" This is Fine " - WoW Community's Reaction to 'Raid Ready' Boost
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Its marketed as raid ready boost, they're just questing greens for your boosted characters lol.
yeah I'm baffled at peps actually buying that lmao. Even the lvl boost itself is worthless like bruh there's peps posting their 1-70 in x hours every day.
@@SH4D0WBattousai it's probably for newer people or returning players that want to just get in there and raid/pvp/m+
Hell i returned to wow after 10 years, had my character leveled up to cap and half ass raid ready within a few days(I was taking my time with the questing) Not one single guild will put your raid ready boosted toon on their core teams xD hell even alt teams. they will assume you barely know what autoattack is and bam now you play alone anyway and stop playing within 2 weeks at best xD@@RDFrosty7645
Imagine spending money on a character boost, when instead you can spend the same amount on Elden Ring or Armored Core
I got elden ring and ac6. Then i got a boost.
imagine caring what other people do with their money. what reason could you possibly have for that huh?
Retail players are so cooked in their heads they think is is normal. I don't give a shit what people do with their money, I still think it's completely stupid to buy shit like that when you also could just... play the video game you already payed for? Besides. This game isn't an RPG anymore. Nothing is of any significant meaning anymore. Imagine buying an AQ40 geared raid ready boost so you can go and do Naxx. Bro. What is this shit. Play the fucking game.
For the $180 annual sub (assuming you stay monthly), a boost and a couple cosmetics, I instead picked up AW2, BG3 and about 2 dozen older titles.
ActiBlizzard has lost their minds almost as much as *some of* their customers have 😂
It doesn't "concern" me how others spend their money, no, but it does impact the game as a whole when spending becomes a truly viable and often more efficient ($$$/time wise) option.
You can ignore the boosts, but the impact it has on the game has an impact on how people act and play.
If WoW is too expensive for you, or not fun enough to justify the purchase, don't buy or play it, it's that simple. If you want to buy BG3 instead of a character boost, that's your personal choice that you are free to make. Boosts have been here for a while and aren't going anywhere. It's blatantly obvious that the player base buys them frequently, so you are the minority here complaining about them.
Next thing they gonna sell is a lifetime ban to the game. To prevent addiction.
That's a bad idea, man... The yacht... Think about the yacht.
p2w in a pay2play game with microtransactions ... great , i'm so not looking forward to the future
That's not a Micro, it's a Macro transaction.
Probably more then 120 euros a year depending on your sub plan. Then there's the added cost of an Xpac every ~2 years. So it's probably closer to about 130-150 euro's a year if you don't buy sub on a annual basis.
yall act like $120 for 2 years of enjoyment is a bad cost
Its just sad.. remember guys, was just cosmetics. (AND SELL COSMETICS IN A SUB GAME ITS NOT OKAY)
What are you winning exactly? Every time I hear pay to win I laugh at how stupid it sounds. These players are not winning anything by paying to do lfr 😂😂 nor are the people crying about how they spend their money. Going Reeeee in the comments and bitching and moaning about it does nothing.
i refuse to believe this is a human being^
not a WoW player but a casual FFXIV player who just started Endwalker. What is the difference really here between this and a job level skip in XIV? Yeah the job level skips only go to the max level of the last expansion but they also give you the best tomestone gear of that level too. So for example if I buy the lvl80 job level for idk.. paladin, I'll receive the ilvl530 gear as well which is enough to clear most content except for maybe savage and ultimates (never done these so idk). Not here to say what Blizzard is doing is fine. I just want to understand if this is a new level of crap or if it's very much similar but people don't mind in XIV since it's not blizzard.
From playing both games, I would say that the ffxiv job skip is way more "catch up" , max level in ffxiv took me 2 entire weeks playing like a mad man , and 530ilv gear would take a little bit to get through grinding tombstones. But this " boost" in wow includes the next expansion + gives you max lvl , then the gear it gives its like equivalent to something like 450ilv in ffxiv. Also leveling in wow nowadays takes like maybe 5-10 hours depending on if you powerlevel or not.
It might be enough to do old savages and ultimates if you have a group to take you but you'll still have to get to 90, finish the 6.0 MSQ and gear up in order to do current Endwalker content. I guess the closest equivalent would be if FFXIV offered a skip that boosted you to 90 with 6.0 complete plus a set of normal quality green crafted gear or the previous tier's tomestone gear or something like that.
It's difficult to compare because leveling to max and getting "raid ready" can be a hundreds-of-hours ordeal in FFXIV just because so much is tied to MSQ completion.
