Giving up the ghost comes from german. I never thought this expression could be translated word by word. Better would be giving up the spirit (ghost and spirit is the same word in german)
neat! nice to know you use programming in KSP too! i made a rocket that uses a preset program that goes to my moho base, lands on my pre-built pad, drops its payload on the crawler next to the pad, and then returns to kerbin, re-enters, and lands at the KSC. i have used it to establish a completely self sustainable, research capable, and giant, in a crater with an ore concentration of 12.7%
I kinda wish that Kerbal Space Program came with in game AI parts, where you could tell me easily with numbers / sliders to do stuff like this. Like make a rover go from point A to point B on the moon. Make platforms / Rings fly like in the video. AI parts like this would suit the game imo.
Mech Jeb has most of that, but I don't like Mech Jeb much because it's too twitchy and behaves very strangely at times. A problem with stock AI is that the vanilla physics range doesn't really let other objects fly at a great distance from the selected vessel. Some mods get around this, but it's impossible for them to load terrain under distant vessels so anything too far away couldn't land or drive without falling through the world. Floating point errors also become a problem, but those aren't nearly as bad as the lack of solid ground. I would love a pitch-independent SAS though, for rovers and such.
There should be a really easily destroyed monoprop tank or whatever in the middle and if you destroy it, the total monopropellant will drop to zero, then the while loop can test if monoprop is zero, and if it is, shut down the engine, so once you fly through the hoop, it falls out of the sky.
Scott! That was awesome! I'm still learning how to use Java to control my rockets with kRPC and it's really cool, I'm doing a suicide burn script, with little success.. xD That little drone would be great to use with the Camera Tools Mod! You could use it to make a dogfight scene! ^^
Indeed, that was awesome ^^ But I was talking about the "dogfight chase" mode from Camera Tools, I believe you could make a drone like a DJI Spark, to follow your on your adventures, just for some epic footage ^^ KRPC is really cool to mess with, I had a livestream today trying to make a rocket hover like yours xD
I suppose I shouldn't mention the competition, but if you're looking for suicide burn script work, check out Marcus House channel - he used kos script to suicide burn a lifter rocket onto the VAB roof - my gast has never been so flabbered! Er, except for that time Scott dunked a hoop from orbit, of course!
It's actually from several places in Bible, so this phrase is (was) universal among most languages Bible was translated to. The strange thing is that regardless of implied anthropism applied to words ghost, Geist and дух, phrase is used for inanimate objects too at least in English and Russian
Would you be able to catch a jellyfish-shaped satellite with a Spongebob-shaped probe? Be sure to have the pants separate during the intercept! You could even use the Mk-3 cargo ramp as a net!
In Czech there is exactly the same phrase, certainly coming from German. However it is not used anymore in this meaning to my knowledge. It is used however as a polite way of saying "to fart" (actually I remember my great-grandmother using it and she was born before WW1).
In Germany we have this expression "den Geist aufgeben" oder "Something hat den Geust aufgegeben". Which litterally translates it into "givin up the ghost". more correct would be "loosing the spirit" i gues. the meaning if this saying is, something gave up. lost structural integrity or just failed working, like a machine motor or sumthin.
Hey, are you going to continue the 'things KSP doesn't teach you' series? I love those videos. If you're short on ideas, how about rendezvous physics? Given the difficulty the Gemini missions had initially with the maneuver, and how relatively easy it is in KSP, I would think that might be a good place to start!
most coments are about the giving up the gost thing wich is probably dutch i use it when a device breakdown slowly and now its completely dead or a puff of smoke
whatever happened to that mod that projected the hud out in front of the vehicle in third person with the velocity vector? that was one of my favorite mods
we now I just want to see you build a ship that will get to the mun being controlled only by script. Like what they would do with an actual unmanned space mission!
Did you program some kind of hack in the kRPC script to magically re-fuel the rings every so often? Because I could see your aircraft nog having unlimited fuel while the rings have.
