Ex-Mrs. Glen Campbell & Other Exes Talk With Donahue
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- From 1983, Phil Donahue talks with celebrity ex-wives Billie Jean Campbell (Glen Campbell), Lynn Landon (Michael Landon), Marilyn Funt (Allen Funt), and Jackie Joseph (Ken Berry) about what life has been like for them as celebrity ex-wives.
Phil Donahue was such a great interviewer and his show was excellent. He really facilitated honest, open, insightful discussion. Wish today's talk shows were even half as good.
This here is no different.....emberassing to watch....tks anyways.
You have to admit Phil is kind of a nut job
Donahue’s ego was so huge he wouldn’t let his guests speak.
My Mom insisted that I should be able to support myself and 2 children, come what may. I became a nurse. Thanks Mom!
Same here but God told me to become a nurse and so I did at the age of 45 > 19 days after my 45th b'day I got my RN license.
@@deborahhershey3045 That's impressive to do at 45. I went back to college after marriage and a baby to get my degree in nursing and I was much younger. I am retired, 70 now and miss nursing (some days).
Divorced teacher here.
You had help. Stop being a hero.
I sacrificed my college education to put my Mormon ex through college. He eventually became a huge success. With the money came new young women and eventually his 16 years younger mistress. He dumped me, our five kids and took everything we’d earned together. My ex and his mistress live in a custom house in southern Utah that was purchased in cash with my stolen money. He got millions while I got the shaft.
To all the young women out there: learn a skill, get an education, earn a degree, attend community college. Do NOT ever depend on a man solely for your livelihood. You never know if the marriage will end, he'll die, become disabled, leave you etc... Don't be foolish. You should always be able to take care of yourself if you have to.
@Tangerine Sky333 FEMINISM LIVES !
B4 society built cities if a womans husband died many had to resort to prostitution
@Alissa well be thankful things are better now
Good advice in a perfect world. However, not everyone is that lucky to have good enough health to stay independent, life happens.
@A Tangerine Um, no, I started my career in 1979, I worked with several women, including once having a female boss, and married a woman who was an insurance underwriter. You have no idea what you're talking about.
It's to bad we don't have real talk shows like this nowadays... Now all we have is...he is the baby daddy...or I slept with my cousin or some other vile subject... just another example of how far we have fallen as a society...
*too bad
@@January. yeah your right it is too bad....lmao...
To much drama in today's society
I loved watching this show back in the day
🎯💯
Phil donahue was one of the best talk show hosts ever!!! he brought social issues to daytime television something other talk show hosts would never dare to do.
@cubomania3 do you not know how to read or what? he left years before he got involved with Marlo....people have relationships and MARRIAGES that don't work for both parties...and if it didn't for one, the other was most likely in denial..unhealthy all around. you do not get it...or don't want to.
patricia x
Thank you.
Mark ruane, He lacked compassion, though. His questions and approach could often be too aggressive, disrespectful and tone deaf.
Eh Sally Jesse Raphael was the business
@patricia x he was seeing Marlo while he was a talk show host.
I was devastated when the Phil Donahue show finished😢
We had a very good marriage to begin with. He just went through a complete personality change. We were married 13 years. We divorced and he disappeared. I raised our child. I have turned down a couple of marriage offers and oddly enough even being older I have men that are up to 12 years younger than me wanting to have a relationship. I just like to come home from work and relax, enjoy other interests and not have to solve another person's problems.
Love your reply, I have a similar experience.
@@patriciaaznavourian3014 Patricia azn...
I so relate to what you're saying.
Have a blessed weekend 🍂🍁
I can relate to that. A marriage and partner can take a lot out of you that you may not be able to (or want to) share. I think young women today are better aware of this and better know their options, to avoid marriage altogether sometimes. As a matter of fact, given the better than 50% divorce rate, about half of people who get married just shouldn't consider marriage at all. Marriage isn't an inevitability. It's just a lifestyle choice, like deciding to have a child, or to get a cat or a dog. So if you hit a brick wall in a relationship and it ends, it doesn't have to be the end of the world. It's a lifestyle choice to divorce, and to start the next phase of your life. But I think young men are having a harder time accepting that marriage isn't an inevitability. They may have less of a choice because more women are aware that they don't need marriage, so men get angry and frustrated and feel their "power" wane. Their expectation for marriage and family is now controlled by women's decisions about career and their own choices about marriage and/or motherhood. Oh well, I guess turnaround is fair play, even when it comes to societal power.
My experience was/is very similar to yours.
Ya...😂..... Whatever
No matter what they may say about having money ... emotional pain is a lot less painful when you're NOT starving and or homeless. :/
clearly, some on here do not get that !!
Exactly
Page Turner Absolutely! Thank you!
Yes. It doesn't solve every problem but it solves many.
For sure Page Turner!
