I think the team up wit Daredevil & Spidey to fight Kingpin will be in Spider-man 5 instead. Then Spider-man 6 could be the full Sin Six vs Peter & Miles. Whilst also passing the torch.
Yes, they will still have the rights. I think the new production timeline will be sometime around August or September of 2025 and wrap up sometime around January or February of 2026. I’m assuming the movie will be delayed to Christmas 2026
@@SNP2082it's not a matter of selling them the contract states they have to start production every 3 years and 9 months and have a film out every 5 years and 9 months so they need to start filming by September of 2025 which isn't that far away really
Marvel and Sony need to get on the same page and say either yup we are getting Venom or if we are getting a Street version of Spider-Man I don't think anyone knows which it is going to be yet.
Spider-Man and doctor doom will battle it out eventually, when they do I think they should make a reference to the original comic where they fight from the 60’s
WHAT IF..? The first act is a flashback to what Spider-Man was doing on the streets before the Avengers movie, then the rest of the movie is what he’s dealing with post Doomsday?
It would be nice if Brock was under the MCU banner, but you can’t forget, Sony is holding on tightly, hopefully they wake up and smell the giant bags of MCU cash!
fingers crossed it turns out good. Not sure how I feel about Venom in the MCU. Even though I kind of enjoyed the Venom flicks, he always came off a bit too goofy IMO
i still want a grounded Spider trilogy, which is EXTREMELY unlikely as we're marching straight into Secret Wars in just a few years... i don't know HOW they're going to do it, but good luck to them, and we'll be watching...!
Okay. So Knull is going to really seem to wreck things… Until Peter gets ‘help’ from someone who looks very much like Tony. Twist(among others I am sure) is this is not Tony but Victor Von Doom. And whatever he took from Knull to help banish him, is an important artifact he needs to ‘fix’ the multiverse… in his understanding of ‘fix.’(FAN THEORY)
If I were to posit-- I'd assume they'd cross Venom over with Spider-Man with this next installment while it still makes sense to do so. Being that it's the Multiverse Saga, and all. They'd might as well capitalize on the opportunity while it's still narratively viable. Especially considering the history between Secret Wars, and the Black Suit. It'd also be a smart move for Marvel, as It'd require much less last-minute exposition with regard to the symbiote since Tom Hardy's Venom is already a well-established character/ franchise of it's own. Then, with the fifth installment post-Secret Wars-- we get a more "street level", personal story with Tom Holland's Spider-Man coming to terms with everything that's happened, and changed following Dr. Doom's shenanigans, while also potentially teeing up a collaboration between He, and Miles Morales for the succeeding title. Lastly, the third film in Tom Holland's second trilogy & sixth film overall will center around the Sinister Six, with one such member possibly being the long-awaited return of Mac Gargan finally donning his Scorpion Suit. With Peter Parker either taking them on alone, or teaming up with Miles Morales in the event that he actually makes an appearance in these next few titles. This seems to be where Sony & Marvel are headed. But then again, they don't always venture down the path that makes the most sense. But I believe we'll be satisfied, and surprised with whatever route they decide to take next.
I want Herbert Landon to be the main villain. Have him create Rhino, Scorpion, Black Cat, Tombstone and other Spider-Man villains. Kingpin could be funding his experiments.
Sony continues to do things that make us scratch our head but at least this was nice to find out. I hope we get at least one scene where Spider-Man and venom duke it out before teaming up. I think null will be the villain
My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me. -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself). -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1] •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1] •[DS@-The Defenders] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19] 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22] •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22] •[@-Inhumans saga] •[DS@-The Punisher S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2] •[DS@-Daredevil S:3] •[DS@-The Punisher S:2] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)] •[%-Helstrom] 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Venom 3 ($) 57. Ms. Marvel 58. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 59. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] •[%-The new mutants] 60. Deadpool 61. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 62. Wolverine and Deadpool 63. Agatha all along 64. The eternals 65. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 66. Thunderbolts(€) -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways. -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. -I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps. Unreleased content as of 11/19/24: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again 7.Ironheart 8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 9.Marvel zombies 10.Kraven 11.eyes of wakanda 12.Xmen97 S:2 13.What if… S:3 14.Wonder man 15.Spider-man Noir 16.Dr. Strange 3 17.Spider-man 4 18.The Midnight sons 19.Blade? €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
I can kinda see where they're going, if Venom is indeed crossing over. Eddie left a piece of his Venom in 616, and he'll need that back if Knull does escape his prison. And if Knull tracks him there, that's a good way to join the two universes.
