Looks like a great update, but can someone at Adobe PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add a video de-noise feature built into the software instead of users having to buy a 3rd party plug in ?
I have been recommending this. Finally someone else mentioning a very important post production feature that has been missing that has continuously gone unnoticed. Thank you for this comment, and nice job getting Adobe's attention on this one. I also think they need to add a better log footage color wheels, like Davinci Resolve. Having a AI and Temporal Denoise effect GPU accelerated and native would be a game changer, especially if it ties into apple Max silicon chip powering it like it does in Lightroom Classic. Yes Adobe please do this for us editors!
@@AdobeVideo PLEASE add a denoiser and something similar to color wheel! Color Grading and getting good footage is almost not possible without exporting into davinci :(
This is the most important question lol. Fighting since hours because the footage with No display color management just looks better in Premiere but once exported its completely desaturated. But once you turn it on its soo much tweaking and never getting nowhere near the result of what I see when its off? What the heck am I supposed to do. I just want the best result for Sony's S-Gamut3.Cine edited on an M1 Max MacBook Pro.
@@mtups Got close. Actually you want to have Color Management on when editing on a MacBook as MacBooks are better than casual normal displays and have a bigger color space. You got to understand that you just cant get the MacBook image on other screens thats why you want to enable Color Management. This way its more desaturated but thats what 95% of people will watch your video on. Then just apply the Premiere inbuilt conversion to your Slog footage and start color grading. No Gamma Shift LUT after export.
I tried it it seems pretty nice, compared to the standard SDR Tone Mapped option, smoother gradients, especially noticeable when applying Lumetri Color adjustments.
@@MCCraftAdventure i was asking this just a few days ago on an adobe video lol, because on d.r. the colors were just smooth you know what i mean, thanks for the opinion
@@S9universe I’ve been playing around with it a bit more and I really like it compared to the SDR default. I’ve been using S-Log footage formats for the last couple years and I could never get satisfying skin tones. I was always settling for what I knew could be achieved with Davinci, but #1 I’ve become very comfortable with PrPros layer based system and learning Davinc resolve will take some time. This looks like a step closer to closing the massive gap between the two softwares. Crossing my fingers for native ai video de-noise effect.
@@MCCraftAdventure it's getting there i tried on an older project just switched to wide gamut and instant project changes. I could have spend way less time on tweaking with those more subtle tones... I feel like i wasted years lol
@@S9universe lol no kidding I went back to a previous edit I did for a client where I shot S-Log 3cine. Most the clips didn’t need the adjustment layers I did or to the extent I spent hours adjusting. 😅
What I would love to see is 1) HSV mode for better saturation where I can disable Hue and Value channels so only saturation is adjusted. 2) Right now in curves you can hold shift and drag a point up and down with out it moving right and left, I would love see the same function for dragging horizontally without affecting the vertical axis. Can be frustrating often when points shift vertically by accident.
I use Black Magic cameras, specifically, the pocket 4K and 6K G2. I don't see BM cameras listed according to what I see in this video. Is there any color management setting that targets those cameras? I like Premiere Pro, but I never appreciated how long it's taken Adobe to catch up to a more detailed color management system.
Hi there, Sorry for the poor experience. Could you let us know what issue you're experiencing with FX6 source files? We'd like to look into this issue. You can reach out to us on X (adobe.ly/3NMSiHG) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/3NFTooT). ^IY ^IY
This is great! But how do I turn it off in After Effects? I brought a log clip in to do VFX work and it added the Rec709 conversion by itself. I can’t turn it off. It doesn’t match what I see in Premiere
Hi there, Hi there, We'll have to take a better look at your project and Color settings. Please DM us on X (adobe.ly/3BOxI78) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/4e0qt9E). We'll be happy to look into this for you. ^IY
Hi! I'm sorry to hear the tutorial didn't help. Please DM us on X (adobe.ly/4fuYjVz) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/48vxIW0). After understanding your color workflow, we can give suggestions on how to work with your log footage. ^IY
Hey there! Let's see how we can help. Are you on the beta version of Premiere Pro? This video shows the workflow for the beta. Here's how to join. adobe.ly/4fuAo80 ^CS
Hi there! Sorry to hear that. Could you share more info on what's happening? Can provide screenshot that exhibits the issue? You can reach out to us on @AdobeCare (X). Thanks. ^KR
This isn't actually an Adobe issue - it's an Apple issue - due to Apple using a non-standard gamma of 1.96 on their displays. Premiere Pro by default uses a gamma of 2.4. There is actually a setting in Premiere to adjust the viewers to match how the export will appear in Quicktime (and applications that use the Quicktime engine, such as Safari, etc) - In the Lumetri Color panel, open up Settings, and twirl down the Project dropdown. Change Viewer Gamma from 2.4 (Broadcast) to 1.96 (Quicktime). This will help to ensure your Premiere Viewers more closely match your exports when viewed in Quicktime. The same given export will look differently in Quicktime vs on a Windows machine vs a TV, but that's always been the case, and prob your best hope when grading is just to try and 'split the difference' if your files will likely be viewed on different devices.
