Douglas Murray - More Slaves Are Alive Today Than Ever In History

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  • Douglas Murray explains the history of slavery. Does Douglas Murray believe that more slaves are alive now than at any time in history? Why does no one care about China’s slave trade? Why does Douglas Murray think there is a war on the West?
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  • @ChrisWillx
    @ChrisWillx  2 роки тому +35

    Watch the full episode with Douglas - ua-cam.com/video/07PZ6fyS_Bo/v-deo.html

    • @oldpondfrog788
      @oldpondfrog788 2 роки тому +3

      Modern Scotland, and I know a chap that was offered work and when he got in the van was told "your f-d now"; hit over the head and taken to northern England where he was forced to work for a certain group of transient people.
      A number of big related cases were shortly in the news in the mid to late naughties.
      This goes on everywhere.

    • @josephgaines7496
      @josephgaines7496 2 роки тому

      llc

    • @raypurchase801
      @raypurchase801 2 роки тому

      Please view and give us your opinion about "2000 Mules".
      The smoking gun about how the 2020 election was stolen.

    • @ailediablo79
      @ailediablo79 2 роки тому

      The problem is racism/supremacy and in a way or another the west is still by neo-colonialism indirectly steeling the world. It is because in away or another the same stuff happening back then keep going today.
      The west banded slavery only when it is no longer profitable as technology of steam engine came. The difference is nowdays we slave machines. Eventhough that there is many working labor problems and exploitations. Also there is still slaves as you said.
      The game is still the same. It just evolved and changed name but all is very much almost the same crap.

    • @joegaleazzi9157
      @joegaleazzi9157 2 роки тому

      ,

  • @macclift9956
    @macclift9956 2 роки тому +390

    I breathe a sigh of relief when I see Douglas Murray; all is not lost. A big thank you to those who give him a platform.

    • @iviwemajola3167
      @iviwemajola3167 2 роки тому

      No France sloughterd around 10 million civillians in central Africa in the early 2 000 nds.Dont try to white wash Your attrocities this is just One example. Human traficing is Only in Libya, the country with the largest gold Reserves that you destroyed and looted. Slavery is far less prevelent now than it was in the 19th century where you enslave billions not thousends.

    • @macclift9956
      @macclift9956 2 роки тому

      @@iviwemajola3167 Look it up! HOW NORTH AFRICANS SOLD OVER 1 MILLION EUROPEAN SLAVES

    • @big4330
      @big4330 2 роки тому +12

      @@iviwemajola3167 wrong

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому

      hes a horrible person

    • @paddydunne814
      @paddydunne814 2 роки тому +4

      @@iviwemajola3167 wrong!!

  • @philipford6183
    @philipford6183 2 роки тому +252

    After slavery was abolished throughout the British Empire (1833), the British Empire went to war on the Arab slave trade (also known as the East African slave trade), and on slavery across much of the rest of the globe, including SE Asia. You won't hear the toxic left mention any of this. Who were the British fighting against? Who were the slavers and who were the slaves? It's been estimated that some 20,000 sons of Empire lost their lives attempting to stamp out slavery (and piracy, which was linked to slavery) around the world. The left has nothing to say about this. Just a sneer and a smirk.

    • @hollywoodisnthistory4890
      @hollywoodisnthistory4890 2 роки тому

      It doesn't fit the antiwhite narrative.

    • @iviwemajola3167
      @iviwemajola3167 2 роки тому +1

      Exeptions dont make the Rule. Practicly all the West was and always was for slavery of the Blacks. They would destroy any African Nation that opposed their influence on the continent and Arm those who do their biding. DIVIDE AND CONQUER. The middle east is a perfeft example the West backs, the Saudis and destabelizes the country for resources. Same tactics

    • @iviwemajola3167
      @iviwemajola3167 2 роки тому +1

      Slavery wasnt Abolished we over threw the OVER LORDS When they went bankrupt after ww2.

    • @shmoopoo8099
      @shmoopoo8099 2 роки тому +9

      @@Shlogger that's because everyone gets their info from random posts on the Internet.

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому

      The British literally colonized more than half the world. You must be delusional. The British Empire did not care about solving slavery. Stop literally making shit up. It stole trillions is resources from several continents.

  • @johanda2000
    @johanda2000 2 роки тому +132

    Nobody talks about the Barbary Slave Trade when Europeans were captured by the Muslim Barbary Pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East.

    • @royjacobs1204
      @royjacobs1204 2 роки тому +21

      White Gold is a good book on the subject, silenced a few Islington dinner party tables by using what I learned.

    • @johanda2000
      @johanda2000 2 роки тому +5

      @@royjacobs1204 Thanks for this tip.

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 2 роки тому +10

      In the southern part of Italy we have saracen towers. These were lookouts on the coast for the moor invasions that not only brought pillage, destruction, rape and death but also enslaved the locals.