Given the Venom that Sony has built up, this news seems oddly… lackluster. At this point in the MCU / Sony universes any cross will inevitably make the end product mediocre at best because it’ll have to compensate for Sonys shortcomings. I’ll watch it, but expectations are low
I just hope they do it right because I love Spider-Man and 90's Venom is awesome. Would love to have a secret wars where we can have a recast T'challa , I would love to have a universe where Black Panther ( Aldi's H. ) and Doom are both working in that world.
I agree. Venom is the only option. I don't think they need to bring in Tom Hardy since there was a piece of venom in the universe already. But definitely give him the black suit!!!
If I were to posit-- I'd assume they'd cross Venom over with Spider-Man with this next installment while it still makes sense to do so. Being that it's the Multiverse Saga, and all. They'd might as well capitalize on the opportunity while it's still narratively viable. Especially considering the history between Secret Wars, and the Black Suit. It'd also be a smart move for Marvel, as It'd require much less last-minute exposition with regard to the symbiote since Tom Hardy's Venom is already a well-established character/ franchise of it's own. Then, with the fifth installment post-Secret Wars-- we get a more "street level", personal story with Tom Holland's Spider-Man coming to terms with everything that's happened, and changed following Dr. Doom's shenanigans, while also potentially teeing up a collaboration between He, and Miles Morales for the succeeding title. Lastly, the third film in Tom Holland's second trilogy & sixth film overall will center around the Sinister Six, with one such member possibly being the long-awaited return of Mac Gargan finally donning his Scorpion Suit. With Peter Parker either taking them on alone, or teaming up with Miles Morales in the event that he actually makes an appearance in these next few titles. This seems to be where Sony & Marvel are headed. But then again, they don't always venture down the path that makes the most sense. But I believe we'll be satisfied, and surprised with whatever route they decide to take next.
Honestly I think we all assumed the venom symbiot suit would be introduced at the end of Spiderman 4 and I can still see Sony releasing this tease even if it's only a small scene at the end ofvthe movie but time will tell
Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock/Venom in Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 is a good idea. But please, no Knull. Save him for the future. I want Michael Mando's Mac Gargan/Scorpion to be the main villain in the next Spidey movie, after that tease in Spider-Man: Homecoming!
I actually don't think most people mind the multiverse so much as the idea that this entire saga has been called the multiverse saga while the multiverse itself has had no significant impact on any of the storytelling. FF choosing to start in a different universe will probably be the first time anyone sees anything like it and I still don't expect that universe to be terribly different.
My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me. -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself). -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1] •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1] •[DS@-The Defenders] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19] 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22] •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22] •[@-Inhumans saga] •[DS@-The Punisher S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2] •[DS@-Daredevil S:3] •[DS@-The Punisher S:2] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)] •[%-Helstrom] 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Venom 3 ($) 57. Ms. Marvel 58. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 59. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] •[%-The new mutants] 60. Deadpool 61. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 62. Wolverine and Deadpool 63. Agatha all along 64. The eternals 65. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 66. Thunderbolts(€) -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways. -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. -I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps. Unreleased content as of 11/19/24: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again 7.Ironheart 8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 9.Marvel zombies 10.Kraven 11.eyes of wakanda 12.Xmen97 S:2 13.What if… S:3 14.Wonder man 15.Spider-man Noir 16.Dr. Strange 3 17.Spider-man 4 18.The Midnight sons 19.Blade? €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
Dr.Doom is an Avengers villain, so he won’t work, and Knull is an avengers level villain that needs more time to build up and he won’t work in a solo Spider-Man movie. I say they should bring back Mysterio and have it so that he is alive and working side by side with Dr.Doom to help create the ultimate illusion on the new alternate 616 earth
"A Gargantuan Gorilla Gaurding a Gaggle of Geese from Greedy Gargoyles Gargling Grease." You heard here first folks! I had no thoughts on Spider-Man and Venom.
