Omg I didn't even notice this is like a high pitch shortbread also we have gotten lots of negative stuff on this channel can we get like a part 2 for that really REALLY wholesome video
there's a lot of entitlement and toxicity in this game but I'd like to share a wholesome DBD moment I had a couple days ago: it was my birthday so I changed my name to "Birthday Girl". One of the killers that night (Deathslinger) made us stand in the central room of RPD in front of the big statue and then he clicked "Happy Birthday" for me with his gun. He was a streamer so I went to his stream afterwards and he was such a nice guy and I'm glad that people like him exist and play DBD.
Aww that’s so sweet! Although it would’ve been nice to do the celebration in the West Office room with the “Welcome Leon” sign since they threw a party for him :)
That is the cutest thing I have heard! That is why I continue to play. For every 1 terrible person I come in contact with I meet 5 really great ones. I've met some of my friends through DBD. I try to remember the wonderful parts and not the terrible things.
I once had a friend that I played with awhile back. The Ghost Face played so good and got the 4k on us. He then proceeds to tell me that the killer should be banned for playing the way he did. Dude never camped, never tunneled and played "fair". I stopped playing with him after that because playing with someone like that is not what I wanted in a teammate. This guy was cringey asf. Also, I'd like to point out that adrenaline is not a crutch perk, it's a clutch perk. That's just my opinion tho.
Ah yes, being good at the game=reportable. I would never play with someone like that either. That's even worse than people who think being chased=being tunneled.
to be fair: Any perk can be a 'crutch' perk, it really depends on how you USE them. If you're entirely relying on perks, then they're all crutches. Because at the end of the day, how you control your survivor and the tiles in the match is what you should focus on, not how well your perks help you survive. Perks are supposed to be 'addons' in a way, that boost your skill, not GIVE you skill. It's a mistake i see a lot of survivors rely on, rather than focus on getting better at the looping, making quick decisions, etc. They run all the perks that give them second chances when they mess up, and only run those because of that. But this guy was clearly just crying over literally anything he could see, not giving constructive feedback. Good on you for not playing with your 'friend' anymore, they seemed quite frustrating.
Fair play to you for being able to recognise that and take a step away from playing with that person though, sometimes people can get a bit blind to it when it's a friend
I've always had a mindset that you should play both sides so that you're less likely to be entitled... unfortunately this guy is proof that you can be incredibly entitled when you play both sides. The fact this guy acts like this at age 33, and has a following too, makes me really sad.
I have the same mindset, I've always said that playing the other side helps you be more empathetic to what your opposition has to go through... But apparently not 😂😂
I agree I play both sides but my swf doesn’t and there are a lot of times that they get mad at the killer and I explain why they did it in a pretty simple look at the hooks to gens kind of way and they go “oh yeah fair enough”
@@CloseshaveGaming there are times when I am playing and I am getting mad, but it's usually a good mad as I am being outplayed. No one wants to be outplayed, but yet you do I appreciate and respect when they are running loops around me, even if it riles me up, it's a positive getting aggy.
@@CloseshaveGaming playing against them at times makes my blood boil (Autism and ADHD means we want to be the best at everything we do) but it's how we get better at it
I love how happy you get when you say "but... Let's play devil's advocate" But yeah, this is the double standards we love in dbd :) But at least, despite acting like a child, this guy keeps it 'decent' and refrains from using slurs and serious insults.
Doesn’t make a difference whether he’s a blazing racist or just a hater of lgbtq community, he’s actually worse. Pissing and moaning from map launch is cringe.
@@cdajah6920 really now? You genuinly think crying over a map is WORSE than calling people racist and sexist slurs and seeing them as lesser humans? Really now? Are you REEAALLY sure about that?
@@cdajah6920 Bruh take this L, how is whining about a map make you worse of a person than treating someone as less than human because they're different?
Mr. Duke, I have no idea how you can continue to listen to these kind of people. I lose brain cells hearing what some of these people say. Props to you for putting yourself through that for us. ✌️
Ah, hell yes, more entitled streamers. My Sunday is saved. I played against a friendly ttv! He also "tunneled" me out of the game, but after going to his stream to say gg he said he was sorry, it was rather unfortunate that he got me. But he hoped that I had otherwise good games. Very nice guy, you like to see it. (I'm not mad about tunneling or camping.) I just don't like hypocracy with those guys.
I have happened to me too, where I have tunnelled someone as they either ran into me injured or their teammates hid a lot, and I have openly apologised for tunnelling and luckily they were very good sport. I don't mind being tunnelled as long as I get a decent chase before it happens. Adding hook pressure is just as fair as pressuring gens when killer has lots of hooks.
Yeah I got tunneled as old man Jake and I went into a streamer’s chat and jokingly said “respect your elders” and they apologized for tunneling and said they needed to in order to have enough pressure in the game. I already knew that was the cause, and I wasn’t upset so I stuck around and said nice things
@@imtoxiq_ I put it in quotations because he did down someone else in between and I accidentally ran into him two times. He didn't intent to go after me, but I was just unlucky to ran into him.
@@AaronDukeYT yeah, that's true. I'm long past my times where it's bothering me. I got more important things to do than keep thinking about lost games.
If two of the last survivors in trial are close to each other, its not "slugging for 4K", it's ending the game efficiently. Same goes to hook diving. If I as killer cannot even turn around to leave before the person on hook gets saved, I will turn around to go for them. Don't want to be "tunnelled"? then don't hook dive and farm hooks in front of the killer :)
Great video as always! I once "didn't play fair" when I went to down a survivor when they were self caring in the basement of mother's dwelling. And I wasn't camping, I went to kick the generator upstairs after hooking them... TWICE, back to back, I see you in the basement with nurses calling... I think that's on you. For some reason they DC. Go figure.
@@AaronDukeYT I catch them around main. Take them to basement. They get saved as I'm kicking gen, but i don't know where the guy saving them is. So naturally, i take advantage of the lovely glowing aura i see in MY basement. Back to hook you go. They get saved again, they still don't leave the basement and self care AGAIN. I was going to slug them to give a bit of mercy, give a hint that perhaps they should think again where to heal, maybe leave the basement? Unfortunately they disconnected as soon as I downed them.
@@AaronDukeYT it’s basically the same satisfactory you get from downing a survivor that was hiding in corners or lockers or killing a t bagger whenever you weren’t being toxic
I saw the intro and at first thought “okay a lot of young people are like this with games” Then you said he was 33 years old and Then…. I just feel so much more mature for my age now. Even in a game or irl.
"Rules for thee not for me" has been taken to the next level with this guy. It's one thing when it's one side criticizing the role they don't typically play. But it's another to hear this guy complain about the very things he does himself lmao As for the whole "Rulebook" thing in general. We just need to find a middle ground. Cause on one hand, yeah no one is entitled to tell the others how they play *technically*. But on the other, why not try to play in a way that is both 1) More fun 2) Will probably get EVERYONE more bloodpoints, pips, etc. I dislike facecamping not cause of "GRR MUH RULEBOOK", but because of "Well now we're ALL bored and NONE OF US are gonna get points and pips cause all normal gameplay has essentially ceased to exist. You might as well be an AFK Killer except now one Survivor doesn't even get Gen points."
Exactly, “I can play how I want” well yeah ofc you can, but you’re ruining the game for every one you go against and your enjoyment of this game is a fraction of what it would be if you played better or just switched to a different game entirely
I haven't watched this yet but I've played against this guy and he was one of the worst I've played against. I was in a 4 man SWF and we were on comms. He had a petty rant about how SWFs aren't a thing the Devs planned for the game and that using comms is bullshit and that me and my SWF were playing dirty coz I took him to RPD. (RPD BEFORE THE CURRENT UPDATE)
Thats another thing i dont get about the DBD community. Its not made or "planned" around SWF Gameplay? WHY THE FU** CAN I INVITE 3 FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH ME THEN! EDIT: Unpopular Opinion: RPD is Nice on both sides
@@DezKaiZer Exactly, like why would the Devs put in a mechanic to let you play with Friends if that's not what they wanted to happen? Also I agree if you know how to play RPD you can get a really good game on both sides
Because the community demanded it. SWF both saved the game but also slowly killing it. solo q is more awful because of SWF entire different level of stress for killer. And killers preparring their build to face SWF which then ruins the casual solo q experience. Stop being biased about a topic like that because you play SWF. It was not auch thing when the game launched you wanted to play with friends you did in custom games. So PPL that complain about SWF are right to do it
Not fair to you or your mates to receive that treatment. At the same time, I will also note that almost nobody enjoyed old RPD, or even the newer split versions. I'd feel like I got done dirty too having to run against a premade on a map of their choice (and one of the worst ones in the game at the time.)
