I was about to say the exact same thing. I don't have a flying clue about what's going on here. 😂 But it seems like we're going to make some breakthroughs.
Unfortunately, most of humanity is full of idiots and disgusting shts. More like, never stop asking questions, someone who did not spoil their life because of stupidity and are smart.
I lost a 12" action figure model doll head... It's as if it went in2 a portal & vanished! I'm not joking either. It's been missing4 several mo. It's pretty eerie!!
@@LuggageStardate No. If you can see inside a dryer while it is operating, sock pairs are continually being created and destroyed. Don't you see? WE are in some kind of cosmic dryer! It all makes SENSE!
That scientist explained all of this in such a way that it was easy to understand. Free and awesome new information; that’s a big win for me. Thank you!
She needs to get a HAIR STYLIST to make you look presentable. Also get rid of those HIDEOUS glasses as they make you look like a geek/nerd and dont make you look sexy. Also wear some decent clothes that are will make you look desirable. Also put on some decent makeup. At the moment you lo0k like Plain Jane.
This should be trending. This is next level research. UA-cam would rather push their faketrending big money partners video that is not actually trending.
Yeah! It's better for the video to be too loud that the audience can reduce the volume. But if the volume is too low, there are few options to make it louder.
Also... Explaining how incredibly precisely this same experiment does agree with the Standard Model when using electrons, helps to explain why the (extremely small, but statistically significant) disagreement with muons is so interesting. The standard model is still, almost certainly, correct, but it may well be missing some additional components, which is what this excitement is all about.
@@crabcrab2024 Accuracy and precision are different things of course... But yes, the electron's anomalous magnetic moment remains the most precisely measured/verified prediction/result humans have ever conducted. It has also been replicated several times, by different teams, with greater than 5 sigma significance. It really does sound like they're onto something with these muon measurements, but it'll take more experiments to really hone in on exactly what's happening as compared to electrons.
@@shammyh Thank you for the information. It is really interesting. This could indicate there is some other difference between generations except particle's masses.
There is no "may be missing component", we absolutely ARE missing some number of pieces. We haven't even figured out gravity yet and how to plug it into the standard model yet.
This is GREAT news. It further solidifies that we have more to learn and if it means that we have to change our understanding of science to move forward, then we will finally reach the next step in our development as a species. This was needed for a long while and I'm happy to be alive to witness it.
Well, scientists haven't even figured out that the base quantum frequency varies among different alternate realities and that time is a form of waves, so yeah, barely scratched the surface.
I’ve watched several videos on this. It’s fascinating. They used the same magnet from the older experiment. The theoretical calculation uses some values from data, from experiments. Also a competing theoretical calculation came up with a different result that is closer to the experiment. This result isn’t 5 sigma yet, which is what they benchmark discoveries at. As more experiments are done it may hit 5 sigma. Pretty exciting because either the theory is missing a particle or force or both or they are misunderstanding some of the data they are basing the calculations off or the experiment is a outlier (less likely from my limited understanding).
They don't "spin like a top". Nobody knows what quantum spin is exactly. We know its a property particles have and it comes in units of angular momentum, but as far as we can tell there is nothing physically "spinning" in any manner that makes sense to us macroscopic beings. However, the spin-that-isn't-spinning _does_ wobble like a top-that-really-is-spinning, a phenomena called "precession" in fancy physics speak.
It’s two different things. The animation in the video is confusing because it’s not exactly what’s happening. Muons themselves don’t spin on their own axis, but when they’re exposed to an electromagnetic field they experience a motion called larmor precession which happens to behave a lot like a spinning top.
@@aaronroitman5354 Yes I know. Thats what I said. The property of spin. It shows itself in the presence of an em field. Saying they "spin like a top", while easy to understand as it's said, isnt accurate
@@alexr.j2518 School physics mostly revolves around Classical version of motion, mechanics, thermo, acoustics, electricity, magnetism, optics and materials. Quantum, Relativistic, Statistical and Particle physics is studied in Universities.
What is off by more than 3 standard deviations is NOT the difference between the theory and the experiment -- it is the measure of the certainty that the result is not a fluke: the higher the number of standard deviations, the less likely that the difference is not a mere statistical fluctuation. And there are other calculations (based on another approach) more in line with the measured value, so the story is not over yet
Spin, magnetic field, and is negatively charged? With the magnetic field produced by a electric magnet making it wobble. So, in other words the magnetic fields are interacting with each other to create the g moment? Or is the electro magnetic field interacting with something else like the spin of the muon? OR is the electro magnetic field interacting with the negative polarity of the particle? OR is the electro magnetic field interacting with a new force we have yet to discovered? If so why, and how does it interact by wobbling?