I think the team up wit Daredevil & Spidey to fight Kingpin will be in Spider-man 5 instead.
Then Spider-man 6 could be the full Sin Six vs Peter & Miles.
Whilst also passing the torch.
Yes.
nah spiderman 6 is gonna be oscorp era
@@drone1.01 there is no osborns...they established that. kingpin would take his place
multiverse
@@musicpatron1693 but ig your right
I think we were hoping for this. Thanks Michael Roman. Everything Always; Always First.
Daredevil for Avengers Doomsday and/or Avengers Secret Wars
Think the real question is more will Sony still have the rights to Spiderman for a fourth film
If they can put it out before that deadline next year
Yes, they will still have the rights. I think the new production timeline will be sometime around August or September of 2025 and wrap up sometime around January or February of 2026. I’m assuming the movie will be delayed to Christmas 2026
Yes, Sony will likely retain their spiderman rights. It's very profitable for them so why would they sell them
@@SNP2082it's not a matter of selling them the contract states they have to start production every 3 years and 9 months and have a film out every 5 years and 9 months so they need to start filming by September of 2025 which isn't that far away really
I would much rather see spider Man with venom before Daredevil. It makes more sense right now. They need to start building towards a new sinister six!
Or a long build up for knull
Marvel and Sony need to get on the same page and say either yup we are getting Venom or if we are getting a Street version of Spider-Man I don't think anyone knows which it is going to be yet.
Godamm Sony, your gonna make Kevin angry! SPICYWIENER SMASH!! Thank you Michael! ALL FIRES 🔥!!!
Spider-Man and doctor doom will battle it out eventually, when they do I think they should make a reference to the original comic where they fight from the 60’s
WHAT IF..? The first act is a flashback to what Spider-Man was doing on the streets before the Avengers movie, then the rest of the movie is what he’s dealing with post Doomsday?
It would be nice if Brock was under the MCU banner, but you can’t forget, Sony is holding on tightly, hopefully they wake up and smell the giant bags of MCU cash!
I’d like to see Spider-Man team up with the street level heroes like daredevil Luke Cage punisher, and iron fist along with venom
fingers crossed it turns out good. Not sure how I feel about Venom in the MCU. Even though I kind of enjoyed the Venom flicks, he always came off a bit too goofy IMO
Spider man back to marvel!
Not yet. But, we’ll get there. Hopefully by 2026. 🤞🏽🤞🏽
Watch, spiderman 4 will be delayed to 2026 and the rights will go back to marvel because Sony was too late to start production
For shame, it is spelled with a hyphen
What are you dreaming? 🤣
Sony is no where near to give up Spiderman
Let’s Go Spider-Man!!!
Whew that's a relief! Great hopes for S4, awesome reporting Michael!
Spiderman can go back to be multiverse-less after Marvel finishes the multiverse saga
Don't count on it.
Going to wait for film
Same
thanks for the update keep up the good work
So stoked for anything about Spider-Man!
I like how consistent you are.
Absolutely NEED some more Spider-Man in the MCU sooner than later
Sony, just give Spidey to Marvel already. And thanks for the information All Fires. Love your content man
I'm extremely hyped to see which storyline they decide to explore with this film.
Cool
More Team-Ups! Double D in Black swinging through the city, Venom, so much rich source to feed from, even a bit of Clobberin' Time!
We have to see Spider-Man with Kingpin & Venom....Daredevil is the cherry on top. This is the way.
i still want a grounded Spider trilogy, which is EXTREMELY unlikely as we're marching straight into Secret Wars in just a few years... i don't know HOW they're going to do it, but good luck to them, and we'll be watching...!
