This one popped my brain a little bit haha! But I hope it didn’t confuse anyone more than before. Basically, Thunder eggs can be geodes, geodes can’t be thunder eggs. That’s as far as I got in my learning 😆 Buuuuuuuut! If you have any info that may help it make more sense, please let me know. Trust me to take something simple and make it confusing hahaha! Have a brilliant couple of weeks everyone and I’ll see you guys next vid with a long overdue tumble video 😉
I finally got a slant lapidary machine, and ground down finger tips lol. Getting aluminum dob sticks and already have wax and a warmer. Mar should have your royal blue to ya soon. I experimented with making rods and they turned out great. Stay safe and rock on!!!
Here’s my take on it: Every thunder egg starts out ‘life’ as a geode. If the geode’s hollow center fills in completely with silicates, it becomes reclassified as a thunder egg. So when you’re collecting the lovely round rocks and they’re intact, they can be called geodes with certainty. But it’s not until you cut them open and see they are solid geodes that you can call them thunder eggs. One could, of course, shake an uncut geode and determine if it’s just a geode by listening for particles rattling around in side. But if you hear nothing moving around, only a saw or hammer will reveal which one it is.
Ah Brother, thank you so much for the magnificent eye "rockcandy" in the morning to get me going on a really rainy day here.👍 Absolutely love your enthusiasm on that super steep slope in the rain digging like a crazy man for precious little chunks of lovely mother earth!😁 Looked like an awesome day to get out and dig your and Benny's hearts out, thanks for sharing the adventure with us all! Awesome, awesome, awesome experience cutting em on the saw!!! And please note, thundereggs can be and are somewhat fragile little chunks of goodness and any chance they have for the "CAP" to pop off it will. After seeing thousands upon thousands you'll start to note that each thundergg has a dimple at one end and a pimple at the other. (this also helps identify what angle to cut but more about that later)🤦♂️ The geologic formation the eggs/geodes were in seemed fairly consolidated at that first wall but still easy to pry em out due to all the moisture in the ground. I would honestly recommend a "Gad pry bar" tool and rockhammer the next time you explore such a wall to ensure you get whole specimens almost every time and make life wayyyy easier. (its one of my goto tools now) The matrix material/rhyolites can be mushy, grainy like sand, partially consolidated or fully hardened and compacted like solid stone but all are hydroscopic and affected by moisture. There are a few mines here where true hard rock mining is required to free those magical...mostly little but sometimes very big lumps from their multi-million year entombment underground.🤔 In terms of the differences, there are a few I've noted over the years that are repeatable but those differences often overlap other considerations making it somewhat confusing but after cutting hundreds and hundreds of thundereggs and dozens upon dozens of geodes what I've found are these little things: 1.shape of the silicated vug in the rhyolite, 2. proportions of rhyolite to silica and 3. if other arrangements of silica/calcite/zeolites form in the same vug or nothing at all. (ultimately, they're all just rocks and one could spend years arguing the merits of one point of view over another forever...even the experts will argue one or the other but not all will agree all the time) For me, to keep it simple I think this way...if there's more rhyolite than silica it's a thunderegg, if there's more silica than rhyolite then it's a geode. (geodes can have crystals (silica, calcite, zeolite etc) or be botryoidal chalcdony/agate or just an entirely open vug)🤷♂️😜😂 And CUTTING THUNDEREGGS....It has been my experience over the years of cutting hundreds and hundreds of eggs....that for best representation of the interior, I always cut them along the LONGEST SEAM around the egg. I mentioned it in my cutting little thundereggs video too! Anyway, thanks again sir for the adventure and sharing the goods. (think you'll find less fracturing of internal structure of the eggs when you cut some in the box!) Thanks again my friend for sharing with us all, hope you and yours stay healthy and sane. Talk again real soon~
Raw Dawg Pendants Ah man that’s sweet you got a slant lap! I saw one of them on agate enchantment, I bet it’s rad having descent dob sticks! Yeah mar mentioned that to me. Thank you dude, i can’t wait to see it hey. It’s a stunning piece of blue man! Hope you’re travelling well over there Jason!
“The more you learn, the more questions you have. And I recon that’s rad.” It is this insatiable and genuine curiosity that makes your hobby so enjoyable to witness. ♥️ P.s. and it’s also our calling as humans to spend our lives seeking and learning and growing. If we’re not living our lives this way, then we’re not really living. We’re just coasting along, waiting for death.
Tina H That’s exactly it Tina 😉 It’s curiosity that fuels wonder. And this planet has soooo many wonders in it. My grandad said I should always learn at least 1 new thing every new day. He’s so knowledgeable and yet he never finished 7th grade! The world is a brilliant teacher 😉
The way I see it is to me it does't matter what they are...they are all just gorgeous. And the one that broke off is just too beautiful. Thank you again for sharing.
How dam awesome is this I am sitting on the couch watching your video on the IPad while listening & watching all our Aussie talent rocking out from on "Music from the Home Front" on TV, This is an Anzac Day to remember. Keep Safe & Keep Well.
Silverback Ayyyyyye now that’s cool mate! We were out there on the drive way with the candles this morning. It’s always so Stirling isn’t it. It’s a very proud yet humbling time man. That last post just gets my head in to thinking of the soldiers like a trance. I hope you’re keeping well my mate! Have a great rest of the weekend!
We were out on the driveway in the morning as well as were some of the neighbours dotted up and down our street and just on que someone down the street played the last post. Definitely a stirring morning. I agree with many others that this should continue on Anzac Day every year for those who don't get to go to one of the dawn services
Currently Rockhounding Heyyyyyyyyyu dude! Super sorry for the mega late reply! Yeah we have a bunch of thundereggs in the are with different characteristics. So far other than these though, I’ve only ever found them tumbled or broken apart in the creek. Hope you’re keeping well mate!!!
Love the video, confusion and all. I am not even going to try and work out that one. I am sure there are plenty of far more experienced people out there who can give you a clear definition. Looks like you had a great day even with the rain. That's one for the memory bank. Keep Rocin
What a fun and exhausting rock hunt! Can’t wait for the creek and you chasing after Bennie again when all is well in the world. So can you tell us again what the difference is between a thunder egg and a geode🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣♥️♥️♥️♥️ as we say in the USA clear as mud♥️
When I was young and learning geometry in school, my teacher said, "A Square can be a Rectangle, but a Rectangle can not be a Square" and that messed me up for a minute until I got it. The whole Geode/Thunderegg dilemma is summed up the same way. Also...look at that adorable face. 00:01
Mychael Lee My mind went to that exact same geometric relationship!! I used to teach geometry in grad school, so that was a natural association for me. As soon as Jesse phrases it that way, it all made perfect sense.
Mychael Lee Duuuuuuude! Yes! I remember this rule about the square and rectangle! That actually is a really cool way of making sense of the thunder egg and geode rule. I like it! Cheers brother! Haha! Naw thanks mate, my mum always says that when I shave haha! “Mummmmmm stop it! You’re embarrassing me!” 😂🤣😂
Bountiful harvest of geodes/thunder eggs! I have two round and almost smooth " concretions " that one, my mother found in a creek about 50 years ago and I found one in the same area about 25 years ago. They are very heavy for their size, ( soft-ball size, about 3-5 pounds a piece ). I'm so afraid to cut them. I was told that if they are heavy, they are solid Chalcedony inside. Maybe one day I'll get my hubby to cut one of them and I hope we have a great surprise hidden inside. These were found in North Carolina, where mom was from. So happy to see you Maverick and of course Benny too! ☺️
lizzymoore54 Heyyyyy Lizzy! Ohhhh see I kinda wished I’d left a few un cut because it’s like having infinite possibilities inside haha. Those concretions you have there are special beyond what’s inside, but you never know, inside could add to their story 😉 Always good to see you Lizzy, much love from the boys and I to you and your hubby!
Amazing video man, hard to figure out but I definetly get it now, totally makes sense about thunder eggs and geodes. Thanks for helping me learn something today bud! Those crystals are seriously nuts! So amazing man and a blessing to be able to hunt such treasures!
Agate Dad Cheers brother! Man so so lucky to be able to hunt these ones dude. I’m learning a bunch from the comments as well. That’s why this group of people are just the best right!
Thank you brother, Wow those are all amazing, I have always wanted to find a patch like that. Most of the ones I found were already westher warn. Those all made my day. Have a good day brother and may God keep you safe and finding those amazing rocks to😉
Justine Forlong Ah thank you Justine, I believe it must be the lighting 😆 I’ve been growing my winter layer in preparation for the cold and I can tell you, this lockdown diet is terrible for the figure haha!
Hey Guys, well done on the trecking in that wild piece of oz, but well worth the effort I reckon..I asked a guy at Mt Hay the difference between Geodes and TE's once, and he gave me a dry smile and said something like, "same animal different upbringing".. So now a have a lovely little collection of ryolite w/- chalcedony infilled geode agatty thingamabobs!! Good episode mate..Stay safe and well down there.
Wayneo's World Heyyyy Wayneo mate! Man I like that “same animal, different upbringing”.thats actually a really cool and easier way to look at it hey. Oh Mt Hay, that’s meant to have beauties there! Definitely on the “one day” list man. I hope you’re keeping well up there mate, and have a great rest of the weekend. 👍👍👍
my Grandpa once told me that Thunder eggs collapse and then heal from the collapse and become solid. I never learned more than that. Lol that spot it awesome! The geodes here are abundant like that, practically digging themselves XD awesome video!
Wherewill mahtajutakeyou Heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy brother! Sorry I’m late getting to the replies this video 🤦♂️ I’ve actually learnt even more after posting this video from comments like what your grandad taught you. But yeah, these things were definitely practically digging themselves haha! Keep well my brother!