Not just the physics, I don’t understand how they engineered such machine. Is there any video explaining the engineering part of these particle accelerators? How on earth does one detects something so tiny and be able to know how it vibrates? People say I’m always stress about school, no, I’m stress for not knowing 1% of how this machine works
CERN also recently released a paper from the LHCb data on a potential violation of lepton flavour universality. This indicates the Muon and Electron are more different than the Standard Model predicts. Maybe these are related.
Dragons! It's dragons that are messing with the muons. I've heard that this could be an error in the method used to calculate the theoretically predicted value of the muon's magnetic moment. It seems odd to me that there's an effect on the muon's magnetic moment, but there doesn't seem to be a measurable effect on the electron's. Though, perhaps there's an explanation lurking out there for why there appear to be 3 and only 3 members of each family of each fundamental fermion.
How to calculate the muon g minus 2 factor using only the electron and proton. Let Me=electron mass= 9.109383607*10^-31 kg, Let emev= electron energy=.5109989461, Let prmev= proton energy= 938.2720831, then it can be shown: (prmev/emev)-(37/477/emev)-12 above divided by (10^33)*Me = 2.0023318362, which is exact for theoretical calculation of g minus 2.
Muons do not spin like tops. They have spin, which is best modelled as circular polarisation arising from the phase of the real and imaginary components of the wave function. The top analogy is ultimately more confusing than helpful.
Completely agreed. Other, more science-minded channels/educators will always point that out. "spin" isn't really anything like a top, there's no physical "spinning" movement going on. Sort of like asking "which one is blue?" when talking about the color-force... 😋
I've seen many videos about the subject and I have to say this might be the best one, that is able to explain it in a brief and accessible way, well done Seeker!
A rival group (BMW), the same day specifically published a paper stating the new results were not inconsistent with Theory - this probably should have mentioned. The far bigger question is why do 2 entirely different groups, with a lot of PhDs on both sides, who have signed their names to these papers, completely disagree with what the Standard Model is predicting. Very rare that something like this happens.
"spin like a top" is a pretty bad analogy... They do not actually "spin" they simply have a property, which is confusingly called, "spin". But really, a name which doesn't imply physical movement would be a better name.
Fermilab's experiment is not confirmed, we are just more confident than we were with the Brookhaven experiment but it needs to be even more confident to be considered a discovery.
I saw someone talking about this, what does it take for this to get 5? Also isn't spin a property not a description? I think spin means something besides spin in quantum world. Science asylum has a video on this. Too lazy too find it
Not only is it not confirmed, a rival group (BMW), the same day specifically published a paper stating the new results were not inconsistent with Theory - this probably should have mentioned. The far bigger question is why do 2 entirely different groups, with a lot of PhDs on both sides, who have signed their names to these papers, completely disagree with what the Standard Model is predicting. Very rare that something like this happens.
@Guy Smith Ya, I agree but the title, description and delayed release of this video lead me to believe that they ran through the data in more depth and were able to confirm it already.
@@reachtrev69 FermiLab student here (on NOvA) 5 sigma just refers to a level of confidence that what you measured didn’t just happen because if random fluctuations within your measurement setup. Particle physics has a particularly high standard of discovery because the detector and beam setups we use take so much data that there’s a higher chance of getting lucky and randomly seeing something that might look like a new particle that was really just a detector fluke. Think of it like asking a billion people to use a ruler to measure the length of a line you drew. Chances are, at least one person would give a drastically different number than the true value. As for spin, that also irritated me. Spin is an inherent amount of angular momentum that these elementary particles have. They are not literally spinning like a top.
It makes me wonder if they checked the physical temperature in the accelerator and the magnetic ring in relation to the wobble, if there is a correlation then it could bring some interesting factors to light, since temperature can affect things at a quantum level, it would be an interesting experiment, and if successful they could get much better measurements and even control of the wobble.