I need some help, I've been playing with the new wide Gamut features in color management in Premiere Pro Beta. Everything looks great, I'm using Slog3 footage, I've set the color management to Wide Gamut (No Tone Mapping) and output 'Max RGB' seems to be the nicest. Previously when exporting (I have a 2020 M1 MacBook Pro) I've used a compensation LUT to fix the desaturation that occurs from what the screen shows and the final product. In this case, if I export the footage in the new Wide Gamut Colour space, I still get the washed out footage. So I apply the compensation LUT in effects, on the preview it looks great. But the Media Encoder preview looks very strange, everything's gone bright and odd. I want to use this new feature instead of colouring in the standard rec709 color space but I can't find a way to export this correctly. Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Just to add I color correct in wide gamut, export in rec709. Footage looks washed out. I apply the compensation LUT, footage looks too shiny and overexposed.
Hi there! If you need any advice on that, come on down to the Forum & ask our experts about it. Let’s have a conversation here: [adobe.ly/4iGAY5A] ^Rohan
Very confused - why does my ProRes render from AE color shift in Premiere with "Display Color Management" turned on? Turning these things on by default is not great for motion designers working with graphics, brand palettes, etc. I want AE and Premiere to look the same. Do I need to change my working space in AE for this to work?
Hi there, I'm sorry to hear about this. We'd like to know more about this issue color management issue. Please DM us on X (adobe.ly/3zeNfwp) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/4dab1Y5). We'll be happy to look into this for you. ^IY
Adobe PLEASE let us add individually curves and color wheels etc instead of having to drop the whole Lumetri color effect to adjust other layers ke masking colors.
With the new color management in Adobe Premiere Beta, can i: (1) start editing in DaVinci and export in Wide Gamut, (2) then open the video in Adobe Premiere in Wide Gamut for better control, (3) and finally export in Rec709?
Trying to work with a Nikon Raw N-Log video but Premiere beta says File import Failure, File format not supported. In this video it says it can work with all camera raw files. Is there something I am doing wrong to import my video?
Now Adobe Move to Color Managment and Color Adjustment Plugins.... Adobe has not done any work on color in the last few years. Adobe still has a lot of work to do in color. For example, 3D Color- /Adjustment/Correction Plugin is also a very important tool which should be included in Adobe Premiere Pro and Photoshop.
Looks like a great update, but can someone at Adobe PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add a video de-noise feature built into the software instead of users having to buy a 3rd party plug in ?
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Thank you for the suggestion @WORTHITORNOT! We love hearing your ideas.
@Adobe thank you sir for the new features in premiere pro, after effects, Photoshop,
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I have been recommending this. Finally someone else mentioning a very important post production feature that has been missing that has continuously gone unnoticed. Thank you for this comment, and nice job getting Adobe's attention on this one. I also think they need to add a better log footage color wheels, like Davinci Resolve. Having a AI and Temporal Denoise effect GPU accelerated and native would be a game changer, especially if it ties into apple Max silicon chip powering it like it does in Lightroom Classic. Yes Adobe please do this for us editors!
@@AdobeVideo PLEASE add a denoiser and something similar to color wheel! Color Grading and getting good footage is almost not possible without exporting into davinci :(
I appreciate this video - but just I would like to request a basic series of videos. Hello, Do step 1, step 2, step 3. Thanks
This was really necessary since Premiere Pro/After Effects have issues with colors when exporting...
This is such an awesome feature, I always taught there was room for improvement when coloring log/raw footage
video starts at 2:00 minutes
Been waiting for Premiere to have a color managed workflow for a long time
Has this potentially fixed the color inaccuracy issues when exporting from a mac?