@@kaye507 but the gear in this WoW example seems to be barely enough for the easiest kind of raid as well. While the current job skip gives you 530 gear which nearly makes regular eden raids and the Yorha Alliance Raids obsolete difficultywise. Yeah it's not current content but the way XIV is designed it's still actively played "old" endgame content. I think you can could do a few ARR and HW Extremes solo unsynced with the job skip gear.
XIV boosts get raid ready for content that is no longer current. It's effectively max level and item level cap, for the previous expansion. You'll always land 10 levels below the required level for the current expac's endgame content. And unless you haven't completed the MSQ, those last 10 levels are gonna take some decent grinding to hit max level.
For instance, in ShadowBringers, the max level you could buy a skip to was level 70, the max cap and Ilvl cap for Stormblood. Doing the first ShB dungeon in level 70 tome gear (Which is what you get for buying a skip) will at the very least, let you survive probably one big mob pull if your healer isn't absolutely cracked at their job. Trying to wall to wall pull with that gear will get you decimated pretty damn quick. By the time you hit the second dungeon and you're trying to rely on level 70 you're basically a walking punching bag.
There's also the added bit of still needing to learn what your job is and how it's skills work.
@@hisdudeness1835The point of the skip isn't for normal raids or alliance raids. You're still not exactly up to snuff for current savage or current raid content in general. That's what makes the XIV skip more tolerable, that and the fact that the community largely disavows using it as well.
I have a friend that wants me to play wow bc I'm a ffxiv player and every time I open up youtube I see some reason to never invest in wow lol
The amount of micro transactions are getting close to the free to play garbage mmos. I can't believe they can really justify nowadays a monthly payment.
Wow hasn’t meant anything to me since WoD came out and was dog shit. Idc what they do to its corpse.
thats because the end of the expansion is very near, it doesnt matter anymore since we are in the last season
I can never take the wow community seriously, their game is filled with pay to win in the worst way possible via the wow token. You can literally buy gold and then buy carries or gear with said gold, then they complain about boosts and the store and yada yada but all it took was for Chris Metson to come on stage for everyone to forget how horribly they are being treated. I completely agreed with your opinion on the downfall of Bungie with Destiny but if you play Wow after all of this then you and every other wow player deserve it.
The game was always Pay2Win. Since forever WoW allowed those with enough money to get ahead because the game had a trading system. Bots, Gold sellers, Blizzard it doesn't matter who gets the money in the end - if you pay you get ahead. Same rings true for other MMOs. While XIV never sells you gold directly the gold sellers are still there. And with how the crafting system is designed you can get a full set of Raid Ready gear without an issue (as crafters get the ability to make an equivalent of previous tier best gear in between patches). Hell they also sell story progression and level boosts.
Thats only if you see getting gear as “winning”. I see “winning” as completing hard content you struggled with in the past. Its all perspective.
@@jackmango5603 It's all about moving the goal post and mental gymnastics.
Sad thing is ppl would pay this without a second thought.
Well what to say, to many content creators are in an abusive relation and always come back when Blizzard claims to have changed and gifts some flowers. Oh and than pays the bill for the flowers with your credit card.
Not sure what's more sad, the fact that Blizzard is saying "pay us the cost of a whole game so you can skip playing most of a whole game" or the fact that there are also people willing to pay that after already paying for the whole game + sub to begin with. Stop giving this company money or they'll keep pulling shit like this. Affecting their bottom line is the only way to see change in a company that only cares about their bottom line.
i mean i know yall hate hearing this, but there is a market for this shit. i imagine most of the people that will buy this are people like myself, who would love to jump in and raid, but haven't played most/any of the expansion.
they wouldn't sell something if there wasnt demand for it, and precedent that it will sell.
Just because it sells doesn't mean it's good for the game or the experience. Pay to progress sells just as much as pay to win and that rakes in stupid amounts of money for the mobile game industry. Paying for WoW tokens to buy carries is a huge amount of income for Blizzard too. If you really want WoW to move fully towards the mobile P2W model, sure go ahead and make excuses for the practice. I'm sure Blizzard would love to see more of what Diablo Immortal brought in.
@@redisadork4952 you're getting world quest equivalent gear. this is literally no different than what has been offered for over a decade, and yall are freaking out about it.
The point went so far over your head it might as well have been in orbit. If it were that little of a deal it wouldn't be a thought to just play the game you've already paid for instead. Enjoy your progressively more P2W MMO though.