Wow!! As I see at about 15:00 it seems is possible made this program emulate something like a figther plane for some dog fight or isn't?? Thanks for still cool vids and for your channel! You are the man of KSP!! :) :D
If you use the BD Armory mod it comes with a dogfighting autopilot, so you can load up weapons, spawn a few planes and watch them fight each other. Here's a compilation: ua-cam.com/video/g5GEQH5F7mo/v-deo.html
Oh, it seems very interesting, maybe I will try someday!! Unfortunately I don't play KSP at some mouths mainly because I can't play just for few hours and I don't have more such time, and because I begin to play Escape from Tarkov! A equaly hardcore game but tottaly diferent becase is a FPS game heh! Thank you for your response, I am a big fan of you since I begin to play, like 4 years ago!! I'm very glad could have this chat with you from another side of the world! :) Hugs for you here from Brazil! ;) :D
"giving up the ghost" is a literal translation of a dutch saying. "De geest geven", or "hij heeft de geest gegeven". Well I just read it could also be a german expression as well. But hey, neighbours..
No, it is not. "is a literal translation of" implies that it was taken from the source language and then translated. But coincidence does not imply causality. So if you didn't mean to express that, then you shouldn't have worded it like that.
12:45 To "give up the ghost" is Biblical, from the crucifixion in the King James version (Luke 23:46 - And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.) - more recent translations usually say something like "breathed his last" (breathing -> inspire/expire -> spirit -> ghost), which while more understandable is rather less likely to become a phrase for the ages.
Google says "giving up the ghost" is a phrase capable of being traced back as far as the 1600s printing of the King James Bible. And if I had to guess its a bit older than that. Maybe 15-1400s somewhere in what would eventually be part of the holy Roman empire or possibly middle ages northern Europe. Thats the best I can deduce.
'Ello, Scott! Don't suppose you'll consider returning to Stellaris at some point? Pardon if others have been asking the same, but I'm really enjoying going through your 47 videos long playlist, and I'm about halfway! But I realize the last episode is long before a lot of the significant updates to the game (including some quite recent ones), so it would be fun to see you try your hand at those someday :D
"Giving up the ghost" is a literal translation of the german expression "den Geist aufgeben"
You do know that English is a germanic language right?
Scott Manley ye ofcourse
but "ghost" in this case is a misstranslation of "geist", "spirit" would be the better translation
ColeNOXyd2nd yea
what i want to say with it is that german as the original language makes sense, more than beeing just another language that uses it
Giving up the ghost comes from german. I never thought this expression could be translated word by word. Better would be giving up the spirit (ghost and spirit is the same word in german)
It's been in English since Old English, so probably a parallel development instead of a borrowing from German en.wiktionary.org/wiki/give_up_the_ghost
But in German we still tend to use it once in a while...
German and Dutch. There's 2 continental West German languages.
expression also translates to dutch, and as far as i know its only commonly used by senior dutch people.
Literally same expression exist in Russian "испустить дух", meaning both "ghost", "spirit" and "soul" too. So I guess it's universal
but you didnt try scripting the plane and then flying the hoops around it?
Because that wouldn't be fun.
Scott Manley, I beg to differ.
I feel you need to build the kerbal version of the buzzer game and see how far you can fly a hoop along it now to prove me wrong
neat! nice to know you use programming in KSP too! i made a rocket that uses a preset program that goes to my moho base, lands on my pre-built pad, drops its payload on the crawler next to the pad, and then returns to kerbin, re-enters, and lands at the KSC. i have used it to establish a completely self sustainable, research capable, and giant, in a crater with an ore concentration of 12.7%
I kinda wish that Kerbal Space Program came with in game AI parts, where you could tell me easily with numbers / sliders to do stuff like this. Like make a rover go from point A to point B on the moon. Make platforms / Rings fly like in the video. AI parts like this would suit the game imo.
