A prime example of Lawful Evil. Yes he's bad but he doesn't burden himself with petty things like revenge or rage fuelled aggression, he's calculating & decides the best thing for him is to accept voyager won this round & to move on in the most self profiting way possible, revenge was never even a considered option for him.
i think lawful evil generaly make for the best villains, atleast in a realistic setting, in cartoons etc chaotic evil ones are are good if they are done well
@@LordTalax Sadly yes - this is true - Good or evil are in the eye of beholder - what might be good for you - might be evil to someone else. So yes sadly perspective matters.
@@francoisona Some respect, but not complete respect, hence the patronising remarks and acerbic humour in her responses to him upon the big reveal that she had double crossed him.
But it's that silent longing, and possible rumination on her traumatic long-term isolation and battle scars, that emotionally cut deeper than anything else. The unbearable weight of it all that she's called to endure, rather than singling out the trauma of any one particular terrible incident she has suffered in her life.
Kate Mulgrew recommended Mark Harelik for the role of Kashyk, and what a pair of performances. This is Trek writing at its absolute best. My favourite episode.
@@WatchThis-ek2og But how? The transporter trick is obviously unavailable and it was so essential they were willing to risk their lives doing it even when it started to become dangerous.
3:03 "To Hell with protocol, PRAX!!!" That tone of exasperation with the rule-mongering sidekick is the most realistic emotional response to bureaucracy in the entire franchise.
THIS is what true power looks like. It's not space battles or even screaming. It's the quiet total control a character has the entire time, and revealed at the most dramatic moment.
All the snark and sass when she changes the music selection to Mahler. It’s subtle, but dripping with delicious irony. No show of arms, but one hell of an outwitting.
I honestly thought the decision to use Mahler's music was a little heavy-handed. Using the work of one of the most famous Jewish composers as a literal Nazi is being defeated.
I think in that interview, she mentioned that she recommended this particular actor to play Kashyk.. they crank out an episode every week, and it's a long grind.. she said she really enjoyed working with him that week.
Not sure. In the end, she seemed quite depressed knowing that she finally was deceived. I think that's why this very last moment is one my favourite ones. The classical, quite cheery music in contrast to her mood she is showing. Kayshik was brillant. He is a very skilled investigator, perfectly playing his role. So in the end, I wasn't sure if there was a winner. I think both have lost. Kayshik didn't get what he wanted, but Kathrin was taught another lesson not to trust anyone in the delta quadrant....
This episode was among the best. but my personal favourite will always be from s2 ep 21. She warmly welcomes the vidiians to the bridge just before the ship self destructs. 👌
What makes this episode amazing for me is that you're sure from the start that Kashyk will betray Voyager, but then he is totally convincing as a turncoat.
Back in 2,012 I made but never used A Voyager RPG and I decided to change Kashyk from a manipulative treacherous scumbag into a guy that really was willing to turn traitor but shortly before he did turn traitor he learnt something that meant he had to make 1 of 2 choices and he knew that regardless of what choice he made and no matter how long he lived for their wouldn't be even 1 day were he didn't regret not choosing the he didn't choose In The RPG he would have been married, as far as he's aware his wife can't have kids and he knows that she's the only member of their race that hates their races telepath hunting even more then he does and she's made it clear that if she is killed because he turned traitor to protect telepaths then she'd be happy to die because she believed that if she died that way she'd die a martyr and theirs a chance, admittingly a very small chance, that her martyrdom could save millions of innocent telepaths In The RPG what would have gone wrong and stopped him turning traitor is that after leaving Voyager to act as a actual, not fake, decoy is that he got a message saying that were the tests wrong and not only could his wife have kids but he was now the father of A Son that was 42 hours old and even though he and his wife were willing to die as martyrs they weren't willing to left their Son be executed, which is why he decided to betray Voyager even though he didn't initially plan to But he still managed to save the telepaths on Voyagers 2 Shuttles without getting caught and executed as a traitor and he got away with it by pretending that the way that Janeway had tricked him was so surprising that the shock it gave him delayed the order to destroy Voyagers 2 Shuttles long enough to buy Voyagers 2 Shuttles the extra 68 seconds that they needed to get through the wormhole
@@MissingSirius I wanted to believe that they plotted this together, that he could never abandon his family for her but they had to make it look like Janeway betrayed him.
In a way Kashykk was helping them, orchestrating this entire thing in front of his people but managing to convince them to let Voyager go on through their space unmolested despite knowing there were telepaths still on board. That’s the beauty of the episode - we never really know who was playing who.