This is the most important question lol. Fighting since hours because the footage with No display color management just looks better in Premiere but once exported its completely desaturated. But once you turn it on its soo much tweaking and never getting nowhere near the result of what I see when its off? What the heck am I supposed to do. I just want the best result for Sony's S-Gamut3.Cine edited on an M1 Max MacBook Pro.
@@armaganvideos did you have any luck resolving this? Did the wide Gamut settings work?
@@mtups Got close. Actually you want to have Color Management on when editing on a MacBook as MacBooks are better than casual normal displays and have a bigger color space. You got to understand that you just cant get the MacBook image on other screens thats why you want to enable Color Management. This way its more desaturated but thats what 95% of people will watch your video on.
Then just apply the Premiere inbuilt conversion to your Slog footage and start color grading. No Gamma Shift LUT after export.
imma try the wide gammut thingy 👀👀🔥🔥🔥
I tried it it seems pretty nice, compared to the standard SDR Tone Mapped option, smoother gradients, especially noticeable when applying Lumetri Color adjustments.
@@MCCraftAdventure i was asking this just a few days ago on an adobe video lol, because on d.r. the colors were just smooth you know what i mean, thanks for the opinion
@@S9universe I’ve been playing around with it a bit more and I really like it compared to the SDR default. I’ve been using S-Log footage formats for the last couple years and I could never get satisfying skin tones. I was always settling for what I knew could be achieved with Davinci, but #1 I’ve become very comfortable with PrPros layer based system and learning Davinc resolve will take some time. This looks like a step closer to closing the massive gap between the two softwares. Crossing my fingers for native ai video de-noise effect.
@@MCCraftAdventure it's getting there i tried on an older project just switched to wide gamut and instant project changes. I could have spend way less time on tweaking with those more subtle tones... I feel like i wasted years lol
@@S9universe lol no kidding I went back to a previous edit I did for a client where I shot S-Log 3cine. Most the clips didn’t need the adjustment layers I did or to the extent I spent hours adjusting. 😅
What I would love to see is
1) HSV mode for better saturation where I can disable Hue and Value channels so only saturation is adjusted.
2) Right now in curves you can hold shift and drag a point up and down with out it moving right and left, I would love see the same function for dragging horizontally without affecting the vertical axis. Can be frustrating often when points shift vertically by accident.
I use Black Magic cameras, specifically, the pocket 4K and 6K G2. I don't see BM cameras listed according to what I see in this video. Is there any color management setting that targets those cameras? I like Premiere Pro, but I never appreciated how long it's taken Adobe to catch up to a more detailed color management system.
Amazing!🎉
@EmanIgnite Love to hear it 😎
There’a a serious glitch with Sony FX6 footage. I missed out on creating great work I spent hours trying to fix this but it is what it is. It’s Adobe
Hi there,
Sorry for the poor experience. Could you let us know what issue you're experiencing with FX6 source files? We'd like to look into this issue. You can reach out to us on X (adobe.ly/3NMSiHG) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/3NFTooT).
^IY
^IY
That's true, Premiere is messing with MXF files, making some footage randomly pixelated :/ Fix this ASAP, please. It's a major video format.
This is great! But how do I turn it off in After Effects? I brought a log clip in to do VFX work and it added the Rec709 conversion by itself. I can’t turn it off. It doesn’t match what I see in Premiere
Hi there,
Hi there,
We'll have to take a better look at your project and Color settings. Please DM us on X (adobe.ly/3BOxI78) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/4e0qt9E). We'll be happy to look into this for you.
^IY
Could you make a better tutorial? My LOG footage looks unchanged (as it was before) when dropped on the new sequence. I'm using latest beta.
Hi!
I'm sorry to hear the tutorial didn't help. Please DM us on X (adobe.ly/4fuYjVz) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/48vxIW0). After understanding your color workflow, we can give suggestions on how to work with your log footage.
^IY
when will it be out of beta?
the wide gamut preset isn't showing up for me
Hey there! Let's see how we can help. Are you on the beta version of Premiere Pro? This video shows the workflow for the beta. Here's how to join. adobe.ly/4fuAo80
^CS
Can you please fix the color/contrast shift during export on Macs, please?