Fractured cowshed is one of the strongest if not the strongest map in the game. So I get why he played that way, as you said. BUT you have to expect the same thing when playing survivor. Also getting 4 man slugged is the survivors fault for grouping up they can’t slug all four of you unless you make mistakes and group up. All perks are crutch that’s what they’re there for. I hate the term 2nd chance perk this is a asymmetrical game unbreakable, adrenaline, dead hard they’re the same thing as a killer running perks to regress gens it’s a chance for you to stop them from being done by running pain Rez, pop, surge, over charge, eruption, ruin, thana, gift of pain, or chase perks to help you against good loopers bam, spirit fury, enduring, and others. Both sides have perks to help them it’s part of the game.
Notice how you say "every perk is a crutch" but your examples dont include perks like Wake Up, Up the Ante, Ace in the Hole... Because those perks are all just as valuable/crutch perks as all the meta perks you named, right? I get why people say "every perk is a crutch" but it's extremely disingenuous to pretend like you dont know what people are talking about when they say "crutch." Maybe you don't actually know... in that case -- nobody is talking about anything but the most meta perks usually when they say "crutch perks." Maybe all perks *are* crutch, but it's so slippery and dishonest of anybody to sit and pretend that a perk like Visionary, Up the Ante, or other examples, are the same level of "crutch" as any of those other meta perks.
@@NotJarrod first off all it’s funny that all the other perks you mentioned I’ve personally used to turn the tide of a game I was playing. Wake up let’s you get exits that maybe spawn to close together opened faster and a chance of escaping and it is used in most comp matches it’s also great in solo if you’re the last alive. Up the ante can be used to make the almost guaranteed kobe build taking immense pressure away from the killer and off your teammates when they don’t have to save. Ace in the hole let’s you run whatever add ons you want and can spawn great add ons from a chest up to a borrowed time bottle or way more health charges to let you heal multiple times. Visionary is great when a killer is doing a great job defending gens or a map where it’s hard to find the last gens like indoor maps. It’s not disingenuous or slippery to think people are allowed to use whatever perks they want and shouldn’t be shamed for it. Every perk has a chance to turn the tide of the game some just have a more probable chance. You can run unbreakable for 40 games and never use it but that doesn’t mean it’s not a great perk when it can change the whole game and take away pressure from the killer to totally changing the end of a game. So no all perks are “crutch perks” since you don’t have to actually bring any but the game is balanced around the fact you will run perks. Both sides have perks that gives them a chance at helping them win. And even the lower probability perks can still change a game by allowing you to maybe loop longer or keep a gen from being done long enough of you to get some pressure back. Also saying it’s “slippery and disingenuous” is you taking the game WAY to seriously. Because both sides have more frequently used perks but perks are only as good as the player using them. I have over 5400 hours in this game any perk can change the game and I’ve probably done it. This is a asymmetrical game you cant really compare perks to the other side because both sides are so vastly different.
@@thelastgamer1 except you completely missed the point of what I said so that whole essay you wrote is pointless. I'm pointing out that most people talking about crutch perks mean a specific kind of perk. That's why its slippery and disingenuous. You're ignoring the context of what people mean and taking an overly literal interpretation of "every perk is a crutch." Nowhere did I say a perk like Wake Up is useless. I said that it's obviously *not as useful* as other meta perks, which are what most people mean when they say "crutch." Really, if you arent going to pay attention to that previous point, dont even bother wasting my time with a reply. *Almost nobody is talking about a perk like Unrelenting when they are talking about crutch perks* If you continue to ignore that fact, theres really nothing that can be said further to you. I dont care at all about how much success you personally find with each of those perks, you still cant call a perk like Wake Up as useful or crutch as a perk like DH. And I never claimed that people should be "shamed" for using what perks they want. Just dont pretend like every perk is the same power level, or that you're not using a meta loadout for an easier game. If you need your crutch perks it's okay, just dont pretend like you arent using them. Hilarious though how because I have a different opinion I "take the game too seriously" Mr. Five Thousand Hours. Get off your high horse man. You're either refusing to acknowledge or just too closed minded to realize that other people might feel differently about things than you. If you can manage to read what I'm telling you and respond appropriately, then try that. I ain't rly in the mood to reply to somebody who can take me saying "not every perk is on the same power level" and respond by desperately attempting to discuss anything *except* what I said. But I'm satisfied since you agreed with me yourself anyway in your comment when you mention "Every perk has a chance to turn the tide of the game some just have a more probable chance." You even said my whole point yourself and you still act like I'm wrong 😂 Anyway, like I said, big reminder, making it super super obvious since you didnt catch it the first time: *don't bother wasting my time with an unrelated reply if you arent going to even bother addressing what I say: that not all perks are on the same level, and your "every perk is a crutch" is a short sighted and overly literal take.* if you can manage a counterargument to that point, I'd love to see your logic. Otherwise, your response isnt worth reading.
@@NotJarrod I wrote this whole reply about how I never said some perks were not stronger than others and you put words in my mouth but I just erased it because your honestly not worth the time to write it. You’re rude and insulting you said my reply was an essay but then wrote a thesis much longer than you needed to so you can add in other insults on a comment thread on a video about toxicity. This is why I said you take it to seriously you’re insulting a real person. Even your first comment that I’m slippery and disingenuous because I think perks are all crutch people use them that’s what they’re for. You’re not worth the effort to debate or talk to I usually try to find common ground with some one when they disagree with me, but you’re not the type of person that is worth doing that with. Don’t bother replying I purposely didn’t debate your moot point so this wouldn’t continue. ✌🏽 I’ll just block you
I definitely see what you're saying and I agree tbf! The perks are there to buff a certain aspect of the game for the player, whether that be gen speed, healing speed, or the speed of opening the gate, so it definitely makes sense!
Okay, 1:51 is 100% understandable. The corn is against us, and we all know it. It must be destroyed. I will push for the creation of some sort of Locust swarm killer that deletes all the corn from the Coldwind maps, for the good of us all.
I know exactly who this guy is. I asked him about why he thought some of the things he did and I got banned from his chat, with my unban request being denied despite me simply asking a question. This guy is actually the most entitled back and forth streamer I've ever seen, it's actually insane. I can tell you about more of the things he's done if you're interested as my circle and I have had quite a few interactions with him over several video games. Thank you for finally making a video about him. I was planning to make one myself but was too concerned about copyright lmao
I don't think you're biased on either side, you give a fair review over both, the only reason some would think ur killer sided is because the killers you review aren't usually as toxic as the survivors you review/the killers you review use tactics that are seen as toxic but really aren't
Aaron, I suggested your video to my friend and he really enjoyed it even though he doesnt play DBD but familiar w the game. But he does play other MP games! He just disbelieves how ridiculous some people r, over a game! LOL so keep the video coming!
I'm still watching the video, but I wanted to comment before I forget. I appreciate that you always do your best to be a neutral party to all involved; you look at the good, bad, and ugly on all sides based on how people played, behaved, and what they said. It's so important that people remember that everyone is human and even the most annoying or toxic players still have good qualities as a person or are good players. No one is 100% bad 100% of the time, and anyone can learn and grow.
I recognize this guys voice and I have to say he's tilted yes but he's a really good person. I used to watch him stream Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017) and he was more chill and to be fair one of the reasons I dont frequent his channel anymore its because his tantrums but he's cool and legit and I've lurked his channel and he shows he cares about his community he could be bigger if he wasnt so temperamental but hes overall a good guy just very ragey
Indeed. There's a roughly equal percentage of entitlement on each side, it's just that analyzing any *one* game has a much higher chance of a survivor being toxic or entitled since there are 4 chances for one of the survivors to be and only 1 chance for a killer to be. Also bear in mind that for a very long time survivor was by and far the more popular role, so more videos of that will exist simply again because it had more chances to occur. But I firmly believe that percentage wise it's about the same.
Addressing the "u always talk about survivor toxicity but not killer", I think it's also due to the fact that a lot of the survivors complains are about slugging camping and tunneling which could be essential in killer gameplay whereas survivor toxicity such as flashlight clicking is very blunt and can be very easily identified as toxicity
How is clicking a flashlight toxic? Or teabagging? People are waaaaay to sensitive. It's just bming, tops. Or gameplay trying to agitate killer. I don't think any game mechanics are toxic. Messages and such can be toxic. Killer main btw
People talk about survivors more because there are more survivors in every match than killers. You have 4 times the chance of someone being "toxic" who's a survivor. I don't find clicking flashlights, tunneling or camping etc toxic anyways. Those are parts of the game. The only thing I would ever consider toxic is messaging people rude things after etc. Once it's outside/after the game it's a different story.