Mech Jeb has most of that, but I don't like Mech Jeb much because it's too twitchy and behaves very strangely at times. A problem with stock AI is that the vanilla physics range doesn't really let other objects fly at a great distance from the selected vessel. Some mods get around this, but it's impossible for them to load terrain under distant vessels so anything too far away couldn't land or drive without falling through the world. Floating point errors also become a problem, but those aren't nearly as bad as the lack of solid ground. I would love a pitch-independent SAS though, for rovers and such.
«I either fly or I die»
minutes later: «I'm Scott Manley, Fly safe!»
Check yo gravity!
I like how it's eather full thrust or nothing for the drones :D Great video!
Giving up the ghost is from German. In German it is: "Den Geist aufgeben"
"Giving up the ghost" sounds like a literal translation of "De geest geven" which is Dutch.
Plus "den Geist aufgeben" from German. :3
There should be a really easily destroyed monoprop tank or whatever in the middle and if you destroy it, the total monopropellant will drop to zero, then the while loop can test if monoprop is zero, and if it is, shut down the engine, so once you fly through the hoop, it falls out of the sky.
its oddly unsettling how they float around, mindlessly but intelligent at the same time.
@Scott Manley - "Giving the ghost from" comes from the dutch saying: "De geest geven" and it's a literal translation.
For the JellyFish, wouldn't having a triangle of rockets splayed outwards with responsive reaction wheels help?
You should couple two same-sized rocket parts together in mid-air using this script.
If it's any consolation, your conversation while concentrating had me cracking up, so congratulations.
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Hi Scott can you do a video on writing scripts for KSP Please?
yesssssss
Currently I need a script to fix my version that stops it crashing on load :(
Yeah that would definitely be awesome!
Scott! That was awesome! I'm still learning how to use Java to control my rockets with kRPC and it's really cool, I'm doing a suicide burn script, with little success.. xD
That little drone would be great to use with the Camera Tools Mod! You could use it to make a dogfight scene! ^^
que dahora te encontrar aqui..ahahha
Haha o pessoal sempre assiste uns vídeos do Scott ^^ Eu também não poderia deixar de assistir ^^
You can run dogfights a lot easier using BDArmoryua-cam.com/video/g5GEQH5F7mo/v-deo.html
Indeed, that was awesome ^^ But I was talking about the "dogfight chase" mode from Camera Tools, I believe you could make a drone like a DJI Spark, to follow your on your adventures, just for some epic footage ^^
KRPC is really cool to mess with, I had a livestream today trying to make a rocket hover like yours xD
I suppose I shouldn't mention the competition, but if you're looking for suicide burn script work, check out Marcus House channel - he used kos script to suicide burn a lifter rocket onto the VAB roof - my gast has never been so flabbered! Er, except for that time Scott dunked a hoop from orbit, of course!
the rogue agent from the interstellar series is back and he overtook a drone that went rogue right after, destroy it before the NaNite Virus returns!
The flying through rings bit is a real thing. Check out swept wing and drone FPV racing. Hilarious sport for tech savy people.
try programming an proportional regulator instead of an 2 point one. maybe this will increase your stability of the rings
"giving up the ghost" could be a translation of "den Geist aufgeben", a german figure of speech
Or Dutch "De geest gegeven" meaning broke down or died
It's actually from several places in Bible, so this phrase is (was) universal among most languages Bible was translated to. The strange thing is that regardless of implied anthropism applied to words ghost, Geist and дух, phrase is used for inanimate objects too at least in English and Russian
Those flying rings are indestructible
You should try landing a rocket from orbit on one of those floating platforms.
11:45 I wonder where he got that idea from...
What a coincidence. Last weekend I started fiddling with kRPC in LinqPad and got the GDLV3 to KEO. kRPC really rocks!
2:08 best quote of 2018 torreto would be proud
From 'Tony Probe' to 'Badass Probe'- my how times have changed.
Flying through rings brings back bad memories. Thanks Titus.
You deserve a like just for the "That's how I roll" joke @5:32 , however the video ends :D
Some may call you the master of the rings but i however will now call you the lord of the rings
Good beer choice. I have been to KRBC many times.
Irn Bru in The States? A bunch of sellers on Amazon have it, and with Prime shipping, too. Good if there are no ex pat shops in your local area.