Ah so loved this! What gorgeous crystals!! They sure are magnificent :) You are such an inspiration. Thank you for taking us along on your adventure and sharing your learning and with us. Hope you and your family are well! :) LeeAnn
Southern Ontario Sasquatch LeeAnn!!!! I finally know you’re name! Yay! Now I don’t have to call you SOS 🤣 Thank you so much for coming along, anything beautiful is wasted if it isn’t shared I reckon 😉😁 I hope you and yours are keeping well over there my friend!
Thank you for the video.. you always make me smile. And smiles are sorely needed now. As for the name of the stones.. just go with Thunder Ge Eggs. Lol
Great video. I like the tip about cutting across the ridges, I'll try that next time I buy a batch of geodes. You are so blessed to have a spot to go hunting near you. You mentioned cracking a lot of those with the pick. Maybe bring a second short-handled pick and / or a 2-3 ft crow bar. Those are 2 of my favorite rock hounding tools
Oak Knob Rocks Heyyyy mate! So sorry for the late response. Oh that sounds like a good idea with those two tools. Benny and I were a bit eager I think haha! We noticed the other guy digging hard and we just copied, but we failed to notice how gentle he dug when he was on one haha! Classic rookie digging 🤣 But yeah so so blessed to have been shown such a treasured place. Just grateful for the experience and the mate ship. I hope you and everything on the farm is going well my friend. 👍👍👍 I ended up not figuring out anything to play on guitar (I chickened our basically) haha! Maybe one day though still think it was a great idea. Talk soon mate. Take care 😊
@@Rookie_Rockounding ok... I doubled down on the tune... I played one on piano (keyboard) and that's not even my preferred instrument :) Don't make me break out the kazoo. I jest, but... I would also love you to join. This WAY out of my comfort zone, too. I haven't played guitar in public in 20 years.....
Thank you dude!!!! I hope you’re keeping well over there mate. I thought of you yesterday, my mum got my nanas rock collection out and there was a sweet fossilised clam in there!? I don’t know where they got it from but I was like, oh I gotta tell mamlambo!
Hiya mate, I have to say..... Great job on the polishing. It looked like you had a awesome time finding them. That's what really counts in my book. Great video, I hope you have a great blessed day. Cheers!
You have no idea how lucky you are to find Thunder Eggs and Geodes casually hanging out of a hill side. I really don't think there is any of either in Southern Tasmania. Great day fossicking in NSW you got some wonderful things. Loving those Thunder Eggs. I bought one magic geode this outside and hundreds of Crystals but the other two are very heavy. New subscriber can't wait to see more videos
Its always a pleasure to watch your videos and this one was an absolute pleasure, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us. I did go out into the woods for an hour or so today to make a tribute video for my Mom , She was gravely injured in an accident a few days ago and sadly we lost her yesterday . I'm planning on uploading my video later today but I haven't got a title for it as of yet . Stay safe and healthy my friend and thank you for this wonderful uplifting video , I needed this today . Lloyd.
Oh god Lloyd. No. Man. I can’t think of how that loss must feel. I’ve lost my father but it wasn’t sudden. And every loss is unique. And as much as I say that I truely am sorry, just genuinely sorry, I know it doesn’t quite help. I feel for you though Lloyd. For you and your mother. And your family and her loved ones. I just feel for you guys. I’m so sorry. I wish I could show just how sorry I am for your loss. I stand with you man. Beside you even over here. I stand with you. Grief is something I’ve known and it’s something that moves in, and never moves out. But you get used to its presence. Hold fast my friend. And know I’m here if you need to talk. Sending love and thoughts of peace for you my mate.
@@Rookie_Rockounding thank you for this wonderful heartfelt comment , I'm saddened to hear about you losing you Dad and I hope your Dad knew what an amazing and caring Son he has in you my friend from afar . In just the past few years I've had to say goodbye to one of my Sons ( Andrew) , my Dad and now my Mom . Thank you again for such a caring sincere comment and your friendship. Lloyd.
highenergyog Oh thank you Lloyd, I was very lucky to have a father who was caring and forever proud and supportive hey. Man the losses you’ve encountered have been massive. I hope you’re able to find peace with the loss of their presence in the presence of the memories. It’s not easy but sometimes it’s all we’ve got brother. Thinking of you my friend.
Gwynn Farrell Okay now on that, on that I can definitively agree 😁👌 they are beautiful and even more so in real life. Have a great weekend my friend!!!
Nice haul mate!! They turned out great! Can't wait for this covid to be over already!!! I have a spot in NSW, that you can just walk along picking up thunder eggs and broken ones everywhere with agate, druzy, chalcedony showing 😜. I was foaming at the mouth. Can't wait to get back there.
Colin Merriman Heyyyyyy mate! Oh man I so can’t wait either. NSW has the best places to find these and other treasures hey. We’ll have to meet up one day to hound!
Hi Rookie, that was fun and SeaJay says yes the rule is correct "a thunderegg can be a geode but a geode cannot be a Thunderegg". If you would like an Oregon Thunderegg we will send you 1 uncut and 1 cut and polished, just send us an email (in the description of all our videos) we are blessed to have many. Great and fun video!
Agate Enchantment & Rock Wizardry Heyyyyyyyyuuu guys!!!!! Sorry for the late response! I’m late getting to the reply’s. Oh thank you guys but I couldn’t ask you to do that! You’re toooooooo kind. That’s what I love about both of you, just good good people!
@@Rookie_Rockounding thank you and we appreciate you too. You've got so many subscriber's it's a wonder you can get to all your mail. We both admire you & would love to send you a gift but it's all good. The joy in life comes from giving and we know how hard the work is to keep up a normal life...lol... then be a rockhound and on top of that run a UA-cam channel. It's a wonder you have any time to yourself at all. Blessings to you and stay healthy my friend!
Another great video really nice specimens you have found they are gorgeous . I have found thunder eggs where it looks like the chalcedony/silica solution slowly evaporated leaving a small hole where the quartz crystals can grow just a bit but still inside a solid chalcedony shell .
JonKinchIsLegit Hey Jon, yeah! I’ve found those ones too and I think it’s the ones with the little pockets but with lots of chalcedony that challenge the rules in my brain haha! Damn rules, each ones beautiful though, whatever they’re called haha!
Yay Frookie, so good to see you and your buds. So, they are both mostly round rocks with pretty things on the inside. That’s as far I go with it 😉 Nice job on the polishing, they looked great. Too bad some of them were cracking and splitting. Stay safe my friend. P.S. I’m enjoying watching The Finders. Seeing many different parts of the country and some great videos by fellow rockhounders. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
betojdesigns Heyyyyyyy! Sorry for the late reply my friend! Thank you! Oh I’m so glad that the finders has helped so many people find and be found. There’s so much to see out there it’d be a shame to not have them seen 😉 I hope you have a great rest of the week betojdesigns!!!!!! 👍👍👍
So thundereggs are a type of geode (sometimes filled geode) with chalcedony in rhyolitic volcanic ash, and geodes are any hollow stone with crystals inside. Conclusion: All thunder eggs are geodes or filled geodes, but not all geodes are thunder eggs.
Good go. Geode are hollow , with crystals, and at times the chalcedony or agate out to the edges, the geodes sometimes have weathered out of the host rock and clay to. But it just fun looking for rocks anyway.
I love geodes! Where I collect in Indiana they are formed in sedimentary rock and can be any shape. Geodes are best when very light. It was great when you have someone to give you a place to go that has great stuff.
your gonna need a bigger rucksack for the geodes and thunder eggs :0) being honest I thought they was different too, everyday day is a learning day :0) great finds and I love the one at 8.04 and 10.16 :0) really great vid as you never know whats inside until you cut them open :0) looking forward to the next adventure :0)
Great finds, cutting, and polishing! I've recently got a source in southern Indiana for geodes. How about a polishing video in the near future? Keep the videos coming!
My sister and I love picking up the geodes. We get them in Westport Washington. Our favorite shopping stop there, it's called Granny Hale's. We love there fudge. "The Geodes" there are the suprise, We've learned how to slowly open them. Using a flashlight to see how clear they might be after cleaning all the dirt off with an icepick. Thank you showing your finds.
Maybe the reason these classifications are wrought with confusion is because the classification of a single specimen could change over time - today, it’s a geode. In a million years, it may become a thunder egg. For math enthusiasts: There is some lesson in here about classical Set Theory (think Venn diagram) being inadequate to describe this relationship because of the point-in-time factor, but I’m nearly 30 years out of grad school now, so I’ll need someone else with a more recent degree to explain if Fuzzy Set Theory is necessary to iron out this conundrum. 🤔
I just found your channel, I'm from Washington State in the US but I appreciate the rough (or raw...??) Close ups and the way you talk about the different stones and minerals from formation all the way through to polishing. My kids even watch with me! Thanks for the content! :)
Awesome adventure sweet honey hole that sure is great that have a friend to take you to his spot you sure getting good at polishing awesome my friend it is a good question I have always taken it geodes are hollow and have crystals of quartz, Crystals but who really knows awesome adventure thank you for sharing
Omigosh, Rookie, that is AMAZING! So, so beautiful - what an incredible place, and incredible finds. Also, I really like your beard trim - it shows more of your beautiful face.
KatyDid Nawww schucks thanks Kate 🤪 Yeah that place is insain just how many are on that hillside. It’s hard knowing what’s in them but I reckon it was majority of them that were really nice inside. 😉👍
@@Rookie_Rockounding I understand that even Oregon thundereggs are sometimes very boring inside. But with all the eggs available, you were sure to get some winners! And you DID! The weather is springy and gorgeous here (I assume it's autumn there), and I'm a bit giddy from the warm weather and sunshine. Can you imagine A GIDDY Kate? 😂
Hahaha! A giddy Kate, is there any other kind of Kate 🤪🤪🤪😆 Yeah it’s autumn here, that’s my fav season I reckon. And then winter is here which is probably more like your spring. It’s not very cold in Queensland.