I love the way both the guests and audience speak graciously. Not like today.
What's VERY INTERESTING is that Phil Donahue HIMSELF divorced his first wife after exactly 17 years and FIVE CHILDREN! (Margaret Cooney married 1958-1975) Why did no one bring up HIS previous deserted wife on this show?!!!
As much talking as he did he should have
One of the phone guest brought it up. He commented about it being difficult.
I miss the Phil Donahue show! I was a young teen back then, but his shows were always so interesting that it pulled me in even at that young age.
Same here used to watch during my high school years.
Seventeen years is the duration of Phil Donohue's first marriage, after five children and his becoming "a big star." His ex wife might have been an apt panelist on this round table.
*roundtable
Sometimes the loving connection simply disappears with or without professional success.
Lynn Landon was Michaels first "other woman"; what happened to Lynn happened to the first wife. Like my granny always said, "What goes around comes around."
Alibis by Sergio Mendes.
Dodie was his first wife. I think they adopted a son. She passed in 1991, as did Michael.
Michael was a bit of a ego…I am sure she was fine that they divorced. It’s a relief.
Amen!
What a judger you are, Tom
Most likely no one will ever read this but.... I loved this show with these ladies. It was not about man bashing, it was about getting on with life. I have been married 52 years so I know for a fact marriages go in and out phases, and around 17 years is the first major one. I can also tell you that people who have been married a long time have mastered the art of forgiveness, because you will hurt each other with words or actions more than once along the way. Commitment and especially forgiveness is the key to a long marriage. Love changes, and the love we have now is so different than the love we had starting out. I wouldn't trade any of the pain or happiness we have shared along the way because it has made the love we have now, the best kind of love. I am sure glad we made it...
Desertwind
You are so right on. We've been married 44 years. Many many struggles. But you battle through with prayer, support learning the deeper lessons of life.
@@bonniewilliams9171 You are an insightful lady. God Bless.... thank you for such a nice reply.
You're so right! Forgiveness, communication and love is essential to a long marriage. I've been married for 32 years and it's been hard and it's been a joy. People should go into marriage realizing it's not going to be perfect all the time and to keep it going, you need commitment and lots of hard work!
@@EvvynMe So beautifully said. You get it, really get it. I hope you are blessed with many more years.
@@desertwind306 Thank you so much, I appreciate it! I've experienced so much pain, and forgiveness has been extremely hard--and I haven't completely achieved it yet--but I'm working on it and working on my marriage (always) 😊
Women love differently than men! I appreciate Phil’s comment. Women need the same power as men! 👍
When people were civilized , dressed appropriately and women were classy unlike reality tv today
unfortunately true-
@@johnerwin9024 Not remotely true, scratch the surface and people were no different than they are today; just more constrained about what they can say on TV by the hypocrisy of the era.
@@Sparrowdean I don’t agree at all we have dumbed down society, gurls with tattoos all over and trash talking and just everyone seems so low class girls on reality tv today all trash talking with cat fights please do not sit there and tell me society is the same
@@SparrowdeanNonsense..the world has completely changed since 40 years ago ...you must be asleep.🙄🙄
The caller who called in was priceless. "Men go through a mid-life crisis and develop a crotch itch". No truer words were ever spoken. LOL I feel like she was great for saying so. A lot of men need to own up to this statement because it speaks so much truth.
I laughed so hard at that, I woke up the entire house.
Women have that itch too. Men aren’t turning us on forever either, let me tell you.
This is an example of the value of men compared to women. Men, as long as they have some form of money, power or fame will always have opportunities as they age. It doesn’t work the other way. I would bet money if “she” is famous and he is not, the same thing would happen.
@@ladesigner8764Sure do.
I miss Donahue.
He was a great interviewer with intelligence, kindness and a big warm heart.
I'm angry that the powers that be dispatched his show for their own hidden agenda.
“I’m restored”. Here is a saying for you. “Money can’t buy happiness but it makes you more comfortable while you are being miserable”...
You got that right Thinking Cap On!
Thinking Cap On. If you are broken hearted money doesn't mend a broken heart. The same as money can't buy you love.!!!
Barry Gibb is a 💎 GEM! Barry knows the importance of his wife and children. Linda and Barry know family comes first . Neither allowed outsiders to break up their family unit. Strong people
Barry admits cheating on his wife. She just put up with it.
I always loved Phil Donahue. He was insightful, kind, had intelligent questions. He wanted people to come away more knowledgeable not gobsmacked.
He always like you too! Until, you know when.
:) Phil Donahue was the original and best. I miss him terribly.
Many ppl don't know it but these ladies inspired the movie "The First Wives Club". Great movie, and fall over funny.
This is why I say women are to be educated, have a career and never rely on anyone. When a woman is financially independent she doesn't have to worry about being on food stamps, a place to call home or her chidren's welfare.
