Skater of the Year: Breaking Down Every Thrasher SOTY (1990-2021)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Every Thrasher SOTY since 1990 has had their own unique path to the title
This whirlwind tour of the last 30 winners attempts to identify a pattern in the selection process
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Jamie went from flow, to AM, to Pro, to SOTY in 1 year
Big boy Foy holds a special place in ma heart
legend status in 1 year
@@dumbdata34 in 2017 his official welcome to deathwish came out on January, turned pro on KOTR around June, fs crook El Toro came out November, then SOTY December. Hell of a year
He is great at skate boarding but not as good as download trump
I knew Jamie when he was just the best skater at camp wood ward (2014 or so) to go from that to SOTY in 3 years seriously melts my brain
So glad you include skate footage in your videos. I learn a lot of skateboarding history because of you. Thank you. Another well done video!
Excellent work! Rowley’s footage in Sorry goes further back than 1999 - the first trick filmed in the video was his double kink lipslide in 1997.
Chris Cole’s second win Phelps quoted the flat ground challenge and that Cole won everything that year and released insane video parts while doing it
I *LOVE* that Rodney Mullen never won 'Skater of the Year'.
I bet he loves it, too.
he doesnt need the accolade. anyone who know skateboarding history knows he the GOAT.
Facts
Mullen has never really thrashed.
@@PotatoeSnow Are you a troll, or just stupid?
Rodney Mullen invented nearly every trick in the book when it comes to street/flat ground skating.
The Ollie, Kickflip, Heelflip, Impossible, 360 Flip, Darkslides, Caspers, etc. - All Mullen invented tricks.
Skateboarding doesn't exist today without Rodney Mullen.
@@PotatoeSnow so you’re saying that Rodney wasn’t half as good in the 80s you do realize he invented most flip tricks manny tricks. He invented Street skating in the 80s and was a big part in the early 90s you have no clue kid.
I don’t understand how Nyjah has never gotten one?? I know lots of people dislike him, not sure why tho…Like him or not, dude is nice
Maybe he don't play nice with others and is unrelatable to average skaters now. Look at how vert fell off in the early 90s. I feel like big rail skating lost its appeal. Imo maybe if nyjah stepped out into the east coast more and not skate only big rails in perfect cali school yards he may have a chance.
And honestly I'm over guys crapping out parts a month before the polls open. It's skater of THE YEAR not Skater of THE MONTH.
Nah. Man, he got robbed last year. Nyjah's "need that" should've won it but you know how cruel this universe can be. Its like he was in a gauntlet boxing match, and everyone had brass knuckles in their gloves.
It's all his raping
The question is: What has he done for Trasher magazine?😅
Nyjah's a raper mon that's why
1993 was a little before my time, and i grew up in the adjacent PNW but have spent tons of time in SF. anyway, i just realized Cardiel is ollieing stair 8 at Ocean Beach at @4:18. i think i've coincidentally taken a photo in that exact same spot to the left up top, but the size of that gap is absolutely insane, not to mention all the debris/sand everywhere. i have no idea how this man achieved that, and it honestly just made me realize how much more of an animal Cardiel is. holy. fucking. shit.
I like these non BATB videos a lot too though I miss the humor in those. The one liners are hilarious. Good stuff. Idk how you do the research for the stats or all this but good job man
Thanks my bro
Kind of a necessity. After all of the shenanigans last year, I don’t see much need to fw them at all. They’ve been on the downhill slide for years.
@@ianturnbow7011 I disagree. I know they had to pivot a little due to Covid but I did enjoy Mike V vs Tyler, Liston vs Mike Capodi and Chris vs Kelly and even the squid game ones. They were funny battles that were entertaining but I would of loved to see some of the matches that never happened like the one with Giger. Hopefully though they will be able to reschedule those dope ones and get those done.
I started skateboarding in the ozark mountains of in fayette ville Arkansas which there were a lot of killer hills to bomb that was in the late 90s even back then there a lot of ba r.c ed r.c
Great stuff. Instantly one of my favorite videos of yours so far.