Would you be able to catch a jellyfish-shaped satellite with a Spongebob-shaped probe? Be sure to have the pants separate during the intercept! You could even use the Mk-3 cargo ramp as a net!
So that's why people have trouble standing when they're drunk. It's all that extra gravity they drank.
In Czech there is exactly the same phrase, certainly coming from German. However it is not used anymore in this meaning to my knowledge. It is used however as a polite way of saying "to fart" (actually I remember my great-grandmother using it and she was born before WW1).
Now you just need to make them point their nose in the direction of a preset position to get a fully working autopilot.
Great video. And yes more uplink!
The horse raced past the barn fell.
In Germany we have this expression "den Geist aufgeben" oder "Something hat den Geust aufgegeben". Which litterally translates it into "givin up the ghost". more correct would be "loosing the spirit" i gues. the meaning if this saying is, something gave up. lost structural integrity or just failed working, like a machine motor or sumthin.
the wheel in the sky keeps on turnin...
"Giving up the ghost"?
That sounds like it could be taken from the Polish "Oddawać ducha" which indeed means "to die".
Hey, are you going to continue the 'things KSP doesn't teach you' series? I love those videos. If you're short on ideas, how about rendezvous physics? Given the difficulty the Gemini missions had initially with the maneuver, and how relatively easy it is in KSP, I would think that might be a good place to start!
Those rings have no PID at all. Might help to have a proper PID loop with an output augmented by the expected throttle to maintain altitude.
Although, I have to admit that bang-bang control makes it more fun.
I believe the flickering and jittering bug is caused by Physics Range Extender.
Please play more of the uplinkOS mod. I've been playing it too and I want to see you get to the endgame stuff.
Space X should use the floating platform for landing their rockets! (Giving up the ghost comes from old KJV)
Worst glitch ever is approaching something while supersonic and having aerodynamic effects happen on said object but in reverse
"It will probably involve crashing into things" :D
this is a little bit awesome. Now, a challenge: launch a SpaceX and LAND THE FIRST STAGE ON AN AIRBORNE PLATFORM!
PLEASE do a video over getting to minmus/the Mun with only twin boars (landing with them too!
fully automated mun landing incoming
incredable flying
3:28 when you remember you have exam in two days, you don't know shit, and you're watching UA-cam.
07:11 "Well, okay that killed him"
You should do this with that quadcopter you built!
annnddddd Scott Manleys created the new Pilot Wings
Raimar Lunardi ultra wings is the new pilot wings
Nice to know!!! I wish I had VR setup though...
most coments are about the giving up the gost thing wich is probably dutch i use it when a device breakdown slowly and now its completely dead or a puff of smoke
Put the engines on the top so the rings dangle down, and make them bigger!
the lack of PID in the control of the floaty rings disturbs me :V
This is neat. I feel though that the audio is a bit too soon for the video.
put lights on the rings (red+green) so you can see easier the orientation :)
whatever happened to that mod that projected the hud out in front of the vehicle in third person with the velocity vector? that was one of my favorite mods
Mr Manley, if you could do a LAN tutorial for uplink that would be rad. I could never figure out what the heck to do with it.
8:35 elon musk..... Here an idea for reusable stages
Low gravity beer for High gravity people? What, is that was Alara Kitan drinks then?
Ramén, Flying Spaghetti Monster!
PID: the solution to most issues lol. I use it all the time for VEX robotics
Can you make a self landing rocket like in SpaceX ?
Martin Luther was the first who wrote about "giving up the ghost" in his translations of the bible.
Normal hover rings seem too easy for you. I think you now need pirouetting hover rings!
Just realized that KSP is made in Mexico... Hell yeah.... I am impressed....More impressive things please.. :)
It would be cool if you used a PID controller to let the rings stay in position.
Come on, Scott. You were using Python. You could have just imported antigravity.
you sir should fly drones aka quads. it's a blast.
5:33 that's also how you pitch.