    • @Fl3tch3r222
      @Fl3tch3r222 2 роки тому +9

      @@golDroger88 well ottomans also enslaved almost all of the balkan countries. There was slavery literally everywhere for hundreds of years, so everyone is guilty then

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 2 роки тому +7

      @@Fl3tch3r222 That is just what life was like at the time, pretty much miserable for everyone. Every major work had been built by slaves, even the Roman aqueducts we still use today.
      People need to study history and let go of hundreds years old events, this is a problem especially Americans have but unfortunately it's spilling over to Europe as well.

  • @dwbrannon
    @dwbrannon 2 роки тому +225

    One of the questions no one asks is, why did slavery become illegal all over the world? The answer is because of the spread of Western Civilization. After Western Nations rid themselves of slavery, they forced the rest of the world to do the same. One of the reasons Africans fought against colonization was because the Europeans outlawed the slave trade which had been part of the African culture for thousands of years. If Africans were oppressed they were also the oppressors, an idea apparently to complex for modern minds.

    • @burningmagyk4986
      @burningmagyk4986 2 роки тому +1

      *too

    • @Molari
      @Molari 2 роки тому +9

      Most other instances of slavery in the history was based on unpaid debts and prisoners of war, and those slaves could buy their freedom over time, or others could pay for them to be free. But the Slavery in the United States in the 18th and 19th century was especially heinous, even worse than what the Pharoah did to the Jews. This slavery was based on dehumanizing a race and making it impossible for those slaves to ever get freedom. They were considered unhuman, and were not even allowed to have their own living areas where they could develop any culture or pass down wisdom to children. They were treated as machines/animals. So its a bit of a stretch to give them credit for saving the world from slavery.

    • @andrewdawson5281
      @andrewdawson5281 2 роки тому +13

      @@Molari Not at all. Those against slavery imposed their will and through war and law, slavery was abolished.

    • @Daniloki2000
      @Daniloki2000 2 роки тому +15

      @@Molari Both types of slavery based on debt and war were just as cruel if not more than the transatlantic slave trade , the Barbary Slave Trade in North Africa for instance used to castrate the slaves so they would not reproduce. At the end of the day if you were a slave you were deprived of your natural rights as a human being, whether it is based on race, debt or war , the former is not any better than the latter.

    • @oliviermb7127
      @oliviermb7127 2 роки тому +1

      So one of the reasons African fought against the colonisation was because the foreigners wanted to abolish slavery... Do you know how life for the colonised population was? What are your sources?

  • @armyofthewolves
    @armyofthewolves 2 роки тому +130

    Ironically, one of the biggest reasons we are so obsessed with the legacy of western slavery today is that eastern slavery often disallowed procreation.

    • @harveythomasdolan1146
      @harveythomasdolan1146 2 роки тому +20

      Similarly, the only Holocaust camps we hear about are the ones where people survived. The more you think about it, the more horrific it is.

    • @eldictator1
      @eldictator1 2 роки тому

      Exactly.. the Arab world should be proportionally mostly black, they fail to mention they were castrated

    • @leecutler1527
      @leecutler1527 2 роки тому

      in the Arab slave trade, it was common place to castrate slaves aged 8. up to 80% of these boys bleed to death and that was only outlawed in the 1960s

    • @nickmaclachlan5178
      @nickmaclachlan5178 2 роки тому +7

      In some ways the Arabs had the right idea here, though it sounds a little on the harsh side. They had all the benefits of free labour, with none of the problems associated with having to integrate that unpaid workforce in to their own society and affecting their own gene pool. A generation dies and are gone forever, nothing left behind to show they even existed..........

    • @thedaviestdave7232
      @thedaviestdave7232 2 роки тому +1

      Boom

  • @BraedenTheG
    @BraedenTheG 2 роки тому +209

    “What lies behind you and what lies in front of you, pales in comparison to what lies inside of you.”
    - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    • @iurysl
      @iurysl 2 роки тому +1

      UA-cam has locked the 👍 bottom

    • @FromtheHerts81
      @FromtheHerts81 2 роки тому

      What a guy.

  • @wolfu597
    @wolfu597 Рік тому +18

    "Only we for the rest of time must repay a debt which it appears can never be paid down"
    Nicely put, Murray.

  • @cn240studios5
    @cn240studios5 2 роки тому +98

    Love listening to Douglas talk, the man cuts like a knife.

    • @zosukumakunene8761
      @zosukumakunene8761 Рік тому

      Yeah, A microwaving plastic butter knife!! Oh he cuts so deep!!😁😁

  • @louisfriend7388
    @louisfriend7388 2 роки тому +20

    As Sowell pointed out back in the 1970s Black civil rights leaders do not EVER protest modern slavery in Africa or Asia. Never. Ever. The narrative would be damaging to their “cause” at home.