@@redisadork4952 please explain to me how getting the same exact level of gear we've gotten for a decade makes this p2w
ill wait
It was marketed by both someone who doesn't understand the game and someone who understand the game and has a bottom line to meet. That said; like you said, as a returning player with thousands of hours of end game raiding behind me; I'll likely do this for my alts... AFTER I get to 70 with at least one toon. I'm casual so not a big deal, but I understand how this is a huge slap in the face while also being a tweak in the eyes.
Compare this to like Moon Rise or some of the mobile games, or even Hero Wars. It's a pretty easy pill to swallow to get access to content which could take weeks or months to otherwise get into.
It is NO substitute for LEARNING the new trees through blood sweat and wipes in PUG dungeons.
And yes, I just moved a WOTLK/CAT end game druid from the remapped up to 70 only in dungeons except for the needed quests to get dragonflight so I wouldn't be waltzing around on the ground and behind all the time on one specific dungeon... grrr. *WHY DID THEY DAKE OUR FLIGHT FORM AWAY*
welcome to the Algorithm. I just put the value of this boost to test by Leveling a new toon and gearing to 424........Took 2 days of play equivalent to 13 hours time played......... The in-game catch-up makes the gear worthless. AND is crap you can already buy via crafters and WoWTokens.,...... Boosts in themselves is a war we lost YEARS ago............i think the Renown would be the biggest value of this 'raid ready boost' that makes it unique compared to other pre-order boosts(once the next expansion is available for pre-order the boost has always been updated to current patch content to dive right into the newest stuff.)
When I see that, I don't think "Oh ok, so I'd be ready to raid."
I think "That's more than I paid for AW2." 😂
It's a GREAT deal for a gold farmer who doesn't want to waste time and electricity setting up more bots.
Also, ebay wasn't cheaper than these boosts, good toons went for $200+ back in the day from what I recall.
Yeah, this is the reason I no longer play Retail version of World of Warcraft.
And once my guild is done with Wrath of the Lich King Classic, I'll quit supporting Blizzard entirely. I have no interest continuing in Cataclysm Classic nor Classic+ Era.
13€/month should be more than enough to keep this game afloat, but nah, Blizzard cannot keep it in their pants and they have to squeeze every penny out from us. And only because they want to achieve that infinite growth, so that they can keep their share holders and investors happy.
Yeah, no thanks. I'm out once Wrath Classic is done.
i mean hey... if retail players dont have a backbone then that just means retail gets all the microtransactions while vanilla wow stays true and microtransaction free because unlike retail classic player can just jump to private server if they fuck up
obviously joking but lets talk about how liky best in slots boost are shall we...
when gold farmers was problem what did blizzard do?
wow token
when third party lvling sites was a problem what did blizzard do??
their own lvl boost
and right now again on third party websites people pay real money for glad boosts and mythic raid boosts and so with how blizzard "fixed" the issues before... what... will... blizzard... do...
Activition clearly did not change too much on how bungie fucks with their playerbase so why the fuck should blizzard be any diffreind without proper denial from the community
classic player has private servers
retail players... nothing but copium
people are paying for base game, sub and defending absolutely mind boggling in game purchases thats basically a scam IN A FUCKING MMO? 🤠🔫
There is not an argument otherwise, the game is objectively worse than it ever was. I quit years ago now, but it is absolutely hilarious watching everything come true anyone with a brain predicted a long time ago. You give them an inch, they are gonna take a mile. There is a new monetization avenue every month or some shit now. This is a subscription, box cost game, how much shit will you morons actually let them charge you for? lmao...
They should make WoW 2 on mobile exclusively. Far more fitting at this point.
im glad I dropped at BFA and switched to GW2. the 120 a year sobered me up from trying the next xpack.
of the people, for the people, by the people...
then you realize that most of the people are stupid...
so here we are right now... normalize boost
when 3rd party doing the boost = bad!!! insane!!! shameless!!
when blizz doing the boost = it's reasonable!!!, dont buy it if you dont want to!!!, it's not a problem!!!
Who in their right mind would buy this? I mean, it's 60 euros, for crying out loud! There are so many better games this money could buy during a Steam sale.
Im levelling a hunter to 70 - enjoy the past expansions. Then when im 70 im gna buy this just for the reagent and inventory bags. Because i have a job
People thought it would be better under Microsoft, haha. It will be even worse...
Boost comes with all versions of the expansion as well?
So everybody is doing it! Can't be any issue right??
Saw Asmon bring up your tweet earlier today.
You're 100% on point. While it's not a big deal we need to stop it now before it becomes a big deal. People should understand that as long as they can sell you gear they will.
Even if it's not this current game team (which has been kicking butt with dragonflight) before you know it, when people leave and others come in if they see it's okay they'll try to push the envelope.
