This project was long overdue. These dams and their electrical generating equipment were antiquated and cost more to keep operating than they were worth which is why the power companies had no problem with their removal, especially with the government footing the cost. It's a shame some people are so narrow minded and ignorant of the cost benefit of project like this that they have to criticize everything environmentally friendly just because it is. This is a win for the environment, a win for Native Americans, a win for commercial fishermen, a win for sports fishermen, and a win for the power companies that had replaced the generating capacity of these out of date relics long before the project even began.
In fact, there are literally HUNDREDS of little dams like these all over north America which were all built over 100 years ago. The powerhouses are woefully inefficient, the dams are all crumbling, the enviromental damage they have done to the rivers they damn has been unbelieveable. So, many of them are in the process of being removed. !
I bet that there is a solution to be able to restore the ecosystem and at the same time to be able to have a greater sustainable energy source along this river.
There is exactly that solution. Removing the dams will restore the river. The greater sustainable energy solution is to get the power elsewhere from a clean source. The dams produced little power. Equivalent power output can be made up from a 6-acre solar farm. Oregon has hundreds of them.
Substantial vegetation will take a long tome. The sediment is very compacted and holds little oxygen for larger vegetation to take hold. I would suspect it will take 10-15 years for larger local growth to be of any size beyond scrub growth.
More like 10 years or 20 years the river was pretty much wiped out millions of fish killed billions of crawdads and muscles plus all the fish that were in the river so the ecosystem is pretty much been annihilated the deep holes that went sustained fish so they can cool down that were 8 to 10 feet are now 6 in deep due to all the sludge in the mud
It’s outrageous. Someone comes along destroys your lifestyle, disrupts your family with no regard to your health and safety. Who do they think you are native Americans?
I Live along the upper Klamath River! And its A disaster. They killed millions of Fish there's no life left in the River. There won't be a single Fish coming up the river for many years to come the River has 18in of toxic Sediment in it. The only thing that you will catch in the Klamath River is a disease. Hope's and Dreams don't always come true. This was was a big mistake.
Millions of native fish were killed millions of non-native fish were killed billions of other River creatures such as crawdads and muscles were also killed. The ecosystem has been devastated and wiped out. Not to mention 1.3 million salmon that were released just after the dams were blasted. That's when they dumped 830, 000 salmon into a river that was filled with dead fish.
Water? Who needs it. All those teslas in CA? Who needs electricity. Let’s see how long it takes for people who advocated for this to complaint about water supply and energy blackouts.
Overheated, diseased green reservoirs? Who needs it. 2% of local energy production? LOL. Let's see how long the "oppressed" locals will whine and parrot hydropower/rancher lobby talking points.
These dams were not supporting irrigation and had a minuscule water supply presence. Also, the dams had no financial argument to sustain them, the literally cost more to keep than to remove. They generated 2-3% of the power generation from the power company. Wind was providing more than these dams, as was solar.
@@pacificcarpophagous right. We shall see how this “minuscule” amount of water is missed during the drought years and during rolling blackouts that solar and wind are doing which a great job keeping up with.
@@tombeno8746 nope no whining here. That was all the free the dam proponents. Not gullible at all. Will just sit back and watch California even further self destruct. Enjoy your day!
We will live to regret the loss of electricity capacity. Electric cars, data centers, winter and summer weather demands. Well, we could go fishing in our gasoline vehicles?
The Klamath dam produced almost no electric compared to how much it cost the power can easily be replaced with anything else such as nuclear, solar, or wind
This project was long overdue. These dams and their electrical generating equipment were antiquated and cost more to keep operating than they were worth which is why the power companies had no problem with their removal, especially with the government footing the cost. It's a shame some people are so narrow minded and ignorant of the cost benefit of project like this that they have to criticize everything environmentally friendly just because it is. This is a win for the environment, a win for Native Americans, a win for commercial fishermen, a win for sports fishermen, and a win for the power companies that had replaced the generating capacity of these out of date relics long before the project even began.
In fact, there are literally HUNDREDS of little dams like these all over north America which were all built over 100 years ago.
The powerhouses are woefully inefficient, the dams are all crumbling, the enviromental damage they have done to the rivers
they damn has been unbelieveable. So, many of them are in the process of being removed.
!