Thanks brother!!
I’m really enjoying these recent video essay style videos, you and gifted hater are proving to be a vanguard for hyper specific skateboarding discourse
Preshade it my g
Crazy how ishod is still tearing it up a decade later
Literally, ishod is a gem, truly a talent that can never be replicated. I am grateful to exist in an age to witness him
As someone who read every Thrasher disuse since 2001. I can tell you video parts had almost zero to do with the award. You need to think about it. Thrasher didn’t put out videos, they put out ads and articles. So for all the awards from 2000-2010, you would notice a skater in the magazine build up steam throughout the year. Seeing massive tricks in ads and story’s done about them. Usually because they were filing for a part. I remember thinking Mark Appleyard was in every single Ad in 2002 which is why I wasn’t surprised he won. Then when that skaters video part came out the year after they won, you would finally see all the tricks in video that you saw throughout the pages of Thrasher that year. Wasn’t til this decade that it flipped
I beg to differ. Koston-mouse,reynolds-the end,BA-jump off a building, arto-menikmati,tnt-in bloom, apples-really sorry,Danny way-d c video,Chris Cole-new blood, daewon-skate more,Marc johnson-fully flared.... and on and on and on. Even if their video part was released the year before these skaters won,they were still riding off the heat they produced. Having interviews and ads in the mag definitely solidified their wins.
@@nicolasbaker9601 - the skateboard community is small. And the year Chris Cole won the second time it was obvious the whole year he was going to win. This wasn’t because of the video part itself. Each of those tricks were done the years leading up to it. And he seemed to have a banger in every issue. I still remember the thrasher spread of Back to the Berg. And seeing his 270 lip in a sequence. The way to win in prior years was to always be in the mind of the skate community. Posting tricks in the mag as often as possible. Which then can lead to a sick video part in the end. But it’s not the video that cemented it.
Pre - UA-cam, the only way to see up to date skating was in magazines. Where as now, skaters just consume video from Instagram and UA-cam. So that’s how they gain traction. Through multiple parts. It’s completely different now
@@nicolasbaker9601 you beg to differ, but you are not contradicting his point. Before it was the buildup to the part that was awarded, nowadays it’s the part or should I say parts, that decide the fate.
@@nikokaapa it's always been the video part. I've skateboarding and a religious skate nerd following every mag since 02. Almost every SOTY has had the video part that year or the year before they win
@@nicolasbaker9601 Dude, same here, 2002. I agree! Re-read my message! This last decade it has been the video part released BEFORE the awards that gave skaters the edge. Before that, it seemed to have been the build-ups to a part released AFTER the award ceremony. As Kevin already pointed out.
Fun Fact about 2006 SOTY: It was supposed to be Nick Dompierre but because he wasn’t “Pro” yet, they gave it to Daewon
Maybe because Nick was from Real / SF Area? (I'm not sure). But what wasn't mentioned in the video is Daewon's part in DVS Skate More, main reason I believe.
This was epic research good job! I can proudly say I have been alive for every SOTY.
GREAT work! Something to also consider is that there will never be another skater to win SOTY two times again. We have so many talented skaters all over the world that Danny and Chris's x2 SOTY wins will remain in history the only two skaters to achieve achieve such a feat.
Some of the younger SOTYs (Ishod, Kyle Walker, Foy) could go off and get a 2nd title
Oh how this comment has aged lmao. But it was still unbelievable
Tyshawn jones?
@@Recoveringaddiction001 look at when this comment was made
Pretty diverse group style-wise
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The Thrasher cover Tyshawn got right before his SOTY cover is so sick. That was when he did the flat subway stairwell gap into the street and landing his back wheels on the curb. I mean it doesn’t get much more NY grimey skating than that.
Excellent use of your statistical knowledge and finesse! Almost like watching a mini-documentary.
Thank you!!
UA-cam knows me well enough to have your icon on the first page of my subscriptions... I don't have to say anything more than thank you.