+sandra mastrangelo This was quite a different time. Being a wife used to be a goal. Thank god this changed and continues to do so.
Hmm, maybe in your trailerpark but not in the everyday world.
gone fishin I don't live nor have I lived in a trailer park.
What if she wants to be a stay at home mom?
+sandra mastrangelo you're picture says otherwise honey.
Sadly, Billie Jean Campbell and Lynn Landon have passed and Jackie Joseph she remarried and loss her son to cancer and her daughter to natural causes as well as her third child . Sad all three of her children she loss. Marilyn Funt is still living. Phil the king of talk is still with us and I believe working. "YES" Phil and Marlo Thomas are still together since 1980 that's happy to hear ..
Quite insightful. After all these years after recording, the issues are still relevant. Healing. Power. Children. Phil is right about resentment.
Three of these women, Billie Jean, Lyn Landon and Marilyn Funt were the second wives to their husbands.
How much of a shock is it really that their marriages failed when the divorce rate for second marriages in the United States is over 60% ?
Good point
I hardly missed a Donahue show..loved him
You loved him? He did exactly what the men did who he is talking about here. He left his life and children for a woman who was a gust on his show; Marlo Thomas.
I didnt say he was perfect...lol
It is an ill wind that doesn't blow some good. When is someone going to interview Margaret Cooney?
He didn't leave his wife for Marlo ... it was a 5 year gap there.
Most marriages end. That is life for most people.
Don Diego Vega No he didn’t leave his first wife for Marlo Thomas . He was long divorced before they even met
thank you for posting this.... people don't know what it's like to go through a divorce unless they've been there.... for some of us, it's like heart surgery with no anesthesia and only the Lord helps us through.....
Not true for the one who left and that's a fact
Rebecca Day Amen & if you have children then you have to watch their hurt & pain while you put all of your lives back together! Well said Rebecca!
Rebecca Day & I agree 💯the heart ❤️ surgery example is exactly what it is a different knife is used is all!
Rebecca Day well said especially if you never stop loving them. Years on. Well said. Thank you
Rebecca Day. Don’t you think that it’s not as easy for the husband that you women seem to suggest? Why don’t we ever see shows where men are left by their wife and listen to their story. We only see shows where men are responsible for the women’s sufferings. Life is life.
the woman who said if you cook and clean and keep your husband happy.. That is putting the blame on the woman and some men are just cheaters...Something is broken and the woman can't fix it.
Women have been blamed since Adam and Eve. Women have been suppressed for centuries. Shit needs to end.
Smug old hag wasn't she. A wife can do all the right things and till be discarded.
Ladies, if you sleep with a man who's a public figure, why are you doing it if you know he's married? Aren't the mistresses at least equally to blame? Just say no and support the women who married them.
@@PhysicalGraffiti97 you are a simpleton.
Thanks so much for posting. That's a good point about not bad-mouthing an ex to the children. This is a wonderful statement: "Marriage is a gift to each other"
AstralPixie yeah a gift to the wife...I got fucking cleaned out
AstralPixie that is why my mother never liked my Dad's ex; because, nothing is gained by running child's parent down to evertime- you are very wise!
My parents had legitimate gripes, but unfortunately I was in the middle. They broke up in 1978 and never remarried. Both angry and hurt for the rest of their lives.
My ex lied about me to everyone including our kids, one hasn't spoken to me in 12 years. One hardly talks to me and one has autism and lives with me and no one in my ex's family wants anything to do with him.
@@BrenB125 Geez, that's a shame. I'm sorry to hear that.
It's nice to see these women coming together in being supportive of each other. I see a lot of women in my community who are so kind, compassionate & supportive of each other. It warms my heart!
I admire Jackie Joseph's positive attitude, perhaps it's prolonged her life.
👍🏽💯🤗
I agree. Jackie is great
She's 88 and remarried in 2003 to David Laurence.
Love the way Phil masterfully dodged the caller who asked about HIS ex-wife. I bet the caller lied to the screener, then ambushed Phil with that question once she was on the air. Good for her.
Vivian Maier was Phil's children's nanny when his show taped in Chicago, so it wasn't even as if the kids lived with and were being raised by the ex-Mrs. Donahue. I got the impression Marlo didn't want the bother or responsibility of children but had to tolerate Phil's kids in order to be with him.
I was wondering about that myself and hoping he would respond.
@cubomania3 um Phil got custody so maybe the ex was not mother of the year ?
🤣🤣yes
Phil got custody of the 4 boys and his ex-wife took the daughter. All this info is in numerous old interviews on UA-cam.
Jackie Joseph-Lawrence seems like a very nice lady and happily married to her second husband David. Jackie and Ken lost their son John in 2016.
What lovely gals. Women are wonderful the way they support each other, go girls!
Phill was the best ever!! Puts ophra to shame!!! He started it all!!!