It would be nice to finally see venom do some crazy stuff, but he should be brutal and marvel won’t do a rated R Spider-Man
We’re in for a ride either way it goes 🔥🔥
I Love this channel!!!!
brand new spider boy in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍😍
Awesome 👌 job. Keep doing ya thing 💯.
A Spidey/Venom team up will be so freaking awesome! Maybe even end in circumstances leading Ned to become Hobgoblin!!!
Absolutely pleased to see future Marvel content but upset to have missed Xmen97 finale however glad to have been able to catch Deadpool & Wolverine.
all movies till Battleworld should be a massive crossover movie with multiple characters
Imagine when Spider-Man 4 comes out, it’s actually Spider-Man 4 👀
Can’t wait to see what we will get!!
I’m interested where they take Spider-Man for this one. They’ve basically rebooted it with the memory wipe.
Spider Man + Venom needs to happen.
Team ups are great and all, but Spider-Man deserves a solo story.
Already had them several times
@@Darkelementsx22yes I was gonna say most of his films wer solo story’s but prolly the newest one
What like the 3 Tobey Maguire films, the 2 Andrew Garfield films, and 2 of the 3 Tom Holland Films?
Well, he's not getting one so, get over it because whining about it does absolutely nothing.
Haven’t Spider-Man always had solo live action movies tho outside of the Avengers
Spider-Man and Venom team up is what I’ve been waiting for in the MCU
Okay. So Knull is going to really seem to wreck things… Until Peter gets ‘help’ from someone who looks very much like Tony. Twist(among others I am sure) is this is not Tony but Victor Von Doom. And whatever he took from Knull to help banish him, is an important artifact he needs to ‘fix’ the multiverse… in his understanding of ‘fix.’(FAN THEORY)
Awesome video
If I were to posit-- I'd assume they'd cross Venom over with Spider-Man with this next installment while it still makes sense to do so. Being that it's the Multiverse Saga, and all. They'd might as well capitalize on the opportunity while it's still narratively viable. Especially considering the history between Secret Wars, and the Black Suit. It'd also be a smart move for Marvel, as It'd require much less last-minute exposition with regard to the symbiote since Tom Hardy's Venom is already a well-established character/ franchise of it's own. Then, with the fifth installment post-Secret Wars-- we get a more "street level", personal story with Tom Holland's Spider-Man coming to terms with everything that's happened, and changed following Dr. Doom's shenanigans, while also potentially teeing up a collaboration between He, and Miles Morales for the succeeding title. Lastly, the third film in Tom Holland's second trilogy & sixth film overall will center around the Sinister Six, with one such member possibly being the long-awaited return of Mac Gargan finally donning his Scorpion Suit. With Peter Parker either taking them on alone, or teaming up with Miles Morales in the event that he actually makes an appearance in these next few titles.
This seems to be where Sony & Marvel are headed. But then again, they don't always venture down the path that makes the most sense. But I believe we'll be satisfied, and surprised with whatever route they decide to take next.
Bro, Charlie, Vincent, and Jon are right there. Don't take too long and waste that opportunity. C'mon, man...
I want Herbert Landon to be the main villain. Have him create Rhino, Scorpion, Black Cat, Tombstone and other Spider-Man villains. Kingpin could be funding his experiments.
Quite a lot of Spidey news lately, interesting... Hope Spidey 4 is good!
Sony continues to do things that make us scratch our head but at least this was nice to find out. I hope we get at least one scene where Spider-Man and venom duke it out before teaming up. I think null will be the villain
It’s kind of hard to fathom how Sony is operating doing anything, but it would still be great to see venom in a Spidey movie
I really want to see Venom in the MCU, in more than a cameo/tease like last time.
