@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Ashford is one of the best book-to-show improvements I've seen in any adaption. They took a cartoonishly inept villain and made him into one of the most beloved characters on the show.
Ehh they both had ideas that each other could somewhat see a small outcome of it. In the end Marcos methods cause everyone to start to take the belters serious, real respect. Ashford could only see the death toll but not the end end picture. If you guyshaven’t watched season 5 yet. With Ashford and drummers method they still would be struggling with gaining respect and the fact that earth n somewhat Mars still wasn’t taking the belters serious. All they saw were hobos in a make believe barge playing navy.
@@Audi2Gunz I've seen season 5 but please don't post spoilers like that; do you seriously believe attempted or successful genocide earns respect? And, without S5 spoilers, there's a difference between taking a threat seriously and taking a group of people seriously. Wouldn't Earth want revenge and apply it to any Belters not just Marco's faction? Wouldn't the efforts of any Earther wishing to secure peace and make amends for years of exploitation now face more severe obstacles within their own systems of power? The Belters would still be viewed as hobos in a make believe barge playing navy (lol, spot on Cyborg) but now they are dangerous war criminals.
@@delprie I supoose more recognition then respect. He was only a notorious pirate freedom fighter before that. And if earthers want revenge and confront the first belters they see then those belters will have a choice to make about what kind of belter they wanna be. A peace belter(forgive and forget) or a hateful belter and rally to Marcos side. But after all those Mars side dealings I’m sure they will no longer be poor hobos on a derelict ship, nooo, They will be free men and freeeedooom!! Yeah idk pirates was playing wen I did this comment. But with out spoilers I can’t really say much more. My new watcher already figured out the plot and I didn’t start season 5 for em yet. I dread season 5, only the son and mother part, that damn kid is such a cry baby. Oooh I want a loving mommy but I can’t see that my dad is a freaking psycho like my moms been telling me.
I just want to remind you guys.. Way back when in Season 1, Episode 4 - CQB, this piece of dialog happened. "Avasarala's Grandson #1 : [sky peering on the rooftop] They're nothing to be scared of, you know. They're just little rocks that burn up in the sky. Chrisjen Avasarala : They're not always so little. Avasarala's Grandson #1 : You mean like the one that killed the dinosaurs? Chrisjen Avasarala : Uh-huh. Avasarala's Grandson #1 : Okay, that rock was big. But that hardly ever happens. Like winning the lottery. Chrisjen Avasarala : I worry about people who throw rocks." Just another little detail I appreciate about this show. Everything is connected.
And, also in season 1, Avasarala questioned a belter who was carrying stealth tech, which most people assumed was to do with the stealth ships, but he was really working for Marco
Rewatching multiple times reveals just how many clues there are in the first series, practically every scene is connected to the bigger picture in one way or another. Extremely clever writing.
@@0hMax Also when uncle Mateo and Diogo get harrashed by the Martian patrol , when they acuse them of destroying the Donnager Mateo says "and how would we done that? throwing rocks at it?" . Now skip to the battle of the ring when a Donnager class gets nearly destroyed by rocks thrown at her from something/somewhere that 4 episodes later is identified in a display Marco is looking as "MATEO"
FF: Gorman accidentally made actual contact in that punch. Amos' lip really WAS split and bloody. Like Viggo Mortensen breaking his toe, Wes just rolled it into the performance. That "Thank you" migjt have been Wes to Gorman rather than Amos to Murty.
What impressed me is that there are hints at Marco's plot in very first season, which I only realized somewhere at this point. That belter Avasarala was interrogating regarding stealth compounds. It was an operative of Inaros.
Holy cow! I always thought that that the belter torture stuff was basically a dropped storyline or something, since it didn't seem to go anywhere in the first seasons.
yes, that was the protogen ships, the stealth paint inaros used was being bought directly from mars from corrupt officials. the same way he gets a bunch of high tech ships later.
Marco Inaros.... There are only a handful of villans that have gotten under my skin so much; everytime he's on screen I want to do physical harm to him. That's a credit to the actor's good portrayal. Buckle up guys, you're in for a ride with season 5😊
This show does such a great job with character growth. Like many, I disliked Ashford at first, but then I grew to love him and cried when he died. The actor did a great job.
