Useless info: the passengers at the beginning are talking in Slovak. They are discussing weather and the temperature difference they feel (between Denmark and Slovakia, probably).
@@jamesc3753 Zapadoslovaci :D Cisto zo zvedavosti, ale ako si sa tu ocitol? Zaujimaju ta zvuky VVVF invertorov, alebo si si chcel z nostalgie popocuvat zvuky vlakov v Kodani?
I know, right? I've heard of diesel-mechanical transmission but I had never heard any until I filmed this ride. According to someone else I might have completely mislabeled the gear numbers :(
@@daveb0789 It was cheaper and easier to just take the V8 diesel and automatic transmission from a bus/truck, and not having to buy a gen-set and an electric drivetrain.
As of December 2021, all the ME diesel-electric and EA electric locomotives have been replaced by Siemens Vectron electric locomotives. So no more big diesel-electric locomotives underground. The MF (IC3) and the few MG (IC4) that still work will however continue to run until 2025+, likely longer as the electrification of west Denmark is taking far longer than it should
A little sidenote about the MF gearbox - it jumps every other gear until 8 or 9, so for example, it would shit 1-3-5-7-9-10-11-12 or 2-4-6-8-9-10-11-12.
The IC3 (MF) trains were originally outfitted with a 6-speed automatic transmission, but this got replaced with the 12-speed manual transmission they have today when DSB switched out the powerpacks in 2005-2006.
@@olesrensen7819 seems to be using the automated manual 12 speed zf transmission used in trucks. Usually happens because the 6 speed fully auto zf can’t handle high horsepower / torque. Wonder why they didn’t use a Voith transmission as used in the UK for its diesel units.
@@daveb0789 I wonder that too, having ridden one recently. The sound of these is awesome though, like a manual transmission in a truck with the driver perfectly matching revs each gear change. Had to actually look up whether it was a manual shift as it sounds like it is.
Hi! I am very intresterd in the danish DSB trains, now ofc i live in denmark and soon i have to take one to odense in fyn. And i am vary i stumbles across this video because i am trying to... Well study them lol.. You didn’t but ic3 i think.
The class ME diesel-electric locomotive has the prime mover used in numerous locomotives from the USA. It's a 2-stroke engine with a turbocharger that is gear-driven at lower speeds, and it has an override clutch that lets the turbo spool up by it's own when there is enough exhaust pressure to do so. They are also a "uniflow" design - there are NO intake valves, only exhaust valves, of which there are 4 per cylinder. Intake air comes through ports on the side walls of the cylinders. These are also somewhat big engines, compared to some other locomotive engines, as they do not rev as high - only up to 900RPM. But of course, they make more torque. One interesting note: These engines do not have a cast engine block! The engine block is made from welded steel. The precursor designs were originally meant to be used in war ships around WWII, because the welded steel frame can better withstand the shock from a torpedo blast, compared to a cast iron engine block. And because it is welded, it is somewhat easy to repair if there is a catastrophic failure while in voyage (on a ship, obviously). The original engines actually used a blower instead of a turbocharger, giving them a distinct operating noise as well.
@@MrAskeKaiser Its because there are no bi modes in Denmark and loads of lines are not electrified and it saves alot of time compared to having to change locomotive whenever you change between electric and diesel lines.
Useless info: the passengers at the beginning are talking in Slovak. They are discussing weather and the temperature difference they feel (between Denmark and Slovakia, probably).
😂 tiez som to zaregistroval
@@jamesc3753 Zapadoslovaci :D
Cisto zo zvedavosti, ale ako si sa tu ocitol? Zaujimaju ta zvuky VVVF invertorov, alebo si si chcel z nostalgie popocuvat zvuky vlakov v Kodani?
pakan357 bolo v odporúčaných
@@jamesc3753 No jo, tak to je dobra nahodicka. UA-cam exceluje posledny rok s tymi odporucaniami nekedy. Pekny vecer.
1:46 the sound of my childhood... Heard that every day on my way to and from school growing up.
So cool! I never heard a train with gears before!
I know, right? I've heard of diesel-mechanical transmission but I had never heard any until I filmed this ride. According to someone else I might have completely mislabeled the gear numbers :(
I wonder why diesel mechanical is used over diesel electric transmission sometimes ?
@@daveb0789 mostly because the MF series is built for acceleration rather than speed
@@daveb0789 It was cheaper and easier to just take the V8 diesel and automatic transmission from a bus/truck, and not having to buy a gen-set and an electric drivetrain.
@@sjokomelk i used to work on parts for the locos, and as far as I've heard that this is the exact reason why
those class me engines are awesome! they’re basically EMD GP40-2s in a larger shell, and those 16-645s give it away.