Geode is a host rock with a hollow hole inside and crystals. Thunder rock eggs are solid with the same crystal or chalcedony inside, just in a solid form..
Love them both, have a few thundereggs that are the combo, I love natural crystals but to me a thunderegg is more beautiful and each one has it own unique color and banding . Vary cool that you were able to go out to an area where they are so prolific.
Damn my man where is the beard 😂❤️ i hope you enjoyed trying new things such as geodes hunting 😍😍 am sure u did and those are some good geodes 😭👌🏻 keep it up man
Nikito Vitch Hey Nikito!!! Haha! Yeah the beard is on its way back. Just needed a fresh start 🤪 We definitely did have a great time doing something different. Such a cool experience, so lucky 😉👍👍👍
Hi there! Valerie here from the Hunter Valley. At 66 I finally have my first Lortone double tumbler thanks to my daughters monetary birthday gifts in February. Then the covid 19 hit and apart from 2 visits to the Wattagans (now closed) I have been stuck at home watching every video on rockhounding there is. Thanks to Katydid & Quest for Details who have tons of open space in America to keep a distance I have had new ones to watch (not that I'll ever go there! LOL Not my cup of tea & a bit far). I watched the video with you and Rhonda on her property and wondering whether I could purchase enough Jasper pieces to tumble in both barrels? Seeing as I cannot get out & about at present. Can't wait until we can all get out & go rockhounding and you have some new great videos to present to all us lapidary and geology enthusiasts. Regards and keep well in this time, Yours "The Poetic Rowan" (I also love creative writing.) Valerie
LUCKY??? More like winning the lottery! How wonderful for you guys!! I've found thundereggs, here in Oregon. Sliced one open to find a green opal butterfly. Yep! Thanks for sharing! Also, thanks for pronouncing Oregon the 'right' way. 😉
Girlfriend and I just spent the last 2 weekends looking for thunder eggs here in eastern Oregon...Succor creek area...and it was frustrating. We got a few pieces that were already broken, but most of the solid ones we found had very little agatey goodness inside...lol. I did find one rugby ball sized one that is oozing agate and chalcedony that is awesome...but I wont know the inside until I rent the concrete cutter like you guys did in a video.
@@michaelvandyke we were trying to find where to dig. Looking for signs of others digging but did not come across any obvious spots. We were either in the wrong area or people were really good at filling their holes...lol.
ward walker Yeah, the creeks tend do damage them a bit, but if you’re finding them in the creek, it means they’re somewhere near, and the banks or feeder creeks are a great way to find the source. Also I’d suggest if you can, see if there’s a lapidary club near by, they may have a big saw that they can cut the big guy on for a small fee. It’s usually pretty cheap and they are super helpful with identifying what’s inside 😉
@@Rookie_Rockounding you will never guess, but I just landed a trade with a local, I'm getting a 24 inch rock saw...he's getting $900 worth of lawn care!
Aren’t thunder eggs are nodules that formed, then cracked allowing mineralization after, like a two phase process. Maybe taking millions of years between each phase. Geodes are gas bubbles that mineralized. Single phase process. Either way I love them all, stay safe.
GrassGuy 420 Thank you for this extra bit of detail. So still, the thunder egg started out as a geode, right? The geode ends after that single- stage process. But if the geode fills in, gets fissures, and those fissures fill in, it becomes a thunder egg?
GrassGuy 420 Hey bud! Man! Noiccccce! That makes it make way more sense! Thank you Grassguy! This is why I liked that I couldn’t quite comprehend it, cause then I knew others would come and help me learn. I didn’t know that about the 2 phase process with the thunder eggs so it’s really helped. Thanks again mate!
I was told, "just feel the weight!" Heck, I couldn't feel the diff at all > I have not handled that many but, basically I don't know lol. Havagudun and when you find a definitive answer let us know. Stay safe,
E. D. Law Hahaha! I couldn’t tel the difference either. But I reckon the bigger they get the easier they become to differentiate that weight. I’m thinking. Haha. These ones were tiny ones.
A day late but worth the wait! Jesse!!! That was awesome possum dude! Holy mountain of Thunder eggs. My mouth was to the floor😮 SO MANY...oh man that must've been hard picking what to bring home. Since you can't see inside...but that's part of the thrill with thundereggs eh! What beauties m8. And you explained geode thundereggs pretty well actually. They are simply a geode, that would have been a thunderegg if it filled the void completely, but because it didn't, it's a geode. That's why they say thunder eggs can be geodes. It just confuses people because really it's just a geode if it's Hollow still. But because thundereggs are solid all the way through to be considered a thunderegg, that is why geodes cannot be a thunderegg. Just don't overthink it... if it's Hollow it's a geode if it's not it's a thunderegg. I actually have a thunderegg that I'm going to be sending to you from Richardson's Ranch. I also have Raw Dawgs gift for you too. I will be mailing that soon. I have sm pieces for Benny and Pauly too😁 So email me your address dude!😎🐾 And Holy crap you shaved bro! Almost didn't recognize ya haha! Just kidding😄👍 Can't wait to see how the tumble came out! Taking out my chrysoprase today after the second week now in coarse. I hope I didn't tumble all the blue away in my blue Agate either. Cross your fingers! 🤞 Take care out there and hug your family tight every night. Talk to you soon🐾
Marlaina Atkins Hey hey Marrrrr! I think how you described it is where my brain actually understand now. I gave it so so soooooo much thought 🤪🤪🤪 way too much thought haha. Ohhh no no! I couldn’t accept anything else from you until I tray the favour. I’m actually going to be sending people their stuff after this Friday, I’ll be boxing them up Friday and sending them when I can get to the post office next. I can’t wait to send you all the stuff. It’s been so long that I still haven’t sent Thirst his package yet from OVER A YEAR 😳🤭🥺 Worrrrrrrrrst friend ever! But hopefully what’s inside will make up for it a bit. Haha. I will be emailing too. This video d last week took it outta me. We had birthdays and stuff so I’ve been busy faced. But yes! Will email you super soon!
Marlaina Atkins Oh and sweeeeeet! 2 weeks in course. This tumble is the longest that I’ve ever done. The rocks are tiny haha! Kidding. Sending love from our family to yours 😉
Holy smokes mate!!..I thought you were a crack head crawling around on the streets of Detroit grabbing up them thunder eggs on that hill!!..lol!!..hellz yah I would be!!..what an amazing opportunity to have!!..like Xmas, new years and a birthday all in one!..I call tell your a troop cuz most ppl pack up when it rains..good job guys!!.I love the end of the show.great rocks m8t!!
Wil Bostwick Oh man hahaha! You know it! A rock addict to the core 🤣 Definitely so so lucky to be invited to hound this stuff. Oh and honestly, that rain was so uncomfortable but we couldn’t walk away, too much action 😉😉😉
Thanks Scottish Girl, yeah it pretty much was mud that day but they form in Rhyolite. I think the mud is like decomposed Rhyolite maybe? I’m not sure haha. But yeah, the host rock is Rhyolite. 😉
I once asked a zookeeper what the difference was between a reindeer and caribou. He said one started with a R and the other started with a C. For all practical purposes I wonder if it's similar with thunder eggs and geodes.
@@Rookie_Rockounding you bet mate I'm in Illinois Chicago find some geodes and crystal from Arkansas and jasper from the crater of diamonds but the calcidny and agates you find are amazing 👏
I remember finding my first geode in warm springs, Oregon. My auntie had me climb up a tiny mountain side little cave to take a picture once I made it to the top I looked on the ground making sure there's weren't any snakes and I saw something sparkle on the ground it was almost whole just a little part missing and the inside was peachy pink crystals and the outside looked sorta like a regular orange rock just bumpy. Being 7-8 years old I couldn't wait to show my neighbor friends, they wanted a piece of it so my kindhearted kid self took a hammer to it and destroyed it 😢😭 well you live and you learn lol
Hotdog hotdog Hotdiggity dog Ohhhhhh but how awesome of a memory is that! And I’m sure the rock was probably happy to bring even more people joy! It sounded like a beauty though! 😉👍
Just casually out in the middle of the jungle digging for thundereggs and geodes! What an opportunity. Looked like you were mostly digging with pick-axe, is that right? I've got a little trip planned myself for going after something called dryhead agate and I think it is going to be similar to this, but only in a desert.... Take care Rookie!
Agate Angler Hey dude, yeah we bought new ones cause we’ve never used them before haha. Oh dude now that sounds rad! Hopefully we all can get out there soon mate 👍👍👍
Lithopysae consist of nodules. When the nodule is formed in a rhyolitic lava flow then it is called a thunderegg. If the thunderegg has a void, or hollow cavity, it is called a geode. A nodule can be a thunderegg, a sphereulite, and a geode all, none, or some. It is typical to open them by cutting across the flow bands, but not always. From Luna county, Thunderegg HQ
I don't think you're as confused as you think you are.... Thunder eggs are angular, whereas vesicles/nodules are typically spheroidal. That's because vesicles are typically captured bubbles, whereas thundere ggs typically occupy openings created at a bit more depth by noncoaxial shear (kind of like en echelon fractures, but smaller scale). The varying permeability of the rhyolite acts as a valve system, allowing more fluid to permeate in less porous rock (because there is less space between grains to occupy, so higher pressure). In some instances, where the rhyolite is very porous, only the initial influx of fluid stays in the hollow, and the remaining moisture is reabsorbed by the porous rock, leaving crystals like you're finding here. If it's less porous, and if there is a continued phase of fluid influx, it will fill the void entirely. Because of this higher speed of deposition, you very rarely see banded thunder eggs, mostly waterline. This "soaking" method of deposition creates the shell of silicified rhyolite surrounding the core, hence the shape of the raw eggs, and also this is the reason you find the cores (since purer silica is more durable than silicified rhyolite). That's also why you find so many eggs in one area when you find them, they are found where an entire rhyolite volcano has slumped on one flank (that noncoaxial shear). SO: A geode HAS to be - A semi-spheroidal to spheroidal cavity lined with minerals. Can be in pretty much any kind of rock. If it's long and narrow, lining but not filling a fracture it's a vug. A Thunder egg HAS to be - An angular shear formation, partially or completely filled with minerals. Typically only in rhyolite or andesite (because those are lavas capable of building a slope that will generate noncoaxial shear, basalt builds a slope whose stress is nearly vertical). The thunder egg has filled comparatively more quickly than a vesicle that hosts an agate nodules, and has altered the surrounding rock to create it's spheroidal shell around the fracture (ie the process has added to the rock). At most, you might notice some leaching surrounding vesicular nodules (ie the rock has lost something in the process of filling the void). So if in the process of formation the thunder egg isn't filled with minerals, it fits the description of a geode, while still falling in the category of Thunder Egg. Easy peasy, right? LOL!