Another intriguing and educational video. Nicely done, Seeker! But please, please please please, turn up your microphone gain. Your audio levels are sitting at about 50%-60% of other YT videos. (Which is fine until I click on another video without turning my speakers down, and the audio is loud enough to damage spacetime)
I believe that these exist in nature in a couple areas, pending further data analysis I look into. The concept of a magnetic moment is beautiful too me because it is a moment I have already envisioned in other phenomena and as well as believe I have experienced is subjectively. The moment in forces working against each other reach a balanced line of convergence and either become one like gravity, and when the convergence line becomes something different entirely and separates the other two firmaments, like two different colored bodies of water. Second, I believe our conscious decision making attention is some type of complex formation of this. I picture ourselves as the muon type function that can easily be overtaken by the heart neurons and gut, the brain, or can decide through training to always be separate of the two systems thru a moment of self actualization. Spanning from there, love. Humans can love things animate or inanimate. So, having our conscious relate to quantum physics, which is alive in all matter, and be of the magnetic type force, because we can click with inanimate objects, and be of this muon type or more complex, because it is in the realm of neurology we just do not understand yet. Tell me your thoughts.
Huge shout out to physicists. I love the whole "studying the building blocks of the universe and how they work" part but I despise the "and proving it through maths" part.
@@scottymeffz5025 relative to what we don’t know, we don’t have enough knowledge to claim to know anything. The more you know, the more you realize you actually know nothing
See, I don't know if I know what is causing the wobble, but I do think that whatever it is also contributes to the CP-symmetry violations with Muon-neutrinos.
That's trippy... Once I heard from another video (I think a Sean Carroll Higgs presentation) that the muon was mostly a heavier electron, and the tau an even heavier version of _that_, somehow it seemed like the muon experiments might break through the wall of the standard model finally. There are some interesting holes in it for sure...
By now you should have mentioned the BMW calculations in your video as well, Seeker. The results of their calculations are well known by nog and come way closer to the experimental results than the previous calculations. So the debate is still anything but settled and it is still very possible that the standard model can accurately predict experimental results.
As a particle is Accelerated from point through point artificially, the wobble is just the two dimensional expression of the ‘spiralling motion’ a particle experiences under the influence of the environmental relative gravity.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read an article about this experiment and I don't believe the team can claim this as a discovery just yet due to the statistical probability of this being a fluke.
@@shantanunene4389 that was it thank you. So to my understanding, they have only conducted the test once and got one result? Is the test difficult or expensive to do? Just curious why they can't just continue testing to rule out it being a fluke.
Bravo for being willing to accept that we must alwaya challenge the accepted standard models. So many science facts are in fact imperfect theories that go unchallenged as fact. I have a feeling that our misunderstandings go back further than we'd like to admit.
Gravity is not really a force. All objects with mass distort time, causing everything to move towards the slowest time. That looks like a force but in reality it’s variable speed of time that does the forcing.
TLDR: Particles were acting different than expected and they don't know what it means. They expect that it means something big, but then their incorrect expectations got us here.
Dark matter is worse than flat earth..... nerds are so clique, they still mad at being bullied at school. Dark blah blah is trending 20 years too long.
@@richardaitkenhead it's not "Dark blah blah blah". You are dismissing something because of your lack of intelligence. Dark matter and dark energy are real. The naming sucks but the phenomena are as real as you and me and we have no idea about why we observe what we observe.
@@yourhuckleberry6757 "Depicted as a short, pudgy, Italian plumber who resides in the Mushroom Kingdom, his adventures generally center on rescuing Princess Peach from the Koopa villain Bowser. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario
But to know that... You'd have to actually understand why this experiment is so interesting, which clearly the writers of this seeker episode did not. Unfortunately.
I also developed a Advanced Principle, based on my Theorized, Same=Same and Different does not equal Same, Theory! In my Theory, I go over that everything that we know in our Universe has a Positive and Negative Charge. In this, I say, that Nuons make my Point more Clear. They are Magnetic! Which means, that we know now that, that is actually Possible, but, we still have not solved how all these Particles, are transposed in such a way to go Smaller or Larger. In my Theory, everything has a Different Weight, kind-of like a Scale, 1=1 and 2=2, so, each Particle, Atom, or Matter Piece, has a Different Variable Weight! Magnetic Structures and all, meaning if a Atom or Particle, Spins on a Positive and Negative Axis, then, the Weaker Force will Counteract the Stronger, Stronger Pulling More! Stay safe, Seeker! Great Development of Science and Particle Research!
sooner or later they will find out the only difference between the four forces is a matter of perspective on different scales. when you break it down to the smallest interactions possible they will be positive and negative attractions in a lattice of points on equidistant polyhedrons. all other forces are explained by the compound interactions of each point and the charges interacting with them. the larger the particle the more compound the interactions and the more complex the plot graph, but always the same force just viewed on different scales of magnitude.
Idk what any of this stuff means but I'm thrilled that there are people who do.
The point here is they don't know either.