Oh come on! is not a bad thing when you are at the end of the current expansion! who cares! it will be irrelevant in days!
This is why even after Microsoft takes over we say we need a WoW arr approach. Not just story but restructuring in development team by a leader that wants to change for the better and I doubt it will ever happen.
In the current age the only leaders they hire are diversity hires, so wouldn't count on good leadership
It's funny you mention ARR, I don't see videos or outrage like this about any of FFXIV MTX/Boosts
@@tbone8644 Never going to be a fan of level boosts and microtransactions in a subscription game, though it's still a bit different to this situation here if I'm understanding it correctly. FF14 lets you pay extra to skip the story up to the start of the latest expansions, or buy job boosts to that level (80 of 90).
Compared to WoW you can't just power level and start wherever you want, you have to follow the MSQ from the beginning because it's one coherent story, so in that respect it's a pretty big time saver, though I don't get why anyone would buy them for their first playthrough personally.
@@tbone8644 my stance same as rui all max in any game is bad but not as bad as World of Warcraft that started from a sparkle horse.
Put the game down and never look back. Enough people did that to Destiny 2 and look at what’s happening
If u hate the game so much, just stop playing! is that simple! no one is forcing you bro. geez...
I had resubbed last month... and now they pull this shit up. Just cancelled my sub again... sigh
This isn’t fking new. This was already given when pre purchased War within.
the funny part is you can level from 1-70 in a couple hours. super easy i did it twice. and you get 424 gear in early mythics. so super strange to sell it because you dont need it. save your moola
what if i value my time more than i value the $60?
@@jorzuzu1169 then you wouldnt waste it on a game, where you pay 60$ for items that trash in this patch and useless in the next patch.
@@1001pierre okay hear me out. not all of us have played all expansion. some of us would be using this as a return to the game. a catch up mechanic, as its intended. not all of us nolife the game and would rather have the ability to just jump in and see SOME content, even if it is LFR for now. Some of us would rather do that than the same shitty leveling grind that we've had for a decade+.
@@jorzuzu1169 Blizzard shouldnt cater to people like you, because like you said, you didnt play the game.
@@1001pierre so they should offer absolutely nothing to new or returning players?
you know absolutely nothing about game design. stfu lmao
Feels like they are going ESO route free to play soon or b2p
guys, dont you have WALLETS?
they should rename this game , its disgrace to warcraft
I am shocked wow is still going tbh. They are quickly playing catch up with wow classic to becoming current wow. So what happens when they overlap? Gonna have another campaign to roll back again? Lol
In a past video of yours about wow shenanigans, I commented about it and some people would not stop arguing that pay for convenience and pay to win are different. Completely ignoring the point that it's all terrible. So it doesn't matter.
But they just can't comprehend it for some reason. I'm starting to see why Asmon just gave up back in the day, and just says shit eaters will eat shit now. Hope the ever dwindling fanbase of wow continues to enjoy that shit.
this is the equivalent to world quest gear (which has always come with a boost). you're making the assumption they're going to make the jump from world quest level loot, to bis. that's an absurd leap.
also, your whole rant about this being a sub based game is completely moot when most people just fork over the gold to get a token and literally play for free.
edit: also, you act like $120 for a year of enjoyment isn't a solid deal. that's more value than i've gotten out of any AAA game in the last decade.
Most players don’t pay for their subs with gold actually. And also you’ve been playing the wrong AAA games.
@@RurikhanUnleashed maybe anecdotal, but literally every member of my raid group pays their sub with gold, so maybe that's why i made the assumption most players do.
also, what AAA game have you played that has given you literally thousands of hours of enjoyment?
I've played pretty much every major release in the last decade, and none of them have that kind of longevity. MAYBE skyrim? that's about it tho, and is over the decade old that I initially said.
Ruri you are letting your hatred get the best of you. This boost doesnt sell any gear. Is the label "raid-ready" a scam? Yes it is. But it really doesnt sell you gear. What do you expect from a boost? Have you in level 1 white gear?Should I go to Legion as a fresh 70 to farm my gear then?
And im reading the comments and you have made people that they can buy this boost and go raid mythic...disgusting man...
I would just like to point out you literally called this micro transaction a scam, and in the same breath defended it’s existence.
And somehow I’m responsible for people thinking ‘raid ready’ means raid ready?
Also I was very clear in the video that you can’t do that.
@@RurikhanUnleashed I don't defend its existence. Its a boost, like any boost used to be. Its just advertised to be something more than what it really is. But it doesn't sell gear like you say. Not really
Boost : Literally Gives you a full set of 424 gear.
You : it doesn’t really sell gear.