Thirst Fast No no no, well, kinda but I thinnnnnnk I may have understood that. Dude I love how it’s just soaked into your brain, all this rock knowledge. And I’m like... “okay, so ones hollow, and ones not... * clears throat * I think...” hahahahaha! Man I was thinking of you as I filmed this this afternoon. That last bit. I was like, if this isn’t the equivalent to the Batman signal in the sky to Thirst, than I don’t know what is. Man I’m gonna reread that again. And again I am sure of it. And hopefully get my big brain on 😉 But seriously Adam. I love this. This always makes me feel like I’ve made a connection with you and that to me makes me so damn happy. Have a rad weekend brother. Will be talking to you soon hopefully man! Promise!
Hey Matt, I haven’t found them to wear out, but it’s funny you ask, at some points they seem to not work as well, and because I’ve used the brick on the tile saw, I tried it on the pad. Just a quick rub sort of thing and I’m not sure if I was imagining it but I think it made a difference. I think. Haha. But man, good eye mate. 👍👌
I keep making comments but they don't stay on here. Yes it's me, this is what I look like according to the interpol database. A rock is a rock, a round rock is a bubble or river stone, whole when cut is two parts and one part is half, but the two halves won't make a hole, so where is the hole, you can't have half a hole yet you cut a hole in half ergo you do have half a hole, unless there is no hole then you have half of not a hole, are you still with me on this? Ok so a round rock with a hole is not the same as a round hole with a rock, but a round hole in a rock can be seen though whereas a round hole can be looked in but not through. So lets recap, round is a bubble or river rock which may holes that you can see but they can't dig but some you can see through. Great, thanks jesse, that is far more understandable now. Great work as usual.
The hollow, crystal-filled rocks you have are teggs that also happen to be geodes. That's consistent with what you were first thinking. I would completely ignore that saying from Oregon. It's half wrong and very confusing because it gets you thinking about teggs and geodes in the wrong way. The easiest way to think of them is to focus on their definitions. A tegg is a specific type of rock, whereas a geode can be any type of rock that has a hollow cavity lined with crystals. Septarians are a good example of another type of rock that can also be a geode. This is consistent with what Paul Colburn believed. He wrote a good book on how he thought teggs form. He spent decades digging teggs from dozens of locations throughout the western US. It's a good read with lots of pictures. His nickname was "The Geode Kid," it was given to him by other rockhounds while he was digging at the Hauser Geode Beds in California. The geodes from there are teggs. At one point in the video you were wondering how a tegg becomes a geode instead of having a solid chalcedony center. There's always a source of water that carries silica into the teggs (river, lake, rain, floods, hydrothermal activity, etc.) If the water source is consistent enough then the tegg can fill completely with chalcedony. Fluctuations from wet to dry can cause the chalcedony to form waterlines or fortification/banding. However, if the water source gets cut off completely then the last of the water-silica solution to enter the tegg will form quartz crystals instead of chalcedony. Nothing else will enter the tegg because there's no more water so you end up with a geode. I appreciate you're videos and hope you keep making more. You have a lot of enthusiasm for what you do. Lol, I loved how you let out a frightened shout when one of the geodes you were holding fell out of your hand. It shows that you really carry about those rocks!
I call thunder eggs *nodes*. All geodes though.. right? Older are solid? More knowledge makes for more questions... what did u soak them in and how long did the soak take? Great video.
Dawn Morning Yeah that’s exactly it, that’s why I love learning with these beauties, I always end up wanting to know more 😆 So I soaked them in oxalic acid, it’s called Iron Out, in America and Rust and Stain Cleaner over here in Aus. I soaked these for about a day but I think I may have gotten away with a little bit less time. If they’re done in a clear container you can check on them periodically to see when you’d like to take them out. I’m still learning the acid side of things. I hope that helps Dawn 😁👍
@@Rookie_Rockounding have bar keepers friend and will see if it does anything. Will look for rust out next time. I sort my geodes by *shakers* and non. Always a mystery inside. Happy hounding.
Thunder eggs have filled in with the crystals... geodes haven’t filled in yet, there is still open space in geodes... given the right conditions and enough time the crystals will continue to grow eventually taking up all the space and growing together creating the solid interior of the thunder egg.
This one popped my brain a little bit haha! But I hope it didn’t confuse anyone more than before. Basically, Thunder eggs can be geodes, geodes can’t be thunder eggs. That’s as far as I got in my learning 😆
Buuuuuuuut! If you have any info that may help it make more sense, please let me know. Trust me to take something simple and make it confusing hahaha!
Have a brilliant couple of weeks everyone and I’ll see you guys next vid with a long overdue tumble video 😉
I finally got a slant lapidary machine, and ground down finger tips lol. Getting aluminum dob sticks and already have wax and a warmer. Mar should have your royal blue to ya soon. I experimented with making rods and they turned out great. Stay safe and rock on!!!
Here’s my take on it:
Every thunder egg starts out ‘life’ as a geode. If the geode’s hollow center fills in completely with silicates, it becomes reclassified as a thunder egg.
So when you’re collecting the lovely round rocks and they’re intact, they can be called geodes with certainty. But it’s not until you cut them open and see they are solid geodes that you can call them thunder eggs.
One could, of course, shake an uncut geode and determine if it’s just a geode by listening for particles rattling around in side. But if you hear nothing moving around, only a saw or hammer will reveal which one it is.
All thunder eggs are geodes or filled geodes, but not all geodes are thunder eggs.
Ah Brother, thank you so much for the magnificent eye "rockcandy" in the morning to get me going on a really rainy day here.👍 Absolutely love your enthusiasm on that super steep slope in the rain digging like a crazy man for precious little chunks of lovely mother earth!😁 Looked like an awesome day to get out and dig your and Benny's hearts out, thanks for sharing the adventure with us all! Awesome, awesome, awesome experience cutting em on the saw!!! And please note, thundereggs can be and are somewhat fragile little chunks of goodness and any chance they have for the "CAP" to pop off it will. After seeing thousands upon thousands you'll start to note that each thundergg has a dimple at one end and a pimple at the other. (this also helps identify what angle to cut but more about that later)🤦♂️ The geologic formation the eggs/geodes were in seemed fairly consolidated at that first wall but still easy to pry em out due to all the moisture in the ground. I would honestly recommend a "Gad pry bar" tool and rockhammer the next time you explore such a wall to ensure you get whole specimens almost every time and make life wayyyy easier. (its one of my goto tools now) The matrix material/rhyolites can be mushy, grainy like sand, partially consolidated or fully hardened and compacted like solid stone but all are hydroscopic and affected by moisture. There are a few mines here where true hard rock mining is required to free those magical...mostly little but sometimes very big lumps from their multi-million year entombment underground.🤔 In terms of the differences, there are a few I've noted over the years that are repeatable but those differences often overlap other considerations making it somewhat confusing but after cutting hundreds and hundreds of thundereggs and dozens upon dozens of geodes what I've found are these little things: 1.shape of the silicated vug in the rhyolite, 2. proportions of rhyolite to silica and 3. if other arrangements of silica/calcite/zeolites form in the same vug or nothing at all. (ultimately, they're all just rocks and one could spend years arguing the merits of one point of view over another forever...even the experts will argue one or the other but not all will agree all the time) For me, to keep it simple I think this way...if there's more rhyolite than silica it's a thunderegg, if there's more silica than rhyolite then it's a geode. (geodes can have crystals (silica, calcite, zeolite etc) or be botryoidal chalcdony/agate or just an entirely open vug)🤷♂️😜😂 And CUTTING THUNDEREGGS....It has been my experience over the years of cutting hundreds and hundreds of eggs....that for best representation of the interior, I always cut them along the LONGEST SEAM around the egg. I mentioned it in my cutting little thundereggs video too! Anyway, thanks again sir for the adventure and sharing the goods. (think you'll find less fracturing of internal structure of the eggs when you cut some in the box!) Thanks again my friend for sharing with us all, hope you and yours stay healthy and sane. Talk again real soon~
Raw Dawg Pendants
Ah man that’s sweet you got a slant lap! I saw one of them on agate enchantment, I bet it’s rad having descent dob sticks!
Yeah mar mentioned that to me. Thank you dude, i can’t wait to see it hey. It’s a stunning piece of blue man!
Hope you’re travelling well over there Jason!
“The more you learn, the more questions you have. And I recon that’s rad.”
It is this insatiable and genuine curiosity that makes your hobby so enjoyable to witness. ♥️
P.s. and it’s also our calling as humans to spend our lives seeking and learning and growing. If we’re not living our lives this way, then we’re not really living. We’re just coasting along, waiting for death.
Tina H i agree with u on this one 😍👌🏻👌🏻
Tina H
That’s exactly it Tina 😉
It’s curiosity that fuels wonder. And this planet has soooo many wonders in it. My grandad said I should always learn at least 1 new thing every new day. He’s so knowledgeable and yet he never finished 7th grade! The world is a brilliant teacher 😉
Waiting waiting waiting....
Good works on both things and I am very happy to with your work.