    • @rexnemorensis8154
      @rexnemorensis8154 2 роки тому

      That's because there's no power to be gained in that pursuit. Domestic subversion by means of exploiting victim mentality and fomenting unrest is the aim, a response to the confusion of a lifestyle alien to their nature. Though they are free in reality they yet remain slaves in mind, like the Israelites wandering in the desert. The problem is that liberalism, through the now disproven behaviouralist rationale, expects all people to be able to adapt instantaneously to a civilisation which is alien to their blood, having no ancestral precedent for such a life. Wolves didn't become dogs overnight; how is it we can observe such things so easily in other species, and yet not in man?

    • @nothingnothing5183
      @nothingnothing5183 18 днів тому

      Because there is no real modern slavery in Africa. My father's side of the family is from Western Africa. It's just like most things out of a Westerns mouth, a big ass lie.

  • @sofiasbv7628
    @sofiasbv7628 2 роки тому +64

    Thank you Douglas for making the effort of learning and explaining all of this so clearly. Thank you Chris for creating the platform and sharing this.

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 2 роки тому +14

    Douglas is the man. So few truly honest intellectuals like him left.

  • @ekksoku
    @ekksoku 2 роки тому +25

    "Don't have to pay reparations, if you genocide" *taps forhead* - Arabian slavers looking to the future.

  • @RandomCarrot2806
    @RandomCarrot2806 2 роки тому +41

    One of the things that fuel a growing resentment in me is being blamed for an institution like slavery when it was my bloody ancestors that paid and fought to end it globally. And that's before mentioning that slaves sold to America were treated far better and more humanely than the ones sold to the middle east or countries in Africa that weren't colonized.
    It makes me think that if we are going to play this evil horrendous identity politics game, then what right does any other race have to the inventions and products of the West? If we are to blamed for the sins of our past, then you don't get to enjoy the products of our virtues.

    • @Molari
      @Molari 2 роки тому +4

      You are conflating 2 different things:
      1) You should not be blamed for anything anyone else did, your ancestors, your parents, anyone. Not being discriminated against is not privilege, it is your basic right. It is messed and wrong and racist how some people blame white people of today for what happened in the past (and its often other white people who do this).
      2) At the same time, you cannot pretend that what happened in the past was OK compared to the rest of the world. Most other instances of slavery in the history was based on unpaid debts and prisoners of war, and those slaves could buy their freedom over time, or others could pay for them to be free. But the Slavery in the United States in the 18th and 19th century was especially heinous, even worse than what the Pharoah did to the Jews. This slavery was based on dehumanizing a race and making it impossible for those slaves to ever get freedom. They were considered unhuman, and were treated as machines/animals and not allowed to live in any community where they would have an opportunity to pass on culture or wisdom to the next generation. Little best practices and virtues and lessons that we get from our parents and take fore granted were taken from these people. The subsequent institutional segregation means that they were not able to properly integrate into the wider culture and absorb back any culture. So they are now having to develop their culture from scratch and racists see that and say look, slavery is over, but they are still so different, as if such a loss can be overcome so fast.

    • @RandomCarrot2806
      @RandomCarrot2806 2 роки тому +8

      @@Molari They were still treated far better than the ones sold to the middle east or the ones not sold off to other regions. Not to mention there was an active effort from the northern states to free the slaves in the south. It was not impossible to get free for slaves. Hell, a goddamn civil war was fought to liberate them. Pretending that the slaves brought to the US were treated especially horrible compared to life in most other places in the world at the time is just wrong.
      Slavery in the US was not "especially heinous". Nobody is pretending it was OK, but it was better than everyone is pretending it was. For most of history most people weren't considered human by the ruling class.
      The biggest thing standing in the way of recovery is opening the wound of the historical trauma and selling it as "especially heinous".

    • @jackfanning7952
      @jackfanning7952 2 роки тому +6

      @@Molari Slavery is alive and well in the U.S. today, but the slavers are different. Most of the slaves today are a result of the sex trade. And the gangs have found that dealing in human flesh is more profitable and less risky than selling drugs and guns. I researched the number of people convicted of human trafficking in my state for an entire year, as reported in the media. You do not want to know, but can probably guess, what the race of over 80% of the perpetrators were.

