I can tell the machine is a movie prop. NO dealer has a full tank of fuel in a machine on the lot!
Are you saying thies are movie props
That's y they were robbed
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@@bennyjames1540 got me on that one . No dealer put a full tank of fuel in any machine
I used to work at a rental/used equipment dealership, we always filled machines up after receiving inspection then re-filled them before they left.
Got a New KX057-5 on order already..
Any guess as to when we might see the KX040-5? I too feel like the 040-4 interior feels "cheap."
Not 2022
Nice
whats the length of the arm on the KX57-5?
What about the blade - 4 way / 6 way? Did I miss something?
nothing new, still there like it always has been
Hey Neil will you be at the farm progress show this year in Decatur?
No, not our neck of the woods.
is the supply shortage still bad?
It shouldn't, but that beep annoys the heck out of me. Thanks, Neil!
I’ve heard John Deere has (had?) lawsuits against them over right to repair. Don’t know about other tractor manufacturers but cars like bmw or audi and others require the dealer to do oil changes and other routine maintenance or warranty is void. Some you cannot even check the engine oil. More of that crap is coming soon!
That’s not true. Please don’t spread misinformation.
@@lumberjackdreamer6267 What exactly, is not true? Be specific.
@@lcee6592
Please google “can I do my own oil change without voiding the warranty?”
The answer is YES. Always. That’s the law.
And yes, you can (and should) check the engine oil on every engine.
No keyless start??
Man..out of 4 dealers in my “area” none have got any -5 excavator in. On waiting list for a u48 but just want to see new cab. No customer ordered units have came in just to look at. Where are they?? And should I even buy a “pandemic” built unit?
Hey Buddy, Keep Up the Great Work! How is the New Location coming along?
little more day by day.
I’ll take one of each.
Mo too!
Some of the right to repair stuff is more about the fact that if you change a part(could be a sensor or any other part that talks to the computer injectors etc) then you still have to call a dealer because the piece of equipment etc. Won't run with the new part because of a software lockout that the end user can't override without the manufacturer software.... That one is stupid expensive if they will sell it to you or two they outright won't sell you the software to fix your machine.
The only parts that require a laptop for replacement are generally emissions related. That's an EPA issue, not a right to repair issue.
Where can i find a 040 excavator
Going to need to wait like everyone else.
Just picked up a kx057-5 50th anniversary edition. No more waiting here.
Good video
Looks allot like a Hyunda 😳🤣😂
Cycling buttons with indicator lights are always worse than a physical switch
What the starting price for the 57
No dealers in us give prices online, doesn't matter what brand
Go to the Kubota website and do a "build" for the model that interests you. You'll be able to see the MSRP on the base unit and any attachments or warranties you might want.
Right to repair is more than just showing the fault codes. Being able to display fault codes are a nice step in the right direction. Some machines won't even do that. There just have a dummy light saying that there's a problem. However seeing the datastream or the live voltage of a sensor is even better. A fault code that reads "sensor such and such out of range" only points in a general direction. The circuit can be high, low, open, or shorted. I can replace the sensor and still have the problem because the wire leading to it was shorted out. Fault codes are usually just symptoms. All together with other information you can make a diagnosis. I just want to have access to the computers and software like I can with my old pickup. I can plug in and see exactly the throttle position sensor is doing I can see what solenoids are triggered in the transmission. I want to be able to plug into my tractor and see why my tractor won't go into Regen like a dealer can. I just want to be able to fix anything on a piece of equipment by myself like my dad and grandpa before me. I hate having my hands tied. I hate having to tell my boss that I don't have the access to the tools that I need. I hate the anxiety of not knowing if the dealer can fit us in. Because cutthroat industry of golf course maintenance (and yes it is cutthroat) if the equipment isn't running and the job isn't getting done people lose their jobs... That's what right to repair is all about.
That stuff's all available for most companies. The biggest stumbling block is always going to be its cost. It makes no sense to own it for a periodic repair.
@@MessicksEquip Sadly my experience has been to the much to contrary except for Kubota and yanmar engines. They are very helpful. Toro and John Deere especially tell me to kick rocks when I ask for access to diagnosis equipment. I'm getting rid of my last John Deere wide area mower this (thank God...) But I am stuck with Toro because of the specialty equipment aspect. For me it is well worth the cost with both my remoteness and the number of machines that I run.
@@MessicksEquip
We need standardization like in automotive. Standard OBD plug and data format.
Thé “my old pickup” is untrue, the new cars are better than the old cars, as OBD became a standard in 1996.
We'd be onboard with that. Would save us 10's of thousands a years in costs for every silly little electronic tool and cable we are mandated to buy.@@lumberjackdreamer6267
Is that slv75 for sale
Sold. Going out as fast as they come in. Happy to give you a place in line.
I love my Kubota u55-4 and mx6000 but the speakers are a joke
You know machines are close to perfect when their owner complains about radio speakers. Lol
Nice !
Pulling out a March video ehhh?? Nice machines
Good eye. Forgot to post this one.
WHY , don't you tell US the Retail Price of each machine ? REMEMBER....truth in Advertising !!!
Because these videos stay up for years, and the prices of the machines change about every 12 months.
I just want one of your smallest ones.
First!!! 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
What is it with you americans using those thumbs? Haven't seen an american youtuber use a tiltrotator, and back here you basically cant find an excavator without one. Howcome you using that crap instead of tiltrotators?
That is funny. tilt-rotors are very regional and they have hardly caught on here. Two reasons I can think of, first they kill the digging power of your machine. They are also extremely expensive. Definitely cool what you can do with one.
It seems more common, to me at least, to see a tilt bucket only and those are used for grading since it's not large enough capacity to effectively dig with. Tilt rotors honestly seen more niche to me than a thumb since you're using a bucket that is less effective than a digging bucket so it's only good for grading and if you're grading you've got an excavator so just drive around to get the angle you need and tilt from there.
Idk if you've used a thumb or not but there incredibly useful if you need to do any kind of grabbing at all with your excavator, it's so handy being able to pinch things instead of monkeying around with trying to scoop it against the bucket and dipper.
@@BlackHawkBallistic in our world, thumbs are sold on about 80% of machines.
@@MessicksEquip that's what I see in the construction field also, for minis it's incredibly common and then becomes less common as you get into the large machines like the 15+ ton range. It's one of those things where most of the time you don't need it but when you need it there isn't really much else that works as well.
America is still full of trees and rocks