....like the saying in my language Tamil......'what we know only amounts a single grain of sand'....😁
I love enthusiasm too :D
I was about to say the exact same thing. I don't have a flying clue about what's going on here. 😂 But it seems like we're going to make some breakthroughs.
@@stevenw4549 So you're saying these scientist don't know what any of this stuff means? What are they just pretending to know so they can sound smart?
Muons be vibing on a whole other level dude
Muons go brrrr
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yEA
Yes
Very exciting. Never stop asking questions, humanity.
yes, future is bright for us
I never and you shouldn't also. #theanalysers
Why not?
Unfortunately, most of humanity is full of idiots and disgusting shts. More like, never stop asking questions, someone who did not spoil their life because of stupidity and are smart.
@@maxwellsequation4887 ??
This might explain why socks keep disappearing in my dryer.
No socks don't just disappear from a dryer. They remain smelly under your bed till you wonder what funk is growing down there.
Haha..douglas Adams reference
I lost a 12" action figure model doll head... It's as if it went in2 a portal & vanished! I'm not joking either. It's been missing4 several mo. It's pretty eerie!!
I lost my virginity. It was there one day then gone the next
@@LuggageStardate No. If you can see inside a dryer while it is operating, sock pairs are continually being created and destroyed. Don't you see? WE are in some kind of cosmic dryer! It all makes SENSE!
That scientist explained all of this in such a way that it was easy to understand. Free and awesome new information; that’s a big win for me. Thank you!
She needs to get a HAIR STYLIST to make you look presentable. Also get rid of those HIDEOUS glasses as they make you look like a geek/nerd and dont make you look sexy. Also wear some decent clothes that are will make you look desirable. Also put on some decent makeup. At the moment you lo0k like Plain Jane.
@@esecallum um... are you ok
yes. i am tellimng herto look presentable@@jeremias-serus
@@esecallum She looks fine. I think you might be delusional.
would you go out with her in THAT state? people would laugh at you.. she needs to spruce up@@jeremias-serus
This should be trending. This is next level research. UA-cam would rather push their faketrending big money partners video that is not actually trending.
This has been in the news for more than 2 weeks now
There have been numerous videos on it.
youtube is an entertainment platform not an educational platform
UA-cam doesn’t produce videos. UA-cam makes the videos available.
In my opinion though, The title is super clickbaity
the spiffing brit: the universe is perfectly balanced with no exploits
Kek :^D
lmao this is so random but I know exactly what you're talking about!
His Tea-Factor knows no bounds! :)
@Joseph Dead the land of coffe is Brazil
Its not the tea, its the tea bag.
I love you seeker, but please boost your audio a bit thanks :D
Yeah! It's better for the video to be too loud that the audience can reduce the volume.
But if the volume is too low, there are few options to make it louder.
Huh, it's plenty loud for me
@@culturecanvas777 exactly!
Also... Explaining how incredibly precisely this same experiment does agree with the Standard Model when using electrons, helps to explain why the (extremely small, but statistically significant) disagreement with muons is so interesting. The standard model is still, almost certainly, correct, but it may well be missing some additional components, which is what this excitement is all about.
We'll never get a grasp on quantum mechanics until we have a better understanding of what exactly dark matter/energy truly is.
Does the accuracy for g factor in the electron experiment surpass the accuracy of the muon g-2?
@@crabcrab2024 Accuracy and precision are different things of course... But yes, the electron's anomalous magnetic moment remains the most precisely measured/verified prediction/result humans have ever conducted. It has also been replicated several times, by different teams, with greater than 5 sigma significance.
It really does sound like they're onto something with these muon measurements, but it'll take more experiments to really hone in on exactly what's happening as compared to electrons.
@@shammyh Thank you for the information. It is really interesting. This could indicate there is some other difference between generations except particle's masses.
There is no "may be missing component", we absolutely ARE missing some number of pieces. We haven't even figured out gravity yet and how to plug it into the standard model yet.
This is GREAT news. It further solidifies that we have more to learn and if it means that we have to change our understanding of science to move forward, then we will finally reach the next step in our development as a species. This was needed for a long while and I'm happy to be alive to witness it.
With all we have learned so far I believe we have only scratched the surface of what there is to discover.
Well, scientists haven't even figured out that the base quantum frequency varies among different alternate realities and that time is a form of waves, so yeah, barely scratched the surface.
@@onidaaitsubasa4177 take your meds
I once got a private tour of Fermi Lab. An amazing place.
Just the thought of how far humanity has come with its knowledge in just the last 200 years is amazing.