Because they weren't in it for those specific telepaths; they wanted the wormhole destroyed. Without the wormhole, the telepaths would no longer have the hope of escape from their space. Law enforcement will often let the little fish go on purpose in the hopes that it leads them to a bigger target. I'm sure every member of his crew was aware of the con game they were playing; they would have to have been, otherwise they risk exposing the telepaths in transporter suspension when they're not "supposed" to find them.
One thing. I don't think he let Janeway go simply because he got outplayed. It possible that he might have feared that Janeway had more in store for him if he didn't let her and Voyager go. After all, Janeway seemed to have handled his betrayal pretty well thus far and it would have been strange for her planning to end with saving the Telepaths.
On the BBC's Star Trek Night in the very early 00's, Shatner, Stewart, Brookes & Mulgrew were asked to chose their favourite episode, and the four nominated were put to an audiance telephone vote as to which they wanted to see most. This Episode won, and was broadcast at the end of the evening's bloc. Seeing this again as an adult, one can see all the more clearly why this was the episode nominated.
@@dboymax1 William Shatner chose The City on the Edge of Forever Patrick Stewart chose In Theory Avery Brooks chose Far Beyond the Stars Scott Bakula chose Judgement.
@@develynseether4426 "The City on the Edge of Forever" and "Far Beyond the Stars" are outstanding episodes in their own right. "Counterpoint" had some fine competitors there.
@Alex M she was classy even after he made her sit in the first officer's chair, and he sat in hers. I felt her stewing over that move myself 🤣🤣🤣 #theaudacity
Fantastic Episode. Very well acted. See at the end, when he leaves the bridge and Janeway stays back alone, there is no joy in her face by winning this particular battle.
Yeah I'm a guy but I noticed that as well. She didn't want to beat him, she wanted to MATE him. And once again, she is without the prospect of love any time soon.
"That is the theme for this evening, isn't it...?" I don't watch much Voyager, but this episode is charming, and the way Mulgrew delivered that line, in particular, just makes me chuckle. Like a subservient spouse, seeing a chance for some passive-aggressive revenge she can't pass up.
fryfry377 I took it like that but also wrapped in pain hurt and deception she truly like him she didn’t want her instincts to be correct but they were so this was a stab at him
@@hajkie The plot of the episode is bad, but the excution is fine. The light heart of the show and the fine crew make work even the worst Voyager episodes like Elogium or Emmanations. Even the worst Voyager episode is tons more enjoyable than the worst DS9 episodes.
Despite his deception -- and despite the fact that he's a total scumbag -- there still seemed to be some semblance of respect between Kashyk and Janeway at the end. Their relationship, for whatever it was, was one of the best stories told during the seven seasons of this show.
Well I can TRUELY say, he lost and gave respect to Janeway for winning. And showed no aggression to her, her crew, or her ship. I give him his respect he deserves.
I don’t know if it was intentional but . Alexander Courage borrowed the opening sequence of Mahler's Symphony No. 1, 1st movement and used it, with slight alterations, as the opening sequence for the original Star Trek
This clearly is a tribute to freedom and democracy. Devor against Federation, this episode clearly reminds me a bit of old movies of the second world war, the Devor, militaristic, xenophobic, authoritharian on the one side, the Federation, helpful, sacrifiing and risking their lives for a group of strangers they do not know. Brilliant episode, love it!
Time flies... still remember watching this as a teen... looking back can be a dangerous thing, you can get trapped by nostalgia. Better to look forward... Picard is coming, we get to see Seven again...
1:48 “JANEWAY: Computer, change music selection. Mahler's Symphony Number One, Second Movement. Maybe this will help you relax.” Love Janeway’s smugness there
i wish this was a small arch, cat and mouse game. I thought the chemistry between him and the captain was brilliant. kashyk was a good character too, conflicted, or was he. Smug, reminded me of Q.
ElAurian same here - so well written and acted you could see even after all that they still had a deep connection but in the end their job is their first priority and they both mutually respected eachother - Janeways just took that hurt and deception and swallowed it up and carried on - only a tiny smidgen of emotion showed and then she buried it - I love this woman actress and character
Great episode - you can see several movie "tropes" in this clip. First, Kashyk and Janeway both sit down at the same moment.. which is hilarious because Janeway and Chakoay always do this - here we have a complete alien who somehow knows the "sitting down together" protocol. The second is when he starts to leave the room and turns back to look at Janeway one last time. In most movies, when a character exits the room, they almost always pause, look back , and maybe utter one last line.
Btw, graceful exit by the villain, no moaning, bitching or empty threats. He humbly stood up from the table, gratulated his opponent and left. With his dignity intact.
Watched this episode for the first time only a few weeks ago. I didn't knew anything about it... and it immediately became one of my favourite episodes of the entire Series.