@@RurikhanUnleashed LFR and Emerald Dream questline gives you 450. 424 ilvl is NOT "raid-ready". Thats where the "scam" on my comment goes. It is false information. You are NOT raid-ready with that,you will even struggle doing WQs in Zaralek and Emeral Dream! You are not even mythic zero ready!
That ship has long sailed. In Shadowlands you could drop $400~600 on WoW tokens, go to the auction house and get a heroic level BoE in almost every slot, which is a lot better than what that boost gives you. Retail WoW is pay to win and it has been for a while.
That said I'm not sure that monetizing catch up gear (because that's essentially what it's selling) is as much of a win as Blizzard's bean counters might think because it fast forwards returning players to the end during a content draught that will last a year. The last thing they should do is kill the content they already have.
Congratulations you realized the ultimate truth in MMOs that allow for players selling their wares to other players - if you have gold you can advance faster. Been true in WoW since forever, been true in XIV where a skilled crafter can sell you raid ready set of gear, is true effectively everywhere. And whether the token's there or not you'll always win through your wallet since none of those games is free from bots and Gold sellers that manage them. Shit's not unique to WoW. The real difference is only in who gets the money.
@@Jaquan018FF14 doesn't sell gold though?
@@wiziek like he said "the only difference is who gets the Money". In WoW its allowed to buy Gold with Real Money via Token. In FF14 its forbidden....but it doesnt change the fact that there is a Black Market for it. You could even argue if the Story and Level Skips in FF14 are also official P2W since you save a lot of Time. But you still have to do all the current Expansion until you reach the Endgame so you still have to put lot of effort in it.
That wasn't even the worst part. In SL you could do that to get a glad title along with the highest PvP gear rewards. Even mythic raiders were just being boosted by their friends and were publicly admitting it because that's how they got their gear. Even someone from the RWF winners for 9.0 was also an AWC competitor, and boosted all his guildies to glad to get ahead in gear.
And then ofc you could also do that to buy a CE carry.
If buying gear/character power isn't p2w then I don't even know what p2w is anymore.
If I had the time and drive, I could join a mythic raid and eventually get mythic raid gear. I don't have the time or interest, so being able to buy mythic gear would just be paying for convenience and saving time instead of having to put in the work, right?
What are you talking about? 424 ilvl is the absolute minimum needed to get into LFR. This isn't buying power.
Apologies, I should have clarified; when I said "buying power" here, I meant paying money to have a characters ilvl go up.
@@Aerokus You can get the same exact gear, or better, from just doing the Emerald Dream campaign, which takes like an hour tops. You aren't buying power.
You're absolutely right about gear acquisition effort and alternatives. That said, my definition of buying power remains "paying money to make a characters ilvl go up". Thereby, regardless of alternatives, I view it as buying power. Your definition of buying power seems different from mine, and that's okay.
@@Aerokus You don't need to explain what your definition is. I already got it. The point here is that your definition is meaningless in this context. 424 ilvl is literally the bare minimum ilvl for the season. No power is gained from having it. It's square 1 on the board. It's so irrelevant that Blizzard should have never even mentioned it in their add. They only did so to take advantage of noobs. Which is the actual problem here.
facts. they are so slaved to p2w. sad, players look and go its raid ready.
player>gear. gear dont make one raid ready. the player does. time. skills. min max.
People seems to forgot that even if Blizzard doesn't work under Bobby anymore, but Mike "You guys got paid too much" Ybarra is still a CEO.
you already can buy gear and carries. buy wow token, sell it and use the gold for carries
just blizzard taking out the middle man. which is gross since I don't think carries should be allowed
I'm going to repost the comment I leaved on the Asmon video
I played wow last month for the first time since MoP, I didn't even pay for the expansion just the membership to mess around and do stuff, I looked up a guide for fast leveling and ended up 60 in a couple of days with a Undead Holy Priest and some days later a Tauren Windwalker monk. I really enjoy wow's group combat system, it's the best it can offer. While I had to nerd up and look up for guides, macros, addons and setup the UI correctly, when that was done I had a blast doing dungeons as both a Healer and DPS, trying to optimize my actions, sometimes save the wipe with some good healing timings.
After that I keep mess around trying to collect toys and do professions for money making but after playing that month I said that's enough. My problem with wow is that aside the last expansion there is no real progression to the account aside cosmetics or achivements, and after the new expansion comes out it all gets deleted and it's time to start all over again. I'm aware it was always like this but with all these boosts and shit and also that expansions are going to come more frequently, wow feels like FOMO money scam "Try these awesome raids before you start to one shot them solo next month!". It's like people who play this game for years without stop have a stockholme syndrome with Blizzard eating al the shit they throw at them.