    • @jordanwhisson5407
      @jordanwhisson5407 2 роки тому

      'One of the things that fuel a growing resentment in me is being blamed for an institution like slavery when it was my bloody ancestors that paid and fought to end it globally'. Well, your ancestors didn't stop there did they, they turned to other means. Well, off you go hold the Africans and Arabs responsible for their actions, and good luck to you. About your childish racist resentment, what does your knowledge of history tell you about what happened in those countries after your ancestors stopped slavery, which they didn't stop of course as it continues to this very day? 'It makes me think that if we are going to play this evil horrendous identity politics game, then what right does any other race have to the inventions and products of the West' when they pay to buy one of those inventions they have the right to hose inventions. But you have to ask where did the money come from to invent those inventions? So read some history and get back to me. You clearly have not been held responsible your snobby elitist attitude screams precisely that. Here you are playing the victim all the while virtue signalling your heart out because the truth about our history is being told. Really.

  • @abigailslade3824
    @abigailslade3824 2 роки тому +16

    Loved the full episode so much I had to watch the clips too.

  • @bobdole7697
    @bobdole7697 2 роки тому +14

    DOUGLAS MURRAY IS A BRITISH AMERICAN PATRIOT. THIS GUY IS A HERO.

  • @evanzarkadas3644
    @evanzarkadas3644 2 роки тому +11

    Thank you for this, great and much beneficial information. Can’t wait to read the book.

  • @rustcohle6241
    @rustcohle6241 2 роки тому +16

    Such an informative discussion, thank you guys.

  • @alicerose1460
    @alicerose1460 2 роки тому +2

    I simply love this man ♥both of them actually 😊 Have ordered my copy of Douglas' book last week and it's arriving today! Can't wait!

  • @donagh1954
    @donagh1954 2 роки тому +13

    Everybody should see and hear this video. Douglas knows his stuff.

  • @bertibear1300
    @bertibear1300 2 роки тому +12

    My ancestors were miners in the north and it was hell, how badly they were treated.Yet I am now told I am privileged because of my ancestors.

    • @thedativecase9733
      @thedativecase9733 2 роки тому +3

      Yes and mill workers and factory workers in 19thc Lancashire like my ancestors in the early days they weren't even allowed toilet breaks- on a 10 hour shift! Well privileged huh.

    • @lks6248
      @lks6248 2 роки тому +3

      Too bloody right! My ancestors were fishermen and my husbands were miners. None of them had anything that they didn’t have To work bloody hard for. Anyone who mentions white privilege to me in my own land had better be able to run fast.

  • @jazztheglass6139
    @jazztheglass6139 2 роки тому +10

    My grandfather had tribal scars, he was igbo born at the turn of the century. The scars were if your child was kidnapped and enslaved. His people would know him, where he was from if he ever escaped.

  • @56AngelFallen
    @56AngelFallen Рік тому +4

    Douglas is pure genius, I'm in awe

  • @RICHARDGRANNON
    @RICHARDGRANNON 2 роки тому +9

    Excellent. Thankyou guys.

  • @Ozgipsy
    @Ozgipsy 2 роки тому +14

    “imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever” - Orwells warning of the future. And we just thought it was fiction.

  • @viskovandermerwe3947
    @viskovandermerwe3947 2 роки тому +51

    I employed many black people in my home to work in the house and garden while I was living in South Africa in order to help the great unemployment problem that they have in South Africa. For this, I got labeled as a "racist", of course. I had to let these people "go", then II did all the work myself, then I was accused of "stripping the work of African people". (I had house-invasions during that time). I sold the house and moved to an apartment.

    • @atilayyilmaz3401
      @atilayyilmaz3401 2 роки тому +1

      Its pronounced apartheid. 😅

    • @viskovandermerwe3947
      @viskovandermerwe3947 2 роки тому +5

      @@atilayyilmaz3401 Do you know what the unemployment figure looks like in South Africa now?

    • @macclift9956
      @macclift9956 2 роки тому

      Please refresh my memory: How many white crosses in the "rainbow nation"?

    • @Stimros_halabad
      @Stimros_halabad 2 роки тому

      @@macclift9956 one too many

    • @andrethegafa5537
      @andrethegafa5537 2 роки тому +8

      As a Zimbabwean, I honestly feel sorry for white Africans cause they're not seen as one of our own, but as "former colonisers"

  • @Ukepa
    @Ukepa 2 роки тому +2

    always like to hear Douglas Murray's views.

  • @AmpersandVibe
    @AmpersandVibe 2 роки тому +15

    Second comment in my life . Nice video Brother . keep going Man . love from India 🥰😌❤️👍

  • @richedwards4590
    @richedwards4590 2 роки тому +1

    Great interview

  • @iananderson8288
    @iananderson8288 2 роки тому +1

    Spot on. First time listening to Douglas

  • @thomasn7361
    @thomasn7361 2 роки тому

    Great points made!

  • @romancandlefight1144
    @romancandlefight1144 2 роки тому +4

    Hugely recommend Thomas Sowell's writing on slavery also . Fascinating stats. You can find uploaded sections of audio books on UA-cam

  • @andybud1983
    @andybud1983 2 роки тому +8

    At last, someone well educated talking on the subject.

