Incredible explanation! I have my roots in boxing and muay thai for 7 years, funnily enough I only joined a muay thai school because I couldn't find any kung fu nearby.. After becoming a proficient fighter I realized that most of what I had seen in movies probably never worked and turned my back on kungfu. As I kept progressing, I started really getting into the subtleties of boxing and how much difference it makes to shift your weight at different times, twist your shoulder inward, stomp with the rear foot..etc when it comes to generating different kinds of power, and it felt like I was starting to hit a plateau as the information I could find seemed contradicting and non conclusive, except for a few gems like dempsey's championship fighting, and then I slowly started getting back into kungfu after this one video that was explaining the mechanics of a punch from an internal point of view and I was fascinated by the level of descriptive detail, I thought why do they not have such simple ways to teach striking in modern martial arts? The most instruction you will get on power generation is twisting the hips and maintaining sound body structure, if it's elite teaching you will get taught the drop step.. But for the most part gyms will just teach you the external form and let you figure it out on your own, most people don't by the way, ony a select few of us in the gym ever figured out proper explosive punching, and less of us kicking. And this is not to mention the extreme deficiency in breathing awareness beyond stamina management and recovery, I had to learn all of that on my own pulling from other martial arts like karate and taekwondo. Don't get me wrong there is incredible value in "modern martial arts" especially when it comes to simplicity and sparring, however I feel like the ridicule of systems like kung fu is a classic case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, so much sophistication and clarity that's missing in today's martial arts is to be found in these often discarded systems, and this is why I embarked on a journey of exploring and mastering various kungfu styles, sometimes I get that little voice of skepticism in the back of my head, but videos like this remind me why I started. Thank you.
God solid Boof. 💥😉👍a cross punch, my rule of thumb is, it’s a bonus punch. A linker. It finishes. It links. Not used alone though. Isolated to demonstrate yes. Thrown by itself. Throws off the balance. That said. That’s one hell of a shot you have there. I do everything empty handed. No pads. More realistic on the forearm and hands. ☮️🤛💥☺️👍just ideas. 😉🙏
Thanks for this clarity. Been wondering about this for a while now. I'd love to see footage of a boxing vs. Yiquan bout. Question: is that chopping cross pretty much the same as the systema cross?
Thanks. Given the adherence to boxing rules and regulations I still believe the average boxer would destroy most Yiquan guys. 1 year of amateur boxing experience with sparring wouid give a person a decent foundation, fitness level and self awareness. 1 year Yiquan how it’s mostly taught would give very little except delusion and the ability to troll and argue on social media how their master is the best. I’m not familiar with systema so couldn’t comment on that. Thanks again.
According to your experience, is there a way Yiquan could deal with a crabbling attack by a wrestler or one doing BJJ? I often hear people claiming this would not be possible but I'm in doubt about that. Perhaps sometimes you could share your opinion about that. Thanks.
It’s a good and fair question. Often it will depend on the level of the practitioner, fir example dealing with a very skilled and experienced bjj or wrestler is a different proposition from someone who knows a bit and likewise with Yiquan. In Yiquan we the aim is to use whole body structure and power and also absorb and redirect the opponents energy. Of course many other martial arts claim the same such as aikido but few can demo in real time against an unrehearsed and unkind opponent. I will try to make a video soon to show my perspective on this from a grapplers attack. 👍🏻
Great video, I have never seen it explained like this. One quick question: Curious to understand why internal vs. external differences aren't really important. Thanks.
It’s really just down to definitions on what is internal. Everyone has a different view from putting a label on a selection of arts to defining specific body mechanics. I have mine too. It’s become a silly meaningless comment in my eyes by non fighters and trolls who look at a person or movement and simply comment “that’s not internal”.
@@jcyiquan1359 Do you feel there are differences between internal and external arts? If so, do they make a real difference in fighting ability? I live in YUMA AZ and cannot find a Tai Chi teacher. I want to learn push hands and improve my form but find it hard on the internet/video. Thanks.
@@utubeviewing1 I don't know anyone in Yuma, but Monk Yunrou is teaching Beijing Chen style in Tucson. I actually study I Liq Chuan, and Ashe Higgs is in Tempe. Kelley Graham is in Tucson. I think some of Ashe's students are starting ILC groups in other parts of AZ. If I were to move back to the US, I'd either be going to PHX where I have family, or looking at something in SoCal between San Diego and L.A. where I could train with Ashe at least once a month. Good luck with your search 👍
@@KungfuandKettlebells Thanks! I will be able to go to Tempe once a week. How do I contact Ashe Higgs? Does he teach tai chi and push hands? Thanks. Geoffrey Hart
@@utubeviewing1 Ashe only teaches I Liq Chuan. We do spinning hands and sticky hands. Ashe is on UA-cam under Falling Leaves Kungfu, or you can look him up at that website, or the official I Liq Chuan website. I know of a guy who probably knows some Taiji people around the Valley, but he's a little bit weird and tends to exaggerate people's level of skill. There's also Monk Yunrou in Tucson. You may know him under his birth name, Arthur Rosenfeld. He used to have a TV show about Taiji and has written several books. He does the Chen FaKe stuff, and he's a very nice guy.