I comment and subscribed 🎉 I hope Spider-Man 4 has venom in it
My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update
-The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
-All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
-Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
-The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
•[@-Agent Carter]
9. Avengers
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
•[DS@-The Defenders]
•[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
•[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1]
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
•[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
•[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
18. Capt. America: civil war
•[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
•[@-Inhumans saga]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
•[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)]
•[%-Helstrom]
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Venom 3 ($)
57. Ms. Marvel
58. The marvels
•[@-X-men 96]
59. X-men 97
•[%-Fox X-men saga]
•[%-The new mutants]
60. Deadpool
61. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Fox Punisher]
•[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
62. Wolverine and Deadpool
63. Agatha all along
64. The eternals
65. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
66. Thunderbolts(€)
-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways.
-I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
-I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
Unreleased content as of 11/19/24:
1.Thunderbolts(€)
2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Fantastic 4
4Avengers: Doomsday
5.Avengers: Secret wars
6.Daredevil: born again
7.Ironheart
8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
9.Marvel zombies
10.Kraven
11.eyes of wakanda
12.Xmen97 S:2
13.What if… S:3
14.Wonder man
15.Spider-man Noir
16.Dr. Strange 3
17.Spider-man 4
18.The Midnight sons
19.Blade?
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
So maybe in spider-man 4 Eddie sacrifices himself, Venom bonds with Peter 🎉
If you take the "international marketing" out of that sentence, you're left with the accurate statement: Sony's team is terrible.
Sounds about right tbh
I can kinda see where they're going, if Venom is indeed crossing over. Eddie left a piece of his Venom in 616, and he'll need that back if Knull does escape his prison. And if Knull tracks him there, that's a good way to join the two universes.
Maybe Live Action Spider-Verse?!
This sounds great and hope it happens lets go
I would love to see the Tom's together, but Hardy voicing the symbiote would be fun too.
I think the Daredevil team up makes the most sense at this point.
I’m surprisingly optimistic with the new Venom in mcu
A Spider-Man movie set in the middle of Secret Wars better involve a pocket burger.
Given the Venom that Sony has built up, this news seems oddly… lackluster. At this point in the MCU / Sony universes any cross will inevitably make the end product mediocre at best because it’ll have to compensate for Sonys shortcomings. I’ll watch it, but expectations are low
I just hope they do it right because I love Spider-Man and 90's Venom is awesome.
Would love to have a secret wars where we can have a recast T'challa , I would love to have a universe where Black Panther ( Aldi's H. ) and Doom are both working in that world.
Spidey has to be working the streets in the first act before he gets pulled back into the multiverse battle.
Can't wait for this
I agree. Venom is the only option. I don't think they need to bring in Tom Hardy since there was a piece of venom in the universe already. But definitely give him the black suit!!!
Always amazing
I can't wait for more Spidey!!!
I’m not sure how they’ll reconcile Tom Hardy’s Venom with the Secret Wars Venom but I look forward to seeing how they’ll do it.
many of us are still just wanting them to do good on that on that Scorpion tease tbh
If I were to posit-- I'd assume they'd cross Venom over with Spider-Man with this next installment while it still makes sense to do so. Being that it's the Multiverse Saga, and all. They'd might as well capitalize on the opportunity while it's still narratively viable. Especially considering the history between Secret Wars, and the Black Suit. It'd also be a smart move for Marvel, as It'd require much less last-minute exposition with regard to the symbiote since Tom Hardy's Venom is already a well-established character/ franchise of it's own. Then, with the fifth installment post-Secret Wars-- we get a more "street level", personal story with Tom Holland's Spider-Man coming to terms with everything that's happened, and changed following Dr. Doom's shenanigans, while also potentially teeing up a collaboration between He, and Miles Morales for the succeeding title. Lastly, the third film in Tom Holland's second trilogy & sixth film overall will center around the Sinister Six, with one such member possibly being the long-awaited return of Mac Gargan finally donning his Scorpion Suit. With Peter Parker either taking them on alone, or teaming up with Miles Morales in the event that he actually makes an appearance in these next few titles.
