"slightly different" isn't the whole game slightly different from a part that came before the whole way? Some parts are slow like the intro, others is creepy like the part leading up to mantis, others is action like going down the comms tower, others is puzzle like the cards keys temps.
No you didn't, you could go back to here just by using the 2nd disc, you didn't need to swap back to the 1st disc, they simply included this area on both discs.
You can actually go back to all disc 1 areas without swapping. Area, item and enemy data are on both discs for whatever reason. I remember as a kid I wanted to test how far you'll get without swapping back to disc 1 an I got back to the heliport.
And you can thaw them quickly in the blast furnace area (like the pal key). If you spend too long during the vulcan raven 2nd fight i believe they can freeze there as well
i guess this room full of stinger is somewhat useful if you're playing on a difficulty with scarse ammo ? this gives you some spare stinger ammo for the rex boss fight.
Problem is the higher your difficulty the lower your item reserves, for instance you can only carry a few rationa. I think on extreme you can have 15 missiles max
Not useless, just disappointing. Earlier in the game doing some quick backtracking can earn you the night vision goggles before you leave the tank hanger. But here, being diligent and remembering that level 7 door only nets you ammo. It's useful, particularly if you're playing on hard, but it really should have rewarded the player with something more.
Not at all, I thought it was well thought, you're gonna need those stinger missiles to defeat metal gear, maybe someone wasn't well stacked up before the fight.
But you get the Level 7 card from Raven, and his arena respawns Stinger ammo whenever you leave and re-enter. You can stock up much quicker just walking in and out of his room rather than backtracking all the way back here
It's the only level 7 room in the whole game, and the first time you see it you don't have the right card. So it teases you to come back, and all you get is ammo that is already plentiful at that stage. Come on, you telling me you weren't a little disappointed?
I wouldn't call a room full of stinger missiles useless especially when you're about to go up against Rex by the time you get the level 7 card in the first place.
Eh, if you deem a room useless because there is ammo or other usefull items in there that means nearly every room is pointless, keycard requirement or not.
It's like the game was already over by the end of disc 1, more of anything of the game is good to have though and can't really complain. Still an amazing game and dare I say it still the best game ever made (imo not everybody else's). My favourite chapter of MGS4 is revisiting Shadow Moses with MGS4's graphics and mechanics - Would have been so good to have the whole game of MGS1 remade like that. I feel MGS4's style suits MGS1 so well, not MGS2's/TTS flashy shiny clean graphics. MGS1 & MGS4 look more gritty and realistic. That time has gone and now we will see a new remake of MGS1 by today's standards, I just hope they go more with MGS1's direction and not TTS. Will probably be in the same vein as Delta so should be good.
I'm convinced Kojima put that room there just to troll the players who wanted to backtrack thinking something good or cool was in there.
Most or the 2nd DISC is a slightly different game with tons of backtracking for stretching time.
disc 1 has backtracking too
@@guiwonsik You don't say!
"slightly different" isn't the whole game slightly different from a part that came before the whole way? Some parts are slow like the intro, others is creepy like the part leading up to mantis, others is action like going down the comms tower, others is puzzle like the cards keys temps.
@@nobyra I felt like missing some of those things playing CD2… It’s quite “even” or “uniform” compare to CD1.
Thanks, was debating on going back but na im good 😂
Just go up when you're warmimg the key. You have to it's a door that you haven't opened, it might change 😮
Keep in mind also that on PS1 you had to swap discs to get back there.
Nah, you can go back without swapping discs. The map data is on both discs
No you didn't, you could go back to here just by using the 2nd disc, you didn't need to swap back to the 1st disc, they simply included this area on both discs.
You didnt... but it is frustrating all the same... I went there one time
yupp we have no need to swap disc to go back there, even to the first ocelot fight @@krisd5697
You can actually go back to all disc 1 areas without swapping. Area, item and enemy data are on both discs for whatever reason. I remember as a kid I wanted to test how far you'll get without swapping back to disc 1 an I got back to the heliport.