I'm saying this from the perspective of a OSRS fan, where sure it's the most time sink shit you could imagine but I know if I comeback to my account by only paying for subscription, no bs microtransactions and boosts, my skills and equipment will still be a relevant floor to do the more recent quests, raids, events, etc, with the difference in wow that my time is completely wasted. You can argue that wow has other content that is not progress focus like Roleplay and I get it, it looks interesting but my main argument holds still for the Main game and I don't feel my money is well spent on a wow subscription, if I wanted to roleplay I would play DnD, VRChat or even GTA, if I really wanted to play wow I will just stick to pirate servers, or who knows, maybe the next expansion will invalidate my points.
oh man another person who doesn't play WoW shitting on the game.
These assumptions I don’t play WoW are hilarious.
Bruh if you clear some +5s you get that IL. If you get the conquest gear without upgrades youre past that by like 30 ILs. Honestly I don't even understand how these things are marketable since the SL revamp on lvling. You can lvl up a character in a day, heirlooms are not even a thing there are no pre-requisites. Even if you're rich and couldn't care less about money you're buying about 6 hours of PvE progression, maybe 8, for $60. I even look at blizz in good eyes for this because they clearly didn't make the best marketing decisions to enforce the purchase of boosts ergo keep the absolutely insufferable lvling pace BFA had. Like if I had to go through that shit show I'd seriously consider buying boosts, but it couldn't be more of a breeze now honestly.
To be fair though, you literally get this boost with the base TWW expansion and it's been that way since Blizzcon so there's that, not to mention every single expansion has given you a boost with world quest level gear as well which is what this is, this is no different than that, it's just the naming that is different, you can't get into a normal raid without at least 450 ilvl and pretty much no one is gonna look at you for any kind of endgame shit, heroic dungeons give you better gear the classic Blizzard releases a 70 boost with world quest level gear at the end of an expansion that we've been dealing with for years, which even that's not entirely cuz some basic quests and world events just give you 450 gear off the bat
Dude looks like a withered
so glad i resisted Metzen's honeyed words and didnt pre order
I didn't and I bought Dragonflight :( Played it little and went back the the other games.
You are asking boiled and salted lobster to feel outraged about feeling a bit hot.
Is this really true?
I'm glad they went from dancing around technically "pay to win" to just embracing it. The excuses and justifications were getting old.
A boosted character will have no idea how to play their class. It's pretty stupid
You should really stop acting like WoW's raids are hard.
Take away add ons and most players in the game would fail content they had on farm for months. People just have DBM and other add ons to do all the work and thinking for them. So yeah, the boost is raid ready. You get to 70, download the mods, have your hand held by the add ons all the way through the content that's supposed to be hard but ends up being trivialized by the add ons.
Also, I'm an extremely casual player. I spend more time playing single player games these days than MMOs. The funny thing about this boost is that it would place me further along in the game than my highest geared character. But do note that I do not raid, I do not enjoy it. I've done it in past expansions and learned that it's not for me. I rarely do dungeons in WoW because of how toxic the community tends to be. I don't PvP either, for that same reason.
Dude chill. It's not pay to win, its pay to lose. Most new players quit not because of leveling or gearing, but because the game has layers of difficulties no gear can compensate for. Even they sold BIS for some reason, players who suck would still suck.
Soo it's an upgrade to the char boost we already have...who cares though? What you skip a few hrs or grinding at max lvls and the rest is meh. Guess people need something to be mad over lol, i'm far more pissed that my new Night Elf city is "neutral".
I still watch content about WoW because I care about WoW, even though I shouldn't.
I really don't understand all the hate against the service itself, nobody forces you to do it and nobody takes away anything from you.
Now, if you earn pretty good money but consequently have less time for gaming but want to reroll or whatever - this stuff is good.
HOWEVER the cost of this specific boost and the fact they are calling 424 raid ready is just spitting in our faces.
Just out of curiosity, what happens to the person who’s working two jobs just to make ends meet and can’t afford the boost? Fuck’em?
I'm pretty sure you can get lvl 441 gear by completing the campaign. I skipped season 2 and didn't play much of season 1. I started playing again in 10.2, and the requirements for PUG groups for the new raid on Normal was 440 gear on day 1
It's still insane to me that they call it "seasons" now in order to justify that the older content is now worthless. Retail is so bad.
Im agreeing 100% with you. Correct me if Im wrong, the Raid Ready Boost is also part of The War Within - Base Edition.
The boost is bad but your wow takes are worse
Care to elaborate which takes you had issue with?