The show is absolutely amazing, the books are even better. I can't believe that there are nine books that started from a couple friends playing a DnD style game.
They say TV and Movie adaptations aren't great but here we see how Ashford was brought up from a petty antagonist in the books to a great character we can feel sad about seeing go. Tilly Go my friend.
Supposedly, David Stratharin had so much fun playing Ashford he asked if they could use him after season 3. So glad they brought him back. I also forgot that he played the guy who put together the Womens Baseball League in "A League of Thier Own". But I still remembered him from Alphas and Bourne Supremecy or Ultimatium... I get those mixed up.
CANT believe were already at end of S4. Long live Klaes Ashford. Still pissed he’s gone. Amazing character and so well acted with an absolute badass ending few scenes. Avarasala’s message to Gao was the epitome of class. Followed by classic Avarasala with Bobbie’s message. CANT wait for you to watch s5! Best season of Drummer acting (and Amos and Naomi!) yet.
This is the most rewatchable TV show I've ever seen. You will notice so much that supports the detailed world-building, writing nuances that aren't strictly necessary but are sublime in illustrating just how well-planned The Expanse is. I'm curious which group, Belter, Earther or Martian you all identify with?
15:24 I think Klaes totally would have just shot Marco and knew doing so would be less dangerous than letting him live; I don’t think he could kill a father in front of his child
Avoiding spoilers, he was hoping to glean information on Marco's plan even at the cost of his own life. Killing Marco won't stop any of his plans that are in motion.
@@vorpalrobot there’s that too, but I think Klaes correctly read the shadow plays to know that killing Marco would derail all his plans… surrendering to Marco was an emotional decision to me, not a strategic one; that said, the contingency of recording Inaros monologuing was clearly a strategic backup Klaes opted for in account of his emotional inability to put Marco down
On season 5 now just about I think they're doing more they better. Man when you guys do something I like leaves me a hundred percent entertained you guys are great! You deserve your own show Legit show Long Live blind wave!
Great reaction guys! To the best damn space pirate that fought to the end for the bigger picture! Die in darkness beratna!! We'll never see his kind again!
The face/thin man you speak of at 26:30 has nothing to do with what Elvie saw or the beings that killed the Builders. That was Miller’s Protomolecule-infested corpse, still sitting on Venus. That showed up in the opening of episode 9, as real Miller was ‘reaching out’ to take control of the Protomolecule projection into Holden’s mind. I know you guys don’t really ever read these comments, but maybe someday you’ll read it, and fix this misunderstanding. The beings that killed the builders, as evidenced by Elvie’s fall through the ‘eye of an angry god’ artifact, appear eel-like.
Remember when the previous secretary(President) whatever his name was asked Christian why she wasn't doing his job. She replied " I like to get shit done. And I prefer to keep my head attached to my body." He responded with "Your father was smart. You're smarter."
Avasarala did an unintentional prediction in S1 when she was with her grandson, she made a comment about being afraid of rocks or something along those lines
remember havelock, millers partner back on ceres and how he kinda disappeared in way that suggested he might come back? this was the season he would have. in the books he's chief of secrurity on the edward israel. his point of view is one of four we get in that book, he's a big part. another character that returned ion that book was basia. we briefly saw him in s2 as a colleque of of prax. in s4 he kinda was replaced by lucia who is his wife in the books. their son was katoa, who did not survive ganymede to later be turned into that caliban-hybrid, but was the kid they found dead in the furnace (after the "pizza-party" as you dubbed it). this is important, because it gives basia motivation to a) move to ilus for a fresh start and b) agree to blow up the landing platform in the first place. i get why they cut out havelock. they probably just couldnt squeeze that in aswell, but i really don't get why they changed basias parts to be played out by lucia
I think that the next season is pretty strong but it's changed a little too much from the books. We'll see I'm excited to see what everyone thinks of season 5
We see the impact of the opening of that vast new frontier, on the societies of the Solar System. A whole lot of people who benefited from a status quo will see that reality start to disintegrate around them. They won't react well.
The protomolecule builders are dead. The species that killed them are still alive, and very dangerous. Drummer being pissed. You have NO IDEA!!!! However, the show will tell you all about that. Great Amos episodes coming up. Great Naomi episodes as well.