Is it bad that I get overly excited whenever Scott Manley posts a new video?
we now I just want to see you build a ship that will get to the mun being controlled only by script. Like what they would do with an actual unmanned space mission!
giving up the ghost comes from the netherlands
6:18 wow, that's... Wow!
3:32 DED
Now put the hoop on the airplane and barnswallow the drones. :D
Did you program some kind of hack in the kRPC script to magically re-fuel the rings every so often? Because I could see your aircraft nog having unlimited fuel while the rings have.
Wow!! As I see at about 15:00 it seems is possible made this program emulate something like a figther plane for some dog fight or isn't?? Thanks for still cool vids and for your channel! You are the man of KSP!! :) :D
If you use the BD Armory mod it comes with a dogfighting autopilot, so you can load up weapons, spawn a few planes and watch them fight each other.
Here's a compilation:
ua-cam.com/video/g5GEQH5F7mo/v-deo.html
Oh, it seems very interesting, maybe I will try someday!! Unfortunately I don't play KSP at some mouths mainly because I can't play just for few hours and I don't have more such time, and because I begin to play Escape from Tarkov! A equaly hardcore game but tottaly diferent becase is a FPS game heh! Thank you for your response, I am a big fan of you since I begin to play, like 4 years ago!! I'm very glad could have this chat with you from another side of the world! :) Hugs for you here from Brazil! ;) :D
According to the wiktionary page of the German equivalent, giving up the ghost is from the Bible, Lamentations 2,12 and Acts 5,5.
Finally somebody who bothers to dig deeper, rather than just parrot uneducated bullshit.
Remind me to not ever be your passenger....
10:10
Crew report while landed at Kerbin's lower atmosphere
Flying through rings? Is this Superman 64?
"giving up the ghost" is a literal translation of a dutch saying. "De geest geven", or "hij heeft de geest gegeven". Well I just read it could also be a german expression as well. But hey, neighbours..
Yes. And because you use it in your language TODAY automatically implies that it also ORIGINATED in your language, right?
Anvilshock No, did I say that?
"is a literal translation of a dutch saying"
Anvilshock Because it is. Where it origated I have no idea and I never knew the same saying was used in Germany which I find quite fascinating.
No, it is not. "is a literal translation of" implies that it was taken from the source language and then translated. But coincidence does not imply causality. So if you didn't mean to express that, then you shouldn't have worded it like that.
"Giving up the ghost" ist from german, afaik. "Den Geist aufgeben" -> cease functioning.
"afaik" - Which isn't much, apparently.
Scott you crashed that first one on purpose..come on man!!
And the second one...
and the third one was a horrible approach
12:45 To "give up the ghost" is Biblical, from the crucifixion in the King James version (Luke 23:46 - And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.) - more recent translations usually say something like "breathed his last" (breathing -> inspire/expire -> spirit -> ghost), which while more understandable is rather less likely to become a phrase for the ages.
If it throws an exception can you not capture it with a try/except method and deal with it there
How about a "Completely Automated Reusable Space Program"?
Hey scott did you know some thing about the Thargoid scouts before anyone els 11.30 :o
Google says "giving up the ghost" is a phrase capable of being traced back as far as the 1600s printing of the King James Bible. And if I had to guess its a bit older than that. Maybe 15-1400s somewhere in what would eventually be part of the holy Roman empire or possibly middle ages northern Europe. Thats the best I can deduce.
Honestly, looking at how UA-cam censors things nowadays, I'm pretty surprised it lets you show off beer like that.
'Ello, Scott! Don't suppose you'll consider returning to Stellaris at some point? Pardon if others have been asking the same, but I'm really enjoying going through your 47 videos long playlist, and I'm about halfway! But I realize the last episode is long before a lot of the significant updates to the game (including some quite recent ones), so it would be fun to see you try your hand at those someday :D
Please, do Kerbal Quidditch at some point!
Hey Scott entertaining video, I want to get your opinion on the Ironbru discontinuation that's gonna happen.
You mean the change to the recipe to reduce the sugar content? No idea if I'll ever get to try that in the US.