Sadly, nobody but us think so.
Did anyone see a small movie about Michael Landon divorce and one of his children from 1st marriage what he did on the door step to his secondarriage and what the boy said ... I never forgot those words and actions from that little boy talking to his father through the door. Children suffer very much when there is a divorce between their mother and father
They sometimes feel it's their fault
This was a sad scene from this child to his father.
I recall in the movie Lynn Landon showing up at the first Mrs. Landons doorstep and apologizing to her. She had started out as the 'other woman' and now she knew how that felt.
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.
I saw them at the college I was attending to get my degree during my own divorce. It was helpful then! What a memory.
When it came to the $$ part, it's true, pain is pain, and $$ doesnt buy happiness, but it buys CHOICES. To be going through the pain AND having the stress of keeping a roof over your head with a special needs kid while having to deal with medical problems and no $$ to cope.
Sorry, they haven't a clue about that stress.
I hope things get better for you and your family.
Yes, they can still pay their bills, for counseling their cooks and nannies. Pain is pain but to have no money to pay for the basics makes it worst.
Money buys choices, freedom, convenience, etc. many times kids run to stay w dad bc he has the money to buy them.
That is exactly true @@nursevanhelsing4413 Not that I am saying that those ladies don't have some unique issues due to the fame, but as Jackie Joseph said, she changed her name, the other ladies are still holding on to their husbands fame by keeping their surnames. Money might not buy happiness, but it sure helps create it.
Also they are all men they are trans with square shoulders and Jaws long arms bigger feet protruding brow bone no hips no female shape at the waist cheers.
I don't think I can finish watching this. Lynn Landon was The other woman in his first marriage, so I don't think she has too much to complain about.
Jackie Joseph is the only positive woman in the group. She is always smiling and looking at her situation as troublefree unlike these other ladies who look angry and depressed. She is the only one who actually obtained a celebrity status without help from her husband. Little Shop of Horrors, Andy Griffith Show, Gremlins, etc. She needs to be in more films, but has sadly retired. However, she will always be a great woman and actress.
She is the type of person I'd want around - what a jewel! Did she ever find herself, her words, "a fella?" I wonder if she did - she is a jewel!
Please remember that Jackie Joseph is an actress and came play a part or maybe she was really happy to leave a bad marriage. Some people are better as friends than marriage partners.
Linda Bell-Crandall ,. So agree. Different women, different history, different experience... I thought the very fact they were there was courageous & admirable. Too, do not feel or think that ultra positivity...Pollyanna... is necessarily supportive...it can be negating & superficial. If it is truly authentic, great. Would be concerned as well for someone who appeared "overly perky" masking serious depression.
cubomania3 , Yes....
unrealistic. It's hard to listen to her. just saying.
Phil was professional and a true gentleman.
Billie Jean Campbell died in 1993, Lynn Landon in 2015. Marilyn Funt and Jackie Joseph are alive as of Nov 2022.
I see this NOW years after my own divorce - what a great group!!!!!
Watching this is a hoot
Not only the panel but the audience comments too! Boy times have sure changed…
48 years of marriage and counting... All I know is there have been times I could have murdered my wife (and vice-versa I'm sure). But even during those times I knew I loved her. We are committed to each other in good times and bad.
They are entitled to speak their truth. They were ahead of their time. Cudos to them all.
There’s only one truth.The truth.
Marilyn Funt was such a great communicator
Yes, she sounds like a very intelligent and balanced woman.
ML had a beautiful family. Don't understand how he could leave them for a woman young enough to be his daughter who was a stand in for Melissa Sue.
No she wasn't: She was a make-up artist on the set of "Little House". Everyone on set noticed how ML began to spend more and more time around her. It actually caused a rift between him and Melissa Gilbert. She had grown close to him as a sort of surrogate father after her own father passed away during the LH series. She spent lots of time at his house and she knew Lynn and his family.
I miss him and that show. There isn’t anything left like it on TV anymore and I very much miss it. I enjoyed OPRAH - but in the earlier years before it became all about her celebrity and her money and her panels of gurus and her beliefs. What Ivlives about The Donahue show was that although he was a tremendous interviewer - the show was never about HIM. With all these panel talk shows basically gossiping and talking to stars about their latest promotion I would be THRILLED to watch a great talk/interview show about important social issues like this, today!
Oprah sucks
"You get a car, and YOU get a car!!" has replaced relaxed, normal conversations between adults. All of these shows are guilty of this excess (Housewives of Podunk, The Bachelor) not just Oprah's.
It's 2021 & on May 4 it was announced that Bill & Melinda Gates are ending their marriage. This Donahue show is so timely. The lessons to be learned are self evident. One never knows.
I wonder what it was like for the 1st Mrs Donahue when Marlo turned on her charms? Did she think 'THAT WOMAN" is a whore as we all do when referring to the 'other woman' in our marriage and the cause of our divorces....