@@Barec76 Yes exactly, glad someone else agrees about that. I don't understand why people are so pressed over these things. Not to mention clicking flashings, pointing and crouching are also ways people use to say hi, or just in general try to get your attention for innocent reasons as well. And nutty people already mad at the game can misread things sometimes. Like yesterday I did the "come here" motion, crouched twice and pointed, wasn't running or anything after (I was already clear to get the gates if i took a hit anyways)..killer was pissed about it, and I was literally just trying to show him where my boon totem was so he could get points for kicking it. People who are toxic assume the worst about everyone else I'm pretty sure is a large part of the problem. When survivors crouch a couple times, point somewhere and aren't even running from me.. I assume they're trying to tell me something, not being cheeky.
Survivors complains are about tunneling, slugging, camping, killer power and perks. Killers complains are about survivor perks, looping, swf, flashlight clicking, and tbags. Also, there are more survivors who play this game than killers. Yes there’s toxicity on both sides, but it’s a more likely to find survivors complaining more than killers (survivor que times are fast, meaning there aren’t enough killers who play this game). These shouldn’t be considered toxic. What’s toxic is having to take it so personal that they message/dm you something rude, hateful, etc.
@@dingdawng maybe now it’s better if they updated it. But at the time there is a reason people used it for 1v1s, and it was statically the most survivor sided map.
I actually on the official forums made a thread "Those who DC on purpose, why do you do it?" and I got a TON of answers, and pretty much this is the answer. They do it because they don't think the killer deserves a 4K. When someone DCs, it's a 0 for killer and a 0 for that survivor. So yea, correct me if I am wrong cause I am bad at math, but my MMR doesn't go down, and it doesn't go up because +0 and -0 from 0 still equal 0. How is that a bad thing? Sure, a 4K is nice cause then you will get more skilled survivors next game, and that makes for a more fun game in theory, but... how are you punishing me by not raising my MMR? If anything, please. Disconnect more often. I am a Legion main and nothing makes me laugh more than survivors DCing to deny me the 4K. I already got a 3K dude. You're doing me a favor by not raising my MMR as much.
@@ragabashmoon1551 exactly! I still get BP, my MMR is a bit lower than it would be so my next game isn’t as hard (if MMR works) and then they lose their BP and get a 5 minute timeout
This reminds me of a custom match where they called lithe a “second chance perk” and were complaining about how you should get bloodpoints in customs. The worst part was they had like, 1353 hours 😭
I understand camping since 3 gens popped and the other survivors were swarming the hook, it's a valid strategy but don't get mad at BM'ing if you do that kind of stuff
The correction of spelling made me laugh. That was perfect. The best part about saying ggwp, is if they are trying to get a rise out of you they don’t get it and get upset it didn’t work!
Honestly, seeing that Wesker bullrushed that TTV, Is actually the most entertaining thing I ever seen 😂 🤣 but seriously, who complains about a Map, idk it might be me, but seriously, it's a Map. And also, all he does is complain and whine like some child that didn't get anything for Christmas. Also with a slice of Hypocrisy.
I was a killer in this person game before and this level of entitlement is wild. Completely upset with everything his team does and how I play as killer. This is why many people are not playing DBD
I play Killer first and foremost. The farm is big, true. However, Killers are faster than survivors and, since I like to side with style over substance in this game, Leatherface fits perfectly in this map because it reminds me of his iconic film, whether I hook all or none. I personally don’t like to camp and tunnel. Given how long I have to wait to match, I’d rather chase as many as I can. A camped survivor is at least one generator popping unsupervised. So, I like to spread the panic by chasing all over the place. Get them nervous, make mistakes. As for this streamer… we as a society need to stop the deification of these people. It is unsettling to know that an unhinged and immature person holds sway over thousands of impressionable young viewers who will look up to this ignominious display as conduct to be applauded and replicated.
I think any amount of leaving a survivor on the ground over, say, 2 or 3 seconds, could count as slugging, but slugging isn't toxic or BM or anything like that. It's a strategy just as much as tunneling or camping, and it's all meant to put pressure on survivors. So, in my eyes, the Huntress did kind of slug, but she didn't do anything wrong either.
If I accidentally knock down someone who I had just hooked (I've had them take a protection hit while injured -why?!) I will leave them on the ground and try to get someone else. Why? My hopes are the teammates will heal them to at least one heal state cuz I feel bad.
@@elliot7024 If you sabo hooks and bodyblock and constant blind and genrush and off the record, you're preventing the killer from doing their objective and ruining the game for the killer. /s Can you tell IDC about about either side's rulebooks? Killers aren't playing for the survivors to have fun, because you know very well that survivors don't care about the killer's fun either.
@@elliot7024 Wait, so bodyblocking and all that is a valid strategy, but slugging to get kills isn't? Suddenly that's toxic? Tell me why it's okay for survivors to do things that frustrate the killer to do their goals, but when the killer does things that frustrate survivors, suddenly it's wrong? It's a two-way street, friend. Slugging, camping tunneling, are all just as valid as flashlight saving and pallet stunning and bodyblocking. They're all used to further their respective sides' goals, and it's hypocritical to claim that one side is allowed to frustrate the other, but the other side is not.
If I see the fourth Survivor, I'll go after them for the 4k unless they had a real bad match. In that case, I'll let'em get hatch. I know what a rough match feels like as a Surv and my empathy kicks in. I guess it's hard to see the hypocrisy in oneself, but I hope that this TTV recognizes what they're doing one day and sees it as an avenue for change. Anyway, thanks for the vid. Much love
i used to get so mad about clickies but playing both sides made me realize we should all be able to play & celebrate how we want to. It's not a personal attack
I think the word "entightled" just gets banded about a shit ton, because in the past the game has been "balanced" arguably more in favour of survivors. So killer mains just use the term constantly. I play more killer but have recently started to play both sided evenly and I genuinely don't see either sides having an advantage. At the end of the day, it's a skill game. Either you have the skill to better your opponent, or you don't. Simple as. But some people can't hack the fact that they just aren't cut out to be a gamer, so blame EVERYTHING and ANYTHING.
Tbh, I sometimes get mad when on a losing streak and call everything op, but it only lasts a couple games and then I realise it’s a game, I think that’s what these streamers struggle with because their income is generated from playing the game so they forget that it’s pixels on a screen. Still doesn’t excuse what some of the people say and do (*shortbread*). Also great vid as always, and would you ever think of a doing a small let’s play like mortuary assistant, just as a one of. Would love to see it!
I got someone in a game, of which i was playing survivor and they were playing killer. they said that since i didnt stream constantly, i shouldnt have TTV in my name, and i was trash. this is when i started trying to stream. from then, i went from 1-2 followers to 40 (which is crazy to me, considering i only stream on weekends). for those wondering how this relates: dont let people get you down. they will tell you you suck and should be bullied. dont listen. keep playing and doing what makes you happy😉 Edit: Sorry for the novel. the way this guy talked just made me very mad.
Since this guy seems so certain that maps determine his entire game, I want to share two matches I had recently, both of which were influenced by the map I was on. 1: I’d been working towards my adept Nurse, and this was my 4th attempt (read “4th time playing Nurse”). I’d tried two flat maps with decent line of sight, and I’d lost both times, so I put my fate into the hands of the game. I was greeted with RPD. In the end, I managed to play my cards right, and even as a baby adept Nurse, I scored a win on RPD. So clearly, map isn’t everything. 2: During my adept Hag match, I was spawned into Suffocation Pit. The team played really well, and they were pumping out gens like no tomorrow. By a stroke of luck (and a little bit of pressure), they managed to forget to spread out their gens, leaving the remaining four on one confined side of the map. I was able to down and hook them all by keeping them all together. That team was excellent, and had I been on any other map, I would not have had that kind of control. So what’s the point of this? The map doesn’t make or break your game. You can use it to your advantage, of course, but just because you spawn in on Coldwind Farm, it doesn’t mean you’ve automatically lost.
I actually went against this person a long time ago when I was playing as Trickster now mind you I tried playing as well as I could cuz I was new at him so I did tunnel him at one point to apply pressure cuz gens were being popped quick and when I watched their vod they just kept calling me names and stuff and I said “GGs” in their chat while they were live and got a sarcastic sounding response but I let it pass because I found it hella funny, didn’t think it’d get this bad with them though, I’ve for sure watched more of their streams and did hear some toxicity and entitlement from their side; stuff I’ve picked up on after getting better at killer and understanding how the game works
I always thought “slugging” was only used for an aggressive “down and leave” gameplay, I.e. dying light slug strategy or downing and refusing to pick up, even with a nearby hook. I feel like if you’re in the ground for 15 seconds (waiting out DS) or less, then you aren’t “slugged,” you’re just in the dying state, and man, don’t you wish you had Unbreakable right now? Guess I have this man to thank for “educating” me on what slugging is. Thanks, dude! /sarcasm Edit: omg, not the “I DCed!!! It doesn’t count!!” argument. Not me thinking about a Slinger game I had on Lery’s where not one, but TWO people DCed…and one of them brought the map offering. (I’m not even a god-tier Slinger, and to my knowledge, I wasn’t even tunneling/camping/slugging, I was just kinda playing to play, since I had ranked up and didn’t have pips to lose.) Edit 2: I feel like complaining about maps can be unrelated to entitlement just because…lbr, we all have a map we hate or find difficult to play. If I load in to Red Forest and I’m playing Trickster…yeah, I’m not gonna be too pleased about that. But I’m certainly not going to then blame the survivors for it. Map RNG can be kinda unlucky at times, especially with random pallet spawns. I think it’s okay to feel like things could’ve gone better for you if you had a better map for your side (killer or survivor). The difference lies in laying sole blame at the feet of the other side. But maybe that’s just me being entitled, idk.