Even in the book, I always believe he should have kept the piece of proto. He never know when he would need it. I never like this part of Avasarala 'loosing an election'. One of the most important thing about her is that she was never a politicians even when she has a firm grasp of it. She is a high ranking civil servant, which has very different sets of skills and usually more formable then a politician. This alteration from the book made her look like she is bad at it. She was very good at it, she just never liked being in the spotlight.
I loved how Avasarala described the true nature of just about every political debate: all sides are merely engaging in goofy speculation about what the future may bring and how one policy or the other might influence events. You can fight to get your policy enacted, but there is no reason to hate the people on the other side. If you lose, you can still think you are right, and you can still hope that the policy to be implemented by the winner will not be a disaster. Avasarala never had a chance in an election where the primary issue was keeping the blockade on the ring hub in place or opening the hub for people to emigrate to new systems and have a chance at a real life off of Basic. We don't know at this point in the ongoing story if Avasarala was right to insist on keeping the blockade in place until all the new systems could be fully studied as to any remaining blue goo threat, or, for that matter, and other weird shit still hanging around after a couple of billion years, but I think we will find out.
Btw, there will be more than 6 seasons. The current "run" is just ending after season 6. Just imagine GoT ending with season 8, and then there's House of the Dragons after that. I'm not saying more.
Next season is amazing...but unlike any of the previous. I'm excited to see how the guys react to it. At first, I was bummed that the crew was scattered...but the stories were so compelling that I came around pretty quick.
Season 4 was definitely the worst season finale. A lot of plot holes and stuff that just doesn't make sense. The worst is Ashford seemingly ridiculous plan of bringing in 2 guys with him to board a ship. Then, he has Marco at gun point and decides instead of shooting him and dying that he will just let then throw me out the airlock. I very unfortunate ending to a great character.
I don't think Holden killed Lucia.. he was saying how he would report it as if she got blown into space, despite Naomi's best efforts to save her. As in he would help to fake her death
You're right, and I've had to mull over why this is the case. The first hubby was small in stature, with a small and kindly voice. He was very believable as a husband who was willing to play second fiddle to his brilliant and ruthless wife. The second guy presented himself as a Alpha male who would never have lasted very long as the subservient husband, and his character simply doesn't right true.
I despise the fact that after Holden´s speech about civilization and it´s importance even on a frontier he let the terrorist go. Not meaning to do something or being sorry about it afterwards does not excuse what you do, you have to face consequences just like everyone else. Especially since she hid the truth afterwards. Edit: First time we ever see Chrisjen she is interrogating OPA terrorist about stolen stealth tech. She thought he was working for Belters, latter for Mao. But he was working for Inaros. It was set up in early Season 1. It is now Season 4. I love this show.
Because her position is "This protomolecule stuff is dangerous and we need to properly investigate it before we send millions of hornet-nest-kicking people through the Ring" and the New Terra plotline is all about the swarms of of hornets in these nests humanity is about to kick.
@@Reedstilt LOL the only ones who are not already in a death spiral are the super elite on Earth. Everybody else is just looking for an opportunity to have a chance to survive, or die, on there own terms.
spoiler about the rocks: there is 10 of them.. one fractures arround the sun and never reaches target.. 3 hit.. 3 miss and 3 are intercepted by earth defenses
Just finished my re-watch on season 4, once again. FUCKEN ASHFORD!! 😫 the dreaded season 5. I might call it and switch over to BSG re-watch. The only good part about season 5 is the last episode. But the rest of the books MMMMAAAN. Not sure how a short season 6 could do it justice. Episodes better be 3 hrs long, shooooot!
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Klaes Ashford, The Ghost Knife of Calisto. One of the best characters in TV.
I'd like to see him hold a conversation with Dr. Walter Bishop. 😉
I hated him at first, but he became one of my favorites. Brilliant writing and a fantastic actor to bring it to life.
Show!Ashford from the perspective of someone who read the book: "Tragic: the worst person you know just made a great point."
It's so weird, I'm currently reading the third book, and Ashford is such a two-dimensional, unlikeable villain, totally different from the show.