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This is my all time favorite Star Trek episode, it's one that could have easily been a 2 part episode but they did great editing and pacing to keep it as one
This also shows how much better it makes a show when you add background music to the scenes. It’s a shame Rick Berman demanded Star Trek shows to go without. Only DS9 got some because of Ira Behr.
"I had to take a few precautions. You understand." "Better than anyone." One of the things I love about Star Trek that it's even able to show humanity in a morally grey situation. Kashyk was obviously part of a corrupt system, but they gave him a complex background beyond "I'M EVIL SO WHAT". You can see that in the exchange above. He knows the system sucks, but he isn't willing to change it, despite the fact that he probably wants to. It's difficult and practically impossible to walk away from something that benefits you. Even if it's morally wrong. This is how you create great villains. Give them complexity and show they're willing to see and understand the other side. Yet they take their own side anyway.
Agreed. He did admit some regret in his staunch adherence to his government's persecution of telepaths -- i.e., wrestling with his conscience in the past; admitting to Janeway that she "made a tempting offer..."
Earlier in the episode, they shared a passionate kiss. One can only wonders if Janeway used him for intimacy, knowing he was using her to get at the telepaths . Her rather melancholy expression at the end showed she wished he was a turncoat for real and what could’ve been.
One of my absolute favorite scenes of the show. One of the episodes which demonstrate why Janeway was and will always be the best Star Trek Captain. She was strong, confident, compassionate and loyal. She was her own woman and never let go of her principles. Moments like 1:29 and 1:48 truly capture her wonderful personality as a woman and as a Captain. Thank-you so for the upload, and of course LLAP 😊
Who else yelled “PRAX!” After watching this? Haha . Thank you. For these clips, sincerely, thank you. They give me Hope. And sometimes, a little hope, can be a real Life Saver.
it is aired on 22 yrs old ago (1998). When you watched it, do you know what the symphony (with minor) played on Kashyk really is ? For the google and UA-cam, now, i could search it in 3 mins. it is "Tchaikovsky Symphony No.4" 2nd. mov. --> "Mahler" Symphony No1. 2nd mov.
That's what I thought too... You're surrendering a warp-core that's more explosive than a nuke, photon torpedoes, transport systems, replicator... database. That fell into the wrong hands it would be detrimental.
@@Armann_ The shuttles could easily have been stripped down beforehand with just the minimum necessary and a self destruct sequence could have been set with any number of parameters to activate once through the wormhole. Mostly, it is a story, and it is the telling of a story that matters not the details, that would be a report.
Plus, as @@JarlOfSwot pointed out, two of Voyager's crew were on those shuttles. So, they weren't giving them away at all. they were a means to transport them out of harm's way.
I liked this one a lot. No escaping an anomaly in the knick of time, no battle where they just manage to eek out a win and best of all no holodeck schlock. Just an interesting well written story that truly tested Janeway's character.
I loved this reveal, Janeway was in control the entire time in a hostile environment using only diplomacy and her wits.
Mehhhh, it was the jolape ships and their firepower but once the romansi's fired their jist on the frontman the plot was over
Why did you try to sound insightful
LMAO @ The one liners in this show.
"You've created false readings!"
"That is the theme for this evening isn't it?"
The one afterwards is also good: "Adjust our sensors for refractive shielding" "Well, you gave us the technology, I hated to waste it....:
He should have known she was going along with this too easily ....
@@BillinHungary learn to quote lmfao
*you* created. Simple past tense.
To hell with protocol PRAX!
A prime example of Lawful Evil.
Yes he's bad but he doesn't burden himself with petty things like revenge or rage fuelled aggression, he's calculating & decides the best thing for him is to accept voyager won this round & to move on in the most self profiting way possible, revenge was never even a considered option for him.
i think lawful evil generaly make for the best villains, atleast in a realistic setting, in cartoons etc chaotic evil ones are are good if they are done well
Evil is a point of view
@@LordTalax Sadly yes - this is true - Good or evil are in the eye of beholder - what might be good for you - might be evil to someone else. So yes sadly perspective matters.
@@LordTalax Yes, and we are seeing the show from Voyager's point of view.
Fuzzy Duo actually it was more out of respect and a small percentage of love lust and awe of Janeway
Not surprisingly, Kate Mulgrew cited this episode as her favorite.
She was born for tragic roles. These are her specialty, no wonder she loved that episode.
Mine too
And rightfully so. The acting was absolutely magnificent.
@Shane Hawkins nope I directed it.
it was my first time directing a show.
This is such a magnificent episode. It’s my favorite as well.
this was a true star trek episode. no battles, huge explosions, just poetic justice XD
Nothing wrong with battles or explosions but you have to have some more substance and compelling characters.