  • @rachelkingsley668
    @rachelkingsley668 2 роки тому +5

    Douglas and Chris
    … excellent intelligent discussion.
    Thanks guys
    Douglas is perfectly correct - modern slavery is a blight on every society- this is the issue crying out to heaven for vengeance….

  • @simeonyoung6298
    @simeonyoung6298 2 роки тому

    Very good points made...

  • @Augustus_Imperator
    @Augustus_Imperator 2 роки тому +13

    DougIas is so incredibIy inteIIgent and knowIedgeabIe, I Ioved to read 2 of his books, and I wiII sureIy read the next

  • @freesk8
    @freesk8 2 роки тому

    Good one. Thanks.

  • @draztiqmeshaz6226
    @draztiqmeshaz6226 2 роки тому +25

    That's "official" slaves.
    The computational advances in the last 50 years have made tracking and manipulation of price/wage balances so precise and manipulable that the majority of people even in the west are working JUST to afford their "freely" chosen shelter and transport, but not have so much excess energy or time or capital that they can reach any kind of comfortable plateau before they kick off.

    • @brushstroke3733
      @brushstroke3733 2 роки тому

      Well said. Almost everyone alive today is a virtual slave, despite the fact they get to choose which clothes to buy and which car and house payments they get to serve.

  • @MontecristotoValjean
    @MontecristotoValjean 2 роки тому

    oh Douglas, I'm 100% with you on this!!!!

  • @leec7630
    @leec7630 2 роки тому

    This is amazing
    Thank you

  • @freddygravy6753
    @freddygravy6753 2 роки тому +3

    Spot on Mr Murray, as usual.

  • @greenman7126
    @greenman7126 2 роки тому

    Excellent clarity on this subject and the motivation of those that seek to manipulate history for personal advantage. Also ignoring internal african and arab slave trade.

  • @mattanderson6672
    @mattanderson6672 2 роки тому

    Thank you Douglas!

  • @Edchalio
    @Edchalio 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @markalan4026
    @markalan4026 2 роки тому

    Well said!

  • @joenichols3901
    @joenichols3901 2 роки тому +4

    I won't go into much detail but I have seen a "slave plantation" myself in Ecuador. Essentially, I was dating a girl very seriously and after a few years I went to visit the "family farm". There were around 100 African slaves which I was not allowed to see - I saw the plantation and was made aware of the slaves through verbal evidence. The fact I was not allowed to see them, when I was deeply involved in everything else, is confirmation for me. It was a sugar cane plantatio

    • @oftin_wong
      @oftin_wong 2 роки тому +1

      You didn't see it though

  • @4june9140
    @4june9140 2 роки тому

    Always spot on

  • @TyroneBeiron
    @TyroneBeiron 2 роки тому +12

    The point made by citing the Florentine tour guide's explanation that the church was built "without the cost of labour" is an oversimplification, and misleading. Of course, Chris didn't specify which church building he was alluding to, but to suggest that 'slave' labour was used disregards the guild system, the social context as well as penitential offering by parishioners towards the construction. Some listeners may think ancient church buildings were constructed by slave labour. We do know that in the British colonies convict labour from India was popularly used for public works. The Anglican cathedral of St Andrew in Singapore for example is an documented example. Today, in the rebuilding of Notre Dame's roof, many of the forestry partners and mills are contributing to the work as 'philanthropy' and one wonders if 500 years from now, some commentator will suggest otherwise.
    The point is, it's hardly accurate to cite a tour guide without specifics and insinuate that monumental and beautiful ancient church buildings and furnishings were because there was no 'cost of labour/slave labour': I think what the guide meant was that these were donations or gifted, and hence the misunderstanding. 🤔

    • @lemonblue6282
      @lemonblue6282 2 роки тому +3

      Thank you for bringing this up, I'd forgotten that labor was given on a volunteer basis in erecting church buildings - something about trading labor for the prayers of the priest that aided their dead loved ones.

    • @pinchebruha405
      @pinchebruha405 2 роки тому +2

      Never ever forget the guild’s that we’re how everything was done

  • @mariusbaltazarrozenberg-ho4942
    @mariusbaltazarrozenberg-ho4942 2 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @jeffodabear
    @jeffodabear 2 роки тому

    So many people need to watch this video 10-15 times.

  • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
    @EmperorsNewWardrobe 2 роки тому +7

    On the topic of Western slavery, and in the words of the brilliant Thomas Sowell:
    Compared to what?

  • @drazicmilosovic1065
    @drazicmilosovic1065 2 роки тому +5

    Talk about some inconvenient truths!

  • @incedofortis
    @incedofortis 2 роки тому

    Douglas is great, good wishes from Poland.