@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Ashford is one of the best book-to-show improvements I've seen in any adaption. They took a cartoonishly inept villain and made him into one of the most beloved characters on the show.
RIP Ashford. Such a fantastic character. Always saw the bigger picture.
Loved that he saw the real cost of Marco's violent path despite his own legendary piracy; too bad Miller never told him to see the doors and corners.
@@delprie 😫
Ehh they both had ideas that each other could somewhat see a small outcome of it. In the end Marcos methods cause everyone to start to take the belters serious, real respect. Ashford could only see the death toll but not the end end picture. If you guyshaven’t watched season 5 yet. With Ashford and drummers method they still would be struggling with gaining respect and the fact that earth n somewhat Mars still wasn’t taking the belters serious. All they saw were hobos in a make believe barge playing navy.
@@Audi2Gunz I've seen season 5 but please don't post spoilers like that; do you seriously believe attempted or successful genocide earns respect? And, without S5 spoilers, there's a difference between taking a threat seriously and taking a group of people seriously. Wouldn't Earth want revenge and apply it to any Belters not just Marco's faction? Wouldn't the efforts of any Earther wishing to secure peace and make amends for years of exploitation now face more severe obstacles within their own systems of power? The Belters would still be viewed as hobos in a make believe barge playing navy (lol, spot on Cyborg) but now they are dangerous war criminals.
@@delprie I supoose more recognition then respect. He was only a notorious pirate freedom fighter before that. And if earthers want revenge and confront the first belters they see then those belters will have a choice to make about what kind of belter they wanna be. A peace belter(forgive and forget) or a hateful belter and rally to Marcos side. But after all those Mars side dealings I’m sure they will no longer be poor hobos on a derelict ship, nooo, They will be free men and freeeedooom!! Yeah idk pirates was playing wen I did this comment. But with out spoilers I can’t really say much more. My new watcher already figured out the plot and I didn’t start season 5 for em yet. I dread season 5, only the son and mother part, that damn kid is such a cry baby. Oooh I want a loving mommy but I can’t see that my dad is a freaking psycho like my moms been telling me.
“Drummer is going to be pissed.” Oh, you have no idea how true those words are.
People like you are the reason they don’t look at our comments anymore
I just want to remind you guys.. Way back when in Season 1, Episode 4 - CQB, this piece of dialog happened.
"Avasarala's Grandson #1 : [sky peering on the rooftop] They're nothing to be scared of, you know. They're just little rocks that burn up in the sky.
Chrisjen Avasarala : They're not always so little.
Avasarala's Grandson #1 : You mean like the one that killed the dinosaurs?
Chrisjen Avasarala : Uh-huh.
Avasarala's Grandson #1 : Okay, that rock was big. But that hardly ever happens. Like winning the lottery.
Chrisjen Avasarala : I worry about people who throw rocks."
Just another little detail I appreciate about this show. Everything is connected.
And, also in season 1, Avasarala questioned a belter who was carrying stealth tech, which most people assumed was to do with the stealth ships, but he was really working for Marco
Rewatching multiple times reveals just how many clues there are in the first series, practically every scene is connected to the bigger picture in one way or another. Extremely clever writing.
@@0hMax Also when uncle Mateo and Diogo get harrashed by the Martian patrol , when they acuse them of destroying the Donnager Mateo says "and how would we done that? throwing rocks at it?" .
Now skip to the battle of the ring when a Donnager class gets nearly destroyed by rocks thrown at her from something/somewhere that 4 episodes later is identified in a display Marco is looking as "MATEO"
FF: Gorman accidentally made actual contact in that punch. Amos' lip really WAS split and bloody. Like Viggo Mortensen breaking his toe, Wes just rolled it into the performance.
That "Thank you" migjt have been Wes to Gorman rather than Amos to Murty.
What impressed me is that there are hints at Marco's plot in very first season, which I only realized somewhere at this point. That belter Avasarala was interrogating regarding stealth compounds. It was an operative of Inaros.
She also discussed her fear of people who throw rocks, when lying on the roof with her grandson.
Holy cow! I always thought that that the belter torture stuff was basically a dropped storyline or something, since it didn't seem to go anywhere in the first seasons.