The “Berry” ex wife is very sweet! She is wonderful! And do agree that in life what we look back fondly of is the time when you were building a life, not yet established.
Wonder Woman Berry’s wife was on an episode of Mamas Family one time.
I love Jackie Joseph so imspiring
'cause yer young and yer dreams are coming true!
Donahue, was lucky to find Marlo Thomas. As talk show host, he -- like most TV Talk Show host said/says things that honestly embarrassed and/or put their guest in a spot. Johnny Carson was one of the most pleasant guys to talk with. Such a funny guy. Considerate, charming, and a sly flirt. Geraoldo, was a good interviewer, if he really liked you. If not, he knew how to put some host in a spin. Donahue, an okay guy. I use to watch him a lot. AND, I also watched Geraoldo. He always had interesting shows. For years, Oprah was my favorite. Things change.
I don’t even like Oprah. She started out great interesting…
Oprah is awful
Geraldo was sleazy
Jackie Joseph has such a great attitude here. Couldn't find the others on Wikipedia, but Jackie Joseph is still with us. Amazingly, she and Ken Berry (who is also still with us), were born four days apart. He's the oldest.
Lynn Landon looks like she spent way too much time in the sun, smoking cigarettes. Her voice seems deeper than Michael’s.
Phil's facial expression on the crotch itch comment was priceless. LOL
alan30189 I like her MUCH better than the others;. SHE likes herself!
The cigarettes definitely aged Lynn...she wasn't that cute to start with, and probably contributed to her death.
Interesting how much commentary involves criticism of the women’s appearances. It isn’t enough to exhibit all manner of positive attributes.....the underlying priority of the public is to expect women to remain youthful and attractive.. woman mature physically. It’s a fact of life.
@@dv6800 ...Another fact of life is that women are even more critical of one another pertaining to matters of physical appearance, albeit truthful. Women and men-especially those looking and sounding like they smoke six packs of Marlboro Reds per day, should prepare to be scrutinized when appearing on the world stage...positive attributes notwithstanding.
Justin Aames you are correct on both points.
❤ this is a real interview. Real talk show. ❤
They should've had Phil Donahue's ex-wife on there. LOL
The way I remember it, Phil's wife was the one who wanted the divorce.
@@anniekellas7114 That could be true. I don't remember. But I do remember when Marlo appeared on his show a 2nd time when both of them were "available" and the chemistry was definitely there!
Yeah no doubt right? Bunch of freaking w**** bags
Three out of four of these women were already wife #2.
As a divorced woman wanting to establish my independence before getting in relationship, it certainly IS about power. That men have. Like some guy told me hey babe whoevers in control has all the fun.
In control of what?
Was married 22 years when my husband passed. Since then, being single and unattached suits me best.
What is sad that I've seen with celebrity divorces.. They neglect the first family/kids for the more recent ones. Sooo many kids of celebrity divorce coming forward as adults bitter, feeling they were abandoned, on drugs,etc.
Very sadly true. Glen Campbell left his fortune to his last (4th??) wife and the 3 lucky children he had with her. His kids he had with Billie were left nothing, at all. I often see this among us little people as well. Oh, and Jerry Lewis did the same thing ... was worth 50M and left it all to his second wife and their adopted daughter ... not a dime for any of his 4 sons from his first wife, who suffered through his affairs and physical abuse, (and he abused those 4 sons, as well) 😤
Springboard 19. There should be a law to jail these type of fathers who abandon their first children for the second. It is mental cruelty to the kids and the wife.x
@@Carlyfan 😢
@@janeyd5280 Agreed 😠
@@Carlyfan I think that type of person gets karma biting at their ass. Mine certainly did. his second wife saved up their debt money for a YEAR and left with it plus furniture while he was at work.! It was music to my ears as he deserved it after turning his back on his 2 kids with me and having another 2 with her.x
I’m glad women are more self sufficient and independent, even tho I think it’ seems harder for young people to find love..I wouldn’t want to go back to the culture of those days..I like all these ladies..esp Lynn Landon..
thank you for uploading this show. It is very interesting to get the women's point of view on their separation with their famous husbands. We're always asking questions about mariage and divorce to the men, as if they're the only ones involved...
Sure seems like people were a lot more civilized back then when talking about their exes.
What is "civilized" about talking about your personal life on television?
M Daze , They’re not calling their ex’s four letter names like we hear so much today.
they had to be
@@mdaze9753 it's very healthy to talk to people about it because it is another form of abuse against women. TV is great if need be!
Ppl were wise and considerate. Ppl that have children that run down their child’s parent are just hurting their own kid.
Patti Lewis, Jerry’s ex, should have been on this show
What happened with Lewis?
Shombie they had a horrible divorce. He just packed his bags and left Patti with a broken down house and sons. Jerry found a younger woman. Patti joined this group, but she had a very very difficult.