I hate when people accuse me of camping when there is literally an anti-camp feature. I had a game where they accused me of camping basement when I wasnt camping basement... I would hook, leave to find a chase and come back after they got unhooked. As far as im concerned if the anti camp feature isnt working then Im not camping you. I dont even watch the hook from far away, I legit only come back after the loud noise notification, yet people call me a camper way too often.
I'm yet to learn how this game works (bought it ages ago and only just started it to run the c script or whatever Microsoft does). But I can say this much for sure. With some players it doesn't matter what you do or don't do, that salt will flow. Best not to think much of it or laugh it off even and just kill them with kindness. I'm curious how the anti camping works though. As for all these terms like slugging and tunneling I'm thoroughly confused. Like is tunneling referring to getting tunnel vision or being forced into a hallway??
The "anti-camp" is only 16 meters. That is such a small radius. It is extremely easy for killers to still camp, being almost directly in front of hook.
I can respect that in every video I’ve seen from u talking abt these people if they do decent or have a point you give it to them regardless of the bigger picture. I feel like the way you do it can open up some people who aren’t too deep into their ego/toxicity into changing
the part where he said “go look for someone“ when wesker came back to the hook made no sense. he WAS looking for someone, which is why he saw him and came back
Good lord, "you didn't kill me because I DCd" Last night my son and I were playing (he's 20, I'm 42) and his game tanked and DCd him. He asked me to go in the end game chat to apologize to the Huntress and the rest of the team (two random people) for the DC and to explain that it wasn't intentional.
I've been told that "playing fair" is: not camping, not tunneling, let survivors open chests, complete heals and get at least some progress on gens. If we had to adhere to that, it would be difficult to do much as a killer.
If a survivor leads me too far away from any hook spots, it wastes less of my time to leave them slugged than picking them up, knowing that I won't make it to any hooks.
He literally camped, tunneled and slug failing to do so and gets mad the he doesn't successfully. Plus the huntress did great because it is ok to check your surroundings before picking up.
That wesker was probably just quickly checking a gen. Then circled back since the other survivor was in the middle of the map, and catching a survivor on the way to them would give you both a chase and pressure another survivor to leave a gen. It's a really simple strat I'd unapologetically do. This guy didn't consider this and chose to trade hooks when it didn't pan out his way and complained like he didn't hand the wesker easy pressure
People who dc just helps the killer. They don’t waste the killer time picking them up, finding a hook, hooking them and getting rid of a hook. During that time survivors could reset, finish a gen, or power the gates. So glad nowadays they have bots replace them and it’s always funny when a bot plays better than them 😂
He *is* indeed right about complaining about mmr, though. The huntress was obviously way better than his and the other survivor's skill levels, so they shouldn't have been matched. But they still were because dbd's threshold for matching mmr is massive. Even though I disagreed with a lot of what he thinks, I also wouldn't say he's a hypocrite for complaining about slugging in the huntress match, while slugging himself while playing as bubba. This is because he needed to do things like slug if he wanted to win, because he was losing badly. The huntress didn't have this reason because she was destroying them at 4 gens. He explained his opinion poorly - what he actually is against is slugging at 5/4 gens or when there's no reason to try that hard etc. Same thing goes for "camping" and "tunneling". It happened in the wesker game at 5 gens, whereas he'd basically already lost on cowshed. That is what he is angry at.
For those wondering: No, this is not Shortbread.... 😂
His voice is so similar
@@FoxExcess kind of, just not as deep. 😂
How could anyone think it's Shortbread? He didn't spuriously accuse anyone of being a pedophile even once!
Omg I didn't even notice this is like a high pitch shortbread also we have gotten lots of negative stuff on this channel can we get like a part 2 for that really REALLY wholesome video
this should just be your staple comment in every video lol XD
A bubba player throwing tantrums? Dude he’s just method acting
Lmao 🤣
Give this genius the pin 🤣
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Academy Award baiting for an Oscar. So typical
ok i main bubba and even i got to laugh at this
there's a lot of entitlement and toxicity in this game but I'd like to share a wholesome DBD moment I had a couple days ago: it was my birthday so I changed my name to "Birthday Girl". One of the killers that night (Deathslinger) made us stand in the central room of RPD in front of the big statue and then he clicked "Happy Birthday" for me with his gun. He was a streamer so I went to his stream afterwards and he was such a nice guy and I'm glad that people like him exist and play DBD.
AWWWW
Aww that’s so sweet! Although it would’ve been nice to do the celebration in the West Office room with the “Welcome Leon” sign since they threw a party for him :)
How do you click with his Gunn? I’d like to try that
@@cuppedcup5048 he fired a shot to empty it and then just kept clicking it, I think 🤔
That is the cutest thing I have heard! That is why I continue to play. For every 1 terrible person I come in contact with I meet 5 really great ones. I've met some of my friends through DBD. I try to remember the wonderful parts and not the terrible things.
“You didn’t kill me, I DC’d!”
“You can’t fire me, I quit!”
You can't quit, you are fired!
Same energy 😂
He still gets the points if you dc
@@mr.bomber4381 you can’t fire, you are quitted
@@BraidensWorldProductionsCan’t quit me cause your now on fire.
He's the type of person to actively run towards and follow the killer but then complains about getting tunneled.
I Will count DC 's for kills once awhile so if he's caught me counting a DC as a kill he'll be way upset or so and maybe saying things. LoL
You're not wrong He seems to have the mentality that if he's been hooked once then the killer should just leave him alone for the rest of the game 😂
@@AaronDukeYT if he wants to play like that he should be ready to get face camp and tunnel even have fun, plus it's just a game
@@Slayer602ttv imo a DC counts as a death if they’re on a hook or about to bleed out while downed
@@AaronDukeYTDon’t a lot of survivors think that?
I once had a friend that I played with awhile back. The Ghost Face played so good and got the 4k on us. He then proceeds to tell me that the killer should be banned for playing the way he did. Dude never camped, never tunneled and played "fair". I stopped playing with him after that because playing with someone like that is not what I wanted in a teammate.
This guy was cringey asf. Also, I'd like to point out that adrenaline is not a crutch perk, it's a clutch perk. That's just my opinion tho.
Ah yes, being good at the game=reportable. I would never play with someone like that either. That's even worse than people who think being chased=being tunneled.
Yeah I hate it to play killer now, survivors think it’s toxic to win. Good on you for not playing with them anymore
to be fair: Any perk can be a 'crutch' perk, it really depends on how you USE them. If you're entirely relying on perks, then they're all crutches. Because at the end of the day, how you control your survivor and the tiles in the match is what you should focus on, not how well your perks help you survive. Perks are supposed to be 'addons' in a way, that boost your skill, not GIVE you skill. It's a mistake i see a lot of survivors rely on, rather than focus on getting better at the looping, making quick decisions, etc. They run all the perks that give them second chances when they mess up, and only run those because of that. But this guy was clearly just crying over literally anything he could see, not giving constructive feedback. Good on you for not playing with your 'friend' anymore, they seemed quite frustrating.
Especially since the killer can counter adrenaline. When it works, it works!
Fair play to you for being able to recognise that and take a step away from playing with that person though, sometimes people can get a bit blind to it when it's a friend
I've always had a mindset that you should play both sides so that you're less likely to be entitled... unfortunately this guy is proof that you can be incredibly entitled when you play both sides. The fact this guy acts like this at age 33, and has a following too, makes me really sad.
I have the same mindset, I've always said that playing the other side helps you be more empathetic to what your opposition has to go through... But apparently not 😂😂
I agree I play both sides but my swf doesn’t and there are a lot of times that they get mad at the killer and I explain why they did it in a pretty simple look at the hooks to gens kind of way and they go “oh yeah fair enough”
@@CloseshaveGaming there are times when I am playing and I am getting mad, but it's usually a good mad as I am being outplayed. No one wants to be outplayed, but yet you do I appreciate and respect when they are running loops around me, even if it riles me up, it's a positive getting aggy.
@@craigwatkins4072 spot on mate losing to someone whose Clearly good at the game is always pretty fun
@@CloseshaveGaming playing against them at times makes my blood boil (Autism and ADHD means we want to be the best at everything we do) but it's how we get better at it
I love how happy you get when you say "but... Let's play devil's advocate"
But yeah, this is the double standards we love in dbd :)
But at least, despite acting like a child, this guy keeps it 'decent' and refrains from using slurs and serious insults.