It's the same engine I guess
As of December 2021, all the ME diesel-electric and EA electric locomotives have been replaced by Siemens Vectron electric locomotives. So no more big diesel-electric locomotives underground. The MF (IC3) and the few MG (IC4) that still work will however continue to run until 2025+, likely longer as the electrification of west Denmark is taking far longer than it should
A little sidenote about the MF gearbox - it jumps every other gear until 8 or 9, so for example, it would shit 1-3-5-7-9-10-11-12 or 2-4-6-8-9-10-11-12.
Thanks for pointing it out! I annotated the video simply because I was amazed to hear a gear change on a train, in person.
The IC3 (MF) trains were originally outfitted with a 6-speed automatic transmission, but this got replaced with the 12-speed manual transmission they have today when DSB switched out the powerpacks in 2005-2006.
@@olesrensen7819 seems to be using the automated manual 12 speed zf transmission used in trucks. Usually happens because the 6 speed fully auto zf can’t handle high horsepower / torque. Wonder why they didn’t use a Voith transmission as used in the UK for its diesel units.
@@daveb0789 I wonder that too, having ridden one recently. The sound of these is awesome though, like a manual transmission in a truck with the driver perfectly matching revs each gear change. Had to actually look up whether it was a manual shift as it sounds like it is.
The Øresundståg is also Called litra ET and a ME locomotive is only diesel, not electified
Linus Greve the Class ME is a diesel-electric, the prime mover drives an alternator which provides power to the electric traction motors in the axles.
DSB Class ME Are EMD Built Locomotive. They Also Built BB200, BB201, BB202, CC202 & CC205
Hi! I am very intresterd in the danish DSB trains, now ofc i live in denmark and soon i have to take one to odense in fyn. And i am vary i stumbles across this video because i am trying to...
Well study them lol..
You didn’t but ic3 i think.
DSB SA Series VVVF Sound Were Similar To Tokyo Metro 6000 Set 6101F And NJT Arrow 3
Thanks for pointing it out, but I haven't quite found the twist heard on Class SA whenever it departs...
3:12 for great engine sounds.
The class ME diesel-electric locomotive has the prime mover used in numerous locomotives from the USA. It's a 2-stroke engine with a turbocharger that is gear-driven at lower speeds, and it has an override clutch that lets the turbo spool up by it's own when there is enough exhaust pressure to do so.
They are also a "uniflow" design - there are NO intake valves, only exhaust valves, of which there are 4 per cylinder. Intake air comes through ports on the side walls of the cylinders.
These are also somewhat big engines, compared to some other locomotive engines, as they do not rev as high - only up to 900RPM. But of course, they make more torque.
One interesting note: These engines do not have a cast engine block! The engine block is made from welded steel. The precursor designs were originally meant to be used in war ships around WWII, because the welded steel frame can better withstand the shock from a torpedo blast, compared to a cast iron engine block. And because it is welded, it is somewhat easy to repair if there is a catastrophic failure while in voyage (on a ship, obviously).
The original engines actually used a blower instead of a turbocharger, giving them a distinct operating noise as well.
Wow that's really cool! Thanks for sharing this. No wonder it sounds similar to some locomotives in North America :)
Too bad you diddent hear the Ic3, when it was powered by a V8 diesel. Theese are only 6 cylinders.
6.53 DSB litra ME 1509
1:45 Siemens?
5:06 It sounds like 日立IGBT
5:06 also sounds like Kintetsu 80000 (Hinotori)
@@indra144 No its an adtranz IGBT converter
@@coolsadface3444 øresundståg uses Adtranz, meanwhile the Kintetsu 80000 uses MELCO
The Metro sounds like a M32 tram.
true cuz i live in gothenburg
M32 was also made by AnsaldoBreda
Sounds like T68A and T69 at the start
Nice:)
2:22 sounds like the 3800 trams of Valencia
Diesel loco in a closed underground station is weird
Absolutely, and there's really no reason for it. Thankfully, they are being replaced by Vectrons.
@@MrAskeKaiser Yes its becuse if it was an staiton that was on the ground it would take up to mutch space ur relly an american boy thing.
@@coolsadface3444 It's the diesel loco part I'm commenting on, not the underground station thing. I'm from Copenhagen and use this station often.
@@MrAskeKaiser Its because there are no bi modes in Denmark and loads of lines are not electrified and it saves alot of time compared to having to change locomotive whenever you change between electric and diesel lines.
0:50 my 2002 Prius in a nutshell...
Is looks like a Gothenburg tram
The s tog sounds like a br 186 at first!
DSB and Transdev drive Øresundstoget
5:10 it sounds almost like HITACHI Class 800
We finished it off
1:50 It's the same sound of Cofesbra 2000 lol
1:55 SIEMENS?
Siemens did play a role!
C651?
It is Siemens
Liker motoren i X31K og IC3
C321 Sound