I bet that there is a solution to be able to restore the ecosystem and at the same time to be able to have a greater sustainable energy source along this river.
There is exactly that solution. Removing the dams will restore the river. The greater sustainable energy solution is to get the power elsewhere from a clean source. The dams produced little power. Equivalent power output can be made up from a 6-acre solar farm. Oregon has hundreds of them.
Well, there ya go. 🥴
How long will it take for the river to recover from all the sediment???
Probably about a year to a year and a half
@@fallencobra5197 I'd say more like 4-6...
Substantial vegetation will take a long tome. The sediment is very compacted and holds little oxygen for larger vegetation to take hold. I would suspect it will take 10-15 years for larger local growth to be of any size beyond scrub growth.
@@shaunl446 I'd also be afraid of large amounts of sediment moving during heavy rains and changing the river bed and causing flooding.
More like 10 years or 20 years the river was pretty much wiped out millions of fish killed billions of crawdads and muscles plus all the fish that were in the river so the ecosystem is pretty much been annihilated the deep holes that went sustained fish so they can cool down that were 8 to 10 feet are now 6 in deep due to all the sludge in the mud
That you think nobody considered the long term consequences of destroying the dams before the decision was finalized is hilarious 🤔 😆
This was a desades long process with tons of public input.
It’s outrageous. Someone comes along destroys your lifestyle, disrupts your family with no regard to your health and safety. Who do they think you are native Americans?
@@masd107😂 funny, but sad too.
You must completely destroy all life in the Klamath before you restore. So brilliant!
One of the worst ecological disasters to a river ever
You must completely turn off your brain and regurgitate some more FUD bullsh!t. So clever!
@@johnhoag2690 One of the most hilariously fake comments on a topic that draws bottomfeeder bots constantly
Who said that? You?
I Live along the upper Klamath River! And its A disaster. They killed millions of Fish there's no life left in the River. There won't be a single Fish coming up the river for many years to come the River has 18in of toxic Sediment in it. The only thing that you will catch in the Klamath River is a disease. Hope's and Dreams don't always come true. This was was a big mistake.
Non Native fish are of no interest.
Right, the same whining FUD you post on every other dam removal video.
If you repeat this nonsense on every Klamath dam removal video maybe some remedial child will believe it.
Millions of native fish were killed millions of non-native fish were killed billions of other River creatures such as crawdads and muscles were also killed. The ecosystem has been devastated and wiped out.
Not to mention 1.3 million salmon that were released just after the dams were blasted. That's when they dumped 830, 000 salmon into a river that was filled with dead fish.
@@johnhoag2690 Tell us more of the latest fake numbers and FUD from the hydropower lobby.
Water? Who needs it. All those teslas in CA? Who needs electricity.
Let’s see how long it takes for people who advocated for this to complaint about water supply and energy blackouts.
Overheated, diseased green reservoirs? Who needs it. 2% of local energy production? LOL.
Let's see how long the "oppressed" locals will whine and parrot hydropower/rancher lobby talking points.
These dams were not supporting irrigation and had a minuscule water supply presence. Also, the dams had no financial argument to sustain them, the literally cost more to keep than to remove. They generated 2-3% of the power generation from the power company. Wind was providing more than these dams, as was solar.
@@pacificcarpophagous right. We shall see how this “minuscule” amount of water is missed during the drought years and during rolling blackouts that solar and wind are doing which a great job keeping up with.
@@misterjaayy6156 Yes we will, and your whining and FUD will be forgotten. But I'm sure the hydropower lobbyists appreciate your gullibility.
@@tombeno8746 nope no whining here. That was all the free the dam proponents. Not gullible at all. Will just sit back and watch California even further self destruct.
Enjoy your day!
We will live to regret the loss of electricity capacity. Electric cars, data centers, winter and summer weather demands. Well, we could go fishing in our gasoline vehicles?
OH noes, 2% of local energy production! A "tragedy".
@@tombeno8746 Enjoy the coming “brown outs”! Love the cold and heat….
@@deanjoon1527 Enjoy the uninformed nonsense that exists in your mind and in hydropower lobby FUD...
The Klamath dam produced almost no electric compared to how much it cost the power can easily be replaced with anything else such as nuclear, solar, or wind
"I don't care what they told you in school, my Grandmother says these dams produced all the power we consume" @deanjoon1527, probably.