Doesn’t make a difference whether he’s a blazing racist or just a hater of lgbtq community, he’s actually worse. Pissing and moaning from map launch is cringe.
@@cdajah6920 really now? You genuinly think crying over a map is WORSE than calling people racist and sexist slurs and seeing them as lesser humans? Really now? Are you REEAALLY sure about that?
@@cdajah6920 uh, what? i think it does make a difference if someone is racist/homophobic etc. maps are not oppressed lmao.
@@cdajah6920 uh so it's worse to complain about a map in a game then being racist, sexist, and genuinely discriminating?
@@cdajah6920 Bruh take this L, how is whining about a map make you worse of a person than treating someone as less than human because they're different?
Mr. Duke, I have no idea how you can continue to listen to these kind of people.
I lose brain cells hearing what some of these people say. Props to you for putting yourself through that for us. ✌️
It's the entire reason I laugh, if you laugh while watching them then it makes it easier 😂
My god... the entilement is just unreal. This is one of the best ones so far. Thanks for exposing him Aaron!
Thank you for watching and supporting! 💙
Definitely not a "slugging for the 4k", I would've done the same thing if I was the huntress
Same!
This guy is literally 'rules for thee, not for me'. He's jumping forward and backwards quicker than Wesker bounding across the map.
Literally! The mental gymnastics 😂
The first 5 seconds already make me worry for that guy
He has some strong opinions 😂
@@AaronDukeYT emphisis on “strong”
Ah, hell yes, more entitled streamers. My Sunday is saved.
I played against a friendly ttv! He also "tunneled" me out of the game, but after going to his stream to say gg he said he was sorry, it was rather unfortunate that he got me. But he hoped that I had otherwise good games. Very nice guy, you like to see it. (I'm not mad about tunneling or camping.)
I just don't like hypocracy with those guys.
I have happened to me too, where I have tunnelled someone as they either ran into me injured or their teammates hid a lot, and I have openly apologised for tunnelling and luckily they were very good sport. I don't mind being tunnelled as long as I get a decent chase before it happens. Adding hook pressure is just as fair as pressuring gens when killer has lots of hooks.
Yeah I got tunneled as old man Jake and I went into a streamer’s chat and jokingly said “respect your elders” and they apologized for tunneling and said they needed to in order to have enough pressure in the game. I already knew that was the cause, and I wasn’t upset so I stuck around and said nice things
It's always a pleasure to come across nicer streamers, and fair play to you for being able to leave it in the game, no matter what happened :)
@@imtoxiq_ I put it in quotations because he did down someone else in between and I accidentally ran into him two times. He didn't intent to go after me, but I was just unlucky to ran into him.
@@AaronDukeYT yeah, that's true. I'm long past my times where it's bothering me. I got more important things to do than keep thinking about lost games.
If two of the last survivors in trial are close to each other, its not "slugging for 4K", it's ending the game efficiently. Same goes to hook diving. If I as killer cannot even turn around to leave before the person on hook gets saved, I will turn around to go for them. Don't want to be "tunnelled"? then don't hook dive and farm hooks in front of the killer :)
Well said!
Great video as always!
I once "didn't play fair" when I went to down a survivor when they were self caring in the basement of mother's dwelling. And I wasn't camping, I went to kick the generator upstairs after hooking them... TWICE, back to back, I see you in the basement with nurses calling... I think that's on you. For some reason they DC. Go figure.
Are you saying that you DIDN'T let them go after they were obviously self caring in a place where you had previously found them?!?! How dare you 😂😂
@@AaronDukeYT I catch them around main. Take them to basement. They get saved as I'm kicking gen, but i don't know where the guy saving them is. So naturally, i take advantage of the lovely glowing aura i see in MY basement. Back to hook you go. They get saved again, they still don't leave the basement and self care AGAIN. I was going to slug them to give a bit of mercy, give a hint that perhaps they should think again where to heal, maybe leave the basement? Unfortunately they disconnected as soon as I downed them.
I love you the way you just always had a smile for "should I play the clip?" The way that this guy is so unaware and hypocritical is unreal
There's just something satisfying about being able to catch people out like this 😂
@@AaronDukeYT it’s basically the same satisfactory you get from downing a survivor that was hiding in corners or lockers or killing a t bagger whenever you weren’t being toxic
I saw the intro and at first thought “okay a lot of young people are like this with games”
Then you said he was 33 years old and Then….
I just feel so much more mature for my age now. Even in a game or irl.
"Rules for thee not for me" has been taken to the next level with this guy. It's one thing when it's one side criticizing the role they don't typically play. But it's another to hear this guy complain about the very things he does himself lmao
As for the whole "Rulebook" thing in general. We just need to find a middle ground. Cause on one hand, yeah no one is entitled to tell the others how they play *technically*. But on the other, why not try to play in a way that is both
1) More fun
2) Will probably get EVERYONE more bloodpoints, pips, etc.
I dislike facecamping not cause of "GRR MUH RULEBOOK", but because of "Well now we're ALL bored and NONE OF US are gonna get points and pips cause all normal gameplay has essentially ceased to exist. You might as well be an AFK Killer except now one Survivor doesn't even get Gen points."
Exactly, “I can play how I want” well yeah ofc you can, but you’re ruining the game for every one you go against and your enjoyment of this game is a fraction of what it would be if you played better or just switched to a different game entirely
You make some interesting points! It's hard to get the entire community to agree to do something though, as nice as the outcome may be 😂
him :doesn’t like face camping killers
also him: plays the killer KNOWN for face camping 😂
Literally, you just couldn't write it 😂
I think he’s just trying to reflect the character he’s playing as he sure loves to tantrum 😂❤
He does indeed! 😂
That last Wesker had such a funny counter
I feel sad that this TTV played Chris
It could be consider character slander with how entitled this TTV is
From what I've seen he plays as a few characters, if that helps? 😂
My favorite thing I have been told in end game chat is "Go watch an Otz video and see how to play the killer" after getting a 4K.
Like Otz always plays fair lol
„Fair“ by overlooking missplays and not capitalizing on it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
In the end both sides are on the mercy of the other side to have fun
I haven't watched this yet but I've played against this guy and he was one of the worst I've played against.
I was in a 4 man SWF and we were on comms. He had a petty rant about how SWFs aren't a thing the Devs planned for the game and that using comms is bullshit and that me and my SWF were playing dirty coz I took him to RPD.
(RPD BEFORE THE CURRENT UPDATE)
Thats another thing i dont get about the DBD community. Its not made or "planned" around SWF Gameplay? WHY THE FU** CAN I INVITE 3 FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH ME THEN!
EDIT:
Unpopular Opinion: RPD is Nice on both sides
@@DezKaiZer Exactly, like why would the Devs put in a mechanic to let you play with Friends if that's not what they wanted to happen? Also I agree if you know how to play RPD you can get a really good game on both sides
Because the community demanded it. SWF both saved the game but also slowly killing it. solo q is more awful because of SWF entire different level of stress for killer.
And killers preparring their build to face SWF which then ruins the casual solo q experience.
Stop being biased about a topic like that because you play SWF. It was not auch thing when the game launched you wanted to play with friends you did in custom games.
So PPL that complain about SWF are right to do it
@KruxSmash no no I understand that of you don't like the map but he said that he would love to play against a team that isn't a swf on RPD
Not fair to you or your mates to receive that treatment.
At the same time, I will also note that almost nobody enjoyed old RPD, or even the newer split versions. I'd feel like I got done dirty too having to run against a premade on a map of their choice (and one of the worst ones in the game at the time.)
man, watching your videos have help me correct some of behaviors I had when I start playing DBD. Keep up the great work
I'm so glad I could help, keep up the positive energy! 💙
Fractured cowshed is one of the strongest if not the strongest map in the game. So I get why he played that way, as you said. BUT you have to expect the same thing when playing survivor. Also getting 4 man slugged is the survivors fault for grouping up they can’t slug all four of you unless you make mistakes and group up.
All perks are crutch that’s what they’re there for. I hate the term 2nd chance perk this is a asymmetrical game unbreakable, adrenaline, dead hard they’re the same thing as a killer running perks to regress gens it’s a chance for you to stop them from being done by running pain Rez, pop, surge, over charge, eruption, ruin, thana, gift of pain, or chase perks to help you against good loopers bam, spirit fury, enduring, and others. Both sides have perks to help them it’s part of the game.
Notice how you say "every perk is a crutch" but your examples dont include perks like Wake Up, Up the Ante, Ace in the Hole...
Because those perks are all just as valuable/crutch perks as all the meta perks you named, right?