The way I see it is to me it does't matter what they are...they are all just gorgeous. And the one that broke off is just too beautiful. Thank you again for sharing.
Darlene Bromberger
I am right there with you Darlene 😉 doesn’t matter what they’re called really, they’re each one unique and beautiful 😁
How dam awesome is this I am sitting on the couch watching your video on the IPad while listening & watching all our Aussie talent rocking out from on "Music from the Home Front" on TV, This is an Anzac Day to remember. Keep Safe & Keep Well.
Silverback
Ayyyyyye now that’s cool mate! We were out there on the drive way with the candles this morning. It’s always so Stirling isn’t it. It’s a very proud yet humbling time man. That last post just gets my head in to thinking of the soldiers like a trance.
I hope you’re keeping well my mate! Have a great rest of the weekend!
We were out on the driveway in the morning as well as were some of the neighbours dotted up and down our street and just on que someone down the street played the last post. Definitely a stirring morning.
I agree with many others that this should continue on Anzac Day every year for those who don't get to go to one of the dawn services
Silverback
I have to agree hey, it’s a great way to show solidarity and remembrance. I love aussies.
Very cool! Love the wolf/dog face in the last one at 10.58 minutes 😁
Angela Jellick
Oh yeah, I see what you’re talking about. I love knowing what others see in the rocks 😁
Very cool, I didn't know you had Thundereggs down there. We have them all over the NW United States. You are correct about our saying out here.
Currently Rockhounding
Heyyyyyyyyyu dude! Super sorry for the mega late reply!
Yeah we have a bunch of thundereggs in the are with different characteristics. So far other than these though, I’ve only ever found them tumbled or broken apart in the creek.
Hope you’re keeping well mate!!!
Love the video, confusion and all. I am not even going to try and work out that one. I am sure there are plenty of far more experienced people out there who can give you a clear definition. Looks like you had a great day even with the rain. That's one for the memory bank.
Keep Rocin
Geode or thunder egg, don’t care. They are all interesting to look at. Thanks for sharing.
Lucky Charms
Hahaha! Yeah well said Lucky Charms 😉👌
What a fun and exhausting rock hunt! Can’t wait for the creek and you chasing after Bennie again when all is well in the world. So can you tell us again what the difference is between a thunder egg and a geode🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣♥️♥️♥️♥️ as we say in the USA clear as mud♥️
Very cool, I used to have a neighbor down the road aways that had 2 dump truck loads of almost football size geodes.👍✌
Michael Robertson
Oh my goodness dude!!!!!! That sounds awesome!
When I was young and learning geometry in school, my teacher said, "A Square can be a Rectangle, but a Rectangle can not be a Square" and that messed me up for a minute until I got it. The whole Geode/Thunderegg dilemma is summed up the same way.
Also...look at that adorable face. 00:01
Mychael Lee My mind went to that exact same geometric relationship!! I used to teach geometry in grad school, so that was a natural association for me. As soon as Jesse phrases it that way, it all made perfect sense.
Mychael Lee
Duuuuuuude! Yes! I remember this rule about the square and rectangle! That actually is a really cool way of making sense of the thunder egg and geode rule. I like it! Cheers brother!
Haha! Naw thanks mate, my mum always says that when I shave haha! “Mummmmmm stop it! You’re embarrassing me!” 😂🤣😂
Bountiful harvest of geodes/thunder eggs! I have two round and almost smooth " concretions " that one, my mother found in a creek about 50 years ago and I found one in the same area about 25 years ago. They are very heavy for their size, ( soft-ball size, about 3-5 pounds a piece ). I'm so afraid to cut them. I was told that if they are heavy, they are solid Chalcedony inside. Maybe one day I'll get my hubby to cut one of them and I hope we have a great surprise hidden inside. These were found in North Carolina, where mom was from. So happy to see you Maverick and of course Benny too! ☺️
lizzymoore54
Heyyyyy Lizzy! Ohhhh see I kinda wished I’d left a few un cut because it’s like having infinite possibilities inside haha. Those concretions you have there are special beyond what’s inside, but you never know, inside could add to their story 😉
Always good to see you Lizzy, much love from the boys and I to you and your hubby!
Rookie Rockhounding, you too my friend. ☺️
Amazing video man, hard to figure out but I definetly get it now, totally makes sense about thunder eggs and geodes. Thanks for helping me learn something today bud! Those crystals are seriously nuts! So amazing man and a blessing to be able to hunt such treasures!
Agate Dad
Cheers brother! Man so so lucky to be able to hunt these ones dude. I’m learning a bunch from the comments as well. That’s why this group of people are just the best right!
@@Rookie_Rockounding absolutely, the rockhounding community is full of amazing supporters who are so smart and willing to share that knowledge!
Thank you brother,
Wow those are all amazing, I have always wanted to find a patch like that. Most of the ones I found were already westher warn. Those all made my day.
Have a good day brother and may God keep you safe and finding those amazing rocks to😉
YehoshuaBenTorah
Thank you so much my friend, I’m glad you enjoyed them brother and I wish the same for you mate. Keep well good sir 👍
Gorgeous specimens!
Tracy Branham
Thanks Tracy! We’re very fortunate 😉
These are such beautiful finds!
Niiice....love geodes. It's the mystery of opening them to see what beauty is inside.
Karen Sparozvich
Oh yeah, it’s like little mineral presents 😉😆
Another great video! When you dropped that geode haha anywho stay safe and much love from Colorado!
Dan Brokke
Thank you mate! I’m stoked you enjoyed it brother, haha yeah butter fingers 😆
Great video, as always. Thanks for sharing your adventures 😀
You're looking very fit. Must be all that hiking while rockhounding.
Justine Forlong
Ah thank you Justine, I believe it must be the lighting 😆 I’ve been growing my winter layer in preparation for the cold and I can tell you, this lockdown diet is terrible for the figure haha!
Hey Guys, well done on the trecking in that wild piece of oz, but well worth the effort I reckon..I asked a guy at Mt Hay the difference between Geodes and TE's once, and he gave me a dry smile and said something like, "same animal different upbringing".. So now a have a lovely little collection of ryolite w/- chalcedony infilled geode agatty thingamabobs!! Good episode mate..Stay safe and well down there.
Wayneo's World
Heyyyy Wayneo mate! Man I like that “same animal, different upbringing”.thats actually a really cool and easier way to look at it hey.
Oh Mt Hay, that’s meant to have beauties there! Definitely on the “one day” list man.
I hope you’re keeping well up there mate, and have a great rest of the weekend. 👍👍👍
my Grandpa once told me that Thunder eggs collapse and then heal from the collapse and become solid. I never learned more than that. Lol that spot it awesome! The geodes here are abundant like that, practically digging themselves XD awesome video!
Wherewill mahtajutakeyou Grandpas are smart. I like his explanation. ♥️
Wherewill mahtajutakeyou
Heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy brother! Sorry I’m late getting to the replies this video 🤦♂️
I’ve actually learnt even more after posting this video from comments like what your grandad taught you. But yeah, these things were definitely practically digging themselves haha! Keep well my brother!
Ah so loved this! What gorgeous crystals!! They sure are magnificent :) You are such an inspiration. Thank you for taking us along on your adventure and sharing your learning and with us. Hope you and your family are well! :) LeeAnn
Southern Ontario Sasquatch
LeeAnn!!!! I finally know you’re name! Yay! Now I don’t have to call you SOS 🤣
Thank you so much for coming along, anything beautiful is wasted if it isn’t shared I reckon 😉😁
I hope you and yours are keeping well over there my friend!
Thank you for the video.. you always make me smile. And smiles are sorely needed now. As for the name of the stones.. just go with Thunder Ge Eggs. Lol
Teresa Salmon
Oh, see, now that just makes me smile 😊
Thank you Teresa.
Hey I like that, Thunder Geggs 😆
Great video. I like the tip about cutting across the ridges, I'll try that next time I buy a batch of geodes. You are so blessed to have a spot to go hunting near you.
You mentioned cracking a lot of those with the pick. Maybe bring a second short-handled pick and / or a 2-3 ft crow bar. Those are 2 of my favorite rock hounding tools
Oak Knob Rocks
Heyyyy mate! So sorry for the late response.
Oh that sounds like a good idea with those two tools. Benny and I were a bit eager I think haha! We noticed the other guy digging hard and we just copied, but we failed to notice how gentle he dug when he was on one haha! Classic rookie digging 🤣
But yeah so so blessed to have been shown such a treasured place. Just grateful for the experience and the mate ship.
I hope you and everything on the farm is going well my friend. 👍👍👍
I ended up not figuring out anything to play on guitar (I chickened our basically) haha! Maybe one day though still think it was a great idea.
Talk soon mate. Take care 😊
@@Rookie_Rockounding ok... I doubled down on the tune... I played one on piano (keyboard) and that's not even my preferred instrument :) Don't make me break out the kazoo.
I jest, but... I would also love you to join. This WAY out of my comfort zone, too. I haven't played guitar in public in 20 years.....
Love this channel. Great production. . .Great Job.
G. Elliott Nielsen
Thank you so much G. Elliot!
That looks like such a cool spot! As always, your music is on point! Loved the video.
Thank you dude!!!! I hope you’re keeping well over there mate. I thought of you yesterday, my mum got my nanas rock collection out and there was a sweet fossilised clam in there!? I don’t know where they got it from but I was like, oh I gotta tell mamlambo!
Hiya mate, I have to say..... Great job on the polishing. It looked like you had a awesome time finding them. That's what really counts in my book. Great video, I hope you have a great blessed day. Cheers!
#1 Catfishunter Miller
Exactly Miller, that’s definitely what counts. Thank you my friend and have a brilliant rest of the weekend mate 👍👍👍
You have no idea how lucky you are to find Thunder Eggs and Geodes casually hanging out of a hill side. I really don't think there is any of either in Southern Tasmania. Great day fossicking in NSW you got some wonderful things. Loving those Thunder Eggs. I bought one magic geode this outside and hundreds of Crystals but the other two are very heavy. New subscriber can't wait to see more videos
Haha! That was my exact same thought.