Jerry Lewis was a cruel man.
From what I hear Jerry Lewis was a bastard.
Haha Haha I had this exact thought as I clicked on the video
THANKS for this...it's wonderful.
Wow. Just so hard for every woman who has been through this. Including myself. No, I was not married to a celebrity, so that makes it a little different. But the pain, and I don't know how to say the words that describe how painful it was, to be the one who didn't matter anymore to a husband you adored. To be the one who thought we mattered, and absolutely shattered, emotionally and mentally, to find out that wasn't the case. It's very hard. Celebrity with a lot of money, or a regular woman who had to just get a job. Doesn't make that much difference. The pain is still there, and real. I know this interview is very old, many years ago. But the sentiment is the exact same for many women still today. Men tend to toss women aside, who love them, and have been there for them. Kind of easy for them to just move on, doesn't matter so much. To us, it has a huge impact on our lives, our ego, our mental and emotional state, our financial state, that we have to recover from, on our own. Been there, done that.
this is why more women need to read/learn how to be stronger, more independent...and there's great power in reading feminist literature, taking a women's studies course in college, paying attention to strong female role models who are good people..there's lots to learn that empower us. And it's as equally important for girls and women to learn men,,something the anti--women guys don't want females to do, something they're enraged about, closed-minded about because they see it as an "us-them" choice....IDIOTS... it can be "we're in this together" choice...but too bad, they deserve to be lonely, they deserve to not learn how great women can be. If girls and women didn't run so fast into marriage, if we took more time to really SEE WHAT a man was, we'd be a lot more cautious ...and make fewer mistakes. (and they'd REALLY wait to have a child, till they were very very sure. Women are at terrible disadvantage when they get pregnant with a man not worth keeping,
Excellent so agree. Been there.
I married three cops starting in 1963. My 'picker was way off'. Divorced for
the third time by 1974. After guns, hitting, alcohol, the house on fire, and women in my bed. I decided I would do this life on my own. I didn't stop living, in fact, had a great time but paid my own way through. After two careers, and a decent retirement I moved to my dream location and at 78 feel like I had a good adventurous life. You have to work extra hard as a woman and go after what you want. With or without a man. Leave the alcohol and drugs alone and try to have safe fun without them. Seeing this
old show 'from the day' is great. I hope a lot of young women use this
as an educational tool and avoid the mistakes we made before them.
I think that's true for the person left behind, male or female it's just that more men leave the marriage after many years for a younger woman who makes them feel young again. Women leave because he loves his boy toys more then cry foul when the divorce makes him sell his toys and it's all 'her fault' because she's crazy, a bitch, or worse. I've heard it all when I dated after divorce. All the good men are taken, ladies so don't bother. Get more pets and get back into gardening and have long cries with God as God is the only true love there is.
Thank you for sharing. I once heard a pastor say, “It is easier for a person to handle the death of their spouse rather than going through a divorce.”
This is therapy weather it's public or private. Always good to talk with those of like experiences
I agree
Ironically, I was married to each of my two ex-husbands for 17 years! lol
How hard was it to face 2nd divorce?
As I wrote earlier...my marriage hit a big bump at 17 years! Thank goodness I let it ride, and 55 yrs later we are closer than ever! Interesting that so many hit that 17 yr mark!
@@melindalemmon2149 Hell for me
@@deborahhershey3045 terribly sorry. I didnt want to fail, but finally faced the 2nd split.
This was a great topic.
Glen Campbell had a rare combination. He had the talent to be a top behind the scenes studio musician and the looks and personality to be top front man
Glen Campbell was handsome?! 😆
I miss Phil Donahue show!
WOW...fabulous 4 women way ahead of their time!
Jackie Joseph interrupting Marilyn Funt was ridiculous, Marilyn was so well spoken and making such a great point to the caller's complaint that they were bringing out the dirt (para-phrasing) on their husbands on-air....she was very spot-on and then BAM, interrupted. It should have been a real APPLAUSE moment , the audience should have clapped and probably would have clapped and put that caller in her place...... except for the rude Jackie interrupting. made me so mad !!! It all starts at 25:21 and then at 25:59 Marilyn starts making her great point... Please view what I'm talking about.
I watched where you said ... a couple times and sorry but I don't agree...
That was cringe worthy, I felt the same. Love Phil but he also cut some of them off mid-point.
Thank you. At least now I know Lynn Landon is doing well. She looks great!
Anymore of this please.
I believe she has passed on.?
@@nancysullivan6827 Not yet. She's 89 though. Around 90 i expect she will pass on and be back together with Michael.
@@deborahhershey3045 I never thought they would break up. She is a beautiful woman. I felt so bad for his family when his midlife crises hit.
@@deborahhershey3045 But he clearly moved on. I don't see a reunion in the cards.