Small nitpick, that's a minus sign, and not a dash, so it's properly called "g minus two" to emphasis the difference from two.
Neutral Kaon Decay - Spin Axial Resonance 1:500 yeah some of us are aware of what the real issues are
@@ChiDraconis The real issue is that a lot of money spent on zero results
First I thought there is hole in large Hadron Collider.
Its Hadron
@@samyakjainjss sorry I don't recognise that,it was typing mistake of my mobile phone
My first thought was about that too.
Figuratively speaking, correct.
The LHC is in Europe. This was done at Fermilab in the USA
I’ve watched several videos on this. It’s fascinating. They used the same magnet from the older experiment.
The theoretical calculation uses some values from data, from experiments.
Also a competing theoretical calculation came up with a different result that is closer to the experiment.
This result isn’t 5 sigma yet, which is what they benchmark discoveries at. As more experiments are done it may hit 5 sigma.
Pretty exciting because either the theory is missing a particle or force or both or they are misunderstanding some of the data they are basing the calculations off or the experiment is a outlier (less likely from my limited understanding).
As Doc Lincoln, from Fermilab would say,
"Physics is Everything!".
Outstanding job Seeker!
Cutting Edge Science for the entire planet!!
Kudos!
They don't "spin like a top". Nobody knows what quantum spin is exactly. We know its a property particles have and it comes in units of angular momentum, but as far as we can tell there is nothing physically "spinning" in any manner that makes sense to us macroscopic beings.
However, the spin-that-isn't-spinning _does_ wobble like a top-that-really-is-spinning, a phenomena called "precession" in fancy physics speak.
They don't "spin like a top". They don't spin. They HAVE spin, an intrinsic property that doesn't change.
It’s two different things. The animation in the video is confusing because it’s not exactly what’s happening.
Muons themselves don’t spin on their own axis, but when they’re exposed to an electromagnetic field they experience a motion called larmor precession which happens to behave a lot like a spinning top.
@@aaronroitman5354 Yes I know. Thats what I said. The property of spin. It shows itself in the presence of an em field. Saying they "spin like a top", while easy to understand as it's said, isnt accurate
Could have sworn someone told me we know everything already. We're probably still in the stone age as far as understanding what life is goes.
Outstanding presentation
Okay new lessons for students folks!
Well fuc--
Hopefully for universities only not high school
And we just started learning abouth fundamental particles in physics class lol
@@alexr.j2518 School physics mostly revolves around Classical version of motion, mechanics, thermo, acoustics, electricity, magnetism, optics and materials.
Quantum, Relativistic, Statistical and Particle physics is studied in Universities.
What is off by more than 3 standard deviations is NOT the difference between the theory and the experiment -- it is the measure of the certainty that the result is not a fluke: the higher the number of standard deviations, the less likely that the difference is not a mere statistical fluctuation. And there are other calculations (based on another approach) more in line with the measured value, so the story is not over yet
It is cool that scientists still have their hands full and discovering new stuff about how the universe works.
Spin, magnetic field, and is negatively charged?
With the magnetic field produced by a electric magnet making it wobble.
So, in other words the magnetic fields are interacting with each other to create the g moment?
Or is the electro magnetic field interacting with something else like the spin of the muon?
OR is the electro magnetic field interacting with the negative polarity of the particle?
OR is the electro magnetic field interacting with a new force we have yet to discovered?
If so why, and how does it interact by wobbling?
Great video as always! Seeker ❤️
Not just the physics, I don’t understand how they engineered such machine. Is there any video explaining the engineering part of these particle accelerators? How on earth does one detects something so tiny and be able to know how it vibrates?
People say I’m always stress about school, no, I’m stress for not knowing 1% of how this machine works
CERN also recently released a paper from the LHCb data on a potential violation of lepton flavour universality. This indicates the Muon and Electron are more different than the Standard Model predicts. Maybe these are related.
Do you understand what you are talking about ? I don't think so...Don't worry neither do they, except they get paid to fake it.
I am so happy to be alive in a time where we are making these types of discoveries.
Dragons! It's dragons that are messing with the muons.
I've heard that this could be an error in the method used to calculate the theoretically predicted value of the muon's magnetic moment. It seems odd to me that there's an effect on the muon's magnetic moment, but there doesn't seem to be a measurable effect on the electron's.
Though, perhaps there's an explanation lurking out there for why there appear to be 3 and only 3 members of each family of each fundamental fermion.
The hypothesis is that the electron is not massive enough to draw in these undiscovered particles which would account for the difference.
@@TheInevitableHulk - Which would imply that the new physics involves interactions related to mass or gravity. Is that a reasonable inference?