He says he has problems with people looking up the meta but he himself is a UA-camr giving out tips for the games he plays it’s not an addon problem it’s a gamer problem
@@silvestre93ify it's a game problem.
Wait… that’s your problem? When have you seen me make meta guides on literally any game?
I didn’t say you make meta video you get mad for people watching and making them
We as players have some degree of culpability on this. All I have to do is look at the lengths people in Season of Discovery go through to destroy their own fun and enjoyment of the game.
I just wanted to look what's the difference between this boost and the one given with the new expansion prepurchase.
There is no difference.
“Fools are easily parted from their money” That’s a really good quote. “If you polish a turd it’s still a turd”… No matter how you phrase this to make yourself believe what you’re saying… Still doesn’t change the “FACT” that this is Pay To Win.
pay to win a laughable amount of time, but yeah. I stay with the first phrase of your comment more than anything though. This would only be justified if your time is worth thousands per hour.
This is a pretty good example of why people that don't play WoW, and haven't for years, should really talk about WoW.
This is just the "new expansion upgrade" to the boost. For the final patch, they upgrade the boost to be max level and give you some shitty starter gear that lets you jump into LFR. That's it. And then that boost becomes the current boost, where you are 10 levels below the new expansion's max level until the following expansion's final patch.
I played last year. I just find it interesting everyone is happily lining up to pay $60 for a boost in a premium game that also charges you a $15 monthly fee.
Blizzard literally gives you a problem, sells you the solution at a premium and no one questions “why does this cost $60 again?”
@@RurikhanUnleashed Playing a little bit a year ago doesn't mean you know what you are talking about, and it's clear that you don't.
The only thing new about this boost is the way they marketed it. Which is the actual problem with it because in no way does this boost actually get anyone raid ready. It just lets you start queuing for LFR immediately.
Again, this is the same sort of boost they've added to the game for years now. Since they've added them to the pre-order bonuses, in fact. You are literally years late to the party to complain about this now.
@@Xynth22
Its a trash mmo and its dying. You doing a great job defending them killing this game. Keep at it, and one day WoW will be dead. Keep paying them 15 and buy whatever boost they gonna innovates like a damn idiot.
@@asain3586 You don't even know what my point is, so shut the hell up.
this is the same boost the came with the early acess if you look into it
As someone who has never played a blizzard game I thought I would never understand why people keep playing WOW. I recently had someone I know pass away due to years of drinking and now I understand.
this concept does not exist just in WoW. its an addiction, and it takes forms in many ways. For gamers, one form is a game they love to play. And no mater how bad the devs make it, that gamer will stand by it and make up stories and narratives in their head as to why its still good
Pay to win for the win!
Jesus blizzard sussy, diablo 4 not respecting gamer time and then being greedy? Totally sussy
9:10 lmao no brainer, sadly it's true
10:57 agreed he has no idea
People do DPS to skip mechanics
11:43 cringe
12:19 blizzard heavy into Pay to Win
think its 156$ a year for me. i leveled an alt in wotlk just to run GDKPs so i can just buy wow tokens. one gdkp is usually enough for me to buy 2-3 wow tokens. 2 weeks ago, a guy dropped 800$ on heroic death bringers will. then someone else dropped about 400$ on foreign object so i got about 7 wow tokens that night.
First thing i did was close the launcher and open youtube to see what people are saying about this shit. I hope noobs do waste their money. then never play again because no guild will EVER put you on a raid team. at that point just go do GDKP runs man, thats even less scummy than this... Thank you for maintaining your dignity my guy. Also subbed lol didnt realize i never hit the button
Imagine if Blizzard starts making renown grindier or have bosses drop less gear? What if they offer BiS for sale right before a new tier comes out? They control the convenience, you can not trust them to not take advantage of it.
I started playing recently and getting 424 is so easy to reach that I dont see it as a gameplay/"unfair" problem, just a "greedy" problem but that's nl surprise
It's remarkable how the game,... Blizzard keep getting worse and worse, they really keep sinking deeper and deeper into the cesspool. The most despicable feature added for WoW yet. So glad i'm done with Retail and all the crap. Not only their game design and content design sucks, they now add this.