This comment was designed to massage the algorithm
Preshade it bro!
Great video dude, your videos have been getting better with each upload
yo thanks!!
Buying thrasher and Transworld was an exciting and mind blowing ritual during the 80’s when I was a little kid. ❤
Prod??? Sheckler??? Nyjah??? O'neill??? Luan Oliveira??? PJ Ladd??? Billy Marks??? Etc...???
Shecks should’ve got it somewhere in between 2006-2009 for sure man prod should’ve been 2010
omg thanks for this video, so insightful ! Can't believe you haven't covered King Of The Road. I think this could be a really cool idea for a Dumb Data video!!! I used to watch so much of these videos, but sadly it wen't downhill in 2000 something. It was really cool though, but was getting really ridiculous with the nasty Jaws poop footage. I don't wanna see that shit man !
Good stuff, as always, dumb data. Keep rocking!
This video was really well made and love skate knowledge stuff like this. And Thanks for the part recommendations 🙌
Great video man! Just a little surprised you didn't mention 'Really Sorry' from 2003 where Mark Appleyard had last part, the year he won SOTY
He did tho. Briefly. Watch again
Sorry to break it to you, but The Boss has come out and said it was his kick flip over the Berce 4 or 5 block that got him SOTY. He said Phelps told him he saw the picture or the footy and said "I'm giving SOTY to that guy!"
how the fuck has heath Kirchart never won soty his emerica parts to mindfield and dude back 3 the mega as a street skater fuck that heath is SOTY in my eyes.
Great story telling. Keep the content coming.
Thank you!!
"Jordan dunking from the 3-point line" - Dill
If it was so iconic and everyone remembered it, it seems like they would remember it correctly 😉 (it's the free-throw line)
Just messin', Dill and Jordan are both legends.
Skaters may be hard pressed to give a shit about a line on the floor
@@infinidominion lol what?! Dude, the line is what you play a game of skate over. The line is how far someone Ollies with a reliable and consistent metric. You remember any lines or cracks you’ve ever eaten shit on? The line fucking matters.
@@ianturnbow7011 yes, change the entire context
@@infinidominion not sure much you mean, Chris. There is no context. In fact, my comment just might disappear.
Don't forget things like Appleyard coming out of nowhere and getting covers and interviews in every major magazine
havent even watched yet but as soon as i saw what this video is about i thought, "this is a great video idea" thank you dumb data
“I’m here on a 5 day trip” 😂
Crazy I didn’t even know who tyshawn jones was until this video. I’m from the city and I just realized I was at Washington square park trying to bomb the fountain 🤯. I was just sparking up with the homie didn’t realize I was witnessing greatness 😂
Tyshawn Jones won it again this year!
The deadpan sarcasm when saying "Tony Hawk, famous for being on the Joe Rogan Podcast" lol wtf?
shit that took me back to the good ol' days, what a trip... thanks pal
PJ Ladd got robbed in 2002, ever heard of this video called Pj Ladds wonderful horrible life?!?!??! Greatest debut ever! I mean if we're going off video parts he should have won every year after that Strictly off that colleseum video.
just got home from a nice sesh, and have a very pleasant video to watch. priceless
Damn Jason Dill said Jordan dunked from the 3 pt line?!! I'd love to see that
The magazine Rowley is showing at the beginning wasn't thrasher, it was early photos of GR in a British skate mag. I think we are talking 91. So I think it's either skateboard magazine, or it could have been sk8 action. Also, rad magazine, tho I think that came later. But he was in the other 2 around 91. Pics from Liverpool streets when they were a lot grottier, rougher and darker places to be.