How to calculate the muon g minus 2 factor using only the electron and proton. Let Me=electron mass= 9.109383607*10^-31 kg, Let emev= electron energy=.5109989461, Let prmev= proton energy= 938.2720831, then it can be shown: (prmev/emev)-(37/477/emev)-12 above divided by (10^33)*Me = 2.0023318362, which is exact for theoretical calculation of g minus 2.
Seeker rocks! Probably my most favourite channel on UA-cam. 😊
Muons do not spin like tops. They have spin, which is best modelled as circular polarisation arising from the phase of the real and imaginary components of the wave function. The top analogy is ultimately more confusing than helpful.
Completely agreed. Other, more science-minded channels/educators will always point that out. "spin" isn't really anything like a top, there's no physical "spinning" movement going on.
Sort of like asking "which one is blue?" when talking about the color-force... 😋
Thank Heavens you said, my blood pressure was rising. The number of academics who use this unfortunate analogy is truly baffling.
Exciting stuff, Maynard! Well explained and presented, thank you!
I've seen many videos about the subject and I have to say this might be the best one, that is able to explain it in a brief and accessible way, well done Seeker!
A rival group (BMW), the same day specifically published a paper stating the new results were not inconsistent with Theory - this probably should have mentioned. The far bigger question is why do 2 entirely different groups, with a lot of PhDs on both sides, who have signed their names to these papers, completely disagree with what the Standard Model is predicting. Very rare that something like this happens.
Brings in the bacon, nobody can catch one side or the other...give them credit, a perfectly safe cushy, well-paid life-time job for a few lucky ones.
i got my mind blown hearing this, even though i didnt understand anything.
Bravo.Verywell said.
was looking forward to your video on this
experiment! yall break down science the best! love your videos!
What's lurking out there is the clickbaiticon. Every year its attraction increases. It is now so strong that it influences even electrons
All this for what?
in lockstep of the ever increasing grants. Busy trying to prove that there is no intelligent designer in the Universe
@@aligator7181 Humans exist, ergo there cannot be an intelligent designer.
@@SeedlingNL that literally makes no sense. I'm pretty sure there are far more "intelligent" entities in the universe than us.
"spin like a top" is a pretty bad analogy... They do not actually "spin" they simply have a property, which is confusingly called, "spin". But really, a name which doesn't imply physical movement would be a better name.
The better the instruments we create, the further down and out we will reach. The universe is infinite in both directions.
Reminds me of the coastline paradox.
Your profile photo reminds me of a DMT trip I never had
@@SahilP2648 I know the one.
@@MrJamesdryable you have taken DMT?
@@SahilP2648 Affirmative.
Fermilab's experiment is not confirmed, we are just more confident than we were with the Brookhaven experiment but it needs to be even more confident to be considered a discovery.
I saw someone talking about this, what does it take for this to get 5? Also isn't spin a property not a description? I think spin means something besides spin in quantum world. Science asylum has a video on this. Too lazy too find it
Not only is it not confirmed, a rival group (BMW), the same day specifically published a paper stating the new results were not inconsistent with Theory - this probably should have mentioned. The far bigger question is why do 2 entirely different groups, with a lot of PhDs on both sides, who have signed their names to these papers, completely disagree with what the Standard Model is predicting. Very rare that something like this happens.
@Guy Smith Ya, I agree but the title, description and delayed release of this video lead me to believe that they ran through the data in more depth and were able to confirm it already.
@@reachtrev69 FermiLab student here (on NOvA)
5 sigma just refers to a level of confidence that what you measured didn’t just happen because if random fluctuations within your measurement setup. Particle physics has a particularly high standard of discovery because the detector and beam setups we use take so much data that there’s a higher chance of getting lucky and randomly seeing something that might look like a new particle that was really just a detector fluke. Think of it like asking a billion people to use a ruler to measure the length of a line you drew. Chances are, at least one person would give a drastically different number than the true value.
As for spin, that also irritated me. Spin is an inherent amount of angular momentum that these elementary particles have. They are not literally spinning like a top.
@@yoyoyomynameisdalton thanks for pointing that out. The way they described it's 'spin' made me wince a little.
It makes me wonder if they checked the physical temperature in the accelerator and the magnetic ring in relation to the wobble, if there is a correlation then it could bring some interesting factors to light, since temperature can affect things at a quantum level, it would be an interesting experiment, and if successful they could get much better measurements and even control of the wobble.
And 20 years later the great scientists will say nutrinos are something we have not understood and that is the holy grail. Keep at it guys.