Incredible explanation! I have my roots in boxing and muay thai for 7 years, funnily enough I only joined a muay thai school because I couldn't find any kung fu nearby.. After becoming a proficient fighter I realized that most of what I had seen in movies probably never worked and turned my back on kungfu. As I kept progressing, I started really getting into the subtleties of boxing and how much difference it makes to shift your weight at different times, twist your shoulder inward, stomp with the rear foot..etc when it comes to generating different kinds of power, and it felt like I was starting to hit a plateau as the information I could find seemed contradicting and non conclusive, except for a few gems like dempsey's championship fighting, and then I slowly started getting back into kungfu after this one video that was explaining the mechanics of a punch from an internal point of view and I was fascinated by the level of descriptive detail, I thought why do they not have such simple ways to teach striking in modern martial arts? The most instruction you will get on power generation is twisting the hips and maintaining sound body structure, if it's elite teaching you will get taught the drop step.. But for the most part gyms will just teach you the external form and let you figure it out on your own, most people don't by the way, ony a select few of us in the gym ever figured out proper explosive punching, and less of us kicking. And this is not to mention the extreme deficiency in breathing awareness beyond stamina management and recovery, I had to learn all of that on my own pulling from other martial arts like karate and taekwondo. Don't get me wrong there is incredible value in "modern martial arts" especially when it comes to simplicity and sparring, however I feel like the ridicule of systems like kung fu is a classic case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, so much sophistication and clarity that's missing in today's martial arts is to be found in these often discarded systems, and this is why I embarked on a journey of exploring and mastering various kungfu styles, sometimes I get that little voice of skepticism in the back of my head, but videos like this remind me why I started. Thank you.
I love how the punch just gets stronger and stronger with each technique. The sound is a good indicator.
Very clever ty.
I’d say the main difference is head movement/blocking. 🙏🏻
God solid Boof. 💥😉👍a cross punch, my rule of thumb is, it’s a bonus punch. A linker. It finishes. It links. Not used alone though. Isolated to demonstrate yes. Thrown by itself. Throws off the balance. That said. That’s one hell of a shot you have there. I do everything empty handed. No pads. More realistic on the forearm and hands. ☮️🤛💥☺️👍just ideas. 😉🙏
great stuff!
Thanks for this clarity. Been wondering about this for a while now. I'd love to see footage of a boxing vs. Yiquan bout. Question: is that chopping cross pretty much the same as the systema cross?
Thanks. Given the adherence to boxing rules and regulations I still believe the average boxer would destroy most Yiquan guys. 1 year of amateur boxing experience with sparring wouid give a person a decent foundation, fitness level and self awareness. 1 year Yiquan how it’s mostly taught would give very little except delusion and the ability to troll and argue on social media how their master is the best. I’m not familiar with systema so couldn’t comment on that. Thanks again.
@@jcyiquan1359 probably one of the reasons why Yao Zongxun incorporated some boxing methods into his Yiquan realising boxing had so much to offer.
According to your experience, is there a way Yiquan could deal with a crabbling attack by a wrestler or one doing BJJ? I often hear people claiming this would not be possible but I'm in doubt about that. Perhaps sometimes you could share your opinion about that. Thanks.
It’s a good and fair question. Often it will depend on the level of the practitioner, fir example dealing with a very skilled and experienced bjj or wrestler is a different proposition from someone who knows a bit and likewise with Yiquan. In Yiquan we the aim is to use whole body structure and power and also absorb and redirect the opponents energy. Of course many other martial arts claim the same such as aikido but few can demo in real time against an unrehearsed and unkind opponent. I will try to make a video soon to show my perspective on this from a grapplers attack. 👍🏻
@@jcyiquan1359 Thank you very much. And you are totally right, it's not the art as such but the practitioner who makes the difference.
@@boxing.ascetic agreed 👍🏻
Sometimes you get the bear sometimes it gets you
Excellent demo.
Great video, I have never seen it explained like this. One quick question: Curious to understand why internal vs. external differences aren't really important. Thanks.
It’s really just down to definitions on what is internal. Everyone has a different view from putting a label on a selection of arts to defining specific body mechanics. I have mine too. It’s become a silly meaningless comment in my eyes by non fighters and trolls who look at a person or movement and simply comment “that’s not internal”.
@@jcyiquan1359 Do you feel there are differences between internal and external arts? If so, do they make a real difference in fighting ability? I live in YUMA AZ and cannot find a Tai Chi teacher. I want to learn push hands and improve my form but find it hard on the internet/video. Thanks.
@@utubeviewing1 I don't know anyone in Yuma, but Monk Yunrou is teaching Beijing Chen style in Tucson.
I actually study I Liq Chuan, and Ashe Higgs is in Tempe. Kelley Graham is in Tucson.
I think some of Ashe's students are starting ILC groups in other parts of AZ.
If I were to move back to the US, I'd either be going to PHX where I have family, or looking at something in SoCal between San Diego and L.A. where I could train with Ashe at least once a month.
Good luck with your search 👍
@@KungfuandKettlebells Thanks! I will be able to go to Tempe once a week. How do I contact Ashe Higgs? Does he teach tai chi and push hands? Thanks. Geoffrey Hart
@@utubeviewing1 Ashe only teaches I Liq Chuan. We do spinning hands and sticky hands.
Ashe is on UA-cam under Falling Leaves Kungfu, or you can look him up at that website, or the official I Liq Chuan website.
I know of a guy who probably knows some Taiji people around the Valley, but he's a little bit weird and tends to exaggerate people's level of skill.
There's also Monk Yunrou in Tucson. You may know him under his birth name, Arthur Rosenfeld. He used to have a TV show about Taiji and has written several books. He does the Chen FaKe stuff, and he's a very nice guy.
With all due respect, too much talking.