Hi there! Sorry to hear that. Could you share more info on what's happening? Can provide screenshot that exhibits the issue? You can reach out to us on @AdobeCare (X). Thanks. ^KR
This isn't actually an Adobe issue - it's an Apple issue - due to Apple using a non-standard gamma of 1.96 on their displays. Premiere Pro by default uses a gamma of 2.4. There is actually a setting in Premiere to adjust the viewers to match how the export will appear in Quicktime (and applications that use the Quicktime engine, such as Safari, etc) - In the Lumetri Color panel, open up Settings, and twirl down the Project dropdown. Change Viewer Gamma from 2.4 (Broadcast) to 1.96 (Quicktime). This will help to ensure your Premiere Viewers more closely match your exports when viewed in Quicktime. The same given export will look differently in Quicktime vs on a Windows machine vs a TV, but that's always been the case, and prob your best hope when grading is just to try and 'split the difference' if your files will likely be viewed on different devices.
how about removing the new export tab and give us the old export dialogue box
Thanks for writing in. You can post about it on the Premiere Pro community to let our product team know about that: adobe.ly/47wwJV8
^KR
Who is on the zoom button in this video? Why?
I need some help, I've been playing with the new wide Gamut features in color management in Premiere Pro Beta. Everything looks great, I'm using Slog3 footage, I've set the color management to Wide Gamut (No Tone Mapping) and output 'Max RGB' seems to be the nicest.
Previously when exporting (I have a 2020 M1 MacBook Pro) I've used a compensation LUT to fix the desaturation that occurs from what the screen shows and the final product.
In this case, if I export the footage in the new Wide Gamut Colour space, I still get the washed out footage. So I apply the compensation LUT in effects, on the preview it looks great. But the Media Encoder preview looks very strange, everything's gone bright and odd.
I want to use this new feature instead of colouring in the standard rec709 color space but I can't find a way to export this correctly.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Just to add I color correct in wide gamut, export in rec709. Footage looks washed out. I apply the compensation LUT, footage looks too shiny and overexposed.
Hi there! If you need any advice on that, come on down to the Forum & ask our experts about it. Let’s have a conversation here: [adobe.ly/4iGAY5A]
^Rohan
Create a lumitri color page with photoshop layer techniques in premiere pro,
Very confused - why does my ProRes render from AE color shift in Premiere with "Display Color Management" turned on? Turning these things on by default is not great for motion designers working with graphics, brand palettes, etc. I want AE and Premiere to look the same. Do I need to change my working space in AE for this to work?
Hi there,
I'm sorry to hear about this. We'd like to know more about this issue color management issue. Please DM us on X (adobe.ly/3zeNfwp) or create a post in Adobe Community (adobe.ly/4dab1Y5). We'll be happy to look into this for you.
^IY
Where's the N-RAW support????
Hey ! adobe please add Radial Blur effect in Premiere
@Cl0udX We'll pass along this idea. Thanks for the feedback!
Adobe PLEASE let us add individually curves and color wheels etc instead of having to drop the whole Lumetri color effect to adjust other layers ke masking colors.
With the new color management in Adobe Premiere Beta, can i: (1) start editing in DaVinci and export in Wide Gamut, (2) then open the video in Adobe Premiere in Wide Gamut for better control, (3) and finally export in Rec709?
It's because I used to use Adobe Premiere before, and the Dehancer plugin I bought is on it, not on DaVinci
Trying to work with a Nikon Raw N-Log video but Premiere beta says File import Failure, File format not supported. In this video it says it can work with all camera raw files. Is there something I am doing wrong to import my video?
HI Darren. We do support N-Log but do not currently support N-RAW. Sorry for the confusion!
But, it can't use theater level movies,
Premier Pro Color grading Tools is fine.
Premier Color grading Rendering is very poor.
Please make the color wheels more powerful while you're under the hood. They are too weak!
Now Adobe Move to Color Managment and Color Adjustment Plugins.... Adobe has not done any work on color in the last few years. Adobe still has a lot of work to do in color. For example, 3D Color- /Adjustment/Correction Plugin is also a very important tool which should be included in Adobe Premiere Pro and Photoshop.
HOW DO I TOGGLE THIS FEATURE OFF. IT MUST BE BUGGED BECAUSE ITS BEEN DESTROYING MY FOOTAGE AND WORKFLOW SINCE IT CAME OUT. WORST "UPDATE" EVER.
Sorry to hear that. We need some more info to help. Can you send us a DM on Twitter @AdobeCare? adobe.ly/4glrj2D
Happy to help. Thanks! ^KR