“Alright boys, time to rewrite centuries worth of information we thought we knew”
_“Yes sir...”_
One step towards the discovery of Pym Particles, wow, I'm really excited.
and always one step from the next grant now that is precision research
There is no such thing as a "particle." That's how lost material science is...
@@tomrhodes1629 huh?
Another intriguing and educational video. Nicely done, Seeker! But please, please please please, turn up your microphone gain. Your audio levels are sitting at about 50%-60% of other YT videos. (Which is fine until I click on another video without turning my speakers down, and the audio is loud enough to damage spacetime)
I believe that these exist in nature in a couple areas, pending further data analysis I look into.
The concept of a magnetic moment is beautiful too me because it is a moment I have already envisioned in other phenomena and as well as believe I have experienced is subjectively.
The moment in forces working against each other reach a balanced line of convergence and either become one like gravity, and when the convergence line becomes something different entirely and separates the other two firmaments, like two different colored bodies of water.
Second, I believe our conscious decision making attention is some type of complex formation of this. I picture ourselves as the muon type function that can easily be overtaken by the heart neurons and gut, the brain, or can decide through training to always be separate of the two systems thru a moment of self actualization.
Spanning from there, love. Humans can love things animate or inanimate. So, having our conscious relate to quantum physics, which is alive in all matter, and be of the magnetic type force, because we can click with inanimate objects, and be of this muon type or more complex, because it is in the realm of neurology we just do not understand yet.
Tell me your thoughts.
We continue to discover what we don't know. Fascinating and awesome!
Impressed by beauty of Presenter!!!
Huge shout out to physicists. I love the whole "studying the building blocks of the universe and how they work" part but I despise the "and proving it through maths" part.
Ayyyy I used to work at BNL!
Interesting! What did you do there previously?
We literally still don’t know anything about how the universe works, and that’s the most exciting part
We literally know a lot. But there is literally a lot more we don't know.
Fixed your literally incorrect sentence.
@@scottymeffz5025 relative to what we don’t know, we don’t have enough knowledge to claim to know anything.
The more you know, the more you realize you actually know nothing
@@johnnydoe2672 ok guy
Sheldon would be so pissed that the experimental physicists proved his theory wrong, lol. J/K Super cool video as always!
Accurately detecting that tricky tricky G factor. One of mans greatest mystery... XD
Standard Model to scientists: What are you doing step bro.
Students: Now I gotta learn more stuff
Muons: they see me Rollin they hatin.......................
lol the "Brookhaven Experiment" is a videogame too. hahaha i was i bit confused at first
The problem is that we think we know everything about everything already. Perfect example of how much could still be out there.
See, I don't know if I know what is causing the wobble, but I do think that whatever it is also contributes to the CP-symmetry violations with Muon-neutrinos.
I can't wait to see what they discover!
It is an "already known" what the news is has to do with accuracy and confirmation of an electro magnetic thing
That's trippy... Once I heard from another video (I think a Sean Carroll Higgs presentation) that the muon was mostly a heavier electron, and the tau an even heavier version of _that_, somehow it seemed like the muon experiments might break through the wall of the standard model finally. There are some interesting holes in it for sure...
By now you should have mentioned the BMW calculations in your video as well, Seeker. The results of their calculations are well known by nog and come way closer to the experimental results than the previous calculations. So the debate is still anything but settled and it is still very possible that the standard model can accurately predict experimental results.
Meanwhile, I still have trouble with the times-tables... 😖
But you obviously know your 148 times table..
Earth, Water, Fire, Air, now a fifth element. Exciting times.
As a particle is Accelerated from point through point artificially, the wobble is just the two dimensional expression of the ‘spiralling motion’ a particle experiences under the influence of the environmental relative gravity.
The Universe: So we did alittle trolling
Yay! More stuff to learn in Physics class!
Just imagine what else has to be "reworked"..
Fermilab does amazing work
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read an article about this experiment and I don't believe the team can claim this as a discovery just yet due to the statistical probability of this being a fluke.
twice in a row?
Yes you need 5 sigma accuracy, currently the team have 4.2 sigma
@@shantanunene4389 that was it thank you. So to my understanding, they have only conducted the test once and got one result? Is the test difficult or expensive to do? Just curious why they can't just continue testing to rule out it being a fluke.
@@justinb9223 Yeah probably the test is expensive
Thought I was just being thick. So excited for what will be found
The missing ingredient is LOVE. It's the creative force of the universe.