The stealth compounds were about the protogen ships, but the comment about throwing rocks were definitely about the next season.
yes, that was the protogen ships, the stealth paint inaros used was being bought directly from mars from corrupt officials. the same way he gets a bunch of high tech ships later.
Yes the Protomolecule was a worthy distraction, but this show lays deep seeds and never forgets.
Marco Inaros.... There are only a handful of villans that have gotten under my skin so much; everytime he's on screen I want to do physical harm to him. That's a credit to the actor's good portrayal.
Buckle up guys, you're in for a ride with season 5😊
Keon Alexander is absolutely amazing, he is so good as Marco. Jasai as Filip is also amazing, he looks just like a kid Keon and Dominique would have.
@@BlackHawkBallistic Yea, he does look like their son in real life.
He’s so handsome that he disarms me a bit which I guess is what happened to Naomi 😅
This show does such a great job with character growth. Like many, I disliked Ashford at first, but then I grew to love him and cried when he died. The actor did a great job.
It's amazing how much Jasai Chase Owens (actor playing Filip) looks like Dominique Tipper (Naomi)
That's what happens when you give the casting director a time machine to set up Dominique Tipper and Keon Alexander years ago.
It’s so insane to me how great this show is, you really can’t ask for anything more from a series. Should have such a bigger following.
The show is absolutely amazing, the books are even better. I can't believe that there are nine books that started from a couple friends playing a DnD style game.
Oh yeah Calvin I agree. The Expanse and Black Sails are at the absolute top for me as well.
They say TV and Movie adaptations aren't great but here we see how Ashford was brought up from a petty antagonist in the books to a great character we can feel sad about seeing go.
Tilly Go my friend.
Supposedly, David Stratharin had so much fun playing Ashford he asked if they could use him after season 3. So glad they brought him back. I also forgot that he played the guy who put together the Womens Baseball League in "A League of Thier Own". But I still remembered him from Alphas and Bourne Supremecy or Ultimatium... I get those mixed up.
@@artboymoy Ultimatum. And yeah, Alpha and The Bourne Ultimatum is what I primarily know him from, too
You remarked on the regeneration gel for Amos's hand. The gel was mentioned in S01EP01 for the ice miner who lost his arm.
And so two legends depart the show. Farewell our beratnas, Miller and Ashford.
CANT believe were already at end of S4. Long live Klaes Ashford. Still pissed he’s gone. Amazing character and so well acted with an absolute badass ending few scenes. Avarasala’s message to Gao was the epitome of class. Followed by classic Avarasala with Bobbie’s message.
CANT wait for you to watch s5! Best season of Drummer acting (and Amos and Naomi!) yet.
This is the most rewatchable TV show I've ever seen. You will notice so much that supports the detailed world-building, writing nuances that aren't strictly necessary but are sublime in illustrating just how well-planned The Expanse is.
I'm curious which group, Belter, Earther or Martian you all identify with?
15:24 I think Klaes totally would have just shot Marco and knew doing so would be less dangerous than letting him live; I don’t think he could kill a father in front of his child
Avoiding spoilers, he was hoping to glean information on Marco's plan even at the cost of his own life. Killing Marco won't stop any of his plans that are in motion.
@@vorpalrobot there’s that too, but I think Klaes correctly read the shadow plays to know that killing Marco would derail all his plans… surrendering to Marco was an emotional decision to me, not a strategic one; that said, the contingency of recording Inaros monologuing was clearly a strategic backup Klaes opted for in account of his emotional inability to put Marco down
Season 5 gets crazy…I can’t wait to see your reactions
Can wait to see your guys reaction to Season 5... probably the best season yet.
S5 is one of my favorites!! Very excited for you guys!!
This was a crown jewel episode. So many beginnings and endings. Season five is insane.
11:20 The horrible realization of the existential threat to Holy Terra... chills.
Remember how suspicious of Ashford we were when he was first introduced. RIP to the ghost knife himself
You guys are gonna catch up just in time for season 6
Hope season 6 doesn't come for at least 10 weeks
this was the biggest and saddest moment of my time watching the expance. RIP Klaes Ashford.
If you think back to Season One Avarsarela told her grandson that her biggest fear was people throwing rocks.