Oh no, the boost that's launching you to the last content... Where have I seen it? Oh right, XIV has those too, GW2 has those... WoW had those since MoP? Warlords of Dreanor? Keep forgetting that. And if it's about the gear... You realize that you can likely buy better stuff from Auction House? Hell with the way crafting is designed you can order better stuff from a Crafter if you pay enough. And the players have been doing that since forever. Even in classic before WoW token dropped and likely even after you could just use real money to buy gold from resellers. (Spoiler alert you can do that in XIV as well, they're less numerous but they exist)
I'd be more Mad at this if they Hadn't been selling Boosts for over ten years. They've had these Since Cata. (BTF I was mad when they came out but i've had a long time to get over it.) Also the boosts Always gave you gear etc
My retail playing friends had the audacity to defend this because '424 gear is nothing, you are just a blizzard hater' Damn right I am when they do shit like this
The game is officially pay to win. Sad, what its become. Idk if this is meant to bring people back but i stopped playing a year ago and this only ensures i stay away. Its over.
I never understood the concept... why would I pay money to not play the game I just paid money for?
I lost respect for WOW players long ago with the WOW token. This is just icing on the cake.
424 is what you'd get for doing the latest campaign chapter; it saves about two or three hours, if that. It's money-grubby, but it's not undermining anybody's achievements or anything like that, retail is seasonal.
Defensive positions like this will make this worse and worse.
Massively pay 2 win.
i guess buying gold (wow tokens) werent enough.
I saw that today when I launched bnet. I'm so sorry for the retailers. I am ball deep in SoD taking my (dad)time and having a blast.
I was predicting (in BFA) that they would sell gear for 50 euros and change the client towards mobile with no cities just LFG screen and some mobile graphics since it would generate more money, who needs real players when you can attract "'gamers" lol (our guild had one player buying the AH mount with real money, I think that they quit the game after bfa).
Yup. This is about as smart as saying lets play a FPS and say you can win all your fights without using any weapons. Its in the damn game as part of the concept and if you don't like it go play another game. An MMO RTS doesn't need to rely on have leveling - look at Guild Wars - but most do level, and all carry some sort way to demonstrate progression of your character. If this is too much to handle an MMO is not meant for you. And there's no shame in any of that I'd rather spend a day outside in the sun then play a video game these days myself. But don't pretend you like a video game genre then want to skip - paid or otherwise - its core foundation.
This makes me appreciate the mmorpg I main more.
And discourages me to attempt to play WoW at all.
im so glad everyone had the sam reaction to the raid ready boost
Everyone? Rurikhan got his ass roasted on twitter lmao
I couldn't wait to buy this , that means i could try other classes 😂
Also ilvl 424 is a joke, your not getting invited to anything. It basicly saves you like 50k gold so you don't have to buy ilv 424 gear.
Its bad
Why.... Is this just NOW an issue? this boost was exactly like this since the pre-order for the war within came out.
Why does it matter? Maybe he just was made aware of it?
Oh no, absolutely! But everyone is suddenly making a massive deal about it when it's been like this for a while. So I'm... a bit confused is all?
You're 100% on point with how I feel with this stupid shit. I hate that I grew up with this game, this would be so easy to ignore and move on from if I didn't care about WoW, but as each year goes by it's getting easier and easier to just say fuck it to this game and blizzard and quit for good.
You should try xiv, not because it's xiv but to see another game , to change things a little
Don't rush just play at your rythme ,the 70 first level are free and you have shit tons of content to try
I feel you. Iv played since vanilla about a month after launch and I stopped playing about a year ago. This pay to win crap ensures I don't look back.
why is it ok for xiv to have mtx/boosts but not wow?
@@tbone8644 it's not okay, i still don't accept the shop
It's not accessible in game
But everything is very very optional
So, first off, I don't like that FF14 has mtx at all - that said the way they implement 90-95% of it is much better than how WoW does it. For comparison - all of WoW's MTX store items are exclusive to the store and can't be gained in game. In FF14, most of the store items are obtainable in game if you do the event quests during the time they are active. Once the event is over, they move to the shop a year later. Is it perfect? no, but at least you have a chance of not having to pay extra for those items. Secondly, there's no Token, so the in-game economy isn't affected by MTX to a large scale. As for the boosts, they suck and I don't agree with them in either game, but for FF14, if you buy a story skip, you are either missing the point of FF14 entirely or you're making a new character for whatever reason (most players don't as there is no need to) and want to skip content you already did. The reason this particular boost is so controversial is that it is advertising as being more than just a skip - it's advertising itself as raid ready with reputation gain included - FF14 boosts are much cheaper and the gear provided is not even Expert (heroic) level. Blizzard is positioning itself to start directly selling power to players - FF14 is only selling convenience that most players advise not using anyway. TLDR: both suck and in a perfect world both wouldn't exist but WoW has it much worse cause blizzard is greedy. @@tbone8644
When they made grinding a thing in mop this became inevitable. Blame Ion hazzigrindikostas