I remember watching this and how heartbreaking it was. Michael Landon was so adored. But he was a man with feet of clay. Just as susceptible to temptation and infidelity as anyone.
cards0486 I believe those men who give in to temptation by a floozy are slightly unhinged.! Grey matter challenged.!
We can all have feet of clay. Sad for the kids tho. Also sad she never remarried I don't think.
I would not have suspected Michael Landon of infidelity, and only because he looked so sweet. Silly me.
@@janeyd5280 Vanity and ego are huge factors...Then add the power of fame and huge amounts of money... And women of all ages everywhere throwing themselves at them. I have nothing good to day about women who will have sex with a man that they know is married. No integrity. As well as the husbands naturally. For some reason I think we expect women to be more sexually disciplined than men, which I think is conditioning and a double standard.
What do you mean by feet of clay? If you happen to see this.
I made sure my daughter got a education and a degree. I told her depend on yourself not a partner.. my son as well
Billie Campbell, Lynn Landon and Marilyn Funt each married their famous husbands either the same year their husbands divorced their last wife or the next! Did they expect it would not happen to tthem?
Thank you, Didn't know that. It's something to think about as I listen to them.
They are mouthing as if they were the first wife lol life is a bitch , what goes around comes around lol
yes a lot of these women were the "other" woman, they have had happen to them as they did to another woman.
AND Campbell married his first through third wives the same year he divorced the previous. I don't know how Billie can say there was no other woman.
Worse Lynn’s affair with Landon lasted during seven years of his first marriage.
I loved Donahue. Back in the day, if I was off work for some reason, I made sure I was up by 9AM, and in front of the TV with my coffee, to watch Donahue.
If a woman chooses to marry a man who is famous, or wealthy or has status, she should understand he is never going to be able to give her more than what his limitations allow. These women selected men who were in the entertainment field in one form or another. What should they expect? You probably never heard them complaining when they were living a 1% lifestyle with the status that goes along with it.
Donahue's first marriage lasted 17 years
agentxyz what is 17, i lived through 29 but I'm not a celeb. 17 is an amazing number
you're missing the irony when he finds out that they were all divorced after 17 years, he makes the comment "now people out there are checking their calendars"
@@agentxyz He ended up with the kids though, back then there had to be some very egregious for a woman to lose custody.
Who was he married to besdes Marlo?
@@lakeerie5857 his first wife was named Marge Cooney
...Lynn took Michael from his first wife. What goes around comes around. To her great credit, she became a born again Christian and apologized to his first wife for her role in the breakup of that marriage.👍🏽💯🤔
It's interesting that noone brought up the fact that Lynn took Michael from his first wife. She never thought he'd leave her? I saw Michael Landon Jr.s movie years ago about this. I now know why Lynn didn't want to mention the other woman...she was one too.
@@donnabrown1125 Yes, at first he lied to her about being married. When she found out that he was still married, she broke it off, but resumed the relationship once he convinced her that he was leaving his wife. I read this in a book written by her daughter whom Michael later adopted. I believe that she didn't mention Cindy (in this interview), because of her being so young, and realizing that she'd likely been lied to as well. They also made something of a pact to get along for the sake of the children in common...although understandably this took some time for her to come to. Being born again probably helped. It seems to me that some mention of this was made in the daughter's book, as well as in the television movie written by Michael Jr.
Lynn Noe died 11/26/15 aged 82.
....and Michael took vows and broke them, he's more guilty than the woman he ended up with.
@@user-mj8nf2vp7q what was the name of the book.
@@kimsireech2015
I Promised My Dad: An Intimate Portrait of Michael Landon by His Eldest Daughter
www.publishersweekly.com/pw/authorpage/cheryl-landon.html
They mention Patty McLeod who apparently was recently divorced at this time as a member of their group. She and Gavin McLeod actually reunited and got remarried. I wonder how the other ladies felt about that.
My ex divorced me, told everyone even our kids that I filed for divorce. Liar. Church shunned both of us. I ended up at a church of many divorced people so they were very nice to me. Got a lot of support.
I dont feel sorry for them. I went through a divorce in 1991 and didnt have a job. I had to go on welfare until I went back to college and then got a job. It was a struggle financially raising 2 kids by myself. These women dont know the reality of financial struggles.
If you have a daughter, encourage her to get an education FIRST before she gets married!
" Pain is Pain is Pain is Pain "
Yes it's quite different when you get no alimony.
It's not all about money. It's about betrayal. If money is all you think about. Good luck.
Some of these women were the "other woman". They lost them the same way they got them. Marilyn Funt is one. She looks like she'd be impossible to live with.
These ladies were/are bright and articulate. Jackie is still living (90 years old!) Billie and Lynn have passed.