Never knew thst rations can freeze.
jesus christ im 32 years old and i found out just now 😂 this game can suprise you even after 20+ years
Yeah they freeze if you don’t equipped them for a long time in the cold
And you can thaw them quickly in the blast furnace area (like the pal key). If you spend too long during the vulcan raven 2nd fight i believe they can freeze there as well
i guess this room full of stinger is somewhat useful if you're playing on a difficulty with scarse ammo ? this gives you some spare stinger ammo for the rex boss fight.
not really... you get plently of stinger misssiles after raven even on extreme
Yeah the entire rex arena is full of it, because the fight would be impossible without it.
@@MetalMoshin The first half. You can hit Liquid directly with a sniper rifle in the second half.
@@BlindBosnian I'm aware.
Problem is the higher your difficulty the lower your item reserves, for instance you can only carry a few rationa. I think on extreme you can have 15 missiles max
Not useless, just disappointing. Earlier in the game doing some quick backtracking can earn you the night vision goggles before you leave the tank hanger. But here, being diligent and remembering that level 7 door only nets you ammo. It's useful, particularly if you're playing on hard, but it really should have rewarded the player with something more.
You can destroy those cameras with stinger missiles, just make sure there’s no conscious guards in the area or it’ll put you in Alert.
There are no guards in the snowfield area.
"Naught's had, all is spent, where our desire is got without content." - William Shakespeare
Kojima did us dirty on that one, which is surprising
Surprisingly in character for him maybe
Not at all, I thought it was well thought, you're gonna need those stinger missiles to defeat metal gear, maybe someone wasn't well stacked up before the fight.
I dont see its useless I mean you can stock up on stinger ammo and blow those cameras ( Fun Room )
But you get the Level 7 card from Raven, and his arena respawns Stinger ammo whenever you leave and re-enter. You can stock up much quicker just walking in and out of his room rather than backtracking all the way back here
@@mistermista2927there's was going to be more bosses including fights and more scenes
It's the only level 7 room in the whole game, and the first time you see it you don't have the right card. So it teases you to come back, and all you get is ammo that is already plentiful at that stage. Come on, you telling me you weren't a little disappointed?
What’s more useless is that level 7 all the way back where you first fight Ocelot
isn't that a level 6 you can access after the torture ?
Ive never seen anyone play like this, not even newbs
El buen Kojima y sus trolleos
KOJI-MAN
I wouldn't call a room full of stinger missiles useless especially when you're about to go up against Rex by the time you get the level 7 card in the first place.
Unless Extreme mode removes it, there's tons of stinger missiles around where you'd be already. No point in backtracking all the way here.
Jesus guy is awful at the game. Chaff at the start and 1 in the room. Why change to body armour instead of having the keycard.
There were claymore mines in some of those rooms. My best guess? He's putting the body armor on due to a bad past experience.
Could've put Easter Egg here.
Yep. Or an exclusive item.
Haha
Honestly if you’re running low on Stinger Missles (Which you need for REX) it’s not that useless in hindsight..
The point you are trying to make is pointless
I was about to go back there lol. Its been years since i played mgs1
Good i dont have to go back now after beating raven
Ive never needed to go to this room 😂
I wondered about this
Who uses armor anyway..
Its good to use in boss fights in order to save ration. But a good enough player won't need to use any of both. In that room I would use a chaff.g.
@@guilhermecampos8313what if you're low on chaff
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc use other method, simple as that
Where?
Eh, if you deem a room useless because there is ammo or other usefull items in there that means nearly every room is pointless, keycard requirement or not.
The second half of this game is so tedious and shit that it detracts from the first half
Story is good but that’s literally it
It's like the game was already over by the end of disc 1, more of anything of the game is good to have though and can't really complain. Still an amazing game and dare I say it still the best game ever made (imo not everybody else's). My favourite chapter of MGS4 is revisiting Shadow Moses with MGS4's graphics and mechanics - Would have been so good to have the whole game of MGS1 remade like that. I feel MGS4's style suits MGS1 so well, not MGS2's/TTS flashy shiny clean graphics. MGS1 & MGS4 look more gritty and realistic. That time has gone and now we will see a new remake of MGS1 by today's standards, I just hope they go more with MGS1's direction and not TTS. Will probably be in the same vein as Delta so should be good.