This seems to be where Sony & Marvel are headed. But then again, they don't always venture down the path that makes the most sense. But I believe we'll be satisfied, and surprised with whatever route they decide to take next.
Honestly I think we all assumed the venom symbiot suit would be introduced at the end of Spiderman 4 and I can still see Sony releasing this tease even if it's only a small scene at the end ofvthe movie but time will tell
Well I know it’s early but let’s see if Sony can keep the rights to the ip first.
Venom in spider-man 4 is a must
Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock/Venom in Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 is a good idea. But please, no Knull. Save him for the future. I want Michael Mando's Mac Gargan/Scorpion to be the main villain in the next Spidey movie, after that tease in Spider-Man: Homecoming!
Wait, which one is Spider-Man?
Tom Holland Spider Man
What kind of question is that?
I actually don't think most people mind the multiverse so much as the idea that this entire saga has been called the multiverse saga while the multiverse itself has had no significant impact on any of the storytelling. FF choosing to start in a different universe will probably be the first time anyone sees anything like it and I still don't expect that universe to be terribly different.
My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update
-The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
-All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
-Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
-The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
•[@-Agent Carter]
9. Avengers
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
•[DS@-The Defenders]
•[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
•[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1]
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
•[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
•[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
18. Capt. America: civil war
•[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
•[@-Inhumans saga]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
•[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)]
•[%-Helstrom]
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Venom 3 ($)
57. Ms. Marvel
58. The marvels
•[@-X-men 96]
59. X-men 97
•[%-Fox X-men saga]
•[%-The new mutants]
60. Deadpool
61. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Fox Punisher]
•[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
62. Wolverine and Deadpool
63. Agatha all along
64. The eternals
65. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
66. Thunderbolts(€)
-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways.
-I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
-I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
Unreleased content as of 11/19/24:
1.Thunderbolts(€)
2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Fantastic 4
4Avengers: Doomsday
5.Avengers: Secret wars
6.Daredevil: born again
7.Ironheart
8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
9.Marvel zombies
10.Kraven
11.eyes of wakanda
12.Xmen97 S:2
13.What if… S:3
14.Wonder man
15.Spider-man Noir
16.Dr. Strange 3
17.Spider-man 4
18.The Midnight sons
19.Blade?
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
It’s all connected
Hopefully this is true this will be dope.
I really hope they don"t make him the bad guy in the film again!
I WANT to see Venom in Spiderman 4!
Dr.Doom is an Avengers villain, so he won’t work, and Knull is an avengers level villain that needs more time to build up and he won’t work in a solo Spider-Man movie. I say they should bring back Mysterio and have it so that he is alive and working side by side with Dr.Doom to help create the ultimate illusion on the new alternate 616 earth
Venom coming to Spider-Man? I’m sure we are all surprised. 😂
Doesn’t matter where spidey shows up he’s a spider just give us Spider-Man !!!!!
Putting Venom in Spider-Man 4 will turn out as well as when they did it in Spider-Man 3.
They better bring them together while they have the chance
Can't wait to see Venom join the MCU!
Sony leaking stuff like this is just so sony 🤣
Sony screwed up, they should have let marvel use him at the end of Hawkeye when they were in the same location at the ice rink. Fools
I just want the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man with a grounded story in NYC.
I am super stoked and hoping for Venom
"A Gargantuan Gorilla Gaurding a Gaggle of Geese from Greedy Gargoyles Gargling Grease." You heard here first folks! I had no thoughts on Spider-Man and Venom.
Can't wait
Yooooo im with it im with!!
if there's a team up in Spider-Man 4 i would prefer it to be with Daredevil not Venom but since it's Sony i am sure they will do something stupid.
All of the Venom's vs all of the Spider-Men.
It would be great at some point to have dome big bads versing each other in the midst of going against the good guys.
I'd love to see Spidey and Daredevil together
They better bring out the black suit for secret wars and don't forget miles fr
I’m just ready for Sony to give up
One od those things that is overdue. I would like to see
ANti venom.
If this is really true… this is gonna be so good!