Another good one rookie old mate! You lucky boy!❤❤❤❤
Allyson Hean
Hey Ally! Thank youuuuuu, still came out more confused than when I went in 🤣🤣🤣
I have fun trying to make sense of my rock book.....hmmm🤔😉🤣
Its always a pleasure to watch your videos and this one was an absolute pleasure, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us. I did go out into the woods for an hour or so today to make a tribute video for my Mom , She was gravely injured in an accident a few days ago and sadly we lost her yesterday . I'm planning on uploading my video later today but I haven't got a title for it as of yet . Stay safe and healthy my friend and thank you for this wonderful uplifting video , I needed this today . Lloyd.
Oh god Lloyd. No. Man. I can’t think of how that loss must feel. I’ve lost my father but it wasn’t sudden. And every loss is unique. And as much as I say that I truely am sorry, just genuinely sorry, I know it doesn’t quite help. I feel for you though Lloyd. For you and your mother. And your family and her loved ones. I just feel for you guys. I’m so sorry. I wish I could show just how sorry I am for your loss. I stand with you man. Beside you even over here. I stand with you. Grief is something I’ve known and it’s something that moves in, and never moves out. But you get used to its presence. Hold fast my friend. And know I’m here if you need to talk. Sending love and thoughts of peace for you my mate.
@@Rookie_Rockounding thank you for this wonderful heartfelt comment , I'm saddened to hear about you losing you Dad and I hope your Dad knew what an amazing and caring Son he has in you my friend from afar . In just the past few years I've had to say goodbye to one of my Sons ( Andrew) , my Dad and now my Mom . Thank you again for such a caring sincere comment and your friendship. Lloyd.
I'm so sorry.
@@iloverocks1235 Thank you 💚.
highenergyog
Oh thank you Lloyd, I was very lucky to have a father who was caring and forever proud and supportive hey.
Man the losses you’ve encountered have been massive. I hope you’re able to find peace with the loss of their presence in the presence of the memories. It’s not easy but sometimes it’s all we’ve got brother. Thinking of you my friend.
Whatever they are, they're beautiful! Thank you for showing us some different types of spherical rocks!
Gwynn Farrell
Okay now on that, on that I can definitively agree 😁👌 they are beautiful and even more so in real life. Have a great weekend my friend!!!
Nice haul mate!! They turned out great! Can't wait for this covid to be over already!!! I have a spot in NSW, that you can just walk along picking up thunder eggs and broken ones everywhere with agate, druzy, chalcedony showing 😜. I was foaming at the mouth. Can't wait to get back there.
Colin Merriman
Heyyyyyy mate! Oh man I so can’t wait either. NSW has the best places to find these and other treasures hey. We’ll have to meet up one day to hound!
Hi Rookie, that was fun and SeaJay says yes the rule is correct "a thunderegg can be a geode but a geode cannot be a Thunderegg". If you would like an Oregon Thunderegg we will send you 1 uncut and 1 cut and polished, just send us an email (in the description of all our videos) we are blessed to have many.
Great and fun video!
Agate Enchantment & Rock Wizardry
Heyyyyyyyyuuu guys!!!!! Sorry for the late response! I’m late getting to the reply’s.
Oh thank you guys but I couldn’t ask you to do that! You’re toooooooo kind. That’s what I love about both of you, just good good people!
@@Rookie_Rockounding thank you and we appreciate you too. You've got so many subscriber's it's a wonder you can get to all your mail.
We both admire you & would love to send you a gift but it's all good. The joy in life comes from giving and we know how hard the work is to keep up a normal life...lol... then be a rockhound and on top of that run a UA-cam channel. It's a wonder you have any time to yourself at all.
Blessings to you and stay healthy my friend!
Another great video really nice specimens you have found they are gorgeous . I have found thunder eggs where it looks like the chalcedony/silica solution slowly evaporated leaving a small hole where the quartz crystals can grow just a bit but still inside a solid chalcedony shell .
JonKinchIsLegit
Hey Jon, yeah! I’ve found those ones too and I think it’s the ones with the little pockets but with lots of chalcedony that challenge the rules in my brain haha! Damn rules, each ones beautiful though, whatever they’re called haha!
Yay! I'm excited to watch this!
Hu Keas
I hope you enjoyed it Hu 😉👍
Yay Frookie, so good to see you and your buds. So, they are both mostly round rocks with pretty things on the inside. That’s as far I go with it 😉 Nice job on the polishing, they looked great. Too bad some of them were cracking and splitting. Stay safe my friend.
P.S. I’m enjoying watching The Finders. Seeing many different parts of the country and some great videos by fellow rockhounders. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
betojdesigns
Heyyyyyyy! Sorry for the late reply my friend! Thank you!
Oh I’m so glad that the finders has helped so many people find and be found. There’s so much to see out there it’d be a shame to not have them seen 😉
I hope you have a great rest of the week betojdesigns!!!!!! 👍👍👍
So thundereggs are a type of geode (sometimes filled geode) with chalcedony in rhyolitic volcanic ash, and geodes are any hollow stone with crystals inside. Conclusion: All thunder eggs are geodes or filled geodes, but not all geodes are thunder eggs.
Kevin Luo
That’s a great way to explain it! Thank you Kevin, I’m learning so much from these comments!!!
Spot on...
Good go. Geode are hollow , with crystals, and at times the chalcedony or agate out to the edges, the geodes sometimes have weathered out of the host rock and clay to. But it just fun looking for rocks anyway.
Saint Jimmy
Yeah exactly hey, it’s cool knowing what they are but finding them no matter what is just so much fun!
They are pretty. Enjoyed the video. Enough said. 🙂 Davin
Davin Kates
Yeah man, regardless of what they’re called, I know I’m at least correct in saying they’re magnificent 😉👍
I love geodes! Where I collect in Indiana they are formed in sedimentary rock and can be any shape. Geodes are best when very light. It was great when you have someone to give you a place to go that has great stuff.
your gonna need a bigger rucksack for the geodes and thunder eggs :0) being honest I thought they was different too, everyday day is a learning day :0) great finds and I love the one at 8.04 and 10.16 :0) really great vid as you never know whats inside until you cut them open :0) looking forward to the next adventure :0)
robert martyr
Hey mate! Haha! Yeah definitely need a bigger rucksack 🤣Yeah every days a learning day 😉👍
Hope you’re keeping well mate!
Great finds, cutting, and polishing! I've recently got a source in southern Indiana for geodes. How about a polishing video in the near future? Keep the videos coming!
Paul Carder
Hey Paul, thank you mate! Yeah I’m thinking i might do a bit more of an in depth polishing video soon. Thanks for the support mate 👍👍👍
I was so excited about my one! Holy freaking crap did you hit a jackpot! Id have been doing happy dances for days!!
My sister and I love picking up the geodes. We get them in Westport Washington. Our favorite shopping stop there, it's called Granny Hale's. We love there fudge. "The Geodes" there are the suprise, We've learned how to slowly open them. Using a flashlight to see how clear they might be after cleaning all the dirt off with an icepick. Thank you showing your finds.
Maybe the reason these classifications are wrought with confusion is because the classification of a single specimen could change over time - today, it’s a geode. In a million years, it may become a thunder egg.
For math enthusiasts:
There is some lesson in here about classical Set Theory (think Venn diagram) being inadequate to describe this relationship because of the point-in-time factor, but I’m nearly 30 years out of grad school now, so I’ll need someone else with a more recent degree to explain if Fuzzy Set Theory is necessary to iron out this conundrum. 🤔
Tina H
Heyyyyyy I think you have a point here. And maybe it’s not meant to be simple. It’s meant to keep our brains thinking. 😆
I just found your channel, I'm from Washington State in the US but I appreciate the rough (or raw...??) Close ups and the way you talk about the different stones and minerals from formation all the way through to polishing. My kids even watch with me! Thanks for the content! :)
Ohhh that’s so cool Emily! Thank you for saying hi, say hi to the kids from me and I hope you all are staying safe from the fires over there.
Great voice over work man. Great video as usual.
Hey brother! Thanks dude, it’s weird doing voice overs haha!
Hope you and the fam are keeping rad Ray!
Awesome adventure sweet honey hole that sure is great that have a friend to take you to his spot you sure getting good at polishing awesome my friend it is a good question I have always taken it geodes are hollow and have crystals of quartz, Crystals but who really knows awesome adventure thank you for sharing
milesnn
Thank you miles! Yeah we are so so sooooooo lucky to have had this opportunity. We didn’t even know these spots existed until now 😳
Omigosh, Rookie, that is AMAZING! So, so beautiful - what an incredible place, and incredible finds. Also, I really like your beard trim - it shows more of your beautiful face.
KatyDid
Nawww schucks thanks Kate 🤪
Yeah that place is insain just how many are on that hillside. It’s hard knowing what’s in them but I reckon it was majority of them that were really nice inside. 😉👍
@@Rookie_Rockounding I understand that even Oregon thundereggs are sometimes very boring inside. But with all the eggs available, you were sure to get some winners! And you DID! The weather is springy and gorgeous here (I assume it's autumn there), and I'm a bit giddy from the warm weather and sunshine. Can you imagine A GIDDY Kate? 😂
Hahaha! A giddy Kate, is there any other kind of Kate 🤪🤪🤪😆
Yeah it’s autumn here, that’s my fav season I reckon. And then winter is here which is probably more like your spring. It’s not very cold in Queensland.
What we found in Oregon seems to have both agate and crystals. You did a good job explaining it. Amazing place and friend to invite you.
Holy crap!!! I would camp there for a few days and fill my trunk!!! Lol
Raw Dawg Pendants
Haha! Man I know right, and we only spent half the morning there 🤪
It’s all beautiful treasure!