Chris Cole is just so smooth man
That early 2000's Flip team has to be one of the greatest of all time. For Rowley to win SOTY and become the 1st European to ever win it and then Arto, another European, to win it the very next year is epic enough but for Appleyard to win it for them for the 3rd time and Tom Penny to not even get a mention is just mind-blowing the talent they had on their books. They made me proud to be British .... even though Arto and Appleyard are not British, lol. It's crazy too because the 1st non-American to win SOTY (other than Eric Koston who was born in Thailand but with an American dad and was then totally raised in America and learned all his skating there), Bob Burnquist in 1997, was on Anti-Hero at the time but was then on that Flip team too by 2005. I know David Gonzalez was technically on the team too in that 2000-2009 era but he was still very young and didn't win SOTY until 2012 so I probably can't include him when talking about Flip's domination in those early post-millennium years. It's pretty crazy that there have been only 6 genuinely non-American winners of SOTY (8 if you include Daewon Song and Eric Koston, both of whom were pretty much raised in America) and of those 6, 5 have ridden for Flip and 4 were riding for Flip when they actually won. Insane really - us non-Americans really owe a LOT to that 1 company.
0:43 Good video but Tony Hawk was not famous for appearing on the Joe Rogan podcast..lmao🤦🤦
Good vid, but you didn’t touch on the year tyshawn won, that SOTY was meant to go to someone else but they turned it down. Pretty sure it was Evan smith
David Gonzalez is one of the few on this list to fully embody the title Thrasher!
Jamie Thomas should have won SOTY in 1996 for welcome to hell because that's the first part ever with massive steep 20 stair hand rails
Chris senn soty por vida! I loved hearing that!
excellent, excellent, excellent review!
i wanna say Chris Senn is an awesome skater which when seen live is even more impressive and who put all the hard work for many years. (oh, and who is perfectly right to choose what he wants to do next or when or how...) but i understand there is room for multiple interpretations as SOTY is a very subjective thing.
I wish i still had some of those early 2000s SOTY mags :( great video!
$100 a day in 1990 is $228 a day now. More than what 80% of current skate pros make. Not to mention the cost of living was way cheaper back then too.
6:28 I think Phelps meant nowadays (i.e. the last couple of years/last decade), not directly after winning the award. He was still very prominent in the skate business for a while after that. Phelps's attitude is very much "skate for life" and Senn's obviously isn't (check out his Free Lunch episode).
8:23 It was released in 1998, believe me. But Phelps said he gave it to Andrew after seeing him kickflip the Bercy 5 block. It probably wasn't, but he did make it sound like an emotional decision :-D
I have never skated and prior to Epicly Later'd popping up in my feed (because I watched plenty of other Vice stuff) I had never watched or been interested in skating AT ALL. Digging this stuff now, though.
Rodney Mullen, Muska Yuto and Nyjah all should have one also Paul Rodriguez.
Be cool if Andy Amderson got one, no not a joke. I don't know who has gotten them since 2022, Jeager Eaton also comes to mind.
Glad Bob Burnquest got one. I had his helmet I remember, also had P Rods autograph on it and Jeremy Rodgers when I skated with them the day before a Girl demo, Boston was in the demo, but I never went to the demo so just skated with them the night before.
WE NEED MORE
Thanks brother!
The fact PJ didn't get soty in 2002 is inexplicable
It's interesting as how Arto Saari was the first non us skater to be soty. Before 1998 videos where difficult to get in europe. You could only get vhs through skateshops or ordering through magazine. First east and west usa and then japan Europe australia and so... Long life to street skating.
The end was released before 2000 I know that because I watched it before I moved in the beginning of 2000
Chris Roberts gets hungry on it.
its so sunny out but i dont have to worry with all this shade. 10/10 roast would recommend
danny way sonning that karen forever goat moment
Great video where can I find the interview of Jake on the bunt
Season 4 episode 6 I’m guessing on any podcast streaming platform
Awesome summary, thanks!
thank you!!
BA ain’t got nothing on Tom Penny’s voice. Dude sounds like a 1000 year old enchanted oak tree
haha imagine a BA/Tom Penny podcast
@@dumbdata34 I do believe if they hit the right octave at the same time it would awaken the great ones and transcend humanity into the next plane of existence.
🤣
great video mate!
Although it would be ironic, I hope you never have to make a video about your channel ❤️ love your content
“Tony Hawk, famous for being on the John Rohan podcast”😂
Thanks for the research!