@@zoidberg444 I agree.
and MUSIC
@@aredub1847 Classical Music is good. I usually prefer Rock Country, Rock, and Heavy Metal music.
randomrazr wormhole, close enough to a big boom
It's always a treat when two adversaries have this level of mutual respect and understanding.
'Mutual respect'? Buddy, the last thing Janeway has for him is respect ..
@@francoisona No, but she fancied the absolute arse off him...😁
@@trebleking1641 🤣 Spot on.
@@francoisona Some respect, but not complete respect, hence the patronising remarks and acerbic humour in her responses to him upon the big reveal that she had double crossed him.
@@darrenpat182I always felt it was less of a double-cross and more of a "plan B because I don't trust this guy."
I love that this nuanced, clever writing is interspersed with
"P R A X"
🤣👏🏻
ab-so-lu-tely ! xD
It's so satisfying to shout PRAX!. They really chose a great name for his XO
PRAX! The Star trek version of "Miss TESSMACHER!!"
@@kevinskoien6165 Or the best friend of one of the biggest bad asses in sci fi!
The closest to heartbreak we ever saw Janeway. That last shot almost says 'you'll remain alone,after all' . The expression on her face grips you.
Just a sec, I believe Night certainly portrayed Janeway as being emotionally unmoored, albeit, for entirely different reasons.
But it's that silent longing, and possible rumination on her traumatic long-term isolation and battle scars, that emotionally cut deeper than anything else. The unbearable weight of it all that she's called to endure, rather than singling out the trauma of any one particular terrible incident she has suffered in her life.
It’s lonely at the top. ;/
Plus, she's down a couple more shuttles.
@@IronFanJoe Tuvok and Vorek were on the shuttles, I'm guessing they rendez-vous with voyager outside Devor's space.
Kate Mulgrew recommended Mark Harelik for the role of Kashyk, and what a pair of performances. This is Trek writing at its absolute best. My favourite episode.
It is also Kate Mulgrews favourite episode.
Where's Tuvok though?
@@Hedning1390 hiding from the aliens
@@WatchThis-ek2og But how? The transporter trick is obviously unavailable and it was so essential they were willing to risk their lives doing it even when it started to become dangerous.
@@Hedning1390 him, and the other Vulcans, left with the telepaths to the real wormhole
3:03
"To Hell with protocol, PRAX!!!" That tone of exasperation with the rule-mongering sidekick is the most realistic emotional response to bureaucracy in the entire franchise.
Indeed!
A very rare and perfect response in the script!
DIET COKE!!! Grossman from Tropic Thunder.
The actor paying the sidekick was also one of the Earth Force admirals in Babylon 5...
So true.
THIS is what true power looks like. It's not space battles or even screaming. It's the quiet total control a character has the entire time, and revealed at the most dramatic moment.
Exactly. Something that Nu Trek doesn't seem to understand.
The Hell are you on about
Now every time something goes wrong at work I'm going to yell "PRAX!"
Just be sure to include, "To Hell with Protocol!''
Make sure you stress that "A" as much as you can.
"PRAAAAAAHX"
That only works if the something that goes wrong, is a maddeningly rule-mongering, pencil-pushing little weasel of a co-worker.
One of my favourite episodes 😅
"Computer change music selection, Mahler symphony no.1 second movement, mabye this will help you relax"
All the snark and sass when she changes the music selection to Mahler. It’s subtle, but dripping with delicious irony. No show of arms, but one hell of an outwitting.
I saw this episode when it first aired. I had never heard a Mahler Symphony before. Now I’ve heard them all and love them. Thanks Voyager!
I honestly thought the decision to use Mahler's music was a little heavy-handed. Using the work of one of the most famous Jewish composers as a literal Nazi is being defeated.
@@shiningarmor2838 Its also counterpoint music, so it was fitting in that sense.
relax prax
One of the best episodes and a huge insight into Janeway's character. She is my favorite captain.
In an interview once, Kate Mulgrew said that this was her favorite episode of the series.
Rightfully so, this was a fantastically acted and written episode.
I think in that interview, she mentioned that she recommended this particular actor to play Kashyk.. they crank out an episode every week, and it's a long grind.. she said she really enjoyed working with him that week.
One of Janeway's finest moments 👏👏👏
Indeed.
Not sure. In the end, she seemed quite depressed knowing that she finally was deceived. I think that's why this very last moment is one my favourite ones. The classical, quite cheery music in contrast to her mood she is showing. Kayshik was brillant. He is a very skilled investigator, perfectly playing his role. So in the end, I wasn't sure if there was a winner. I think both have lost. Kayshik didn't get what he wanted, but Kathrin was taught another lesson not to trust anyone in the delta quadrant....