RIP That bad ass man. Ashford was such a great character.
It's Sunday. It's Blindwave. It's The Expanse. Let's Gooooooooooooo!
hell yeah!
@12:21 "Doors and corners, kid. That's where they getcha."
-Miller
Season 5 is about to start which means its almost time for episode 4
On season 5 now just about I think they're doing more they better. Man when you guys do something I like leaves me a hundred percent entertained you guys are great! You deserve your own show Legit show Long Live blind wave!
Finally, you guys are onto season 5!
Great reaction guys! To the best damn space pirate that fought to the end for the bigger picture! Die in darkness beratna!! We'll never see his kind again!
The face/thin man you speak of at 26:30 has nothing to do with what Elvie saw or the beings that killed the Builders. That was Miller’s Protomolecule-infested corpse, still sitting on Venus. That showed up in the opening of episode 9, as real Miller was ‘reaching out’ to take control of the Protomolecule projection into Holden’s mind.
I know you guys don’t really ever read these comments, but maybe someday you’ll read it, and fix this misunderstanding. The beings that killed the builders, as evidenced by Elvie’s fall through the ‘eye of an angry god’ artifact, appear eel-like.
Ashford in the book was a 2 dimensional mustache twirling villain. The show made him one of the greatest characters in the Expanse.
the name of the blonde henchman is Leelee
She's pretty cute. I ike her style.
Remember when the previous secretary(President) whatever his name was asked Christian why she wasn't doing his job. She replied " I like to get shit done. And I prefer to keep my head attached to my body." He responded with "Your father was smart. You're smarter."
Avasarala did an unintentional prediction in S1 when she was with her grandson, she made a comment about being afraid of rocks or something along those lines
I doubt it was unintentional. Using iron asteroids as weapons was a very obvious option.
@@Yesquire0 if you say so my friend
remember havelock, millers partner back on ceres and how he kinda disappeared in way that suggested he might come back? this was the season he would have. in the books he's chief of secrurity on the edward israel. his point of view is one of four we get in that book, he's a big part. another character that returned ion that book was basia. we briefly saw him in s2 as a colleque of of prax. in s4 he kinda was replaced by lucia who is his wife in the books. their son was katoa, who did not survive ganymede to later be turned into that caliban-hybrid, but was the kid they found dead in the furnace (after the "pizza-party" as you dubbed it). this is important, because it gives basia motivation to a) move to ilus for a fresh start and b) agree to blow up the landing platform in the first place. i get why they cut out havelock. they probably just couldnt squeeze that in aswell, but i really don't get why they changed basias parts to be played out by lucia
I think that the next season is pretty strong but it's changed a little too much from the books. We'll see I'm excited to see what everyone thinks of season 5
It kind of had to. Sadly.
Man, watching the discourse about where the show is going and being caught up on the series is killing me right now.
All I can say to those that haven't is hold on to your butts.
Finally 😌 we’re so close to season five. Y’all are not ready..
We see the impact of the opening of that vast new frontier, on the societies of the Solar System.
A whole lot of people who benefited from a status quo will see that reality start to disintegrate around them.
They won't react well.
I love your reactions 💞
and this is how u walk the plank with style
Expanse!
5:30 see, justice is all relative. If you like someone, you can hide them from it, if not...
The shit is about to hit the fan!
The protomolecule builders are dead. The species that killed them are still alive, and very dangerous.
Drummer being pissed. You have NO IDEA!!!! However, the show will tell you all about that.
Great Amos episodes coming up. Great Naomi episodes as well.
14:16 Defend Holy Terra, fountainhead of Mankind!
Lawful good Holden - remember when he was going to kill Cortazar? He's backed off that but yes, he has changed.
I will say this over and over, Keon Alexander would make a fantastic Khan in Star Trek!!
Even in the book, I always believe he should have kept the piece of proto. He never know when he would need it. I never like this part of Avasarala 'loosing an election'. One of the most important thing about her is that she was never a politicians even when she has a firm grasp of it. She is a high ranking civil servant, which has very different sets of skills and usually more formable then a politician. This alteration from the book made her look like she is bad at it. She was very good at it, she just never liked being in the spotlight.