  • @blanchejonas6992
    @blanchejonas6992 5 місяців тому

    I simply love Douglas Murray he is a breath of fresh air in our mucked up world.

  • @AgustePerry
    @AgustePerry 2 роки тому

    Brilliant as always, Carry on Gent's

  • @jayturner3397
    @jayturner3397 2 роки тому

    Good man, well said Sir

  • @marcomune333
    @marcomune333 2 роки тому +2

    I guess you could argue that epigenetics, which is the study of how behaviour and environment has an impact on someone’s genes, might help to explain how, something that happened centuries ago, is still having repercussions on the modern generations

  • @ConfusedHomoSapien
    @ConfusedHomoSapien 2 роки тому +1

    Tremendous 🙌

  • @MartinJG100
    @MartinJG100 2 роки тому

    0:58 Indeed. Succinctly put, Douglas.

  • @cloggy010
    @cloggy010 2 роки тому

    so right!!

  • @COM70
    @COM70 2 роки тому

    Acknowledgement should be the only benefit or gain from historical cultural wrongs. In order to not repeat history.

  • @Hyporama
    @Hyporama 2 роки тому

    bitter truth spoken plainly is a slap in the face

  • @bananahammock8517
    @bananahammock8517 2 роки тому

    Where can i buy one?

  • @TheVanneo
    @TheVanneo 2 роки тому +3

    Jewish involvement in slavery isn't spoken of usually. Why might that be?

  • @cindyp2181
    @cindyp2181 2 роки тому

    Well... that explains a LOT.

  • @mrfatuchi
    @mrfatuchi 2 роки тому

    6:50 so this is where GRR Martin got his inspiration for Unsullied. I had no idea this actually happened...

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 2 роки тому +1

    0:31, to be precise 215 years ago. (Since you’re talking about Great Britain).

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 2 роки тому +1

    0:34, agreed

  • @adambutler3266
    @adambutler3266 2 роки тому

    We never really learn do we, doomed to repeat history over and over.

  • @robertroe9563
    @robertroe9563 2 роки тому +6

    We literally fought an unnecessary civil war to end slavery when the institution was already in decline because it wasn’t even economically preferable with the inventions that lead to industrialization. This is why Europe ended it without a war.

    • @kingattila506
      @kingattila506 2 роки тому

      The civil war was about more than slavery. It was about preserving the Union.

    • @siddarth3955
      @siddarth3955 2 роки тому +1

      Isn't colonisation itself slavery?

    • @robertroe9563
      @robertroe9563 2 роки тому +1

      Inherently no… colonization can be good or bad depending who is doing the colonizing. Most everything we think of as good in the world today is a result of colonization. There have been peoples who have been stagnant for thousands of years who instantly improved due to colonization.

    • @siddarth3955
      @siddarth3955 2 роки тому

      @@robertroe9563 that's a pretty convenient and 100% inaccurate way of looking at history. Nothing is due to colonisation. World improved post industrialization and globalisation after WW2, before that all the colonized countries and it's natives were more or less the same. Your comment can also be used to credit nazi and communism because world war and later cold war lead to so much scientific revolution.

    • @robertroe9563
      @robertroe9563 2 роки тому

      @@siddarth3955 you are reading into it what you want to read into it. The fact remains that Native American tribes who allied with colonials and accepted the west are FAR better than those who didn’t. When you look at places with European colonialism those places are better off for it because they had access to technical improvements faster. Those who were colonized by Spain are better than if they hadn’t, those who were colonized by the French slightly better than being colonized by the Spanish, and those colonized by Anglos are doing the best of all.

  • @tonygoodkind7858
    @tonygoodkind7858 2 роки тому

    Feels weird that the first point (and video title) seems like a dramatically more important issue to talk about than dwelling on the past, and then the rest of the talk dwells on the past. I mean we _should_ remember the mistakes other made in the past, but they're _others'_ mistakes, and if we're aware of a modern crisis surely that's a more worthwhile topic to cover and bring to peoples' attention in greater detail.

  • @_GlobalNomad
    @_GlobalNomad 2 роки тому +6

    It’s true that Europeans didn’t really go into the interior of Africa and catch slaves. They just turned up to the ports and bartered with the natives who captured slaves usually after a raid or war with a neighbouring tribe that was defeated in battle. Everyone probably has a ancestor that was a slave, the same way that probably everyone has a ancestor that was part of a ruling class at one time. I mean usually in the past it was really a dog eat dog world. If you won the battle you ruled and if you lost you were sold into slavery or killed. The chances of you being a descendant of someone who lineage didn’t taste both sides over say the past 5000 years is extremely unlikely.
    Look at the Irish who were also sold into slavery yet one of their descendants became the president of United States. The same came be said of the Slavs and say Putin.