This episode was among the best. but my personal favourite will always be from s2 ep 21. She warmly welcomes the vidiians to the bridge just before the ship self destructs. 👌
@@ElAurian, Expertly analyzed. Bravo!!!
"You've created false readings."
"That is the theme for this evening, isn't it?"
And _this_ is what it looks like when tables start to turn.
Why would you say this
What makes this episode amazing for me is that you're sure from the start that Kashyk will betray Voyager, but then he is totally convincing as a turncoat.
I wanted to believe until the last moment. So well acted on both accounts.
Back in 2,012 I made but never used A Voyager RPG and I decided to change Kashyk from a manipulative treacherous scumbag into a guy that really was willing to turn traitor but shortly before he did turn traitor he learnt something that meant he had to make 1 of 2 choices and he knew that regardless of what choice he made and no matter how long he lived for their wouldn't be even 1 day were he didn't regret not choosing the he didn't choose
In The RPG he would have been married, as far as he's aware his wife can't have kids and he knows that she's the only member of their race that hates their races telepath hunting even more then he does and she's made it clear that if she is killed because he turned traitor to protect telepaths then she'd be happy to die because she believed that if she died that way she'd die a martyr and theirs a chance, admittingly a very small chance, that her martyrdom could save millions of innocent telepaths
In The RPG what would have gone wrong and stopped him turning traitor is that after leaving Voyager to act as a actual, not fake, decoy is that he got a message saying that were the tests wrong and not only could his wife have kids but he was now the father of A Son that was 42 hours old and even though he and his wife were willing to die as martyrs they weren't willing to left their Son be executed, which is why he decided to betray Voyager even though he didn't initially plan to
But he still managed to save the telepaths on Voyagers 2 Shuttles without getting caught and executed as a traitor and he got away with it by pretending that the way that Janeway had tricked him was so surprising that the shock it gave him delayed the order to destroy Voyagers 2 Shuttles long enough to buy Voyagers 2 Shuttles the extra 68 seconds that they needed to get through the wormhole
@@jamesmarshall4764 wut
@@jamesmarshall4764 Man I want to play a Voyager RPG, sounds like fun
@@MissingSirius I wanted to believe that they plotted this together, that he could never abandon his family for her but they had to make it look like Janeway betrayed him.
I love it when the bad guys have class and some sense of honor and sportsmanship. Doesn't get any better than that.
Sportsmanship is the word I was looking for. He's not focused on revenge, doesn't get petty. He has his belief system and he respects Janeway for hers
In a way Kashykk was helping them, orchestrating this entire thing in front of his people but managing to convince them to let Voyager go on through their space unmolested despite knowing there were telepaths still on board. That’s the beauty of the episode - we never really know who was playing who.
MackerelCat yeah he wanted to leave
Because they weren't in it for those specific telepaths; they wanted the wormhole destroyed. Without the wormhole, the telepaths would no longer have the hope of escape from their space.
Law enforcement will often let the little fish go on purpose in the hopes that it leads them to a bigger target. I'm sure every member of his crew was aware of the con game they were playing; they would have to have been, otherwise they risk exposing the telepaths in transporter suspension when they're not "supposed" to find them.
Janeway is the strongest strategist of all the captains.
I think more so than Jean-Luc.
@@Lilacgem-02 Captain Picard had Starfleet to refer to. At the end of many episodes, "Set course for Starbase 8472." Janeway has none of that.
One thing. I don't think he let Janeway go simply because he got outplayed. It possible that he might have feared that Janeway had more in store for him if he didn't let her and Voyager go. After all, Janeway seemed to have handled his betrayal pretty well thus far and it would have been strange for her planning to end with saving the Telepaths.
Come on now. Even those who don’t like Voyager have to agree that this is one powerful episode.
I think it's up there with TNG.
Not as powerful as Inner Light but close.
It had the same feel of loss, love, betrayal, and tragedy
@@Lilacgem-02 Well I mean, very few episodes are remotely close to the quality of The Inner Light, let's be real.
This is my sleeper for the best under-appreciated episode of Voyager.
Who would not like Voyager? Oh yeah, a moron would.
On the BBC's Star Trek Night in the very early 00's, Shatner, Stewart, Brookes & Mulgrew were asked to chose their favourite episode, and the four nominated were put to an audiance telephone vote as to which they wanted to see most. This Episode won, and was broadcast at the end of the evening's bloc.
Seeing this again as an adult, one can see all the more clearly why this was the episode nominated.
The best thing is the 'Captains Picks' were later added to a DVD boxset called Captain's Log.
What were the other episodes selected?