I aapreciate this show now as a divorced woman now than when I saw this as a teen in college dating my boyfriend and he became my hubby in 1986 and we divorced in 1999
Jackie Joseph 84 remarried in 2003 but 84 Ken Berry has never remarried as far as the reports. Billie Jean Campbell passed at age 53. That's fairly young. Glen Campbell went on to remarry of course and passed in 20174. Glen Campbell was 81. He out lived her by 32 years. Lynn Landon had a total of 7 kids, Michael Landon had 9 kids. It's reported that she passed in 2015. Marilyn Funt, Allen Funt wife passed in 2013. Marilyn Funt did write a book called Are You Anybody? Conversations with Wives of Celebrities. Jackie Joseph is the only one still live out of these 4 ladies. Marriage helps you live longer ladies.
More often, children and grandchildren.
Yasmin E Thanks for the info on these folks. I have always wondered what happened to all these ladies. I remember back in the 70's when Glen and Billie Jean and Michael and Lynn went thru their divorces. I remember how shocked I was to hear about Michael and Lynn, they had always created the illusion of having a perfect marriage and perfect family for the tabloids and interviewers. It's hard to say who was at fault in that one. After the divorce Lynn and several other celeb wives whose husbands had dumped them for younger women, seemed to have formed some group and went around doing a lot of talk shows, and I still remember how angry and bitter they all seemed. That was becoming a way too common trend for men to do at that time. My own parents divorced a few years later and my father ended up marrying a woman 10 yrs. younger who was one of my Mom's best friends, and it was tough on her. They had been married 26 yrs. That kind of thing seemed like it was happening everywhere you looked in the late 70's, and it wrecked a lot of families with children. One of my worst memories of the 70's. Whatever Michael and Lynn's problems were, he definitely did her dirty by cheating on her with a younger woman. It forever changed my image of him as the decent, loving person I perceived him to be, from watching and loving Little House On the Prairie. He's lucky he didn't kill his career with that move. After that, I thought he just came off looking like a joke playing an angel in that next series he did. I never thought that would last like it did. I guess it says something about his talents as as actor. As far as a long life goes, I think it's a lot about being able to make lemonade out of lemons. If you stay angry and bitter about anything, even if you have a right to feel that way, it tends to create anxiety and depression - and that doesn't do a body good. I've heard Billie Jean had a lot of problems with drugs and alcohol and whenever I saw interviews with that group of women, Lynn came off as one of the most bitter of the ex-wives, really seemed to want the man dead and I thinks it's understandable. I heard his children went thru a lot of struggles after the divorce too, and had a hard time adjusting to what happened. I do think, like you said, that a good working marriage can help you live longer. Being in love and feeling supported in life's daily struggles, has to be good for the body. Seeing this show again was fascinating to me, as it's a little time capsule of what was going on in the late 70's in marriages. I was still a teenager when I first saw this episode, seeing it now in my 50's definitely puts things in a different perspective. I remember thinking at the time, why can't they just get over it? Being in my 50's now and having gone thru a divorce myself, I understand where they're coming from a whole lot better.
Yikes, I believe that's true. And I never want to be married.
Yasmin E I have Marilyn Funt’s book. So sad she and Lyn Landon passed away; I had no idea.
The original Real Housewives. They are not as vain.
I can see what you're saying! Hummm🤨
They say 20 years is the average lifespan of a marriage.
these women are class acts
Christine Mills perhaps Lynn knew what Michael was up to.
@@janeyd5280 Bet these were mostly party girls married to party guys. Those that ask the guys to go when they had not cheated were to blame for there own mess.
Personally this show made me laugh when I watched it when aired and watching it again made me laugh harder.
Lucky you.
Damn He had the best hair back then & now compared to many celebs!
Crotch itch was the best caller!!!! LOL
In the case of Ken Berry, he had to divorce Jackie Joseph because he obviously was never able to get a word in edgewise.
😂
I really like Jackie Joseph!
Me too
Lynn Landon began an affair w/Michael during season 2 of Bonanza, 1957. Landon was married to his first wife until 1962. Lynn expected to be treated differently? Cheater got cheated on. Seems fair.
wadayaduin Same with Marilyn Funt.
Very true. What goes around comes around. ♻️
Ob damn I never knew this yhx
Yes, at first he lied to her about being married. When she found out that he was still married, she broke it off, but resumed the relationship once he convinced her that he was leaving his wife. I read this in a book written by her daughter whom Michael later adopted. What goes around comes around. God help him, but Michael got his too after cheating on not one but two wives! To her credit, she became a born again Christian and apologized to his first wife for her role in the breakup of that marriage.
Justin Aames indeed, written by her. At best a little lax on fact-checking his marital status. Such things are too important for taking action based on wishful thinking. At worst, she’s full of shit.
I’m old enough to remember this particular show. Michael Landon’s wife in particular. That was a shocker
I loved the bumper music going in and out of commercials when he was in Chicago.