I get why people say "every perk is a crutch" but it's extremely disingenuous to pretend like you dont know what people are talking about when they say "crutch." Maybe you don't actually know... in that case -- nobody is talking about anything but the most meta perks usually when they say "crutch perks." Maybe all perks *are* crutch, but it's so slippery and dishonest of anybody to sit and pretend that a perk like Visionary, Up the Ante, or other examples, are the same level of "crutch" as any of those other meta perks.
@@NotJarrod first off all it’s funny that all the other perks you mentioned I’ve personally used to turn the tide of a game I was playing. Wake up let’s you get exits that maybe spawn to close together opened faster and a chance of escaping and it is used in most comp matches it’s also great in solo if you’re the last alive. Up the ante can be used to make the almost guaranteed kobe build taking immense pressure away from the killer and off your teammates when they don’t have to save. Ace in the hole let’s you run whatever add ons you want and can spawn great add ons from a chest up to a borrowed time bottle or way more health charges to let you heal multiple times. Visionary is great when a killer is doing a great job defending gens or a map where it’s hard to find the last gens like indoor maps.
It’s not disingenuous or slippery to think people are allowed to use whatever perks they want and shouldn’t be shamed for it. Every perk has a chance to turn the tide of the game some just have a more probable chance. You can run unbreakable for 40 games and never use it but that doesn’t mean it’s not a great perk when it can change the whole game and take away pressure from the killer to totally changing the end of a game. So no all perks are “crutch perks” since you don’t have to actually bring any but the game is balanced around the fact you will run perks. Both sides have perks that gives them a chance at helping them win. And even the lower probability perks can still change a game by allowing you to maybe loop longer or keep a gen from being done long enough of you to get some pressure back.
Also saying it’s “slippery and disingenuous” is you taking the game WAY to seriously. Because both sides have more frequently used perks but perks are only as good as the player using them. I have over 5400 hours in this game any perk can change the game and I’ve probably done it. This is a asymmetrical game you cant really compare perks to the other side because both sides are so vastly different.
@@thelastgamer1 except you completely missed the point of what I said so that whole essay you wrote is pointless.
I'm pointing out that most people talking about crutch perks mean a specific kind of perk. That's why its slippery and disingenuous. You're ignoring the context of what people mean and taking an overly literal interpretation of "every perk is a crutch." Nowhere did I say a perk like Wake Up is useless. I said that it's obviously *not as useful* as other meta perks, which are what most people mean when they say "crutch." Really, if you arent going to pay attention to that previous point, dont even bother wasting my time with a reply. *Almost nobody is talking about a perk like Unrelenting when they are talking about crutch perks*
If you continue to ignore that fact, theres really nothing that can be said further to you. I dont care at all about how much success you personally find with each of those perks, you still cant call a perk like Wake Up as useful or crutch as a perk like DH. And I never claimed that people should be "shamed" for using what perks they want. Just dont pretend like every perk is the same power level, or that you're not using a meta loadout for an easier game. If you need your crutch perks it's okay, just dont pretend like you arent using them.
Hilarious though how because I have a different opinion I "take the game too seriously" Mr. Five Thousand Hours. Get off your high horse man. You're either refusing to acknowledge or just too closed minded to realize that other people might feel differently about things than you. If you can manage to read what I'm telling you and respond appropriately, then try that. I ain't rly in the mood to reply to somebody who can take me saying "not every perk is on the same power level" and respond by desperately attempting to discuss anything *except* what I said.
But I'm satisfied since you agreed with me yourself anyway in your comment when you mention "Every perk has a chance to turn the tide of the game some just have a more probable chance." You even said my whole point yourself and you still act like I'm wrong 😂
Anyway, like I said, big reminder, making it super super obvious since you didnt catch it the first time: *don't bother wasting my time with an unrelated reply if you arent going to even bother addressing what I say: that not all perks are on the same level, and your "every perk is a crutch" is a short sighted and overly literal take.* if you can manage a counterargument to that point, I'd love to see your logic. Otherwise, your response isnt worth reading.
@@NotJarrod I wrote this whole reply about how I never said some perks were not stronger than others and you put words in my mouth but I just erased it because your honestly not worth the time to write it. You’re rude and insulting you said my reply was an essay but then wrote a thesis much longer than you needed to so you can add in other insults on a comment thread on a video about toxicity. This is why I said you take it to seriously you’re insulting a real person. Even your first comment that I’m slippery and disingenuous because I think perks are all crutch people use them that’s what they’re for. You’re not worth the effort to debate or talk to I usually try to find common ground with some one when they disagree with me, but you’re not the type of person that is worth doing that with. Don’t bother replying I purposely didn’t debate your moot point so this wouldn’t continue. ✌🏽 I’ll just block you
I definitely see what you're saying and I agree tbf! The perks are there to buff a certain aspect of the game for the player, whether that be gen speed, healing speed, or the speed of opening the gate, so it definitely makes sense!
Okay, 1:51 is 100% understandable. The corn is against us, and we all know it. It must be destroyed. I will push for the creation of some sort of Locust swarm killer that deletes all the corn from the Coldwind maps, for the good of us all.
I know exactly who this guy is. I asked him about why he thought some of the things he did and I got banned from his chat, with my unban request being denied despite me simply asking a question. This guy is actually the most entitled back and forth streamer I've ever seen, it's actually insane. I can tell you about more of the things he's done if you're interested as my circle and I have had quite a few interactions with him over several video games. Thank you for finally making a video about him. I was planning to make one myself but was too concerned about copyright lmao
I don't think you're biased on either side, you give a fair review over both, the only reason some would think ur killer sided is because the killers you review aren't usually as toxic as the survivors you review/the killers you review use tactics that are seen as toxic but really aren't
An interesting observation tbf! 😁
Aaron, I suggested your video to my friend and he really enjoyed it even though he doesnt play DBD but familiar w the game. But he does play other MP games! He just disbelieves how ridiculous some people r, over a game! LOL so keep the video coming!
Thank you so much for sharing the channel, that helps my growth more than you know! 💙💙
I'm still watching the video, but I wanted to comment before I forget. I appreciate that you always do your best to be a neutral party to all involved; you look at the good, bad, and ugly on all sides based on how people played, behaved, and what they said. It's so important that people remember that everyone is human and even the most annoying or toxic players still have good qualities as a person or are good players. No one is 100% bad 100% of the time, and anyone can learn and grow.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Thank you for being here and for your support! 💙
I'm always amazed by people who get upset when the other player does the smart / logical thing to do.
That's probably why though, doing something smart means that it's harder for the person to win 😂
Danny Devito in the background gives me happiness. I live in Philly and can confirm it’s always sunny
He's the Angel on my shoulder! :D
I recognize this guys voice and I have to say he's tilted yes but he's a really good person. I used to watch him stream Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017) and he was more chill and to be fair one of the reasons I dont frequent his channel anymore its because his tantrums but he's cool and legit and I've lurked his channel and he shows he cares about his community
he could be bigger if he wasnt so temperamental but hes overall a good guy just very ragey
Indeed. There's a roughly equal percentage of entitlement on each side, it's just that analyzing any *one* game has a much higher chance of a survivor being toxic or entitled since there are 4 chances for one of the survivors to be and only 1 chance for a killer to be.
Also bear in mind that for a very long time survivor was by and far the more popular role, so more videos of that will exist simply again because it had more chances to occur.
But I firmly believe that percentage wise it's about the same.
Very well said and I definitely agree! 😀
Addressing the "u always talk about survivor toxicity but not killer", I think it's also due to the fact that a lot of the survivors complains are about slugging camping and tunneling which could be essential in killer gameplay whereas survivor toxicity such as flashlight clicking is very blunt and can be very easily identified as toxicity
We are not talking about being toxic we are talk about killer and survivor entitlement
How is clicking a flashlight toxic? Or teabagging? People are waaaaay to sensitive. It's just bming, tops. Or gameplay trying to agitate killer. I don't think any game mechanics are toxic. Messages and such can be toxic.
Killer main btw
People talk about survivors more because there are more survivors in every match than killers. You have 4 times the chance of someone being "toxic" who's a survivor. I don't find clicking flashlights, tunneling or camping etc toxic anyways. Those are parts of the game. The only thing I would ever consider toxic is messaging people rude things after etc. Once it's outside/after the game it's a different story.
@@Barec76 Yes exactly, glad someone else agrees about that. I don't understand why people are so pressed over these things. Not to mention clicking flashings, pointing and crouching are also ways people use to say hi, or just in general try to get your attention for innocent reasons as well. And nutty people already mad at the game can misread things sometimes.
Like yesterday I did the "come here" motion, crouched twice and pointed, wasn't running or anything after (I was already clear to get the gates if i took a hit anyways)..killer was pissed about it, and I was literally just trying to show him where my boon totem was so he could get points for kicking it. People who are toxic assume the worst about everyone else I'm pretty sure is a large part of the problem. When survivors crouch a couple times, point somewhere and aren't even running from me.. I assume they're trying to tell me something, not being cheeky.