@@dboymax1 William Shatner chose The City on the Edge of Forever
Patrick Stewart chose In Theory
Avery Brooks chose Far Beyond the Stars
Scott Bakula chose Judgement.
"Better than anyone"
@@develynseether4426 "The City on the Edge of Forever" and "Far Beyond the Stars" are outstanding episodes in their own right. "Counterpoint" had some fine competitors there.
“To hell with protocol, PRAX!”
So many times I wanted to scream this in meetings.
The bridge is yours... Janeway: It always was
It's like him saying "The chess board is yours"
Basically.
@Alex M it was a joke I didnt say she actually said it damn
@Alex M she was classy even after he made her sit in the first officer's chair, and he sat in hers. I felt her stewing over that move myself 🤣🤣🤣 #theaudacity
She is who calls the shots!
Fantastic Episode. Very well acted. See at the end, when he leaves the bridge and Janeway stays back alone, there is no joy in her face by winning this particular battle.
Yeah I'm a guy but I noticed that as well. She didn't want to beat him, she wanted to MATE him. And once again, she is without the prospect of love any time soon.
It’s interesting but these types of moments with her always make me think of Picard - I think he was also a true loner in a way..
@@luckystarpiano I think if you can get to 54 unmatched, you have the right to call yourself a Bachelor ❤️😁
Love how he talked to his underling.
"PRAX!"
Somehow made the poor guy's name sound like the dirtiest insult ever!🤣
"That is the theme for this evening, isn't it...?" I don't watch much Voyager, but this episode is charming, and the way Mulgrew delivered that line, in particular, just makes me chuckle. Like a subservient spouse, seeing a chance for some passive-aggressive revenge she can't pass up.
fryfry377 I took it like that but also wrapped in pain hurt and deception she truly like him she didn’t want her instincts to be correct but they were so this was a stab at him
There are really bad episodes and there are masterpieces like this one. Thats Voyager.
Aldo Raine in fact I don’t see that any Voyager episode is bad
@@-M0LE The one where they cross the warp 10 limit and turns into lizards and have lizard babies.
hajkie so I knew someone would bring this one up but I like this episode
@@hajkie The plot of the episode is bad, but the excution is fine. The light heart of the show and the fine crew make work even the worst Voyager episodes like Elogium or Emmanations. Even the worst Voyager episode is tons more enjoyable than the worst DS9 episodes.
Oh, there were a few VERY bad episodes! But, for the most part, the stories written for this series were great and very entertaining!
Despite his deception -- and despite the fact that he's a total scumbag -- there still seemed to be some semblance of respect between Kashyk and Janeway at the end. Their relationship, for whatever it was, was one of the best stories told during the seven seasons of this show.
JANEWAY: I don't approve of being deprived from my chair. Hmm, but I must admit, Chakotay's certainly kept this chair nice and warm.
Oh she was pissed he took her chair .....
Well I can TRUELY say, he lost and gave respect to Janeway for winning. And showed no aggression to her, her crew, or her ship. I give him his respect he deserves.
This episode is great, boosted by that amazing classical music soundtrack that was present through various parts of the episode, especially the end!
I don’t know if it was intentional but . Alexander Courage borrowed the opening sequence of Mahler's Symphony No. 1, 1st movement and used it, with slight alterations, as the opening sequence for the original Star Trek
As a classical musician, that always makes me geek out in joy 🙏🏻❤️🎶
The Best of Captain Janeway, Compassionate, but not weak!
This clearly is a tribute to freedom and democracy. Devor against Federation, this episode clearly reminds me a bit of old movies of the second world war, the Devor, militaristic, xenophobic, authoritharian on the one side, the Federation, helpful, sacrifiing and risking their lives for a group of strangers they do not know. Brilliant episode, love it!
"Well you gave us the specifications. Seemed a shame to waste them" such sass lol
I must admit I thought he had Janeway! He was right her selflessness does make for an easy target but Janeway is no slouch! Great episode.
Unbelievable that this episode was first aired over 20 years ago (16th December 1998)...
Exactly, seems so modern. How time flies.
Wow, way to make me feel old.
@@DblOSmith Ditto
Time flies... still remember watching this as a teen... looking back can be a dangerous thing, you can get trapped by nostalgia. Better to look forward... Picard is coming, we get to see Seven again...
@@mice9330 I dunno, friend. I'm not too confident that they'll do the character justice.
1:48 “JANEWAY: Computer, change music selection. Mahler's Symphony Number One, Second Movement. Maybe this will help you relax.” Love Janeway’s smugness there
i wish this was a small arch, cat and mouse game. I thought the chemistry between him and the captain was brilliant. kashyk was a good character too, conflicted, or was he. Smug, reminded me of Q.