This dude should have like 1mil subs
17:05 The part that feels so fake, how people speak about him…
Because they have a common interest with him, keep them "relevant" to the overhyped era that we live in.
Also The End definitely came out in 1998.
Amazing video brother
much appreciated!!
Excellent topic and video:)
Thank you!!
great video, keep em coming
thank you!!
Who's the best SOTY?
Max palmer
Gotta be Bob Burnquist. Dude is so underrated in the GOAT conversation
Ishod
me
who has the worst NFT? so maybe Nyjah can win
Great breakdown
Funny i also thought about doing a soty overall Video, but u don good work like Always. I just missed a Little bit Videos bout competition, like als vs x-games vs dew tour. Crazy fact about the sotys is that no brazilian street Skater ever won that title. Its kinda like a US Thing anyway! Like I said before.
i heard jake say that if a pro loose there pay checks and stop skating they are not real skaters, i feel like that comment in some ways (even tho its harsh) kinda explains where he comes from when he said what he said about senn. he dont want people that dont have a real strong passion for skateboarding.
damn we're real skate nerds
Muska selling his Soul wearing a nasa hat.
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happy 20k😙
Great video!
My buddy Jesse was skater of the year one year. Not Thrasher Mag Skater of the Year. Ballplay, Alabama Skater of the Year 2013.
You alluded to it in the beginning, but the “votes” for soty mean nothing. The year AVE won was most shocking to me and that’s when I found out. Still today a lot of people think it’s a democratic vote.
And great work on the video!
“Brian Anderson has the deepest…. 😳….natural voice.. 😮💨
You should put Tony in the " vurt pioneer" catigory and more
Evan Smith got robbed after his legendary performance in KotR
How you not gonna show Tyshawn nollie flipping the trash can on flat
I done flubbed it huh. Tbh his flatground tres are otherworldly
Phone up for a bird. Amnesia. Coming in proper.
Whats shoes danny way is wearing on that cover for soty ? Vans?
So who’s this year SOTY I think it might be Nyjah or Tyshaw again or maybe Louie (but that’s less likely)
Paul Rodriguez never won one?? SMH
I didn’t know soty was introduced in 1990 thought it had been around for way longer 😂
Swear! Lol I would’ve thought Rodney got SOTY somewhere in the late 80s at least but it never happened
quick question but wasn't rodney mullen 2002 skater of the year? and if not where is he because he said in an interview that he was named skater of the year but when he got the award it didn't mean as much to him as it did before. it's like a tombstone because you don't achieve anything higher in life - then later came the Hall of Fame - funny guy but where is he? can someone help me with the answer? no time to see the whole video - Thanks
In 2002, Mullen won the Transworld Skateboarding Readers' Choice Award for Skater of the Year. Ahhh okay Thanks! Sorry
Wait how did p-rod not get a SOTY
thinkin the same thing, he been popular and a switch god. Me myself and I would've been a suitable part to win SOTY
There are others that are even more mind-boggling: Muska, Penny, Mariano, Duffy, Thomas, Salabanzi.
@@nikokaapa exactly muska and Jamie I thought were locks lol
I've never cared that much about s o t y because it all just seems biased. Obviously from the Phelps interviews you can see they have a certain bias. Obviously all of them are great, but I feel like it's an impossible task to choose one skater who takes the year
SOTY is an awesome award but the dudes who give it out remind me of movie critics, they judge people based on things they can't even do or at least can't nearly as well as the guys who win the award. They don't even have consistent parameters for judging. The regretting Chris Senn thing is so petty too, dude still skated in multiple video parts for years after he won the award but they say he doesn't care about skating and claim he quit after winning. Are they not allowed to do anything else with their lives other than skate after they win the award? Trying to knock the dudes character with the jimmy buffet comment just goes to show you that if you win the award, cool, but these guys aren't the arbiters of skateboarding.
Butter VID
It started as vert skating and hilighted street along the way , and became all about street after the early 90s,,fk