Kristy North
I gotta agree with you there 😉
These are awesome. So lucky to have a friend let you dig them out. Bit jealous right here 🙃☺
Geode is a host rock with a hollow hole inside and crystals. Thunder rock eggs are solid with the same crystal or chalcedony inside, just in a solid form..
Carriemchardy Carrie
Thank you for your help 😁👍👍👍
So they're basically nodules?
But some thundereggs are hollow.... I hound, cut and collect them..
Love them both, have a few thundereggs that are the combo, I love natural crystals but to me a thunderegg is more beautiful and each one has it own unique color and banding . Vary cool that you were able to go out to an area where they are so prolific.
Bob Hicks
Yeah thunder eggs are one of my favourite to collect, so so lucky to have been shown this area. So lucky 😊
Geodes are prolific in Kentucky and Tennessee. Some as large as a child’s head. I’ve collected many in the last ten yrs. sooo fun!
Damn my man where is the beard 😂❤️ i hope you enjoyed trying new things such as geodes hunting 😍😍 am sure u did and those are some good geodes 😭👌🏻 keep it up man
Nikito Vitch
Hey Nikito!!! Haha! Yeah the beard is on its way back. Just needed a fresh start 🤪
We definitely did have a great time doing something different. Such a cool experience, so lucky 😉👍👍👍
Rookie Rockhounding so glad that u had a great time 😍😊👌🏻👌🏻
Hi there! Valerie here from the Hunter Valley. At 66 I finally have my first Lortone double tumbler thanks to my daughters monetary birthday gifts in February. Then the covid 19 hit and apart from 2 visits to the Wattagans (now closed) I have been stuck at home watching every video on rockhounding there is. Thanks to Katydid & Quest for Details who have tons of open space in America to keep a distance I have had new ones to watch (not that I'll ever go there! LOL Not my cup of tea & a bit far).
I watched the video with you and Rhonda on her property and wondering whether I could purchase enough Jasper pieces to tumble in both barrels? Seeing as I cannot get out & about at present. Can't wait until we can all get out & go rockhounding and you have some new great videos to present to all us lapidary and geology enthusiasts.
Regards and keep well in this time, Yours "The Poetic Rowan" (I also love creative writing.) Valerie
LUCKY??? More like winning the lottery!
How wonderful for you guys!!
I've found thundereggs, here in Oregon.
Sliced one open to find a green opal butterfly. Yep!
Thanks for sharing!
Also, thanks for pronouncing Oregon the 'right' way. 😉
Yep, in Oregon here in the US, most Thunder eggs are hollow geodes.
Yeah wow, I honestly never knew that. Learning with rocks is the best 😁
Most thundereggs in Oregon, are not hollow, they are solid! Have cut 100's of them, might have a few hollowed ones..
Beauty geodes. Thunder eggs not here so I can't help. TFS mate
icatz
Thanks mate! 👍👍👍
Ótimo trabalho de pesquisa estou aprendendo ao pouco
Girlfriend and I just spent the last 2 weekends looking for thunder eggs here in eastern Oregon...Succor creek area...and it was frustrating. We got a few pieces that were already broken, but most of the solid ones we found had very little agatey goodness inside...lol. I did find one rugby ball sized one that is oozing agate and chalcedony that is awesome...but I wont know the inside until I rent the concrete cutter like you guys did in a video.
Did you dig for them? Most you have to dig..
@@michaelvandyke we were trying to find where to dig. Looking for signs of others digging but did not come across any obvious spots. We were either in the wrong area or people were really good at filling their holes...lol.
ward walker
Yeah, the creeks tend do damage them a bit, but if you’re finding them in the creek, it means they’re somewhere near, and the banks or feeder creeks are a great way to find the source.
Also I’d suggest if you can, see if there’s a lapidary club near by, they may have a big saw that they can cut the big guy on for a small fee. It’s usually pretty cheap and they are super helpful with identifying what’s inside 😉
@@Rookie_Rockounding you will never guess, but I just landed a trade with a local, I'm getting a 24 inch rock saw...he's getting $900 worth of lawn care!
Aren’t thunder eggs are nodules that formed, then cracked allowing mineralization after, like a two phase process. Maybe taking millions of years between each phase. Geodes are gas bubbles that mineralized. Single phase process. Either way I love them all, stay safe.
GrassGuy 420 Thank you for this extra bit of detail. So still, the thunder egg started out as a geode, right? The geode ends after that single- stage process. But if the geode fills in, gets fissures, and those fissures fill in, it becomes a thunder egg?
GrassGuy 420
Hey bud! Man! Noiccccce! That makes it make way more sense! Thank you Grassguy!
This is why I liked that I couldn’t quite comprehend it, cause then I knew others would come and help me learn. I didn’t know that about the 2 phase process with the thunder eggs so it’s really helped. Thanks again mate!
I have always had a fascination for geodes aka thunder eggs aka geodes....oh heck. I love them all but alas, have none. Thanks for the video. 😁
Lol, yeah some questions, but it does make sense though! These are super pretty, so insane!
PARABÉNS! BELÍSSIMAS PEDRAS!!! DEUS ABENÇOE VC E SUA FAMÍLIA!
Aida Iris
OBRIGADO!!!! 😉👍👍
I was told, "just feel the weight!" Heck, I couldn't feel the diff at all > I have not handled that many but, basically I don't know lol. Havagudun and when you find a definitive answer let us know. Stay safe,
It doesn't take long to learn the difference. When you find two the same size it's very easy to feel the weight difference.
E. D. Law
Hahaha! I couldn’t tel the difference either. But I reckon the bigger they get the easier they become to differentiate that weight. I’m thinking. Haha. These ones were tiny ones.
What a fun day hunting! Uh for the geode and thunder egg, I'll have to take the F professor :)
stinkygraykitty
Hahaha I’ve definitely not passed this class. I might get marks for effort but that’s it 🤣🤣🤣
@@Rookie_Rockounding I thought they were the same thing, oh well I can tell petrified wood and amethyst apart :)
stinkygraykitty
Hahaha! Yeah that’s the level I’m at pretty much 😆
A day late but worth the wait! Jesse!!! That was awesome possum dude! Holy mountain of Thunder eggs. My mouth was to the floor😮 SO MANY...oh man that must've been hard picking what to bring home. Since you can't see inside...but that's part of the thrill with thundereggs eh! What beauties m8. And you explained geode thundereggs pretty well actually. They are simply a geode, that would have been a thunderegg if it filled the void completely, but because it didn't, it's a geode. That's why they say thunder eggs can be geodes. It just confuses people because really it's just a geode if it's Hollow still. But because thundereggs are solid all the way through to be considered a thunderegg, that is why geodes cannot be a thunderegg. Just don't overthink it... if it's Hollow it's a geode if it's not it's a thunderegg. I actually have a thunderegg that I'm going to be sending to you from Richardson's Ranch. I also have Raw Dawgs gift for you too. I will be mailing that soon. I have sm pieces for Benny and Pauly too😁 So email me your address dude!😎🐾
And Holy crap you shaved bro! Almost didn't recognize ya haha! Just kidding😄👍
Can't wait to see how the tumble came out! Taking out my chrysoprase today after the second week now in coarse. I hope I didn't tumble all the blue away in my blue Agate either. Cross your fingers! 🤞
Take care out there and hug your family tight every night. Talk to you soon🐾
Oooo do we get a peek at the chrysoprase again?
Marlaina Atkins
Hey hey Marrrrr! I think how you described it is where my brain actually understand now. I gave it so so soooooo much thought 🤪🤪🤪 way too much thought haha.
Ohhh no no! I couldn’t accept anything else from you until I tray the favour. I’m actually going to be sending people their stuff after this Friday, I’ll be boxing them up Friday and sending them when I can get to the post office next. I can’t wait to send you all the stuff. It’s been so long that I still haven’t sent Thirst his package yet from OVER A YEAR 😳🤭🥺
Worrrrrrrrrst friend ever! But hopefully what’s inside will make up for it a bit. Haha.
I will be emailing too. This video d last week took it outta me. We had birthdays and stuff so I’ve been busy faced.
But yes! Will email you super soon!
Marlaina Atkins
Oh and sweeeeeet! 2 weeks in course. This tumble is the longest that I’ve ever done. The rocks are tiny haha! Kidding.
Sending love from our family to yours 😉
@@thirstfast1025 to be honest...not happy with most of it. There will be a few good pieces out of it. But yes...i will show the final result anyway😎🐾
Holy smokes mate!!..I thought you were a crack head crawling around on the streets of Detroit grabbing up them thunder eggs on that hill!!..lol!!..hellz yah I would be!!..what an amazing opportunity to have!!..like Xmas, new years and a birthday all in one!..I call tell your a troop cuz most ppl pack up when it rains..good job guys!!.I love the end of the show.great rocks m8t!!
Wil Bostwick
Oh man hahaha! You know it! A rock addict to the core 🤣
Definitely so so lucky to be invited to hound this stuff.
Oh and honestly, that rain was so uncomfortable but we couldn’t walk away, too much action 😉😉😉
Awesome video 😄 looks like you are digging them from mud, do they form in a host rock and then weather out?
Thanks Scottish Girl, yeah it pretty much was mud that day but they form in Rhyolite. I think the mud is like decomposed Rhyolite maybe? I’m not sure haha. But yeah, the host rock is Rhyolite. 😉
Witam piękne okazy😍ale czy to było szlifowane jakiej tarczy użyłeś 😁
I once asked a zookeeper what the difference was between a reindeer and caribou. He said one started with a R and the other started with a C. For all practical purposes I wonder if it's similar with thunder eggs and geodes.
Philip Stoller
Hahahaha! Phillip this made me laugh, I’m guessing its exactly the same rule of thumb 🤣😂
Those are amazing!
Pretty dam sweet awesome stuff man !😁
Thank you mate!