This experiment changes the world of particle physics
One word: electromagnetism.
this should be all over the news
Bravo for being willing to accept that we must alwaya challenge the accepted standard models. So many science facts are in fact imperfect theories that go unchallenged as fact. I have a feeling that our misunderstandings go back further than we'd like to admit.
By what force the apple falls? It falls when it's ripe, when it is ready to eat. What else is there for us regarding apples?
I find that frequencies can act like magnetic resonance and it tells you how it will respond.
Gravity is not really a force. All objects with mass distort time, causing everything to move towards the slowest time. That looks like a force but in reality it’s variable speed of time that does the forcing.
It must be a force of some sort. Even you say "...time that does the FORCING". It requires a certain amount of force to overcome this "force".
Nicely explained! THX. Hope we do not have to wait another 20 years to know for sure that we found something new.
Let's hope it brings us to some physics brakethrough!!
Hahaa, it was me all along! I went and poked the muon to mess up the measurements!
TLDR: Particles were acting different than expected and they don't know what it means.
They expect that it means something big, but then their incorrect expectations got us here.
Incorrect expectations are just part of the journey. What's important is the openness to being proven wrong.
@@JoshSci Thoroughly agree.
Oh I know! Just blame it on that magic dark energy as usual. That'll surely explain it.
The devil of physics
Dark matter is worse than flat earth..... nerds are so clique, they still mad at being bullied at school. Dark blah blah is trending 20 years too long.
Oh look I found the kiddie pool
@@ardd.c.8113 You read my mind lol
@@richardaitkenhead it's not "Dark blah blah blah". You are dismissing something because of your lack of intelligence. Dark matter and dark energy are real. The naming sucks but the phenomena are as real as you and me and we have no idea about why we observe what we observe.
Scientists Just Discovered a Major “Hole”
Me: What color?
at least no one is asking if they can have sex with it yet
I find this research fascinating 🙂
2:00 THIS is the actual Italian accent and not the stereotypical "It's me, Mario!" :)
Mario is American.
@@yourhuckleberry6757 "Depicted as a short, pudgy, Italian plumber who resides in the Mushroom Kingdom, his adventures generally center on rescuing Princess Peach from the Koopa villain Bowser. "
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario
Yeah and I'm not proud of this... italy's educational system sucks
Why isn't this trending. It's actually a big deal.
Minor correction to a great video: "g-2" is pronounced "gee minus two"
But to know that... You'd have to actually understand why this experiment is so interesting, which clearly the writers of this seeker episode did not. Unfortunately.
As far as I know standard model doesn't cover gravitational force. 1:03
I also developed a Advanced Principle, based on my Theorized, Same=Same and Different does not equal Same, Theory! In my Theory, I go over that everything that we know in our Universe has a Positive and Negative Charge. In this, I say, that Nuons make my Point more Clear. They are Magnetic! Which means, that we know now that, that is actually Possible, but, we still have not solved how all these Particles, are transposed in such a way to go Smaller or Larger. In my Theory, everything has a Different Weight, kind-of like a Scale, 1=1 and 2=2, so, each Particle, Atom, or Matter Piece, has a Different Variable Weight! Magnetic Structures and all, meaning if a Atom or Particle, Spins on a Positive and Negative Axis, then, the Weaker Force will Counteract the Stronger, Stronger Pulling More! Stay safe, Seeker! Great Development of Science and Particle Research!
10 billion gave us 6 new words that decay quickly. Another trillion should give us some long lasting words.
sooner or later they will find out the only difference between the four forces is a matter of perspective on different scales.
when you break it down to the smallest interactions possible they will be positive and negative attractions in a lattice of points on equidistant polyhedrons. all other forces are explained by the compound interactions of each point and the charges interacting with them. the larger the particle the more compound the interactions and the more complex the plot graph, but always the same force just viewed on different scales of magnitude.
I have no education on this stuff at all. Very interesting! Will it take me years to learn what a muon really is?
Most terms such as this you get used to just having a name for it;
Muons are very energetic displays in the upper atmosphere
@@ChiDraconis i tried to learn how quantum computers work out of the blue last year it took quite some time haha. I guess just a few weeks
There is no major "hole". It's just more insight into one small thing that is unexplained.
Yes there is
As long as there is an observer we will keep discovering things, practically infinitely.
Pi mesons would give larger deviation in "g" due to their larger mass resulting in larger centrifugal force acting on them during precession.
g MINUS two.
What does this potentially mean for innovation? For example, what kind of inventions could come from this discovery?
It could lead to a new equation linking the standard model with general relativity.