His character was well-written and well-acted. Good TV.
You don't this often enough now days.
Kate is an incredible actor. That look of longing/regret/sorrow as he's leaving the bridge 👌
1:48 One of Janeway's greatest statements 😁👏👏
Oh ..... she was petty for this 🤣🤣🤣
Trust but verify.
"And the American's think that Ronald Regan thought that up. Can you imagine?"
@@BammerD Ah, is see you are a man of culture.
Or the 190th Rule of Aquastion, Hear all, trust nothing
In Russian it goes: "доверяй, но проверяй". And it was going around _long before_ Ronald Reagan was born. Lol.
A Jab at Romance, mystery, intrigue with a little pinch of deception - That was an exceptionally cool episode :D
I love how Kashyk answers his own questions. Janeway is leading the dance, he's only a step behind, but that's all she needs.
04:16 now that’s acting. Kate always gets me in my emotions
Best moment of the episode. Makes me very sad every time I watch it.
ElAurian same here - so well written and acted you could see even after all that they still had a deep connection but in the end their job is their first priority and they both mutually respected eachother - Janeways just took that hurt and deception and swallowed it up and carried on - only a tiny smidgen of emotion showed and then she buried it - I love this woman actress and character
It’s soooo old classic Hollywood and yet Shakespearean / theatrical at the same time, isn’t it?
Such an epic character and even more epic actress ❤️
Great episode - you can see several movie "tropes" in this clip. First, Kashyk and Janeway both sit down at the same moment.. which is hilarious because Janeway and Chakoay always do this - here we have a complete alien who somehow knows the "sitting down together" protocol. The second is when he starts to leave the room and turns back to look at Janeway one last time. In most movies, when a character exits the room, they almost always pause, look back , and maybe utter one last line.
1:13 "Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering kaboom!"
oh right. My mum said she removed the bomb,
illudium Q-36 explosives are very unreliable...
Kaboom tomorrow.
@@jayt9608 There's always a boom tomorrow.
Am I the only one who noticed Janeway looking at Kashyk with longing as he left the bridge?
Not at all. It's perfectly consistent with the themes and plot.
Their methods may differ, but they both just wanted to go home.
Ah they love eachother, in a badass sort of way
If you're the only person on Earth with eyes, yes.
This episode made me curious enough to look up the music of Gustav Mahler. I like some of it.
Same.
Frasier - yes Niles you play Mahler at that piano for Maris. but you hate Mahler. besides Maris who doesn't.
Kevin McFalls listen to the last 10 minutes of Mahler’s 3rd. If I had to listen to only one piece of music for the rest of my life, it would be that.
Same here. Mahler Symphony #1 2nd Movement has become my favorite piece from this classical composer. Never heard of it until this episode of Voyager.
Mahler was a favorite of Dmitri Shostakovich.
Btw, graceful exit by the villain, no moaning, bitching or empty threats. He humbly stood up from the table, gratulated his opponent and left. With his dignity intact.
Loved that Kashyk character! He was a hoot!
Me too!!
One of THE best Voyager episodes ever in my opinion.
Watched this episode for the first time only a few weeks ago. I didn't knew anything about it... and it immediately became one of my favourite episodes of the entire Series.
One of the BEST Star Trek episodes ever!
Definitely one of the BEST moments in all of Star Trek ever
This one is an absolute gem!
the sheer existence of PRAX within the constellation of dramatis personae lifts the thing on a whole new level of metaphysical fun.
I bet that Riker wouldn't want to play poker against Janeway...
Prax disliked this vid.
and 2 of his crewmembers
PRAX!
@@Bitchslapper316 Do you think either of you would benefit from disliking this video?! As far as you're concerned, these dislikes, never, occurred; make sure youtube team shares this understanding
@@ankylonshadow Well played Kanhf0514, it seems I never did earn your trust.
A most forgiving and likeable baddie.
This is my all time favorite Star Trek episode, it's one that could have easily been a 2 part episode but they did great editing and pacing to keep it as one
yes, 2 part episode definetly
Extremely considerate of the telepaths to speak out loud amongst themselves as they were escaping
Mark Harelik provided a master class on how to be a real villain. This is an amazing episode.
One of Voyager's best episodes IMO.
you know, i have never seen this episode, looks like there's a lot in S5 I missed. .. yay!! brand new Voyager episodes!!
Without a doubt my favorite Voyager villain. He was probably one of the best in the franchise
Definitely my fave Voy villain.
One of my favorite episodes.
One of the best Janeway moments ever....
Possibly the best Star Trek scene of all time
The ultimate Star Trek chess game. Check and mate. Victory to Janeway
To hell with protocol, PRAX!