    • @brandonmay3094
      @brandonmay3094 2 роки тому

      Look at obama

    • @_GlobalNomad
      @_GlobalNomad 2 роки тому +1

      @@brandonmay3094 yes his great great great grandfather was from a Irish village called Moneygall, County Offaly.

    • @crazychicSHENA
      @crazychicSHENA Рік тому

      Exactly about the irish white were slaves

  • @diogenes9524
    @diogenes9524 2 роки тому +16

    Murray is incisive as usual, and the more trenchant his observations, the more vital that we understand *why* our institutions and academies have bowed thir heads to the elevation of victim culture. The absurdity surpasses the unfairness.

    • @jordanwhisson5407
      @jordanwhisson5407 2 роки тому

      Geez, champ it's all too unfair for the truth to be told, and it is vital we understand 'WHY'! our institutions and academies have bowed their heads to the elevation of victim culture', is you who is playing the victim who is upset that your right-wing radicals are being held to account. Just love the trenchant observations of Douglas whingy religious right-winger victim, cause it's so unfair. 'Our academics' are simply telling the truth to power nothing at all wrong with that. Why is it that you have no problem with the poor being marginalised but when it is your turn for the truth you become so upset and you can't handle your own truth? Truly Pathetic religious right-wing gutless hypocrites.

  • @Mr_Case_Time
    @Mr_Case_Time 2 роки тому +2

    Here’s an interesting “Man on the Street” question: should we use resources to pay reparations, or to free slaves?

  • @loreto761
    @loreto761 2 роки тому +2

    Tell it like it is Douglas

  • @robertdouglas8895
    @robertdouglas8895 2 роки тому

    "He who lives as if the past is now is destined to repeat it in his mind as if it were true."
    The world we see is s mirror.

  • @malootua2739
    @malootua2739 2 роки тому +1

    It's called "digging up the dead bones of the past"

  • @raissa4260
    @raissa4260 Рік тому +1

    As an African I find the idea of rehashing of this while colonialism, slavery and now reparations totally useless and unproductive.

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 2 роки тому +1

    2:58, Voltaire used the existence of slavery to disprove the optimism of earlier Enlightenment philosophers.

  • @ericbrown5589
    @ericbrown5589 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Douglas, you are so correct regarding these permanent black slave victims, they just cannot let it go. Plus the fact, what they write is usually fictitious and erroneous. The slave trade by the Arabs was usually worse because most of the males were castrated and their life span was quite short. As regards reparations, I would offer a single ticket to their ancestral home, take it or leave it. Looking forward to reading his new book.

    • @ledaswan5990
      @ledaswan5990 2 роки тому +2

      So if u don’t like it go back to where u came from?

    • @crazychicSHENA
      @crazychicSHENA Рік тому +1

      I think white and blacks and Spain should leave America😊

  • @dmustakasjr
    @dmustakasjr 2 роки тому

    Plz reference the statistic source for your slaves today vs. 19th century.

  • @troytreeguy
    @troytreeguy 2 роки тому +3

    Actually Douglas there’s a lot of evidence now to suggest that the pyramid builders or a highly skilled group of trades people which were provided food and medical care and lived at a level much higher than that of the average Egyptian

    • @cumbriatreesurgeons8943
      @cumbriatreesurgeons8943 2 роки тому +1

      There's also evidence that black slaves in America were treated well on the whole by the plantation owners, as they were valuable commodities. It was the transportation of these poor souls that was particularly horrendous. But both groups had no choice in their destiny, which is enslavement. You could also argue that the poor working class people who facilitated the Industrial Revolution in the UK were slaves, as the companies made sure they were indebted financially to the company for life. Slavery has many forms, and is definitely on the ascendancy.....

  • @J.A.Seyforth
    @J.A.Seyforth 2 роки тому

    Amazing, Nietzsche's Human all too human is dedicated to Voltaire. The fact that Voltaire's statue has been torn down in the country that was once - and he himself too - considered the greatest cultural moment in general, as well as enlightenment history, just tells you how low our Western culture is aiming and falling

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali186 Рік тому +1

    50 million slaves as of the 31st of December, 2022.
    That’s more than the number of slaves in the heyday of the Roman Empire, during Trajan’s reign in the year 117, and more than the number of slaves in America at the dawn of the civil war in the 1860s.

  • @SIZLIANO
    @SIZLIANO 2 роки тому +10

    7:30 I speak Arabic, and I would like to correct his statement. The word "عبد (abed)" means "slave" or "worshiper" and is commonly used in Arab-speaking countries to refer to all fellow Muslims (no matter the color or ethnicity) because we are indeed slaves to Allah (God) and worship him. I can't judge his intentions but it's funny that he scratched his nose right as he was starting his sentence.