Survivors complains are about tunneling, slugging, camping, killer power and perks. Killers complains are about survivor perks, looping, swf, flashlight clicking, and tbags. Also, there are more survivors who play this game than killers. Yes there’s toxicity on both sides, but it’s a more likely to find survivors complaining more than killers (survivor que times are fast, meaning there aren’t enough killers who play this game). These shouldn’t be considered toxic. What’s toxic is having to take it so personal that they message/dm you something rude, hateful, etc.
"Unbreakable should be basekit at this point"
THIS IS WHERE BHVR GOT THAT HORRIBLE IDEA LMAO
Cowshed is just one of those maps where you load in as killer and just sigh a little bit knowing its a really bad map.
I like when I get cowshed as ghostface or spirit 😫
I've literally never had problems with cowshed, it's pretty fun for me.
@@dingdawng maybe now it’s better if they updated it. But at the time there is a reason people used it for 1v1s, and it was statically the most survivor sided map.
@@halfheart3290 As I said, I never had problems with it. So unless it was updated to be better all the way back around Dredge's release then idk.
I personally always have liked Cowshed as both sides, though unlike this TTV I also prefer more open maps, so that might just be me.
Love you vods they have honestly helped change my outlook on the game quite a bit. Keep up the awesome work and the positivity!
Thank you so much! Glad I could help 💙
"I DC'd so you didn't kill me" is a mentality of MANY survivor mains nowadays, it's sad to see it in ttv form
I knew someone who used to do this in a basketball league. His team be losing by 20 with 2 minutes left and he would just quit. He never lost…
I actually on the official forums made a thread "Those who DC on purpose, why do you do it?" and I got a TON of answers, and pretty much this is the answer. They do it because they don't think the killer deserves a 4K. When someone DCs, it's a 0 for killer and a 0 for that survivor. So yea, correct me if I am wrong cause I am bad at math, but my MMR doesn't go down, and it doesn't go up because +0 and -0 from 0 still equal 0. How is that a bad thing? Sure, a 4K is nice cause then you will get more skilled survivors next game, and that makes for a more fun game in theory, but... how are you punishing me by not raising my MMR? If anything, please. Disconnect more often. I am a Legion main and nothing makes me laugh more than survivors DCing to deny me the 4K. I already got a 3K dude. You're doing me a favor by not raising my MMR as much.
@@ragabashmoon1551 exactly! I still get BP, my MMR is a bit lower than it would be so my next game isn’t as hard (if MMR works) and then they lose their BP and get a 5 minute timeout
People who play both sides but complain about something they literally do themselves are the absolute WORST
Aaron has quickly become one of my favorite youtubers to watch
Thank you so much for all the kind words! 💙💙
This reminds me of a custom match where they called lithe a “second chance perk” and were complaining about how you should get bloodpoints in customs. The worst part was they had like, 1353 hours 😭
That’s almost as many as me! Good lord 😂😂
I understand camping since 3 gens popped and the other survivors were swarming the hook, it's a valid strategy but don't get mad at BM'ing if you do that kind of stuff
17:55 had me CACKLING “I WILL SHOW THE CLIP AGAIN”
I'LL DO IT! 😂😂
The correction of spelling made me laugh. That was perfect. The best part about saying ggwp, is if they are trying to get a rise out of you they don’t get it and get upset it didn’t work!
Last I checked, Bubba is from Texas and lived on a farm.
Honestly, seeing that Wesker bullrushed that TTV, Is actually the most entertaining thing I ever seen 😂 🤣 but seriously, who complains about a Map, idk it might be me, but seriously, it's a Map. And also, all he does is complain and whine like some child that didn't get anything for Christmas. Also with a slice of Hypocrisy.
Certain maps are better for killer some are better for survivor, not saying this guy is right tho.
@@Ghost-su6vg Ah i see, I'm not quite an expert, I see a map just as it is.
Maps are very unfair in some cases
@@johnathangee1161 hm I see. My apologies, I'm very new at this game.
I was a killer in this person game before and this level of entitlement is wild. Completely upset with everything his team does and how I play as killer. This is why many people are not playing DBD
He literally seems to complain about everything, I don't know why he keeps playing if the game is so offensive to him tbh
I play Killer first and foremost. The farm is big, true. However, Killers are faster than survivors and, since I like to side with style over substance in this game, Leatherface fits perfectly in this map because it reminds me of his iconic film, whether I hook all or none.
I personally don’t like to camp and tunnel. Given how long I have to wait to match, I’d rather chase as many as I can. A camped survivor is at least one generator popping unsupervised. So, I like to spread the panic by chasing all over the place. Get them nervous, make mistakes.
As for this streamer… we as a society need to stop the deification of these people. It is unsettling to know that an unhinged and immature person holds sway over thousands of impressionable young viewers who will look up to this ignominious display as conduct to be applauded and replicated.
I think any amount of leaving a survivor on the ground over, say, 2 or 3 seconds, could count as slugging, but slugging isn't toxic or BM or anything like that. It's a strategy just as much as tunneling or camping, and it's all meant to put pressure on survivors. So, in my eyes, the Huntress did kind of slug, but she didn't do anything wrong either.
Absolutely fair! 😀
If I accidentally knock down someone who I had just hooked (I've had them take a protection hit while injured -why?!) I will leave them on the ground and try to get someone else. Why? My hopes are the teammates will heal them to at least one heal state cuz I feel bad.
@@elliot7024 If you sabo hooks and bodyblock and constant blind and genrush and off the record, you're preventing the killer from doing their objective and ruining the game for the killer. /s
Can you tell IDC about about either side's rulebooks? Killers aren't playing for the survivors to have fun, because you know very well that survivors don't care about the killer's fun either.
@@elliot7024 Wait, so bodyblocking and all that is a valid strategy, but slugging to get kills isn't? Suddenly that's toxic? Tell me why it's okay for survivors to do things that frustrate the killer to do their goals, but when the killer does things that frustrate survivors, suddenly it's wrong? It's a two-way street, friend. Slugging, camping tunneling, are all just as valid as flashlight saving and pallet stunning and bodyblocking. They're all used to further their respective sides' goals, and it's hypocritical to claim that one side is allowed to frustrate the other, but the other side is not.
@@elliot7024 And I disagree, slugging is fine.
"im gonna play fn" nah bro that one had me laughing so hard
"I dc'd it didn't count a a kill" and "You can't fire me, I quit" have the same energy
If I see the fourth Survivor, I'll go after them for the 4k unless they had a real bad match. In that case, I'll let'em get hatch. I know what a rough match feels like as a Surv and my empathy kicks in. I guess it's hard to see the hypocrisy in oneself, but I hope that this TTV recognizes what they're doing one day and sees it as an avenue for change. Anyway, thanks for the vid. Much love
i used to get so mad about clickies but playing both sides made me realize we should all be able to play & celebrate how we want to. It's not a personal attack
We love to see the positive energy!
I, to this day, cannot stand the sound of a rapidly clicking flashlight. But that's my issue, and I know it
The King of Tantrums.....plays Bubba. Ironic XD
I think the word "entightled" just gets banded about a shit ton, because in the past the game has been "balanced" arguably more in favour of survivors. So killer mains just use the term constantly. I play more killer but have recently started to play both sided evenly and I genuinely don't see either sides having an advantage. At the end of the day, it's a skill game. Either you have the skill to better your opponent, or you don't. Simple as. But some people can't hack the fact that they just aren't cut out to be a gamer, so blame EVERYTHING and ANYTHING.
Tbh, I sometimes get mad when on a losing streak and call everything op, but it only lasts a couple games and then I realise it’s a game, I think that’s what these streamers struggle with because their income is generated from playing the game so they forget that it’s pixels on a screen. Still doesn’t excuse what some of the people say and do (*shortbread*).
Also great vid as always, and would you ever think of a doing a small let’s play like mortuary assistant, just as a one of. Would love to see it!
I got someone in a game, of which i was playing survivor and they were playing killer. they said that since i didnt stream constantly, i shouldnt have TTV in my name, and i was trash. this is when i started trying to stream. from then, i went from 1-2 followers to 40 (which is crazy to me, considering i only stream on weekends). for those wondering how this relates: dont let people get you down. they will tell you you suck and should be bullied. dont listen. keep playing and doing what makes you happy😉
Edit: Sorry for the novel. the way this guy talked just made me very mad.
14:45 sais "Unbreakable needs to be basekit already"
Behavior - Hold my beer
>complains about KILLER SIDED MAPS
>facecamps and cries about survivors.
toxic killers are the gift that keeps on giving.
Since this guy seems so certain that maps determine his entire game, I want to share two matches I had recently, both of which were influenced by the map I was on.