I loved how Avasarala described the true nature of just about every political debate: all sides are merely engaging in goofy speculation about what the future may bring and how one policy or the other might influence events. You can fight to get your policy enacted, but there is no reason to hate the people on the other side. If you lose, you can still think you are right, and you can still hope that the policy to be implemented by the winner will not be a disaster.
Avasarala never had a chance in an election where the primary issue was keeping the blockade on the ring hub in place or opening the hub for people to emigrate to new systems and have a chance at a real life off of Basic. We don't know at this point in the ongoing story if Avasarala was right to insist on keeping the blockade in place until all the new systems could be fully studied as to any remaining blue goo threat, or, for that matter, and other weird shit still hanging around after a couple of billion years, but I think we will find out.
pretty sure the 'face' was just the hybrid again
Btw, there will be more than 6 seasons. The current "run" is just ending after season 6. Just imagine GoT ending with season 8, and then there's House of the Dragons after that. I'm not saying more.
Next season is amazing...but unlike any of the previous. I'm excited to see how the guys react to it. At first, I was bummed that the crew was scattered...but the stories were so compelling that I came around pretty quick.
At episode per week they should finish S5 by early december.. wich coincidentally is nearly when S6 should begin
Ashford and Miller were my favourite characters. Both gone in the last 2 episodes 😢
Season 4 was definitely the worst season finale. A lot of plot holes and stuff that just doesn't make sense. The worst is Ashford seemingly ridiculous plan of bringing in 2 guys with him to board a ship. Then, he has Marco at gun point and decides instead of shooting him and dying that he will just let then throw me out the airlock. I very unfortunate ending to a great character.
I don't think Holden killed Lucia.. he was saying how he would report it as if she got blown into space, despite Naomi's best efforts to save her. As in he would help to fake her death
And it could have been that the writers and the actor recognized that this new Arjun didn't sit well with the fans.
You're right, and I've had to mull over why this is the case. The first hubby was small in stature, with a small and kindly voice. He was very believable as a husband who was willing to play second fiddle to his brilliant and ruthless wife. The second guy presented himself as a Alpha male who would never have lasted very long as the subservient husband, and his character simply doesn't right true.
Ashford the realest.
I despise the fact that after Holden´s speech about civilization and it´s importance even on a frontier he let the terrorist go. Not meaning to do something or being sorry about it afterwards does not excuse what you do, you have to face consequences just like everyone else. Especially since she hid the truth afterwards.
Edit: First time we ever see Chrisjen she is interrogating OPA terrorist about stolen stealth tech. She thought he was working for Belters, latter for Mao. But he was working for Inaros. It was set up in early Season 1. It is now Season 4. I love this show.
Oh Yeah here we go. Season 5 is as good as Seasons 2 and 3
Actually I also was thinking all this time....if Ashford just shot him.....happy ending)
Next season is another doozy......
Did you completely overlook that with Holden reporting Lucia as having died in space, nobody is going to come looking for her on Illus?
Why is it so hard for people to accept that Chrisjen was wrong about almost everything this season. She deserved to lose and then some.
Yup
Because her position is "This protomolecule stuff is dangerous and we need to properly investigate it before we send millions of hornet-nest-kicking people through the Ring" and the New Terra plotline is all about the swarms of of hornets in these nests humanity is about to kick.
@@Reedstilt LOL the only ones who are not already in a death spiral are the super elite on Earth. Everybody else is just looking for an opportunity to have a chance to survive, or die, on there own terms.
spoiler about the rocks:
there is 10 of them.. one fractures arround the sun and never reaches target.. 3 hit.. 3 miss and 3 are intercepted by earth defenses
Just finished my re-watch on season 4, once again. FUCKEN ASHFORD!! 😫 the dreaded season 5. I might call it and switch over to BSG re-watch. The only good part about season 5 is the last episode. But the rest of the books MMMMAAAN. Not sure how a short season 6 could do it justice. Episodes better be 3 hrs long, shooooot!
Watch Squid Game
Squid Game !!! Peace out
They will release dub squid game from Tuesday.
U should watch squid gane
They will release dub squid game from Tuesday.
The expanse is good and all but don't compare it to black sails
Um opinions. So if someone compare it, there is nothing wrong with that