    • @noorsamen6698
      @noorsamen6698 2 роки тому +4

      The word “abed عبد” lost its slavish context except for its religious context which you emphasized , when an arab says “abed” it either means black without thinking at all of any kind of racist slavish superiority , or it means a slave in its religious context that is a slave to allah.
      I live in the middle east, surly i cant speak of all middle east areas but the country i live in is palestine and i have many black friends which we sometimes adress them using the word abed , when i was a kid growing up i had never had any idea what racism is and never thought that i have more worth , these things rarely exist and seen btw people here.

    • @skinnysnorlax1876
      @skinnysnorlax1876 2 роки тому +1

      @@noorsamen6698 but the n word in english is just a corruption of negro, which is a way of referring to blackness.
      It's literally no different, just that one connotation has lasted, while the other lost meaning over time.

    • @big4330
      @big4330 2 роки тому

      @@skinnysnorlax1876 facts

    • @noorsamen6698
      @noorsamen6698 2 роки тому +2

      @@skinnysnorlax1876 Exactly , but Douglas here is implying that the Abed word is still having its Historical slavish meaning in the middle east where i say that i really never experienced or seen that , and again i cant talk for all of the middle east as i didnt live in all of it , but still i dont think that its much different in any of the arab countries .

    • @matthewmullin8168
      @matthewmullin8168 2 роки тому

      @@noorsamen6698 is it like how eastern Europeans refer to themselves as slavs (aka slaves to the nords)?

  • @yobench
    @yobench 2 роки тому

    Everyone should read Candide by Voltaire

  • @freespiritedbeing
    @freespiritedbeing 2 роки тому

    This made me more interested in his looks than his book.

  • @bell191991
    @bell191991 2 роки тому +2

    I wish all the self-righteous activists would spend half of their time agitating for ending the slavery that exists now!

  • @stevenyourke7901
    @stevenyourke7901 2 роки тому +1

    Slavery is still legal in the USA. Prisoners still provide slave labor. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and indentured service generally but carved out an exception for those convicted of crimes. Prisoners can be forced to work without compensation. The USA has the highest prison population in the world, around 25 percent of all prisoners are in the USA. Around .06 percent of the US population is incarcerated.

  • @nevsart5884
    @nevsart5884 2 роки тому +2

    What about those people complaining about slavery but use a mobile phone etc, that are made by slaves, surely, they are profiting from slavery?

  • @lorenzbroll0101
    @lorenzbroll0101 2 роки тому

    A lot of this is misdirection by politicians as well; they know what is going on but misdirect into other redundant causes because the truth is too uncomfortable for their careers.

  • @KMR1776
    @KMR1776 2 роки тому

    Yes

  • @cb-side13
    @cb-side13 2 роки тому +1

    Isn't it funny when people complain about slavery in the past, but ignore the injustices of the present?
    Because trying to change the present is much more difficult than complaining about the past which nothing can be done to change it.

    • @craigpearson7578
      @craigpearson7578 2 роки тому

      It's usually because the same people complaining about the past slavery issues are usually profiting from today's slaves... getting cheap take away food. Getting their cars washed for pennies. Using the prostitutes and are usually lefties. It's the same thing with feminists. They never mention how terribly poor women in some religions are treated for fear of turning on their own ideology

  • @Jimmyjames738
    @Jimmyjames738 2 роки тому +1

    This man is so important ✌️

  • @eugenemurray2940
    @eugenemurray2940 2 роки тому

    I was a union activist some years ago...
    The Marxian Trope back then was that slaves which in Capitalism are plant and machinery were better off than waged labor...
    Rationale being
    Which car is better looked after?
    The one that is owned
    Or
    The rental?

    • @thedativecase9733
      @thedativecase9733 2 роки тому

      My dad used to be a Marxist (old style) descended from cotton mill workers, and he used to argue this. At the time - as a teen I accused him of being racist. He wasn't.

  • @ttt69420
    @ttt69420 2 роки тому

    The british also had a lenghty maritime war against arab slavers long after it was abolished in the west.

  • @rbrowne2998
    @rbrowne2998 2 роки тому

    We are parched today and a neat dose of truth is good to drink.

  • @juliawitt3813
    @juliawitt3813 2 роки тому +1

    I actually can’t believe I just heard that the black slavers and the black slaves ‘ balanced each other out ‘. And did Douglas Murray just nod ??? This Chris Williamson needs an intellect upgrade 😂.

  • @russellstephan6844
    @russellstephan6844 2 роки тому +5

    The definition of slavery is, "An incontestable claim on the workproduct of another."
    The average U.S. wage earner forfeits more than 50% of their income in overt and covert taxes to the state involuntarily...
    The plantation has just been consolidated and taken over by the state.

  • @valentingarcia6582
    @valentingarcia6582 2 роки тому +2

    Muhammad Ali should pay reparations and an apology to George Forman. Why not?