1: I’d been working towards my adept Nurse, and this was my 4th attempt (read “4th time playing Nurse”). I’d tried two flat maps with decent line of sight, and I’d lost both times, so I put my fate into the hands of the game. I was greeted with RPD. In the end, I managed to play my cards right, and even as a baby adept Nurse, I scored a win on RPD. So clearly, map isn’t everything.
2: During my adept Hag match, I was spawned into Suffocation Pit. The team played really well, and they were pumping out gens like no tomorrow. By a stroke of luck (and a little bit of pressure), they managed to forget to spread out their gens, leaving the remaining four on one confined side of the map. I was able to down and hook them all by keeping them all together. That team was excellent, and had I been on any other map, I would not have had that kind of control.
So what’s the point of this? The map doesn’t make or break your game. You can use it to your advantage, of course, but just because you spawn in on Coldwind Farm, it doesn’t mean you’ve automatically lost.
I definitely agree, giving up at the start of the game is on you, no matter what reason you use. This guy just needs to take that responsibility tbh
Let’s goooo I missed theseeeee nice too see you back Aron!!!
Thank you very much! 💙
Honestly him loading into cowshed is a valid reaction ngl. Literally the worst map for killer lol
Oh fuck it all. He plays Felix? That hurts my soul.
Him saying base kit unbreakable should be a thing just came true lol
I’ve heard a lot of nerdy sounding people before, but I’ve never heard someone ACTUALLY have the highschool movie congested nerd voice
Coming to find like 80% of the player base is filled with hypocrites & crybabys 😵💫
I actually went against this person a long time ago when I was playing as Trickster now mind you I tried playing as well as I could cuz I was new at him so I did tunnel him at one point to apply pressure cuz gens were being popped quick and when I watched their vod they just kept calling me names and stuff and I said “GGs” in their chat while they were live and got a sarcastic sounding response but I let it pass because I found it hella funny, didn’t think it’d get this bad with them though, I’ve for sure watched more of their streams and did hear some toxicity and entitlement from their side; stuff I’ve picked up on after getting better at killer and understanding how the game works
I would love to see the reaction of one of those toxic TTVs actually getting facecamped
Wow. Most facecamping bubbas are secretly just trolls. Never seen a hardcore serious bubba play like this. 😂
I've never seen a hardcore serious Bubba tbf 😂
When you said you'd have a video out yesterday I checked back like 7 times but now it's here! Woo!
There’s a chance you don’t even get to use adrenaline lmaooo
But when you do it can be a game winning asset
And yet k mains complain when they CHOOSE to bring a perk that survs can cleanse. Like don't bring a perk you know you can lose then lmaoo
that man: u can quit the game or play fair.
me if i was that killer: u can stop bitching around and play better. I feel sorry for your team.
As the game deceit says sometimes when you die “you win some you lose some”
I always thought “slugging” was only used for an aggressive “down and leave” gameplay, I.e. dying light slug strategy or downing and refusing to pick up, even with a nearby hook. I feel like if you’re in the ground for 15 seconds (waiting out DS) or less, then you aren’t “slugged,” you’re just in the dying state, and man, don’t you wish you had Unbreakable right now?
Guess I have this man to thank for “educating” me on what slugging is. Thanks, dude! /sarcasm
Edit: omg, not the “I DCed!!! It doesn’t count!!” argument. Not me thinking about a Slinger game I had on Lery’s where not one, but TWO people DCed…and one of them brought the map offering. (I’m not even a god-tier Slinger, and to my knowledge, I wasn’t even tunneling/camping/slugging, I was just kinda playing to play, since I had ranked up and didn’t have pips to lose.)
Edit 2: I feel like complaining about maps can be unrelated to entitlement just because…lbr, we all have a map we hate or find difficult to play. If I load in to Red Forest and I’m playing Trickster…yeah, I’m not gonna be too pleased about that. But I’m certainly not going to then blame the survivors for it. Map RNG can be kinda unlucky at times, especially with random pallet spawns. I think it’s okay to feel like things could’ve gone better for you if you had a better map for your side (killer or survivor). The difference lies in laying sole blame at the feet of the other side. But maybe that’s just me being entitled, idk.
First we had the queen of rage quiting now we have the king of tantrums
"Glad you wasted your purple addons 😈" That was savage bro, bet the killer uninstalled right after.
I hate when people accuse me of camping when there is literally an anti-camp feature.
I had a game where they accused me of camping basement when I wasnt camping basement... I would hook, leave to find a chase and come back after they got unhooked.
As far as im concerned if the anti camp feature isnt working then Im not camping you. I dont even watch the hook from far away, I legit only come back after the loud noise notification, yet people call me a camper way too often.
I'm yet to learn how this game works (bought it ages ago and only just started it to run the c script or whatever Microsoft does). But I can say this much for sure. With some players it doesn't matter what you do or don't do, that salt will flow. Best not to think much of it or laugh it off even and just kill them with kindness.
I'm curious how the anti camping works though. As for all these terms like slugging and tunneling I'm thoroughly confused. Like is tunneling referring to getting tunnel vision or being forced into a hallway??
The "anti-camp" is only 16 meters. That is such a small radius. It is extremely easy for killers to still camp, being almost directly in front of hook.
Me laughing when he said adrenaline is a crutch when I use it almost all the time 😂
It's literally not a crutch perk imo, it only activates in a small portion of the game ffs 😂
I can respect that in every video I’ve seen from u talking abt these people if they do decent or have a point you give it to them regardless of the bigger picture. I feel like the way you do it can open up some people who aren’t too deep into their ego/toxicity into changing
TTV Streamer: *Moaning/complaining about survivor*
Aaron: :D
"If i lose it doesn't count"
Yeaaah I used to say that alot too....when I was 7 years old.
I love it when people say that a specific perk is a “crutch” which is funny cause all perks are a crutch
The word "entitled" gets thrown around waaaaay too much in this community lol
‘Unbreakable should be basekit’… the foreshadowing 😂
the part where he said “go look for someone“ when wesker came back to the hook made no sense. he WAS looking for someone, which is why he saw him and came back
Hey man, just a little moment of appreciation for the timestamps :)
These are hella useful, love when content creators spend some time to put these on
Good lord, "you didn't kill me because I DCd"
Last night my son and I were playing (he's 20, I'm 42) and his game tanked and DCd him. He asked me to go in the end game chat to apologize to the Huntress and the rest of the team (two random people) for the DC and to explain that it wasn't intentional.
I've been told that "playing fair" is: not camping, not tunneling, let survivors open chests, complete heals and get at least some progress on gens. If we had to adhere to that, it would be difficult to do much as a killer.
Yeah in that case it’s not fair for the killer. We have an asymmetrical 4v1 game, there’s no way to be fair
I *will* let ppl get glyphs (now). But chests and healing? Pressure is the name of the game
That "unbreakable needs to be basekit" did not age well..
"unbreakable needs to be basekit"
Damn, I didn't know he also made the new ptb.
If a survivor leads me too far away from any hook spots, it wastes less of my time to leave them slugged than picking them up, knowing that I won't make it to any hooks.
He literally camped, tunneled and slug failing to do so and gets mad the he doesn't successfully. Plus the huntress did great because it is ok to check your surroundings before picking up.
watching this on my way to work. thank you aaron for a great start in the day with a great video! 🥰
Thank you for your support! 💙
I love these kind of people who take on exposing this kind of behavior to make the community a better place for everyone.
Thank you for your support! 💙
That wesker was probably just quickly checking a gen. Then circled back since the other survivor was in the middle of the map, and catching a survivor on the way to them would give you both a chase and pressure another survivor to leave a gen. It's a really simple strat I'd unapologetically do. This guy didn't consider this and chose to trade hooks when it didn't pan out his way and complained like he didn't hand the wesker easy pressure
People who dc just helps the killer. They don’t waste the killer time picking them up, finding a hook, hooking them and getting rid of a hook. During that time survivors could reset, finish a gen, or power the gates. So glad nowadays they have bots replace them and it’s always funny when a bot plays better than them 😂
That one guy ' this is still survivor main trash talk and ignores killer entitlement"
He *is* indeed right about complaining about mmr, though. The huntress was obviously way better than his and the other survivor's skill levels, so they shouldn't have been matched. But they still were because dbd's threshold for matching mmr is massive.
Even though I disagreed with a lot of what he thinks, I also wouldn't say he's a hypocrite for complaining about slugging in the huntress match, while slugging himself while playing as bubba.
This is because he needed to do things like slug if he wanted to win, because he was losing badly. The huntress didn't have this reason because she was destroying them at 4 gens. He explained his opinion poorly - what he actually is against is slugging at 5/4 gens or when there's no reason to try that hard etc.
Same thing goes for "camping" and "tunneling". It happened in the wesker game at 5 gens, whereas he'd basically already lost on cowshed. That is what he is angry at.