Love the way he shouts that name.
This also shows how much better it makes a show when you add background music to the scenes. It’s a shame Rick Berman demanded Star Trek shows to go without. Only DS9 got some because of Ira Behr.
I just love this episode and the soundtrack
Janeway being a BOSS as only she can..Only way it could've gone worse for him is if he messed with her coffee
he was probably pissing in it when she wasn't looking
The callback to this one on Prodigy made me so happy.
That face she makes when she isn’t allowed in her seat 😂
I love this episode the story is great Captain Janeway is the best 👍👍👍
"I had to take a few precautions. You understand."
"Better than anyone."
One of the things I love about Star Trek that it's even able to show humanity in a morally grey situation. Kashyk was obviously part of a corrupt system, but they gave him a complex background beyond "I'M EVIL SO WHAT". You can see that in the exchange above. He knows the system sucks, but he isn't willing to change it, despite the fact that he probably wants to. It's difficult and practically impossible to walk away from something that benefits you. Even if it's morally wrong.
This is how you create great villains. Give them complexity and show they're willing to see and understand the other side. Yet they take their own side anyway.
Agreed. He did admit some regret in his staunch adherence to his government's persecution of telepaths -- i.e., wrestling with his conscience in the past; admitting to Janeway that she "made a tempting offer..."
My favorite line doesn't appear in this clip. Janeway is surprised and says "You gave a masterful performance..."
"The bridge is yours." Janeway, in her head: "It always was...."
Earlier in the episode, they shared a passionate kiss. One can only wonders if Janeway used him for intimacy, knowing he was using her to get at the telepaths . Her rather melancholy expression at the end showed she wished he was a turncoat for real and what could’ve been.
Kate beautifully blended strength, leadership and femininity in that role
Janeway you magnificent bastard.
“The bridge is yours.”
“Always was.”
one of the top Voyager episodes
I love how the music fits in with Janeway’s emotions at 4:05
The wookie homeworld is one of the best Star Trek villains to date. Kudos to the actor.
One of my absolute favorite scenes of the show. One of the episodes which demonstrate why Janeway was and will always be the best Star Trek Captain. She was strong, confident, compassionate and loyal. She was her own woman and never let go of her principles. Moments like 1:29 and 1:48 truly capture her wonderful personality as a woman and as a Captain. Thank-you so for the upload, and of course LLAP 😊
wonder if she had a back up plan if they decided to seize the ship
@@randomrazr
YEAH
IT WAS
" 7 of 9
ASSIMILATE
THESE BASTARDS "
Who else yelled “PRAX!” After watching this? Haha
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Thank you.
For these clips, sincerely, thank you.
They give me Hope.
And sometimes, a little hope, can be a real Life Saver.
You're welcome Steven. Your are right a little hope can be a life saver. I watched my channel when I am feeling down and it do help me.
One of my favorite episodes of the series
Tuvok hidden under captain's chair: "may I come out now, pleeeease?"
it is aired on 22 yrs old ago (1998).
When you watched it, do you know what the symphony (with minor) played on Kashyk really is ?
For the google and UA-cam, now, i could search it in 3 mins.
it is "Tchaikovsky Symphony No.4" 2nd. mov. --> "Mahler" Symphony No1. 2nd mov.
"The bridge is yours"
Janeway's thinking "Yes. Yes it is".
We dont give away our technology
.... But here, have 2 shuttles lol
they do replicate new ones like all those torpedoes
Don't forget Tuvok and Vorik were also on those shuttles.
That's what I thought too... You're surrendering a warp-core that's more explosive than a nuke, photon torpedoes, transport systems, replicator... database. That fell into the wrong hands it would be detrimental.
@@Armann_ The shuttles could easily have been stripped down beforehand with just the minimum necessary and a self destruct sequence could have been set with any number of parameters to activate once through the wormhole. Mostly, it is a story, and it is the telling of a story that matters not the details, that would be a report.
Plus, as @@JarlOfSwot pointed out, two of Voyager's crew were on those shuttles. So, they weren't giving them away at all. they were a means to transport them out of harm's way.
I liked this one a lot. No escaping an anomaly in the knick of time, no battle where they just manage to eek out a win and best of all no holodeck schlock. Just an interesting well written story that truly tested Janeway's character.
Loved this episode. Janeway was the GOAT. Got the bad guys with subtlety and classical music, she rocks! 👍
She knew he was deceiving her the whole time, but that lingering shot shows it still hurt.
You know what’s weird I have just watched this
That's no coincidence. That'd be the UA-cam algorithm and other tech you use monitoring you
Voyager has so many gems. This episode is one of them.