@@Rookie_Rockounding you bet mate I'm in Illinois Chicago find some geodes and crystal from Arkansas and jasper from the crater of diamonds but the calcidny and agates you find are amazing 👏
What camera are you using Rookie? Great video
Thunder geode heaven!!!
Raw Dawg Pendants
Seeing that wall of round goodness everywhere just blew my mind man!
Nice👍
Mayu Dale YT thank you 😁
I remember finding my first geode in warm springs, Oregon. My auntie had me climb up a tiny mountain side little cave to take a picture once I made it to the top I looked on the ground making sure there's weren't any snakes and I saw something sparkle on the ground it was almost whole just a little part missing and the inside was peachy pink crystals and the outside looked sorta like a regular orange rock just bumpy. Being 7-8 years old I couldn't wait to show my neighbor friends, they wanted a piece of it so my kindhearted kid self took a hammer to it and destroyed it 😢😭 well you live and you learn lol
Hotdog hotdog Hotdiggity dog
Ohhhhhh but how awesome of a memory is that! And I’m sure the rock was probably happy to bring even more people joy! It sounded like a beauty though! 😉👍
🙏🏼 nice ones!
Oh my gosh thank you so much for the super thanks mate! That’s far too kind and I really appreciate the massive support Jack
they're beautiful either way. what did you use to clean the inside, a acid ?
Hey Patrick. Yeah so I used Oxalic acid. It’s a rust remover I bought from the hardware store. 👍😁
Just casually out in the middle of the jungle digging for thundereggs and geodes! What an opportunity. Looked like you were mostly digging with pick-axe, is that right? I've got a little trip planned myself for going after something called dryhead agate and I think it is going to be similar to this, but only in a desert.... Take care Rookie!
Agate Angler
Hey dude, yeah we bought new ones cause we’ve never used them before haha.
Oh dude now that sounds rad! Hopefully we all can get out there soon mate 👍👍👍
Lithopysae consist of nodules. When the nodule is formed in a rhyolitic lava flow then it is called a thunderegg. If the thunderegg has a void, or hollow cavity, it is called a geode. A nodule can be a thunderegg, a sphereulite, and a geode all, none, or some. It is typical to open them by cutting across the flow bands, but not always.
From Luna county, Thunderegg HQ
I don't think you're as confused as you think you are.... Thunder eggs are angular, whereas vesicles/nodules are typically spheroidal. That's because vesicles are typically captured bubbles, whereas thundere ggs typically occupy openings created at a bit more depth by noncoaxial shear (kind of like en echelon fractures, but smaller scale). The varying permeability of the rhyolite acts as a valve system, allowing more fluid to permeate in less porous rock (because there is less space between grains to occupy, so higher pressure). In some instances, where the rhyolite is very porous, only the initial influx of fluid stays in the hollow, and the remaining moisture is reabsorbed by the porous rock, leaving crystals like you're finding here. If it's less porous, and if there is a continued phase of fluid influx, it will fill the void entirely. Because of this higher speed of deposition, you very rarely see banded thunder eggs, mostly waterline. This "soaking" method of deposition creates the shell of silicified rhyolite surrounding the core, hence the shape of the raw eggs, and also this is the reason you find the cores (since purer silica is more durable than silicified rhyolite). That's also why you find so many eggs in one area when you find them, they are found where an entire rhyolite volcano has slumped on one flank (that noncoaxial shear).
SO: A geode HAS to be - A semi-spheroidal to spheroidal cavity lined with minerals. Can be in pretty much any kind of rock. If it's long and narrow, lining but not filling a fracture it's a vug.
A Thunder egg HAS to be - An angular shear formation, partially or completely filled with minerals. Typically only in rhyolite or andesite (because those are lavas capable of building a slope that will generate noncoaxial shear, basalt builds a slope whose stress is nearly vertical). The thunder egg has filled comparatively more quickly than a vesicle that hosts an agate nodules, and has altered the surrounding rock to create it's spheroidal shell around the fracture (ie the process has added to the rock). At most, you might notice some leaching surrounding vesicular nodules (ie the rock has lost something in the process of filling the void). So if in the process of formation the thunder egg isn't filled with minerals, it fits the description of a geode, while still falling in the category of Thunder Egg.
Easy peasy, right? LOL!
You had me at noncoaxial shear...😁
@@iloverocks1235 Lol! I re-read my comment and thought "maybe this *IS* a little confusing!"
This is exactly why I luved ya Thirst, from the first time I saw you here.
I love rocks123 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thirst Fast
No no no, well, kinda but I thinnnnnnk I may have understood that. Dude I love how it’s just soaked into your brain, all this rock knowledge. And I’m like... “okay, so ones hollow, and ones not... * clears throat * I think...”
hahahahaha! Man I was thinking of you as I filmed this this afternoon. That last bit. I was like, if this isn’t the equivalent to the Batman signal in the sky to Thirst, than I don’t know what is.
Man I’m gonna reread that again. And again I am sure of it. And hopefully get my big brain on 😉
But seriously Adam. I love this. This always makes me feel like I’ve made a connection with you and that to me makes me so damn happy.
Have a rad weekend brother. Will be talking to you soon hopefully man! Promise!
No matter how broken or sliced open you feel, always remember that a treasure resides within you.
Oh! This is perfect!
We have somemof.those on our property and we live in Yuna AZ!
How much.will be the price of Thunder egg?
What elevation are u finding them at? I believe elevation has to do with how fast a geode fills up with elements. Yah I'm from Oregon
Oh woah, I didn’t know that but it would make sense wouldn’t it. I’ll have to look into that Thomas, thanks mate 👍
Still confused, but love the stones!
Haha... yeah. Me too 🤦♂️😂
Do your diamond disks ever wear out? Can you dress them with a brick like a tile saw blade? I saw a small chunk of brick in one shot. Thx!
Hey Matt, I haven’t found them to wear out, but it’s funny you ask, at some points they seem to not work as well, and because I’ve used the brick on the tile saw, I tried it on the pad. Just a quick rub sort of thing and I’m not sure if I was imagining it but I think it made a difference. I think. Haha. But man, good eye mate. 👍👌
I keep making comments but they don't stay on here.
Yes it's me, this is what I look like according to the interpol database.
A rock is a rock, a round rock is a bubble or river stone, whole when cut is two parts and one part is half, but the two halves won't make a hole, so where is the hole, you can't have half a hole yet you cut a hole in half ergo you do have half a hole, unless there is no hole then you have half of not a hole, are you still with me on this?
Ok so a round rock with a hole is not the same as a round hole with a rock, but a round hole in a rock can be seen though whereas a round hole can be looked in but not through.
So lets recap, round is a bubble or river rock which may holes that you can see but they can't dig but some you can see through.
Great, thanks jesse, that is far more understandable now.
Great work as usual.
Man that got me confused😂
Nox 2341
Hahaha! I know I’m so sorry mate. It boggles my mind the whole time I was making it. 😆
The hollow, crystal-filled rocks you have are teggs that also happen to be geodes. That's consistent with what you were first thinking. I would completely ignore that saying from Oregon. It's half wrong and very confusing because it gets you thinking about teggs and geodes in the wrong way.
The easiest way to think of them is to focus on their definitions. A tegg is a specific type of rock, whereas a geode can be any type of rock that has a hollow cavity lined with crystals. Septarians are a good example of another type of rock that can also be a geode.
This is consistent with what Paul Colburn believed. He wrote a good book on how he thought teggs form. He spent decades digging teggs from dozens of locations throughout the western US. It's a good read with lots of pictures. His nickname was "The Geode Kid," it was given to him by other rockhounds while he was digging at the Hauser Geode Beds in California. The geodes from there are teggs.
At one point in the video you were wondering how a tegg becomes a geode instead of having a solid chalcedony center. There's always a source of water that carries silica into the teggs (river, lake, rain, floods, hydrothermal activity, etc.) If the water source is consistent enough then the tegg can fill completely with chalcedony. Fluctuations from wet to dry can cause the chalcedony to form waterlines or fortification/banding. However, if the water source gets cut off completely then the last of the water-silica solution to enter the tegg will form quartz crystals instead of chalcedony. Nothing else will enter the tegg because there's no more water so you end up with a geode.
I appreciate you're videos and hope you keep making more. You have a lot of enthusiasm for what you do. Lol, I loved how you let out a frightened shout when one of the geodes you were holding fell out of your hand. It shows that you really carry about those rocks!
I like geodes for the beautiful crystals inside
I wanna go geode digging too!
I call thunder eggs *nodes*. All geodes though.. right? Older are solid? More knowledge makes for more questions... what did u soak them in and how long did the soak take? Great video.
Dawn Morning
Yeah that’s exactly it, that’s why I love learning with these beauties, I always end up wanting to know more 😆
So I soaked them in oxalic acid, it’s called Iron Out, in America and Rust and Stain Cleaner over here in Aus. I soaked these for about a day but I think I may have gotten away with a little bit less time. If they’re done in a clear container you can check on them periodically to see when you’d like to take them out. I’m still learning the acid side of things. I hope that helps Dawn 😁👍
@@Rookie_Rockounding have bar keepers friend and will see if it does anything. Will look for rust out next time. I sort my geodes by *shakers* and non. Always a mystery inside. Happy hounding.
So thunder eggs is a type of rock and geode are a formation from what I understand.
Christophe
Okay so I like the way you explained that. So much less confusing. 👌
Thunder eggs have filled in with the crystals... geodes haven’t filled in yet, there is still open space in geodes... given the right conditions and enough time the crystals will continue to grow eventually taking up all the space and growing together creating the solid interior of the thunder egg.
Jai
Ahhhh okay so it’s like the geode ones are still growing and the other ones are well and truely aged. Thanks dude!
@@Rookie_Rockounding Just to add confusion to the mix, all thundereggs are silica bases while you can have non silica geodes.